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Jo Ann
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Sun Java Update 7
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Sun Java has released update 7.

Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that version have to be removed first?
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?

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Sun Java has released update 7.

Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that
version have to be removed first?
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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1. Uninstall all Sun Java JRE runtimes you find in Add/Remove Programs.

2. Delete C:\Program Files\Java <= this folder. Do NOT delete C:\Program
Files\JavaVM <= this folder, if found.

3. Right-click on the link to download v1.5.0_7 > Save the download to your
desktop > Close all browser windows > Install.
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Jo Ann wrote:
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that
> version have to be removed first?
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jo Ann wrote:
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
> that version have to be removed first?

Peter wrote:
> I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?

Agreed.
I am curious as I cannot find "Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update
7" anywhere.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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From: "Peter" <peter.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com>

| I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?
|

It is available but... the download server is "down" for scheduled maintenance.

http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailI...re-1.5.

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jo Ann wrote:
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
> that version have to be removed first?

Peter wrote:
> I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?

David H. Lipman wrote:
> It is available but... the download server is "down" for scheduled
> maintenance.
>
> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailI...re-1.5.
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

Thanks David!

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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That would explain why I only see the version I already have.. JRE
1.5.0_06-b05

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> From: "Peter" <peter DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com>
>
> | I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?
> |
>
> It is available but... the download server is "down" for scheduled
> maintenance.
>
> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailI...re-1.5.
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
>
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jo Ann" <jojo.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:%23BNtd9FgGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Sun Java has released update 7.

Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that version have to be removed first?


I would appreciate an answer to my question - as listed above. Here are the details regarding update 7.

Sun Java - Update 7

Release Notes:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html

Installation Instructions:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jre/install-windows.html

Download J2SE Runtime Envireonment (JRE)
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
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Shenan Stanley
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jo Ann wrote:
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
> that version have to be removed first?
>
> I would appreciate an answer to my question - as listed above. Here
> are the details regarding update 7.
>
> Sun Java - Update 7
>
> Release Notes:
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html
>
> Installation Instructions:
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jre/install-windows.html
>
> Download J2SE Runtime Envireonment (JRE)
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

Unless Sun has gone insane - it will update just like all the previous ones
and will update your current version happily.

However - since Sun's download page is down for maintenance:
"Notice: We're Offline for System Upgrades"

It is difficult to confirm.

Make a system restore point, install the update, test it. Works - report
back and let us know - since the rest of us have to wait for the download to
become available.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jo Ann wrote:
>> Sun Java has released update 7.
>>
>> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
>> that version have to be removed first?
>>
>> I would appreciate an answer to my question - as listed above. Here
>> are the details regarding update 7.
>>
>> Sun Java - Update 7
>>
>> Release Notes:
>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html
>>
>> Installation Instructions:
>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jre/install-windows.html
>>
>> Download J2SE Runtime Envireonment (JRE)
>> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
>
> Unless Sun has gone insane - it will update just like all the previous
> ones and will update your current version happily.
>
> However - since Sun's download page is down for maintenance:
> "Notice: We're Offline for System Upgrades"
>
> It is difficult to confirm.
>
> Make a system restore point, install the update, test it. Works - report
> back and let us know - since the rest of us have to wait for the download
> to become available.
>
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>

"Update" is a relative term. All the Sun Java "updates" I have installed
left the old version on the disk. It had to be removed using Add/Remove
programs. Not much of an "update" if you ask me. But, typical of Sun - Ah,
I remember those days supporting Solaris, and SunOS before that. Typical.
You'd think they would have learned something about user friendliness after
all these years Smile LOL.

-Frank
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser Leythos <void.RemoveThis@nowhere.lan> wrote:
> In article <OJ1XueGgGHA.4976.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, newshelper.RemoveThis@gmail.com
> says...
> > Unless Sun has gone insane - it will update just like all the previous ones
> > and will update your current version happily.

> I've seen a number of instances where the older version are left in
> place and the newer ones install beside them, not replacing them.

Same here. I routinely uninstall the older version before installing the
newer one.

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Peter
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Odd that their normal download page is still at version 6..?

http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp

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> From: "Peter" <peter.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com>
>
> | I believe so but where are you seeing update 7?
> |
>
> It is available but... the download server is "down" for scheduled
> maintenance.
>
> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailI...re-1.5.
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
>
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>
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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PA Bear, appreciate your post regarding Java updates, but I need some
additional help. In my installed program list in Control Panel, I have three
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Updates, 2,4 and 6. Also, I have two Java 2
Runtime Environments, SE v1.42_03 and _06. Am I to remove all of these, just
the three J2SE entries, or just the Java 2 Runtime Environment entries?
TIA
Larry

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> 1. Uninstall all Sun Java JRE runtimes you find in Add/Remove Programs.
>
> 2. Delete C:\Program Files\Java <= this folder. Do NOT delete C:\Program
> Files\JavaVM <= this folder, if found.
>
> 3. Right-click on the link to download v1.5.0_7 > Save the download to
> your desktop > Close all browser windows > Install.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
>
>
> Jo Ann wrote:
>> Sun Java has released update 7.
>>
>> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that
>> version have to be removed first?
>
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have java 1.5.0_06-b05. When I open the java control panel and try to
update, I get the message that I have the latest version of java. Do I have
to go to the jave site to update?

David

"Jo Ann" <jojo RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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Sun Java has released update 7.

Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that
version have to be removed first?
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I would be surprised to learn that Sun did not include that information on
their website.

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"Jo Ann" <jojo.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Sun Java has released update 7.

Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that
version have to be removed first?
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Sun says to *not* remove previous versions:
http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/5000070400.xml

Tom
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|I would be surprised to learn that Sun did not include that information on
| their website.
|
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| "Backup is a computer user's best friend."
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| "Jo Ann" <jojo.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
| news:%23BNtd9FgGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Sun Java has released update 7.
|
| Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that
| version have to be removed first?
|
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|
|
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Ted Zieglar" <teddy.z.DeleteThis@notmail.com> wrote in message
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>I would be surprised to learn that Sun did not include that information on
> their website.
>
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> "Backup is a computer user's best friend."
>
> "Jo Ann" <jojo.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23BNtd9FgGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that
> version have to be removed first?
>
>
>
>

Doens't matter.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jo Ann wrote:
> Sun Java has released update 7.
>
> Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does
> that version have to be removed first?

Ted Zieglar wrote:
> I would be surprised to learn that Sun did not include that
> information on their website.

Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> Sun says to *not* remove previous versions:
> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/5000070400.xml

Well, they actually recommend you keep the older version..

They do not state that "You should not remove it" <- only that "It is
recommended that you keep older versions of the JRE on your system."

They even state:

"If you are running low on disk space, you can uninstall older versions of
the JRE. To remove older versions of JRE, go to Windows Java Runtime
Environment uninstallation instructions page. <
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010800.xml >"

On the page you gave.

After all - there are many people who start with a clean system and have
only the last version - because that is what they downloaded.

As it seems the installer is smart enough to "update" previous versions -
but not to remove the entries in the Add/Remove programs control panel.

However - I usually do not remove the older version - only install the
latest.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Sun Java Update 7 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I would be surprised to learn that Sun did not include that information on
their website.

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"Jo Ann" <jojo.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Sun Java has released update 7.

Can that update be installed on top of the old version 6, or does that
version have to be removed first?
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