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guru2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: cracking kerberos password
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we are having windows 2000 domain controller. clients are windows xp
professional.

our auditor used cain and abel and sniffed the login traffic. He said he got
the NTLM Hash. Using some password cracker , since password was simple he
cracked it too.

I have a few questions

First, is this possible?

Second, When I login from windows xp professional to windows 2000 DC , are
we not using kerberos? Can kerberos login traffic be sniffed and
password-hash extracted.?

Third , Apart from using long and complex passwords any other mechanism to
safeguard against this?
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Steve Riley [MSFT]
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: cracking kerberos password [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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1. Yes, but if he truly got the hash, then you have other security issues to
worry about. Windows never sends the hashes over the network--instead,
they're used the computation of challenge-response pairs. To get the hashes
directly you break into the authentication server on the network--typically
the domain controller.

2. Yes, it uses Kerberos. Remember, though, that Kerberos uses NT hashes.
See #1 above.

3. Don't get your hashes stolen. Configure your systems not to generate
LanMan (LM) challenge-response pairs. Abandon "complex" passwords in favor
of long passphrases. See Jesper's article at
http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2005/10/13/410470.aspx for
more details, and his presentation at
http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/4/a/f4a67fc8-c499-461d-a025-8...fb4f7a0

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"guru2003" <guru2003 DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> we are having windows 2000 domain controller. clients are windows xp
> professional.
>
> our auditor used cain and abel and sniffed the login traffic. He said he
> got
> the NTLM Hash. Using some password cracker , since password was simple he
> cracked it too.
>
> I have a few questions
>
> First, is this possible?
>
> Second, When I login from windows xp professional to windows 2000 DC , are
> we not using kerberos? Can kerberos login traffic be sniffed and
> password-hash extracted.?
>
> Third , Apart from using long and complex passwords any other mechanism to
> safeguard against this?
>
>
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