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Tom
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: startup menu
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In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I clean out
old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is long an old
and outdated. tia
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REE
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: startup menu [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Start by downloading Mike Lin's Startup.exe at :
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml . Then check each entry to see
what is safe to remove at :
http://www2.whidbey.net/djdenham/Uncheck.htm . I would just uncheck each
entry first before deleting any item .
"Tom" <invalid.DeleteThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I clean
out
> old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is long
an old
> and outdated. tia
>
>
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glee1
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: startup menu [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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As REE suggested, use a third party free startup manager that has ther option to
both disable and delete items....but always use disable first to be sure the item is
not needed. You must first re-enable all the disabled items in msconfig by
selecting Normal Startup and clicking OK, in order to have them all show up in the
startup manager, but you do not need to restart the computer after closing msconfig.
Just go right to the startup manager and disable what you need to, then reboot.

Either startup manager available on this page will work....use one or the other:
http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Tom" <invalid RemoveThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
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> In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I clean out
> old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is long an old
> and outdated. tia
>
>
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Tom
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: startup menu [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Why third party software? Is there no approach in windows? If not, how did a
vendor do this task?
"glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
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> As REE suggested, use a third party free startup manager that has ther
option to
> both disable and delete items....but always use disable first to be sure
the item is
> not needed. You must first re-enable all the disabled items in msconfig
by
> selecting Normal Startup and clicking OK, in order to have them all show
up in the
> startup manager, but you do not need to restart the computer after closing
msconfig.
> Just go right to the startup manager and disable what you need to, then
reboot.
>
> Either startup manager available on this page will work....use one or the
other:
> http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Tom" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23%23OKDw%23kGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I clean
out
> > old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is long an
old
> > and outdated. tia
> >
> >
>
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Ron Badour1
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Since: Apr 15, 2004
Posts: 1754



PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: startup menu [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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There are seven run keys in the registry that are used to start programs:

1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

3. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

4. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ RunServices

6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
RunServicesOnce

7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
RunOnce\Setup

If there is an item disabled in the Startup tab, MSconfig.exe, that was in
one of these keys, it will be in an identically named key except that there
will be a minus at the end, i.e., Run- I suppose any key could be
duplicated; however, I have only found keys #1, #2 and #5 duplicated in my
registry with a minus. If you want to get rid of a non-marked entry in
MSconfig, delete the key with the minus sign behind it.

When you disable an entry that is in the startup folder on the start menu, a
folder is created on the start menu called Disabled Startup Items. As
appropriate, delete the item from either the registry key or the Disabled
folder. If the item is the only thing in the registry key or Disabled
folder, you can delete the key or the folder also.

Items can start from the run= and load= lines in the win.ini file. If
disabled, they are placed in a norun= or noload= line. Go into the win.ini
file and change the appropriate line back to the way it was, i.e., change
norun=<application name> to run= and save the file.

If this doesn't do what you want, post back.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Tom" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:ulocPWIlGHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Why third party software? Is there no approach in windows? If not, how did
> a
> vendor do this task?
> "glee" <glee29.TakeThisOut@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23%23R9iiBlGHA.5072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> As REE suggested, use a third party free startup manager that has ther
> option to
>> both disable and delete items....but always use disable first to be sure
> the item is
>> not needed. You must first re-enable all the disabled items in msconfig
> by
>> selecting Normal Startup and clicking OK, in order to have them all show
> up in the
>> startup manager, but you do not need to restart the computer after
>> closing
> msconfig.
>> Just go right to the startup manager and disable what you need to, then
> reboot.
>>
>> Either startup manager available on this page will work....use one or the
> other:
>> http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Tom" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23%23OKDw%23kGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I clean
> out
>> > old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is long an
> old
>> > and outdated. tia
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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glee1
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Since: Dec 15, 2003
Posts: 3748



PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: startup menu [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ron has posted the details in his reply. The third-party app is a tiny utility, and
saves one the extra work and risk of manually deleting the entries from the Registry
using the Registry editor. The method is the same, but much easier, especially for
users unfamiliar with working in the Registry, where a mistake can render your
Windows useless.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Tom" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:ulocPWIlGHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Why third party software? Is there no approach in windows? If not, how did a
> vendor do this task?
> "glee" <glee29.TakeThisOut@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23%23R9iiBlGHA.5072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > As REE suggested, use a third party free startup manager that has ther
> option to
> > both disable and delete items....but always use disable first to be sure
> the item is
> > not needed. You must first re-enable all the disabled items in msconfig
> by
> > selecting Normal Startup and clicking OK, in order to have them all show
> up in the
> > startup manager, but you do not need to restart the computer after closing
> msconfig.
> > Just go right to the startup manager and disable what you need to, then
> reboot.
> >
> > Either startup manager available on this page will work....use one or the
> other:
> > http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Tom" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:%23%23OKDw%23kGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > > In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I clean
> out
> > > old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is long an
> old
> > > and outdated. tia
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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Tom
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Since: Jun 19, 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: startup menu [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thank-you all, I see the difficulties in performing this task. I will study
these, just too know the technique. This was cured in xp; true?
"glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:enh7sZSlGHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ron has posted the details in his reply. The third-party app is a tiny
utility, and
> saves one the extra work and risk of manually deleting the entries from
the Registry
> using the Registry editor. The method is the same, but much easier,
especially for
> users unfamiliar with working in the Registry, where a mistake can render
your
> Windows useless.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Tom" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ulocPWIlGHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Why third party software? Is there no approach in windows? If not, how
did a
> > vendor do this task?
> > "glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23%23R9iiBlGHA.5072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > > As REE suggested, use a third party free startup manager that has ther
> > option to
> > > both disable and delete items....but always use disable first to be
sure
> > the item is
> > > not needed. You must first re-enable all the disabled items in
msconfig
> > by
> > > selecting Normal Startup and clicking OK, in order to have them all
show
> > up in the
> > > startup manager, but you do not need to restart the computer after
closing
> > msconfig.
> > > Just go right to the startup manager and disable what you need to,
then
> > reboot.
> > >
> > > Either startup manager available on this page will work....use one or
the
> > other:
> > > http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tom" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:%23%23OKDw%23kGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > > > In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I
clean
> > out
> > > > old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is long
an
> > old
> > > > and outdated. tia
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Ron Badour1
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Since: Apr 15, 2004
Posts: 1754



PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: startup menu [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I don't know what you mean by it is cured in XP. The startup tab is working
just as it was designed to do and works the same way in XP.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Tom" <invalid.DeleteThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23UgnNYXlGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thank-you all, I see the difficulties in performing this task. I will
> study
> these, just too know the technique. This was cured in xp; true?
> "glee" <glee29.DeleteThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:enh7sZSlGHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ron has posted the details in his reply. The third-party app is a tiny
> utility, and
>> saves one the extra work and risk of manually deleting the entries from
> the Registry
>> using the Registry editor. The method is the same, but much easier,
> especially for
>> users unfamiliar with working in the Registry, where a mistake can render
> your
>> Windows useless.
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Tom" <invalid.DeleteThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:ulocPWIlGHA.1260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Why third party software? Is there no approach in windows? If not, how
> did a
>> > vendor do this task?
>> > "glee" <glee29.DeleteThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%23%23R9iiBlGHA.5072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > > As REE suggested, use a third party free startup manager that has
>> > > ther
>> > option to
>> > > both disable and delete items....but always use disable first to be
> sure
>> > the item is
>> > > not needed. You must first re-enable all the disabled items in
> msconfig
>> > by
>> > > selecting Normal Startup and clicking OK, in order to have them all
> show
>> > up in the
>> > > startup manager, but you do not need to restart the computer after
> closing
>> > msconfig.
>> > > Just go right to the startup manager and disable what you need to,
> then
>> > reboot.
>> > >
>> > > Either startup manager available on this page will work....use one or
> the
>> > other:
>> > > http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/
>> > > --
>> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Tom" <invalid.DeleteThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> > > news:%23%23OKDw%23kGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > > > In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I
> clean
>> > out
>> > > > old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is
>> > > > long
> an
>> > old
>> > > > and outdated. tia
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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kraut
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Since: Jun 22, 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: startup menu [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If you know anything about the registery you can edit the Run entries there.


"Tom" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
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> In msconfig,exe the startup menu for selective startup. How do I clean out
> old unwanted startups? Should I make a backup also? The list is long an
old
> and outdated. tia
>
>
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