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nomail1983
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: How to disable OE6 "compact message" prompt?
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Whenever we exit Outlook Express (at least after entering the Inbox),
we get a prompt asking if we want to compact messages (Ok or Cancel).

Is there some way to disable that prompt?

We are using Win XP Pro SP2 with recent updates. IE6 version is
6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050622-1524. OE6 version is
6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158.

To get the latest OE6 updates (if any), do we update Windows or update
Office or update something else entirely (what?)?
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nomail1983
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: How to disable OE6 "compact message" prompt? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ted Zieglar wrote:
> You want Outlook Express to compact your messages, otherwise you risk
> data corruption and loss of some or all of your messages.

The user of OE is a novice. I get a call for every "strange" warning
message -- and every message is strange, no matter how many times I
explain it.

In short, I want to disable the prompt. How do I do it?

> Compaction means consolidating the available space from deleted
> messages. OE offers to compact after every 100th time you've closed the
> program.

OE has "offered" to compact message __every__ time we used the program
today (about a dozen times). I cannot speak for the 88 times before,
but the user made a note of other times before.

With a 145 GB, 90% unused so far, space is not an issue. Usability is.

If there is an option to always compact messages without OE prompting,
I will consider it. We simply want to get rid of the prompt.

> This is such a well known feature of Outlook Express - search the web to
> read more about it.

Thanks. I will. I tried OE Help, but of course that was no help at
all.
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Ted Zieglar
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: How to disable OE6 "compact message" prompt? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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You want Outlook Express to compact your messages, otherwise you risk
data corruption and loss of some or all of your messages.

Compaction means consolidating the available space from deleted
messages. OE offers to compact after every 100th time you've closed the
program.

This is such a well known feature of Outlook Express - search the web to
read more about it.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

wrote:
> Whenever we exit Outlook Express (at least after entering the Inbox),
> we get a prompt asking if we want to compact messages (Ok or Cancel).
>
> Is there some way to disable that prompt?
>
> We are using Win XP Pro SP2 with recent updates. IE6 version is
> 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050622-1524. OE6 version is
> 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158.
>
> To get the latest OE6 updates (if any), do we update Windows or update
> Office or update something else entirely (what?)?
>
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Ron Sommer
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: How to disable OE6 "compact message" prompt? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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wrote in message

: Ted Zieglar wrote:
: > You want Outlook Express to compact your messages, otherwise you risk
: > data corruption and loss of some or all of your messages.
:
: The user of OE is a novice. I get a call for every "strange" warning
: message -- and every message is strange, no matter how many times I
: explain it.
:
: In short, I want to disable the prompt. How do I do it?
:
: > Compaction means consolidating the available space from deleted
: > messages. OE offers to compact after every 100th time you've closed the
: > program.
:
: OE has "offered" to compact message __every__ time we used the program
: today (about a dozen times). I cannot speak for the 88 times before,
: but the user made a note of other times before.

OE offers to compact at every closing after 100 closings until you allow the
compaction which resets the count to zero.
The compaction should be allowed to complete without switching to another
program.

This program has a compaction key that resets the counter after the
compaction.
http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/Default.aspx

If you used a program 12 times each day, why don't you minimize instead of
closing?
--
Ron Sommer

:
: With a 145 GB, 90% unused so far, space is not an issue. Usability is.
:
: If there is an option to always compact messages without OE prompting,
: I will consider it. We simply want to get rid of the prompt.
:
: > This is such a well known feature of Outlook Express - search the web to
: > read more about it.
:
: Thanks. I will. I tried OE Help, but of course that was no help at
: all.
:
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: How to disable OE6 "compact message" prompt? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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wrote in message

> Whenever we exit Outlook Express (at least after entering the Inbox),
> we get a prompt asking if we want to compact messages (Ok or Cancel).
>
> Is there some way to disable that prompt?
>
> We are using Win XP Pro SP2 with recent updates. IE6 version is
> 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050622-1524. OE6 version is
> 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158.
>
> To get the latest OE6 updates (if any), do we update Windows or update
> Office or update something else entirely (what?)?
>

Compacting of folders is necessary or they will become corrupted or else so
large that they can no longer be used. Deleting a message does not reclaim
the space. The message is marked as deleted but is still there until the
folder is compacted. That is why programs such as DBXtract work.

If a user closes compacting while compacting is in progress data loss will
probably occur.

Open OE and close it and let it compact the messages. After doing this it
won't ask again until you have closed OE 100 times.

If you have WinXP SP2 you will want this update:
There are two articles, KB918766 and KB918651, but the latter is not
currently available. The download link is
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=86b68a78-f325-4a95-98c2-98af2256ccc3&DisplayLang=en

It places the backup in Recycled, overwriting any earlier backup of the
sane folder(s). To use it, copy it to the store folder, delete the one you
want to replace and then rename the BAK file to DBX. (It's a bit more
complicated if the messed up DBX file isn't there or contains messages that
are hew that you want to keep.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
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nomail1983
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: How to disable OE6 "compact message" prompt? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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wrote:
> Whenever we exit Outlook Express (at least after entering the Inbox),
> we get a prompt asking if we want to compact messages (Ok or Cancel).
> Is there some way to disable that prompt?

People, you are missing the point. This is not a debate compaction.
Fine, let OE compact whenever it wants to.

The question is: how to I get rid of the prompt?

The user is flustered by every little prompt, and she has a memory like
a gnat (the opposite of "like an elephant" :->).

Is there a way to configure OE so that it will compact automagically
and silently?
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nomail1983
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: How to disable OE6 "compact message" prompt? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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HeyBub wrote:
> wrote:
> > The question is: how to I get rid of the prompt?
>
> You can't.

Thanks for the confirmation.
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HeyBub
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: How to disable OE6 "compact message" prompt? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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wrote:
> wrote:
>> Whenever we exit Outlook Express (at least after entering the Inbox),
>> we get a prompt asking if we want to compact messages (Ok or Cancel).
>> Is there some way to disable that prompt?
>
> People, you are missing the point. This is not a debate compaction.
> Fine, let OE compact whenever it wants to.
>
> The question is: how to I get rid of the prompt?

You can't.

It's your lot in life to say "Hit 'OK' "

Imagine, just imagine, how much more difficult your life will be if you
WERE, somehow, to disable the message and your user encountered the
inevitable corruption.
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yamdigger



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

I notice that when I disable Windows Desktop Search (it came in SP2), the problem goes away.

If after you delete desktop search, the message still comes frequently, go into the registry and reset the the OE message count. You can find how to do this on other forums.

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tedparadise



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Delete the Temporary Internet Files
1.
In Internet Explorer, click Internet Options on the Tools menu.

2.
In the Temporary Internet files panel, click Delete files.

3.
In the pop-up alert window, select the Remove all offline files check box, and then click OK.


If you do not select the check box, the temporary files used by Outlook Express will not be removed.



Remove all offline files to delete Outlook Express temporary files.


This step often comes as a surprise. Each time you display a message, either in a message window or in the Preview pane, Outlook Express creates a temporary file to help it display the contents of the message. Each of those temporary files is stored in the Temporary Internet Files folder that is used by Internet Explorer. Sometimes one or more files in this folder are damaged, and that can cause Outlook Express to exhibit strange symptoms when displaying messages. All the files in Temporary Internet files truly are temporary, so there is no danger in deleting them. Doing so will not delete the actual messages in Outlook Express.

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Compact all folders
• In Outlook Express, click Work Offline on the File menu so that no new messages will be arriving.

• In the Folder List, click on Outlook Express so that no e-mail or news folder is open.

• Close the Folder List by clicking the X in the upper right-hand corner of the list panel. Alternatively you can click Layout on the View menu, and then clear the Folder List check box.

• On the File menu, point to Folder, and then click Compact All Folders. Do not use your computer until the process is complete, which might take several minutes.


If an error occurs, close Outlook Express, re-open it, and begin the process again from the top. If the same error occurs again, close Outlook Express, restart your computer (or log off and then log on again), open Outlook Express and then begin the whole process again.



Let the compaction process finish before you try to use your computer.


Many bizarre behaviors in Outlook Express are caused by small errors in the file “Folders.dbx.” This file is the master index of the message store folder and damaged entries there can create all sorts of fun, such as the wrong message or folder being displayed. When you compact all folders you are also updating this master index. If you don’t compact all folders from time to time, you are more likely to see distinctly unfunny behavior. For more on preventing and recovering from serious file corruption please see my earlier column on file corruption in Outlook Express.

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Reregister Outlook Express
Damaged or missing entries in the Windows registry can prevent Outlook Express from being recognized as the default e-mail client. That it turn can cause odd behavior when replying to a newsgroup message or clicking an e-mail link on a Web page. A simple procedure causes Outlook Express to rewrite its main registry keys and so corrects such issues.

1.
Click Start, and then click Run.

2.
In the Open box, type msimn /reg, and then click OK.
(Note that you will not see anything happen.)

3.
In Internet Explorer click Options on the Tools menu.

4.
Click the Programs tab and select Outlook Express as the default e-mail client and as the default news client. You can change those later if you wish.


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Reregister libraries
Dynamic Link Libraries (DLLs) are files that contain functions that may be shared by other programs, such as recognizing hyperlinks, displaying rich content, and so forth. These specific DLLs are used by Outlook Express, and can cause glitches in the visual display if they are damaged. Reregistering a DLL using regsvr32 is similar to reinstalling those functions and thus makes sure they are installed and working correctly.

1.
Click Start, and then click Run.

2.
In the Open box, type regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and then click OK.

3.
Repeat step 1 for each of the following commands:
regsvr32 mshtml.dll
regsvr32 shdocvw.dll
regsvr32 browseui.dll
regsvr32 msjava.dll


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Create a new identity
This will create a new message store folder as well as all new registry keys. This should not be necessary unless our previous efforts have failed to correct the problems.

1.
Export your e-mail and news accounts in Outlook Express so that you can import them into a new Identity.

1.
Click Accounts on the Outlook Express Tools menu.

2.
Click the Mail tab and select the default account.

3.
Click the Export button and select a location for the exported file. Make sure the extension remains “iaf” (for Internet account file).

4.
Repeat steps 1.2 and 1.3 for all accounts.

5.
Click the News tab and repeat steps 1.3 and 1.4 for all accounts.

6.
After all mail and news accounts have been exported, click Close.


2.
On the File menu, click Identities, and then click Add New Identity.

3.
Type a name for the new Identity, and then click OK.



A new Identity allows you to start Outlook Express with all default settings, a useful way to work around registry or file damage.


4.
Click Yes to switch to the new Identity.

5.
Click Cancel to close the New Account wizard. If you are prompted to import settings or messages, select “Do not import at this time” or Cancel.

6.
Click Accounts on the Tools menu.

7.
Click the Import button and select the first *.iaf file from step 1. Repeat until all accounts have been imported.

8.
Import the mail messages from your old Identity.

• On the File menu, click Import, and then click Messages.

• Select Microsoft Outlook Express 6 from the list of programs, and then click Next.

• Select the name of the Identity to import, and then click OK.



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Reinstall or repair Outlook Express
By now you have repaired the most common causes of funny glitches in Outlook Express. If the strange behavior is still happening, it is time to reinstall or repair the basic Outlook Express program files themselves. Because both Internet Explorer and Outlook Express are integrated into Windows itself, doing so is a little more complicated than for most programs. Microsoft has therefore prepared a detailed guide to reinstall or repair both Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. Be sure to read the article carefully and follow only the steps for your version of Windows and Service Packs.

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Third-party repair tools
There are several third-party applications that are written specifically to repair Outlook Express. I personally have not tested any of them, seeing that most problems can be corrected with the basic repair procedures I’ve outlined here. One possible advantage of third-party tools is that they almost all include features to repair damaged message files. But for most cases of “funny stuff,” they really are overkill. If you type “repair Outlook Express” into your favorite search engine you are sure to find several to consider. For example, searching at Windows Marketplace yields some good examples of what is available.

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