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Tassie
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: problem backing-up
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Hi! I had drama while trying to back-up. I've never been able to go through
all the steps in backing-up.

Today, I opened a D drive program (nero) clicking on make data disk, then
opened "my documents" and dragged all the files into the nero window. Then
from my comp, dragged all the files I wanted to the nero win. By that time
the disk was showing nearly full. But I wasn't sure of the next step. So I
clicked on "add" and a win came up showing my comp and D drive. So I clicked
on D. Then closed that win, and clicked " next" on the previous nero win.

After about 10 minutes, a message came up saying: " nero is not responding."
I clicked" ok", then a win came up saying:
"THE SYSTEM IS DANGEROUSLY LOW ON RESOURCES. DO YOU WANT TO CANCEL?" When I
clicked on "yes" the comp froze and wouldn't respond to "cont,alt, del". So I
had to turn it off at the button.

I need to make back-ups because I'm getting a new (second hand) comp.

I might be asking too much, but I'd be real grateful if some one could take
me through the steps on back-up onto CD, and should I do some thing to handle
the "low on resources?" I've cleaned the cache files.
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Don Phillipson
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: problem backing-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Tassie" <tassie.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D8D79942-3A8A-4606-B232-06BB0EFC45D5@microsoft.com...

> Today, I opened a D drive program (nero) clicking on make data disk, then
> opened "my documents" and dragged all the files into the nero window. Then
> from my comp, dragged all the files I wanted to the nero win. . . .
> After about 10 minutes, a message came up saying: " nero is not
responding."

Nero CD writing software is not the best way to copy
to CD for backup. Better write a batch file to do so,
and segregate (a) programmes & configurations,
(b) data files.

> I need to make back-ups because I'm getting a new (second hand) comp.

The easiest way to transfer stuff is to connect the hard drive from
the old PC into the new PC as Hard Drive #2 and then copy over.

1. First you should instal the Operating System afresh on the
new PC and instal your main applications, see
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html

2. Then put your old hard drive into the new PC. Because
bootable, your old C: drive appears in the new PC as drive D:
(and any others follow in sequence. This is where unique
drive names are useful.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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Jeff Richards
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: problem backing-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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When you have dragged enough files into the Nero win so that the available
space is nearly all used, then select "Next", check that the settings are
correct and select "Burn". The files that have been dragged to the win will
be burnt to the CD. Repeat with new disks as required until everything is
backed up.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Tassie" <tassie RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D8D79942-3A8A-4606-B232-06BB0EFC45D5@microsoft.com...
> Hi! I had drama while trying to back-up. I've never been able to go
> through
> all the steps in backing-up.
>
> Today, I opened a D drive program (nero) clicking on make data disk, then
> opened "my documents" and dragged all the files into the nero window. Then
> from my comp, dragged all the files I wanted to the nero win. By that time
> the disk was showing nearly full. But I wasn't sure of the next step. So I
> clicked on "add" and a win came up showing my comp and D drive. So I
> clicked
> on D. Then closed that win, and clicked " next" on the previous nero win.
>
> After about 10 minutes, a message came up saying: " nero is not
> responding."
> I clicked" ok", then a win came up saying:
> "THE SYSTEM IS DANGEROUSLY LOW ON RESOURCES. DO YOU WANT TO CANCEL?" When
> I
> clicked on "yes" the comp froze and wouldn't respond to "cont,alt, del".
> So I
> had to turn it off at the button.
>
> I need to make back-ups because I'm getting a new (second hand) comp.
>
> I might be asking too much, but I'd be real grateful if some one could
> take
> me through the steps on back-up onto CD, and should I do some thing to
> handle
> the "low on resources?" I've cleaned the cache files.
>
>
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Tassie
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: problem backing-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dear Jeff

Thanks very much for the information. I have done that now successfully.

It was bugging me for months.

"Jeff Richards" wrote:

> When you have dragged enough files into the Nero win so that the available
> space is nearly all used, then select "Next", check that the settings are
> correct and select "Burn". The files that have been dragged to the win will
> be burnt to the CD. Repeat with new disks as required until everything is
> backed up.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Tassie" <tassie RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D8D79942-3A8A-4606-B232-06BB0EFC45D5@microsoft.com...
> > Hi! I had drama while trying to back-up. I've never been able to go
> > through
> > all the steps in backing-up.
> >
> > Today, I opened a D drive program (nero) clicking on make data disk, then
> > opened "my documents" and dragged all the files into the nero window. Then
> > from my comp, dragged all the files I wanted to the nero win. By that time
> > the disk was showing nearly full. But I wasn't sure of the next step. So I
> > clicked on "add" and a win came up showing my comp and D drive. So I
> > clicked
> > on D. Then closed that win, and clicked " next" on the previous nero win.
> >
> > After about 10 minutes, a message came up saying: " nero is not
> > responding."
> > I clicked" ok", then a win came up saying:
> > "THE SYSTEM IS DANGEROUSLY LOW ON RESOURCES. DO YOU WANT TO CANCEL?" When
> > I
> > clicked on "yes" the comp froze and wouldn't respond to "cont,alt, del".
> > So I
> > had to turn it off at the button.
> >
> > I need to make back-ups because I'm getting a new (second hand) comp.
> >
> > I might be asking too much, but I'd be real grateful if some one could
> > take
> > me through the steps on back-up onto CD, and should I do some thing to
> > handle
> > the "low on resources?" I've cleaned the cache files.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Tassie
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: problem backing-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dear Don

Thank you for that information. I am pretty much a novice

now, so some of it was a bit "over my head" but it sounds

more secure if you can do that. So I have kept a copy of the

data to use when I become knowledgeable.

Can you please tell me why "nero" is not so good? Do the different

applications need to be separated?



"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "Tassie" <tassie.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D8D79942-3A8A-4606-B232-06BB0EFC45D5@microsoft.com...
>
> > Today, I opened a D drive program (nero) clicking on make data disk, then
> > opened "my documents" and dragged all the files into the nero window. Then
> > from my comp, dragged all the files I wanted to the nero win. . . .
> > After about 10 minutes, a message came up saying: " nero is not
> responding."
>
> Nero CD writing software is not the best way to copy
> to CD for backup. Better write a batch file to do so,
> and segregate (a) programmes & configurations,
> (b) data files.
>
> > I need to make back-ups because I'm getting a new (second hand) comp.
>
> The easiest way to transfer stuff is to connect the hard drive from
> the old PC into the new PC as Hard Drive #2 and then copy over.
>
> 1. First you should instal the Operating System afresh on the
> new PC and instal your main applications, see
> http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html
>
> 2. Then put your old hard drive into the new PC. Because
> bootable, your old C: drive appears in the new PC as drive D:
> (and any others follow in sequence. This is where unique
> drive names are useful.)
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>
>
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Jeff Richards
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Since: Mar 14, 2004
Posts: 1333



PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: problem backing-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Glad to hear that you got it sorted out.

Note that there are a very large number of ways to do a backup. Your
procedure will allow you to restore whole folders or individual files or any
combination from the CD back into a working Windows system. It won't have
to be the same machine or even the same operating system. It is therefore a
very effective safety copy of important files.

However, it is not a full system backup. If you have a complete hardware
breakdown (such as the hard disk drive failing) then you will firstly have
to build yourself a new working Windows system, and then use the backup CDs
to recover whatever files you want. You will not be able to reinstall your
applications from those CDs - you will need to reinstall the applications
from their original installation CDs. Some files, such as you e-mail
messages, may need a special procedure in order to bring them back from the
CD into the new system.

Some people would regard your form of backup as insufficient. For many
users who would probably get someone else to re-install Windows if they ever
had a complete system failure, it may well be perfectly adequate.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Tassie" <tassie RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:06700495-3E2E-4F0B-99F1-6B0C2934B4EA@microsoft.com...
> Dear Jeff
>
> Thanks very much for the information. I have done that now successfully.
>
> It was bugging me for months.
>
> "Jeff Richards" wrote:
>
>> When you have dragged enough files into the Nero win so that the
>> available
>> space is nearly all used, then select "Next", check that the settings are
>> correct and select "Burn". The files that have been dragged to the win
>> will
>> be burnt to the CD. Repeat with new disks as required until everything
>> is
>> backed up.
>> --
>> Jeff Richards
>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> "Tassie" <tassie RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D8D79942-3A8A-4606-B232-06BB0EFC45D5@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi! I had drama while trying to back-up. I've never been able to go
>> > through
>> > all the steps in backing-up.
>> >
>> > Today, I opened a D drive program (nero) clicking on make data disk,
>> > then
>> > opened "my documents" and dragged all the files into the nero window.
>> > Then
>> > from my comp, dragged all the files I wanted to the nero win. By that
>> > time
>> > the disk was showing nearly full. But I wasn't sure of the next step.
>> > So I
>> > clicked on "add" and a win came up showing my comp and D drive. So I
>> > clicked
>> > on D. Then closed that win, and clicked " next" on the previous nero
>> > win.
>> >
>> > After about 10 minutes, a message came up saying: " nero is not
>> > responding."
>> > I clicked" ok", then a win came up saying:
>> > "THE SYSTEM IS DANGEROUSLY LOW ON RESOURCES. DO YOU WANT TO CANCEL?"
>> > When
>> > I
>> > clicked on "yes" the comp froze and wouldn't respond to "cont,alt,
>> > del".
>> > So I
>> > had to turn it off at the button.
>> >
>> > I need to make back-ups because I'm getting a new (second hand) comp.
>> >
>> > I might be asking too much, but I'd be real grateful if some one could
>> > take
>> > me through the steps on back-up onto CD, and should I do some thing to
>> > handle
>> > the "low on resources?" I've cleaned the cache files.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Don Phillipson
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Since: Oct 10, 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: problem backing-up [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Tassie" <tassie.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Can you please tell me why "nero" is not so good?

Your first post answered this question:
> . . . dragged all the files I wanted to the nero win. By that time
> the disk was showing nearly full. But I wasn't sure of the next step. So I
> clicked on "add" and a win came up showing my comp and D drive. So I
clicked
> on D. Then closed that win, and clicked " next" on the previous nero win.
> After about 10 minutes, a message came up saying: " nero is not
responding."

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)\
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