speed/ram combos of winme systems here?

Ogg · External Since: Dec 28, 2005 Posts: 55

Just curious.. what are some of the speed/ram combinations of ME systems
represented in this ng?

Mine is:

CPU Type Intel Pentium IIIE, 1000 MHz (7.5 x 133)
CPU Alias Coppermine, CuMine, A80526
Original Clock 1000 MHz
L1 Code Cache 16 KB
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)
120gig hdd

Recently, I have been debating whether to piece-meal-upgrade my system with
more RAM, a new AGP video card, and a DVD burner.. stretching the life out
of my existing ME past the 6-year point, or simply get a new box with all
that including XP. I've been experiencing occassional video problems
(jumbled and incomplete characters at bootup) and random automatic Scandisks
at bootup that don't seem to have a cause.

John John · External Since: Jun 05, 2004 Posts: 1937

If you have the funds buy a new box instead of trying to throw more
money onto that now obsolete motherboard. Newer faster video cards run
on PCI Express and buying an AGP card in this day and age is a dead end
proposition unless you have no other choice or are really not intending
on replacing the computer for a while yet.

John

Ogg wrote:
> Just curious.. what are some of the speed/ram combinations of ME systems
> represented in this ng?
>
> Mine is:
>
> CPU Type Intel Pentium IIIE, 1000 MHz (7.5 x 133)
> CPU Alias Coppermine, CuMine, A80526
> Original Clock 1000 MHz
> L1 Code Cache 16 KB
> L1 Data Cache 16 KB
> L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)
> 120gig hdd
>
>
> Recently, I have been debating whether to piece-meal-upgrade my system with
> more RAM, a new AGP video card, and a DVD burner.. stretching the life out
> of my existing ME past the 6-year point, or simply get a new box with all
> that including XP. I've been experiencing occassional video problems
> (jumbled and incomplete characters at bootup) and random automatic Scandisks
> at bootup that don't seem to have a cause.
>
>

Mike M1 · External Since: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 4260

> or simply get a new box with all that including XP.

Personally I don't feel you should throw new money at what is an old
system. Use it to buy a new system. Remember that AGP has been replaced
by PCI-e. Note though that new systems are more likely to run a flavour
of Vista from 2007 than XP so depending on your feelings about Vista
either buy that new system soon or wait until after Vista launches.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows

Ogg wrote:

> Just curious.. what are some of the speed/ram combinations of ME
> systems represented in this ng?
>
> Mine is:
>
> CPU Type Intel Pentium IIIE, 1000 MHz (7.5 x 133)
> CPU Alias Coppermine, CuMine, A80526
> Original Clock 1000 MHz
> L1 Code Cache 16 KB
> L1 Data Cache 16 KB
> L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)
> 120gig hdd
>
>
> Recently, I have been debating whether to piece-meal-upgrade my
> system with more RAM, a new AGP video card, and a DVD burner..
> stretching the life out of my existing ME past the 6-year point, or
> simply get a new box with all that including XP. I've been
> experiencing occassional video problems (jumbled and incomplete
> characters at bootup) and random automatic Scandisks at bootup that
> don't seem to have a cause.

spamyou · External Since: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 565

Ogg wrote:
> Just curious.. what are some of the speed/ram combinations of ME systems
> represented in this ng?
>
> Mine is:
>
> CPU Type Intel Pentium IIIE, 1000 MHz (7.5 x 133)
> CPU Alias Coppermine, CuMine, A80526
> Original Clock 1000 MHz
> L1 Code Cache 16 KB
> L1 Data Cache 16 KB
> L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)
> 120gig hdd
>
>
> Recently, I have been debating whether to piece-meal-upgrade my system with
> more RAM, a new AGP video card, and a DVD burner.. stretching the life out
> of my existing ME past the 6-year point, or simply get a new box with all
> that including XP. I've been experiencing occassional video problems
> (jumbled and incomplete characters at bootup) and random automatic Scandisks
> at bootup that don't seem to have a cause.
>
>
It depends on your needs as a user. I currently am using a custom
build 98SE and XP Pro. machine that I greatly enjoy using. It is modern
since I upgrade it myself and it originally began life as a Falcon
Northwest computer and I have upgraded it as I needed better hardware to
run some of the latest games. I recently upgraded my Ati Radeon 9200
AGP with 128 mb's of video ram to the very best Ati Radeon graphics card
that 98SE can support through a Windows Millennium driver which is an
Ati Radeon 9800 XT AGP with 256 mb's of video memory and that will work
with Windows Vista Aero technology as well as XP and ME and 98SE.
I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 1 sound card that is slightly older
but is still supported by Creative with new drivers only for the XP
side. I currently have 512 mb's of ram but plan to upgrade to at least
a gigabyte or two of ram to support Windows Vista well and I will make
the proper memory adjustments in the software for 98SE since it does not
and cannot support more than 512 mb's of ram. I do not know if ME has
this limitation or not but I am sure people in this newsgroup can advise
you about that.
The reason that I like and keep this computer going is that it is a
hobby and I really like Windows 98 Second Edition. 98SE runs legacy DOS
programs well and simply does not have the overhead of the amount of
code that XP has as well as not having the amount of extra services that
I do not need. Sure there have been no drivers that support 98SE for
PCI Express and are not likely to be any but as of now I have no reason
to have the latest and greatest hardware. My motherboard supports DDR
memory and not DDR 2 memory but again I am satisfied with that as well.
I ran the Vista beta adviser and my machine came through with flying
colors after I upgraded the video card although I noticed the
information about the ram requirement that said it wanted at least a
gigabyte of ram for the premium experience.
Finally, there is the security concerns of XP compared to 98, 98SE
and ME that bother me. The secunia.com website talks about how XP
suffers from many vulnerabilities with at least one being critical.
This is true of Windows 2000 as well. 98, 98SE and ME only have 3 less
critical vulnerabilities and as long as you put these operating systems
behind a hardware firewall in a router with an antivirus program and
several antispyware programs then you should be in fairly good shape.

> http://secunia.com/product/1/

> http://secunia.com/product/14/

> http://secunia.com/product/22/

> http://secunia.com/product/13/

If you want any more information, then feel free to post back and I can
go into further details. The whole upgrade push for better security is
a scam in my opinion.

Ogg · External Since: Dec 28, 2005 Posts: 55

Hello, Dan!
You wrote on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:26:18 -0600:

D> ... I currently am using a custom build 98SE and XP Pro.
D> machine that I greatly enjoy using.
D> ... I recently upgraded my Ati Radeon 9200 AGP with 128
D> mb's of video ram to the very best Ati Radeon graphics card
D> that 98SE can support through a Windows Millennium driver
D> which is an Ati Radeon 9800 XT AGP with 256 mb's of video
D> memory and that will work with Windows Vista Aero technology
D> as well as XP and ME and 98SE.

Very nice. My WinME has a 64mb AGP 4x card. I thought I would be doing
pretty good if I upgraded to a 128mb! But I didn't want to spend more than
$70CDN for the card. There are some nice cards out there.. Hmmm.. is an 8x
AGP card backward compatible to 4x mode? I believe that my AGP chipset can
only handle 4x max. ATI Canada seems to be offering the Radeon® 9200 128MB
at $69 (free shipping)

What's the CPU speed of your PC? I'm still interested to learn what are
the various cpu speed/ram combos of WinME systems represented in this ng.

D> The reason that I like and keep this computer going is that it is
D> a hobby and I really like Windows 98 Second Edition. 98SE
D> runs legacy DOS programs well and simply does not have the
D> overhead of the amount of code that XP has as well as not
D> having the amount of extra services that I do not need. Sure there
D> have been no drivers that support 98SE for PCI Express and are
D> not likely to be any but as of now I have no reason to have the
D> latest and greatest hardware.

I hear ya. I'd love to keep this WinME system going as long as I can too.
I've already replaced the original NIC, added a 5-port USB 2.0 card, and
replaced the original 40gig hhd to a 120gig. I've purchased an external
250gig USB hdd that I'm accessing as a network share connected to an XP pc.

But now I'm experiencing a more persistent video problem at every boot-up.
At bootup (before the WindowsME splash screen appears), the characters on
the screen are incomplete, jumbled, and have mixed colours. A simple
Ctl-Alt-Del fixes the problem as the re-boot is interrupted and retries.
That's why I thought a new AGP card would fix that.

D> Finally, there is the security concerns of XP compared to 98,
D> 98SE and ME that bother me...
D> ....as long as you put these operating
D> systems behind a hardware firewall in a router with an antivirus
D> program and several antispyware programs then you should
D> be in fairly good shape.
D> ...The whole upgrade push for better
D> security is a scam in my opinion.

I hear ya! A simple router add-on would be a good solution for many people.
But remember that a majority of people are still on dialup. Self included.
Unless one can find a router that supports dialup, dialup users are stuck
with software anti-whatever solutions. Myself, I've enabled WinME's ICS.
It acts as a darn good in-bound firewall and port blocker in its own right.

John John · External Since: Jun 05, 2004 Posts: 1937

Excuse me while I butt in...

http://www.cancomputer.com/pc/index.php?upgrade=1&systemid=49
http://www.cancomputer.com/pc/index.php?upgrade=1&systemid=54

I wouldn't get an ATI card, get an Nvidia based one instead. I'm no fan
of the ATI Catalyst drivers. Most 8x agp cards will work in a 4x slot
but of course you will only have 4x speed.

John

Ogg wrote:

> Hello, Dan!
> You wrote on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:26:18 -0600:
>
> D> ... I currently am using a custom build 98SE and XP Pro.
> D> machine that I greatly enjoy using.
> D> ... I recently upgraded my Ati Radeon 9200 AGP with 128
> D> mb's of video ram to the very best Ati Radeon graphics card
> D> that 98SE can support through a Windows Millennium driver
> D> which is an Ati Radeon 9800 XT AGP with 256 mb's of video
> D> memory and that will work with Windows Vista Aero technology
> D> as well as XP and ME and 98SE.
>
> Very nice. My WinME has a 64mb AGP 4x card. I thought I would be doing
> pretty good if I upgraded to a 128mb! But I didn't want to spend more than
> $70CDN for the card. There are some nice cards out there.. Hmmm.. is an 8x
> AGP card backward compatible to 4x mode? I believe that my AGP chipset can
> only handle 4x max. ATI Canada seems to be offering the Radeon® 9200 128MB
> at $69 (free shipping)
>
> What's the CPU speed of your PC? I'm still interested to learn what are
> the various cpu speed/ram combos of WinME systems represented in this ng.
>
>
> D> The reason that I like and keep this computer going is that it is
> D> a hobby and I really like Windows 98 Second Edition. 98SE
> D> runs legacy DOS programs well and simply does not have the
> D> overhead of the amount of code that XP has as well as not
> D> having the amount of extra services that I do not need. Sure there
> D> have been no drivers that support 98SE for PCI Express and are
> D> not likely to be any but as of now I have no reason to have the
> D> latest and greatest hardware.
>
> I hear ya. I'd love to keep this WinME system going as long as I can too.
> I've already replaced the original NIC, added a 5-port USB 2.0 card, and
> replaced the original 40gig hhd to a 120gig. I've purchased an external
> 250gig USB hdd that I'm accessing as a network share connected to an XP pc.
>
> But now I'm experiencing a more persistent video problem at every boot-up.
> At bootup (before the WindowsME splash screen appears), the characters on
> the screen are incomplete, jumbled, and have mixed colours. A simple
> Ctl-Alt-Del fixes the problem as the re-boot is interrupted and retries.
> That's why I thought a new AGP card would fix that.
>
>
> D> Finally, there is the security concerns of XP compared to 98,
> D> 98SE and ME that bother me...
> D> ....as long as you put these operating
> D> systems behind a hardware firewall in a router with an antivirus
> D> program and several antispyware programs then you should
> D> be in fairly good shape.
> D> ...The whole upgrade push for better
> D> security is a scam in my opinion.
>
> I hear ya! A simple router add-on would be a good solution for many people.
> But remember that a majority of people are still on dialup. Self included.
> Unless one can find a router that supports dialup, dialup users are stuck
> with software anti-whatever solutions. Myself, I've enabled WinME's ICS.
> It acts as a darn good in-bound firewall and port blocker in its own right.
>
>

Ogg · External Since: Dec 28, 2005 Posts: 55

Hello, John!
You wrote on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:18:26 -0300:

JJ> Excuse me while I butt in...
JJ> http://www.cancomputer.com/pc/index.php?upgrade=1&systemid=49
JJ> http://www.cancomputer.com/pc/index.php?upgrade=1&systemid=54

Not sure how those links help me. The basic configurations are way out of
my price range if I were considering a new pc. The current deal for a Dell
5150 with PCIe upgrades (and free shipping) is more appealing. But then I
wouldn't attempt to bother with WinME on pc like that.

JJ> I wouldn't get an ATI card, get an Nvidia based one instead. I'm no
JJ> fan of the ATI Catalyst drivers. Most 8x agp cards will work in a
JJ> 4x slot but of course you will only have 4x speed.

Interesting comment about Nvidia .vs. ATI. I would have no idea why ATI's
Catalyst driver (if I knew what that was) would be a bad thing.

spamyou · External Since: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 565

Ogg wrote:
> Hello, Dan!
> You wrote on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:26:18 -0600:
>
> D> ... I currently am using a custom build 98SE and XP Pro.
> D> machine that I greatly enjoy using.
> D> ... I recently upgraded my Ati Radeon 9200 AGP with 128
> D> mb's of video ram to the very best Ati Radeon graphics card
> D> that 98SE can support through a Windows Millennium driver
> D> which is an Ati Radeon 9800 XT AGP with 256 mb's of video
> D> memory and that will work with Windows Vista Aero technology
> D> as well as XP and ME and 98SE.
>
> Very nice. My WinME has a 64mb AGP 4x card. I thought I would be doing
> pretty good if I upgraded to a 128mb! But I didn't want to spend more than
> $70CDN for the card. There are some nice cards out there.. Hmmm.. is an 8x
> AGP card backward compatible to 4x mode? I believe that my AGP chipset can
> only handle 4x max. ATI Canada seems to be offering the Radeon® 9200 128MB
> at $69 (free shipping)
>
> What's the CPU speed of your PC? I'm still interested to learn what are
> the various cpu speed/ram combos of WinME systems represented in this ng.
>
>
> D> The reason that I like and keep this computer going is that it is
> D> a hobby and I really like Windows 98 Second Edition. 98SE
> D> runs legacy DOS programs well and simply does not have the
> D> overhead of the amount of code that XP has as well as not
> D> having the amount of extra services that I do not need. Sure there
> D> have been no drivers that support 98SE for PCI Express and are
> D> not likely to be any but as of now I have no reason to have the
> D> latest and greatest hardware.
>
> I hear ya. I'd love to keep this WinME system going as long as I can too.
> I've already replaced the original NIC, added a 5-port USB 2.0 card, and
> replaced the original 40gig hhd to a 120gig. I've purchased an external
> 250gig USB hdd that I'm accessing as a network share connected to an XP pc.
>
> But now I'm experiencing a more persistent video problem at every boot-up.
> At bootup (before the WindowsME splash screen appears), the characters on
> the screen are incomplete, jumbled, and have mixed colours. A simple
> Ctl-Alt-Del fixes the problem as the re-boot is interrupted and retries.
> That's why I thought a new AGP card would fix that.
>
>
> D> Finally, there is the security concerns of XP compared to 98,
> D> 98SE and ME that bother me...
> D> ....as long as you put these operating
> D> systems behind a hardware firewall in a router with an antivirus
> D> program and several antispyware programs then you should
> D> be in fairly good shape.
> D> ...The whole upgrade push for better
> D> security is a scam in my opinion.
>
> I hear ya! A simple router add-on would be a good solution for many people.
> But remember that a majority of people are still on dialup. Self included.
> Unless one can find a router that supports dialup, dialup users are stuck
> with software anti-whatever solutions. Myself, I've enabled WinME's ICS.
> It acts as a darn good in-bound firewall and port blocker in its own right.
>
>
Intel 2.4 Ghz. PC and this article talks about the Ati 9800XT price but
I acquired it new on Ebay for about $137 dollars. I think the AGP card
is 8x/4x AGP compatible and what is the speed of your PC and maker of
CPU. My system accepts the 8x AGP. <so sweet> I have an Antec Power
Supply with 400+ watts (I think it is 450 watts but I am too lazy to
look it up right now. BTW, the 9200 Ati graphics card is no longer
supported by Ati and you need to buy at least a 9500 graphics card if
you want a supported one.

http://reviews.digitaltrends.com/review1510.html

spamyou · External Since: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 565

John John wrote:
> Excuse me while I butt in...
>
> http://www.cancomputer.com/pc/index.php?upgrade=1&systemid=49
> http://www.cancomputer.com/pc/index.php?upgrade=1&systemid=54
>
> I wouldn't get an ATI card, get an Nvidia based one instead. I'm no fan
> of the ATI Catalyst drivers. Most 8x agp cards will work in a 4x slot
> but of course you will only have 4x speed.
>
> John
>
> Ogg wrote:
>
>> Hello, Dan!
>> You wrote on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:26:18 -0600:
>>
>> D> ... I currently am using a custom build 98SE and XP Pro.
>> D> machine that I greatly enjoy using.
>> D> ... I recently upgraded my Ati Radeon 9200 AGP with 128
>> D> mb's of video ram to the very best Ati Radeon graphics card
>> D> that 98SE can support through a Windows Millennium driver
>> D> which is an Ati Radeon 9800 XT AGP with 256 mb's of video
>> D> memory and that will work with Windows Vista Aero technology
>> D> as well as XP and ME and 98SE.
>>
>> Very nice. My WinME has a 64mb AGP 4x card. I thought I would be doing
>> pretty good if I upgraded to a 128mb! But I didn't want to spend more
>> than
>> $70CDN for the card. There are some nice cards out there.. Hmmm.. is
>> an 8x
>> AGP card backward compatible to 4x mode? I believe that my AGP
>> chipset can
>> only handle 4x max. ATI Canada seems to be offering the Radeon® 9200
>> 128MB
>> at $69 (free shipping)
>>
>> What's the CPU speed of your PC? I'm still interested to learn what are
>> the various cpu speed/ram combos of WinME systems represented in this ng.
>>
>>
>> D> The reason that I like and keep this computer going is that it is
>> D> a hobby and I really like Windows 98 Second Edition. 98SE
>> D> runs legacy DOS programs well and simply does not have the
>> D> overhead of the amount of code that XP has as well as not
>> D> having the amount of extra services that I do not need. Sure there
>> D> have been no drivers that support 98SE for PCI Express and are
>> D> not likely to be any but as of now I have no reason to have the
>> D> latest and greatest hardware.
>>
>> I hear ya. I'd love to keep this WinME system going as long as I can
>> too.
>> I've already replaced the original NIC, added a 5-port USB 2.0 card, and
>> replaced the original 40gig hhd to a 120gig. I've purchased an external
>> 250gig USB hdd that I'm accessing as a network share connected to an
>> XP pc.
>>
>> But now I'm experiencing a more persistent video problem at every
>> boot-up.
>> At bootup (before the WindowsME splash screen appears), the characters on
>> the screen are incomplete, jumbled, and have mixed colours. A simple
>> Ctl-Alt-Del fixes the problem as the re-boot is interrupted and retries.
>> That's why I thought a new AGP card would fix that.
>>
>>
>> D> Finally, there is the security concerns of XP compared to 98,
>> D> 98SE and ME that bother me...
>> D> ....as long as you put these operating
>> D> systems behind a hardware firewall in a router with an antivirus
>> D> program and several antispyware programs then you should
>> D> be in fairly good shape.
>> D> ...The whole upgrade push for better
>> D> security is a scam in my opinion.
>>
>> I hear ya! A simple router add-on would be a good solution for many
>> people.
>> But remember that a majority of people are still on dialup. Self
>> included.
>> Unless one can find a router that supports dialup, dialup users are stuck
>> with software anti-whatever solutions. Myself, I've enabled WinME's
>> ICS.
>> It acts as a darn good in-bound firewall and port blocker in its own
>> right.
>>
>>
>
No Way! I would not get an Nvidia graphics card since when I upgraded
from a 3dfx graphics card --- the Nvidia graphics card trashed my
computer and I will not let that happen again. Fortunately, I had
backups and the Ati graphics card loaded onto the system without a hitch.

Heather · External Since: May 20, 2004 Posts: 401

"Ogg" wrote in message

> Hello, John!
> You wrote on Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:18:26 -0300:
>
> JJ> Excuse me while I butt in...
> JJ> http://www.cancomputer.com/pc/index.php?upgrade=1&systemid=49
> JJ> http://www.cancomputer.com/pc/index.php?upgrade=1&systemid=54
>
> Not sure how those links help me. The basic configurations are way
> out of
> my price range if I were considering a new pc. The current deal for a
> Dell
> 5150 with PCIe upgrades (and free shipping) is more appealing. But
> then I
> wouldn't attempt to bother with WinME on pc like that.
>
>
> JJ> I wouldn't get an ATI card, get an Nvidia based one instead. I'm
> no
> JJ> fan of the ATI Catalyst drivers. Most 8x agp cards will work in
> a
> JJ> 4x slot but of course you will only have 4x speed.
>
> Interesting comment about Nvidia .vs. ATI. I would have no idea why
> ATI's Catalyst driver (if I knew what that was) would be a bad thing.
>
Me neither and I DO have that. Had nVidia on the old WinME, but ATI
with Catalyst on this XP one. Mart???

Cheers....Figgs

Mike M1 · External Since: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 4260

I have various version ATI Catalyst drivers running here on various boxes
and laptops of various vintages using varying operating systems (Win Me
through Vista RC1 including x64 systems) with graphics cards ranging from
an ATI Radeon 7000 to an X200M in a Toshiba laptop. All run without the
slightest problem.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows

Heather wrote:

> Me neither and I DO have that. Had nVidia on the old WinME, but ATI
> with Catalyst on this XP one. Mart???

Heather · External Since: May 20, 2004 Posts: 401

Thanks Mike.....and it was JJ, not Mart that said it. This is a Radeon
Sapphire 9600 Atlantis or some such. Not quite sure what the ATI
Control Centre does. Seems to have something called "Hydravision" as
well.

Heather

"Mike M" wrote in message

>I have various version ATI Catalyst drivers running here on various
>boxes and laptops of various vintages using varying operating systems
>(Win Me through Vista RC1 including x64 systems) with graphics cards
>ranging from an ATI Radeon 7000 to an X200M in a Toshiba laptop. All
>run without the slightest problem.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> MS-MVP Windows
>
>
>
> Heather wrote:
>
>> Me neither and I DO have that. Had nVidia on the old WinME, but ATI
>> with Catalyst on this XP one. Mart???
>

spamyou · External Since: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 565

Mike M wrote:
> I have various version ATI Catalyst drivers running here on various
> boxes and laptops of various vintages using varying operating systems
> (Win Me through Vista RC1 including x64 systems) with graphics cards
> ranging from an ATI Radeon 7000 to an X200M in a Toshiba laptop. All
> run without the slightest problem.

Exactly, why the Ati graphics card choice is the right one, imo.

spamyou · External Since: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 565

Heather wrote:
> Thanks Mike.....and it was JJ, not Mart that said it. This is a Radeon
> Sapphire 9600 Atlantis or some such. Not quite sure what the ATI
> Control Centre does. Seems to have something called "Hydravision" as
> well.
>
> Heather
>
> "Mike M" wrote in message
>
>> I have various version ATI Catalyst drivers running here on various
>> boxes and laptops of various vintages using varying operating systems
>> (Win Me through Vista RC1 including x64 systems) with graphics cards
>> ranging from an ATI Radeon 7000 to an X200M in a Toshiba laptop. All
>> run without the slightest problem.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>> MS-MVP Windows
>>
>>
>>
>> Heather wrote:
>>
>>> Me neither and I DO have that. Had nVidia on the old WinME, but ATI
>>> with Catalyst on this XP one. Mart???
>
>
I do not use or bother with Hydravision since I only have one monitor.

http://www.ati.com/products/Hydravision/index.html

Mart · External Since: Apr 09, 2005 Posts: 1119

Heather wrote :-

> Thanks Mike.....and it was JJ, not Mart that said it

Phew!! - I have enough 'Senior Moments' without involving me in more <g>

Mart

"Heather" wrote in message

> Thanks Mike.....and it was JJ, not Mart that said it. This is a Radeon
> Sapphire 9600 Atlantis or some such. Not quite sure what the ATI Control
> Centre does. Seems to have something called "Hydravision" as well.
>
> Heather
>
> "Mike M" wrote in message
>
>>I have various version ATI Catalyst drivers running here on various boxes
>>and laptops of various vintages using varying operating systems (Win Me
>>through Vista RC1 including x64 systems) with graphics cards ranging from
>>an ATI Radeon 7000 to an X200M in a Toshiba laptop. All run without the
>>slightest problem.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>> MS-MVP Windows
>>
>>
>>
>> Heather wrote:
>>
>>> Me neither and I DO have that. Had nVidia on the old WinME, but ATI
>>> with Catalyst on this XP one. Mart???
>>
>
>

msoswin2 · External Since: Oct 24, 2004 Posts: 57

"Ogg" in

> I hear ya! A simple router add-on would be a good solution for many
> people. But remember that a majority of people are still on dialup.
> Self included. Unless one can find a router that supports dialup,
> dialup users are stuck with software anti-whatever solutions.
> Myself, I've enabled WinME's ICS. It acts as a darn good in-bound
> firewall and port blocker in its own right.

from what i've ***read***, i think the only way is to run firewall software (monowall? smoothwall? ipcop?) on an old computer
(p2 etc) which has multiple nics and a phone modem.

there are a few obscure routers that have serial modem inputs. but serial modems are probably special order from a dusty
warehouse in outer kazikistan (fake name). i looked into this about 4 years ago. the warehouse was probably used (kaboom) in a
hollywood "action" flick and so is no longer there today**. Smile

** and elvis had to find a new residence

msoswin2 · External Since: Oct 24, 2004 Posts: 57

"Heather" in news:u1#QRWs1GHA.1568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> Seems to have something called "Hydravision" as
> well.

you have to work underwater, wearing goggles? what's wrong with just a regular grpahics card?
Smile

msoswin2 · External Since: Oct 24, 2004 Posts: 57

"Ogg" in

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duron 802 (as reported my msinfo32) fic az-11
20gb hd 100 ata
512 133mhz sdram at 100 mhz
external usb drive for backups.
some hardware is falling apart. no further investment is rational.

now this reminds me of adam sandler's pos song**. (the spring in the seat, tailpipe, etc)

**kazikistan (fake state name) reggae.