"compact folder" crash

randy · External Since: Sep 22, 2009 Posts: 5

greetings!
using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted items)
crashes outlook...

suggestions?

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Bruce Hagen · External Since: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 12678

Define "crash". Are there any messages in Deleted Items you need? (There
shouldn't be).
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MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"randy" <upisj DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
news:OjMWHI%23OKHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> greetings!
> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted items)
> crashes outlook...
>
> suggestions?
>
> --
> ---
>
>

PA Bear [MS MVP] · External Since: Jan 08, 2009 Posts: 206

Suggestions? Sure!

From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000

You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and Windows!
Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!

HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
(after a clean install)
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5a...ed33e12

Also see...

5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com

randy wrote:
> greetings!
> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted items)
> crashes outlook...
>
> suggestions?

randy · External Since: Sep 22, 2009 Posts: 5

hmmm - curious - deleted a subfolder located in "deleted items" and it works
fine now. nevermind!
cant replicate the msg to tell you anymore.

pa bear - yup i know its an oldie - win 98 and been running over 10 year
w/no probs. (scsi drives rarely die)
it suits the application at this location just fine!
but gettin kinda old in the tooth - some websites are beginning to complain.
will need to change soon...

Smile

thanks!

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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoS#Hu#OKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Suggestions? Sure!
>
> From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
>
> You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and Windows!
> Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
>
> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
> (after a clean install)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed3
3e121c
>
> Also see...
>
> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> www.banthecheck.com
>
> randy wrote:
> > greetings!
> > using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted items)
> > crashes outlook...
> >
> > suggestions?
>

John Van Kirk · External Since: Sep 23, 2009 Posts: 1

Robear,
Impressive response.
Somewhat off topic, but how are you fellows able to see the email headers in
the discussion group communications? I access them frequently in OE, but
don't see access to that info thru the discussion group format. Do you have
special software you use as OE experts to help in the discussions, or is
there a function to check to see all the header info?
Thanks,
--
John E. Van Kirk

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Suggestions? Sure!
>
> From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
>
> You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and Windows!
> Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
>
> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
> (after a clean install)
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5a...ed33e12
>
> Also see...
>
> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> www.banthecheck.com
>
> randy wrote:
> > greetings!
> > using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted items)
> > crashes outlook...
> >
> > suggestions?
>
>

randy · External Since: Sep 22, 2009 Posts: 5

use "file, properties, details" and boom there it is

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"John Van Kirk" <JohnVanKirk.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message
news:E400FB98-0E06-47A5-80C1-DC884C41B984@microsoft.com...
> Robear,
> Impressive response.
> Somewhat off topic, but how are you fellows able to see the email headers
in
> the discussion group communications? I access them frequently in OE, but
> don't see access to that info thru the discussion group format. Do you
have
> special software you use as OE experts to help in the discussions, or is
> there a function to check to see all the header info?
> Thanks,
> --
> John E. Van Kirk
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Suggestions? Sure!
> >
> > From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> >
> > You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and
Windows!
> > Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
> >
> > HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully
patched
> > (after a clean install)
> >
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed3
3e121c
> >
> > Also see...
> >
> > 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
> >
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> > www.banthecheck.com
> >
> > randy wrote:
> > > greetings!
> > > using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted
items)
> > > crashes outlook...
> > >
> > > suggestions?
> >
> >

PA Bear [MS MVP] · External Since: Jan 08, 2009 Posts: 206

Even if it is a Win98 box running IE6 (not IE6 SP1), it's still not safe to
use online until you get it fully patched!

randy wrote:
> hmmm - curious - deleted a subfolder located in "deleted items" and it
> works
> fine now. nevermind!
> cant replicate the msg to tell you anymore.
>
> pa bear - yup i know its an oldie - win 98 and been running over 10 year
> w/no probs. (scsi drives rarely die)
> it suits the application at this location just fine!
> but gettin kinda old in the tooth - some websites are beginning to
> complain.
> will need to change soon...
>
> Smile

> thanks!
>
>> Suggestions? Sure!
>>
>> From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
>>
>> You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and
>> Windows!
>> Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
>>
>> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
>> (after a clean install)
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed3
> 3e121c
>>
>> Also see...
>>
>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> www.banthecheck.com
>>
>> randy wrote:
>>> greetings!
>>> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted items)
>>> crashes outlook...
>>>
>>> suggestions?

randy · External Since: Sep 22, 2009 Posts: 5

is sp1 still available at microsoft downloads?

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San Jose, CA 95133
408.254.8401
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OaAvKKKPKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Even if it is a Win98 box running IE6 (not IE6 SP1), it's still not safe
to
> use online until you get it fully patched!
>
>
> randy wrote:
> > hmmm - curious - deleted a subfolder located in "deleted items" and it
> > works
> > fine now. nevermind!
> > cant replicate the msg to tell you anymore.
> >
> > pa bear - yup i know its an oldie - win 98 and been running over 10 year
> > w/no probs. (scsi drives rarely die)
> > it suits the application at this location just fine!
> > but gettin kinda old in the tooth - some websites are beginning to
> > complain.
> > will need to change soon...
> >
> > Smile

> > thanks!
> >
> >> Suggestions? Sure!
> >>
> >> From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> >>
> >> You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and
> >> Windows!
> >> Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
> >>
> >> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully
patched
> >> (after a clean install)
> >>
> >
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed3
> > 3e121c
> >>
> >> Also see...
> >>
> >> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
> >>
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >> www.banthecheck.com
> >>
> >> randy wrote:
> >>> greetings!
> >>> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted
items)
> >>> crashes outlook...
> >>>
> >>> suggestions?
>

randy · External Since: Sep 22, 2009 Posts: 5

wait - the "about" box says this is ie6 sp1.
what updates are you specifically mentioning??

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San Jose, CA 95133
408.254.8401
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www.SiliconValleyPrinter.com
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"Adobe Authorized Service Provider"
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OaAvKKKPKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Even if it is a Win98 box running IE6 (not IE6 SP1), it's still not safe
to
> use online until you get it fully patched!
>
>
> randy wrote:
> > hmmm - curious - deleted a subfolder located in "deleted items" and it
> > works
> > fine now. nevermind!
> > cant replicate the msg to tell you anymore.
> >
> > pa bear - yup i know its an oldie - win 98 and been running over 10 year
> > w/no probs. (scsi drives rarely die)
> > it suits the application at this location just fine!
> > but gettin kinda old in the tooth - some websites are beginning to
> > complain.
> > will need to change soon...
> >
> > Smile

> > thanks!
> >
> >> Suggestions? Sure!
> >>
> >> From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> >>
> >> You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and
> >> Windows!
> >> Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
> >>
> >> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully
patched
> >> (after a clean install)
> >>
> >
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed3
> > 3e121c
> >>
> >> Also see...
> >>
> >> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
> >>
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >> www.banthecheck.com
> >>
> >> randy wrote:
> >>> greetings!
> >>> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted
items)
> >>> crashes outlook...
> >>>
> >>> suggestions?
>

PA Bear [MS MVP] · External Since: Jan 08, 2009 Posts: 206

You'd have to access the post in a newsreader (e.g., OE). The Properties of
the post tell the story. Here's the headers from one of the OP's posts:

==================
From: "randy" <upisj DeleteThis @att.net>
References: <OjMWHI#OKHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
<uoS#Hu#OKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
Subject: Re: "compact folder" crash
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:41:25 -0700
Lines: 49
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
Message-ID: <upHbyzHPKHA.4172 DeleteThis @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
NNTP-Posting-Host: h-68-164-93-43.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net 68.164.93.43
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress:367741
===================

Not only do the headers reveal his OE version (not MSIMN.EXE but two related
OE files), they also reveal what might be his real email address and his
posting IP [1]...which the BadGuys can "harvest" and use for nefarious
purposes.

=============
[1] http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/68.164.93.43

John Van Kirk wrote:
> Robear,
> Impressive response.
> Somewhat off topic, but how are you fellows able to see the email headers
> in
> the discussion group communications? I access them frequently in OE, but
> don't see access to that info thru the discussion group format. Do you
> have
> special software you use as OE experts to help in the discussions, or is
> there a function to check to see all the header info?
> Thanks,
>
>> Suggestions? Sure!
>>
>> From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
>>
>> You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and
>> Windows!
>> Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
>>
>> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully patched
>> (after a clean install)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5a...ed33e12
>>
>> Also see...
>>
>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> www.banthecheck.com
>>
>> randy wrote:
>>> greetings!
>>> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted items)
>>> crashes outlook...
>>>
>>> suggestions?

PA Bear [MS MVP] · External Since: Jan 08, 2009 Posts: 206

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyI...e1550cb

randy wrote:
> is sp1 still available at microsoft downloads?
>
>> Even if it is a Win98 box running IE6 (not IE6 SP1), it's still not safe
>> to
>> use online until you get it fully patched!
>>
>>
>> randy wrote:
>>> hmmm - curious - deleted a subfolder located in "deleted items" and it
>>> works
>>> fine now. nevermind!
>>> cant replicate the msg to tell you anymore.
>>>
>>> pa bear - yup i know its an oldie - win 98 and been running over 10 year
>>> w/no probs. (scsi drives rarely die)
>>> it suits the application at this location just fine!
>>> but gettin kinda old in the tooth - some websites are beginning to
>>> complain.
>>> will need to change soon...
>>>
>>> Smile

>>> thanks!
>>>
>>>> Suggestions? Sure!
>>>>
>>>> From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
>>>>
>>>> You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and
>>>> Windows!
>>>> Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
>>>>
>>>> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully
>>>> patched
>>>> (after a clean install)
>>>>
>>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed3
>>> 3e121c
>>>>
>>>> Also see...
>>>>
>>>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> www.banthecheck.com
>>>>
>>>> randy wrote:
>>>>> greetings!
>>>>> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted
>>>>> items)
>>>>> crashes outlook...
>>>>>
>>>>> suggestions?

N. Miller · External Since: Jul 31, 2006 Posts: 820

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:20:01 -0700, John Van Kirk wrote:

> Impressive response.
> Somewhat off topic, but how are you fellows able to see the email headers in
> the discussion group communications? I access them frequently in OE, but
> don't see access to that info thru the discussion group format. Do you have
> special software you use as OE experts to help in the discussions, or is
> there a function to check to see all the header info?

It is not possible, that I can see, to get at the posting properties of an
article from the web client (Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000). I've never
found a way. One of the reasons I prefer a proper NNTP client (I am using
one called, "40tude Dialog"; but MS Outlook Express will server, as long as
you understand its limitations, which are legion).

PA Bear usually posts using MS Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843, which will
display posting headers.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

PA Bear [MS MVP] · External Since: Jan 08, 2009 Posts: 206

What updates are offered at http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com?

randy wrote:
> wait - the "about" box says this is ie6 sp1.
> what updates are you specifically mentioning??
>
>> Even if it is a Win98 box running IE6 (not IE6 SP1), it's still not safe
>> to
>> use online until you get it fully patched!
>>
>>
>> randy wrote:
>>> hmmm - curious - deleted a subfolder located in "deleted items" and it
>>> works
>>> fine now. nevermind!
>>> cant replicate the msg to tell you anymore.
>>>
>>> pa bear - yup i know its an oldie - win 98 and been running over 10 year
>>> w/no probs. (scsi drives rarely die)
>>> it suits the application at this location just fine!
>>> but gettin kinda old in the tooth - some websites are beginning to
>>> complain.
>>> will need to change soon...
>>>
>>> Smile

>>> thanks!
>>>
>>>> Suggestions? Sure!
>>>>
>>>> From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
>>>>
>>>> You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and
>>>> Windows!
>>>> Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
>>>>
>>>> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully
>>>> patched
>>>> (after a clean install)
>>>>
>>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed3
>>> 3e121c
>>>>
>>>> Also see...
>>>>
>>>> 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>> www.banthecheck.com
>>>>
>>>> randy wrote:
>>>>> greetings!
>>>>> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted
>>>>> items)
>>>>> crashes outlook...
>>>>>
>>>>> suggestions?

Steve Cochran · External Since: Oct 18, 2003 Posts: 5296

CTRL-F3 is your friend. <G> Or you can get OETool
(www.oehelp.com/OETool/) and just push the button to show the source.

steve

"randy" <upisj.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote in message
news:OoFpifKPKHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> use "file, properties, details" and boom there it is
>
> --
> ---
> United Printing, Inc.
> San Jose, CA 95133
> 408.254.8401
> fx: 408.254.8403
> www.SiliconValleyPrinter.com
> e-mail: info.TakeThisOut@SiliconValleyPrinter.com
> "Adobe Authorized Service Provider"
> "John Van Kirk" <JohnVanKirk.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message
> news:E400FB98-0E06-47A5-80C1-DC884C41B984@microsoft.com...
>> Robear,
>> Impressive response.
>> Somewhat off topic, but how are you fellows able to see the email headers
> in
>> the discussion group communications? I access them frequently in OE, but
>> don't see access to that info thru the discussion group format. Do you
> have
>> special software you use as OE experts to help in the discussions, or is
>> there a function to check to see all the header info?
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> John E. Van Kirk
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>> > Suggestions? Sure!
>> >
>> > From your headers: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
>> >
>> > You're running outdated and VERY unsecure versions of OE, IE, and
> Windows!
>> > Get that computer fully patched before worrying about Outlook Express!
>> >
>> > HOW TO get a computer running WinXP Gold (no Service Packs) fully
> patched
>> > (after a clean install)
>> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/msg/3f5afa8ed3
> 3e121c
>> >
>> > Also see...
>> >
>> > 5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
>> >
>> > --
>> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> > www.banthecheck.com
>> >
>> > randy wrote:
>> > > greetings!
>> > > using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted
> items)
>> > > crashes outlook...
>> > >
>> > > suggestions?
>> >
>> >
>
>

o;; · External Since: Sep 27, 2009 Posts: 13

"randy" <upisj DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
news:OjMWHI%23OKHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> greetings!
> using outlook express 6, compacting a particular folder (deleted items)
> crashes outlook...
>
> suggestions?
>
> --
> ---
>
>