Slow computer

Dean20 · External Since: Aug 13, 2004 Posts: 26

Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is edit a small
EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial up) daily and
use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more, and the slowness
of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently has 128MB of
RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though they say even
32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I close
everything down except explorer (he doesn’t have systray), I can get it down
to only about 80%.

I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough scandisk and
disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to websites or
download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses (took 3 hrs to
do a virus scan) and minimal spam.

I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory hogs but
should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything except
explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything else that
could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even if I close
everything down, is even 80% low enough?

I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not notice the
difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a minimal startup
configuration, right?

What else could be the problem?

Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup, though it seems
like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an appreciable
difference.

Thanks much!

Noel Paton · External Since: Oct 12, 2005 Posts: 1781

It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along the way -
check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK) Startup list to
see what's loaded.
post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions on how to
clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs loading
(enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search box on the
page, and click Search)
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

for detailed instructions - look here
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

HTH
--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Dean" <Dean DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
> Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is edit a small
> EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial up) daily
> and
> use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more, and the
> slowness
> of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently has 128MB of
> RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though they say even
> 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I close
> everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I can get it
> down
> to only about 80%.
>
> I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough scandisk and
> disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to websites or
> download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses (took 3 hrs
> to
> do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
>
> I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory hogs but
> should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything except
> explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything else that
> could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even if I close
> everything down, is even 80% low enough?
>
> I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not notice the
> difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a minimal startup
> configuration, right?
>
> What else could be the problem?
>
> Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup, though it
> seems
> like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an appreciable
> difference.
>
> Thanks much!

Dean20 · External Since: Aug 13, 2004 Posts: 26

The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including AOLACSDaemon),
various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and ccWasher, Dit,
DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image Monitor. Webshots,
and Microsoft Office Sartup.

My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too low. I
think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed out.
Didn't that already indicate a problem?

Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost three hours
(and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem to be
imporving!

Dean

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along the way -
> check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK) Startup list to
> see what's loaded.
> post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions on how to
> clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs loading
> (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search box on the
> page, and click Search)
> http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
>
> for detailed instructions - look here
> http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
>
> HTH
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "Dean" <Dean.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
> > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is edit a small
> > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial up) daily
> > and
> > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more, and the
> > slowness
> > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently has 128MB of
> > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though they say even
> > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I close
> > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I can get it
> > down
> > to only about 80%.
> >
> > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough scandisk and
> > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to websites or
> > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses (took 3 hrs
> > to
> > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
> >
> > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory hogs but
> > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything except
> > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything else that
> > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even if I close
> > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
> >
> > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not notice the
> > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a minimal startup
> > configuration, right?
> >
> > What else could be the problem?
> >
> > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup, though it
> > seems
> > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an appreciable
> > difference.
> >
> > Thanks much!
>
>
>

Dean20 · External Since: Aug 13, 2004 Posts: 26

Also someone suggested I run free software called "process explorer" and I
did and the only big number in the CPU column was for system idle, which was
94. WAOL was 4 (AOL was the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at
startup) and procexp.exe was about 1 or 2. Does this mean that my system is
being tied up with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
My system resources available is 56%.

Thanks!

"Dean" wrote:

> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including AOLACSDaemon),
> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and ccWasher, Dit,
> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image Monitor. Webshots,
> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
>
> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too low. I
> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed out.
> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
>
> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost three hours
> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem to be
> imporving!
>
> Dean
>
> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>
> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along the way -
> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK) Startup list to
> > see what's loaded.
> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions on how to
> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs loading
> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search box on the
> > page, and click Search)
> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
> >
> > for detailed instructions - look here
> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
> >
> > HTH
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> > "Dean" <Dean.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is edit a small
> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial up) daily
> > > and
> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more, and the
> > > slowness
> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently has 128MB of
> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though they say even
> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I close
> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I can get it
> > > down
> > > to only about 80%.
> > >
> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough scandisk and
> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to websites or
> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses (took 3 hrs
> > > to
> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
> > >
> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory hogs but
> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything except
> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything else that
> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even if I close
> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
> > >
> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not notice the
> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a minimal startup
> > > configuration, right?
> > >
> > > What else could be the problem?
> > >
> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup, though it
> > > seems
> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an appreciable
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > Thanks much!
> >
> >
> >

Dean20 · External Since: Aug 13, 2004 Posts: 26

Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only big number
in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4 (AOL was
the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and procexp.exe
was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being tied up
with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?

Thanks again!
Dean

"Dean" wrote:

> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including AOLACSDaemon),
> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and ccWasher, Dit,
> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image Monitor. Webshots,
> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
>
> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too low. I
> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed out.
> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
>
> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost three hours
> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem to be
> imporving!
>
> Dean
>
> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>
> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along the way -
> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK) Startup list to
> > see what's loaded.
> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions on how to
> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs loading
> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search box on the
> > page, and click Search)
> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
> >
> > for detailed instructions - look here
> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
> >
> > HTH
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> > "Dean" <Dean RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is edit a small
> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial up) daily
> > > and
> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more, and the
> > > slowness
> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently has 128MB of
> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though they say even
> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I close
> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I can get it
> > > down
> > > to only about 80%.
> > >
> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough scandisk and
> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to websites or
> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses (took 3 hrs
> > > to
> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
> > >
> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory hogs but
> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything except
> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything else that
> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even if I close
> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
> > >
> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not notice the
> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a minimal startup
> > > configuration, right?
> > >
> > > What else could be the problem?
> > >
> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup, though it
> > > seems
> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an appreciable
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > Thanks much!
> >
> >
> >

Noel Paton · External Since: Oct 12, 2005 Posts: 1781

You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU power and
the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many pints of
ale<g>)

Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY related
to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup axis!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Dean" <Dean.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
> Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only big
> number
> in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4 (AOL was
> the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
> procexp.exe
> was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being tied up
> with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
>
> Thanks again!
> Dean
>
>
> "Dean" wrote:
>
>> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
>> AOLACSDaemon),
>> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and ccWasher,
>> Dit,
>> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image Monitor.
>> Webshots,
>> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
>>
>> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too low. I
>> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed out.
>> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
>>
>> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost three
>> hours
>> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem to be
>> imporving!
>>
>> Dean
>>
>> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>>
>> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along the
>> > way -
>> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK) Startup
>> > list to
>> > see what's loaded.
>> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions on how
>> > to
>> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs loading
>> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search box on
>> > the
>> > page, and click Search)
>> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
>> >
>> > for detailed instructions - look here
>> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
>> >
>> > HTH
>> > --
>> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>> >
>> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>> >
>> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>> > NG's
>> > "Dean" <Dean.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
>> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is edit a
>> > > small
>> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial up)
>> > > daily
>> > > and
>> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more, and the
>> > > slowness
>> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently has
>> > > 128MB of
>> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though they say
>> > > even
>> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I close
>> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I can get
>> > > it
>> > > down
>> > > to only about 80%.
>> > >
>> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough scandisk
>> > > and
>> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to websites or
>> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses (took 3
>> > > hrs
>> > > to
>> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
>> > >
>> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory hogs
>> > > but
>> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything
>> > > except
>> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything else
>> > > that
>> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even if I
>> > > close
>> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
>> > >
>> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not notice
>> > > the
>> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a minimal
>> > > startup
>> > > configuration, right?
>> > >
>> > > What else could be the problem?
>> > >
>> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup, though it
>> > > seems
>> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an appreciable
>> > > difference.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks much!
>> >
>> >
>> >

KB · External Since: May 27, 2005 Posts: 80

Hey, Noel. Long time no e.

Guilty as charged here Wink

working to help the OP in another forum. You're
exactly correct, again. Then again, it's worth looking at process explorer
(as well as the startup axis and swapfile usage for memory purposes) to see
if there's a CPU hog lurking in the background slowing the system.

Whatta ya think of AOL 9.0 on a WinME system? Would you revert back to an
older version?

And, thanks for your help once again, way back when, and the lesson's
learned.

Happy Holidaze, Noel.

KB
"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.DeleteThis@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
news:OE3JwAmCGHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
> explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU power
and
> the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many pints of
> ale<g>)
>
> Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY
related
> to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup axis!
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "Dean" <Dean.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
> > Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only big
> > number
> > in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4 (AOL
was
> > the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
> > procexp.exe
> > was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being tied
up
> > with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > Dean
> >
> >
> > "Dean" wrote:
> >
> >> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
> >> AOLACSDaemon),
> >> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and ccWasher,
> >> Dit,
> >> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image Monitor.
> >> Webshots,
> >> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
> >>
> >> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too low. I
> >> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed out.
> >> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost three
> >> hours
> >> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem to
be
> >> imporving!
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >>
> >> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along the
> >> > way -
> >> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK) Startup
> >> > list to
> >> > see what's loaded.
> >> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions on
how
> >> > to
> >> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs loading
> >> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search box
on
> >> > the
> >> > page, and click Search)
> >> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
> >> >
> >> > for detailed instructions - look here
> >> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
> >> >
> >> > HTH
> >> > --
> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >> >
> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >> >
> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> >> > NG's
> >> > "Dean" <Dean.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
> >> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is edit a
> >> > > small
> >> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial up)
> >> > > daily
> >> > > and
> >> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more, and
the
> >> > > slowness
> >> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently has
> >> > > 128MB of
> >> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though they
say
> >> > > even
> >> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I close
> >> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I can
get
> >> > > it
> >> > > down
> >> > > to only about 80%.
> >> > >
> >> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough
scandisk
> >> > > and
> >> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to websites
or
> >> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses (took
3
> >> > > hrs
> >> > > to
> >> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
> >> > >
> >> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory
hogs
> >> > > but
> >> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything
> >> > > except
> >> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything
else
> >> > > that
> >> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even if
I
> >> > > close
> >> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
> >> > >
> >> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not notice
> >> > > the
> >> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a minimal
> >> > > startup
> >> > > configuration, right?
> >> > >
> >> > > What else could be the problem?
> >> > >
> >> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup, though
it
> >> > > seems
> >> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an appreciable
> >> > > difference.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks much!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>

Heather · External Since: Sep 13, 2005 Posts: 424

Hi KB.....he is probably fast asleep, preparing for a wild New Year's
Eve. But if memory serves me right, AOL 9 is NOT recommended for WinME.
But he will be up and about soon and can tell you.

Cheers....Heather

"KB" <KB.TakeThisOut@discussions.winme> wrote in message
news:u9dTpfDDGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hey, Noel. Long time no e.
>
> Guilty as charged here Wink

working to help the OP in another forum.
> You're
> exactly correct, again. Then again, it's worth looking at process
> explorer
> (as well as the startup axis and swapfile usage for memory purposes)
> to see
> if there's a CPU hog lurking in the background slowing the system.
>
> Whatta ya think of AOL 9.0 on a WinME system? Would you revert back
> to an
> older version?
>
> And, thanks for your help once again, way back when, and the lesson's
> learned.
>
> Happy Holidaze, Noel.
>
> KB
> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.TakeThisOut@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
> news:OE3JwAmCGHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
>> explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU
>> power
> and
>> the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many
>> pints of
>> ale<g>)
>>
>> Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY
> related
>> to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup
>> axis!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>> NG's
>> "Dean" <Dean.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
>> > Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only
>> > big
>> > number
>> > in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4
>> > (AOL
> was
>> > the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
>> > procexp.exe
>> > was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being
>> > tied
> up
>> > with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
>> >
>> > Thanks again!
>> > Dean
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dean" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
>> >> AOLACSDaemon),
>> >> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and
>> >> ccWasher,
>> >> Dit,
>> >> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image
>> >> Monitor.
>> >> Webshots,
>> >> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
>> >>
>> >> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too
>> >> low. I
>> >> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed
>> >> out.
>> >> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost
>> >> three
>> >> hours
>> >> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem
>> >> to
> be
>> >> imporving!
>> >>
>> >> Dean
>> >>
>> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along
>> >> > the
>> >> > way -
>> >> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK)
>> >> > Startup
>> >> > list to
>> >> > see what's loaded.
>> >> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions
>> >> > on
> how
>> >> > to
>> >> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs
>> >> > loading
>> >> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search
>> >> > box
> on
>> >> > the
>> >> > page, and click Search)
>> >> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
>> >> >
>> >> > for detailed instructions - look here
>> >> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
>> >> >
>> >> > HTH
>> >> > --
>> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>> >> >
>> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> >> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>> >> >
>> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
>> >> > messages to
>> >> > NG's
>> >> > "Dean" <Dean.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is
>> >> > > edit a
>> >> > > small
>> >> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL
>> >> > > (dial up)
>> >> > > daily
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more,
>> >> > > and
> the
>> >> > > slowness
>> >> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently
>> >> > > has
>> >> > > 128MB of
>> >> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though
>> >> > > they
> say
>> >> > > even
>> >> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I
>> >> > > close
>> >> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I
>> >> > > can
> get
>> >> > > it
>> >> > > down
>> >> > > to only about 80%.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough
> scandisk
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to
>> >> > > websites
> or
>> >> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses
>> >> > > (took
> 3
>> >> > > hrs
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be
>> >> > > memory
> hogs
>> >> > > but
>> >> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with
>> >> > > everything
>> >> > > except
>> >> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there
>> >> > > anything
> else
>> >> > > that
>> >> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough?
>> >> > > Even if
> I
>> >> > > close
>> >> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not
>> >> > > notice
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a
>> >> > > minimal
>> >> > > startup
>> >> > > configuration, right?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > What else could be the problem?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup,
>> >> > > though
> it
>> >> > > seems
>> >> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an
>> >> > > appreciable
>> >> > > difference.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks much!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>
>

Noel Paton · External Since: Oct 12, 2005 Posts: 1781

AOL9 works fine on ME (at least here in the UK, on dialup, it does!<g>) It
does mean that you need to have more RAM available, though - I'd recommend a
minimum of 128MB (and check that the size of the Virtual Memory isn't
limited).

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Heather" <figgs RemoveThis @invalid.nospam> wrote in message
news:u$JH2sDDGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hi KB.....he is probably fast asleep, preparing for a wild New Year's Eve.
> But if memory serves me right, AOL 9 is NOT recommended for WinME. But he
> will be up and about soon and can tell you.
>
> Cheers....Heather
>
> "KB" <KB RemoveThis @discussions.winme> wrote in message
> news:u9dTpfDDGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hey, Noel. Long time no e.
>>
>> Guilty as charged here Wink

working to help the OP in another forum. You're
>> exactly correct, again. Then again, it's worth looking at process
>> explorer
>> (as well as the startup axis and swapfile usage for memory purposes) to
>> see
>> if there's a CPU hog lurking in the background slowing the system.
>>
>> Whatta ya think of AOL 9.0 on a WinME system? Would you revert back to
>> an
>> older version?
>>
>> And, thanks for your help once again, way back when, and the lesson's
>> learned.
>>
>> Happy Holidaze, Noel.
>>
>> KB
>> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless RemoveThis @crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
>> news:OE3JwAmCGHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
>>> explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU power
>> and
>>> the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many pints
>>> of
>>> ale<g>)
>>>
>>> Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY
>> related
>>> to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup axis!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>
>>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>
>>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>>> NG's
>>> "Dean" <Dean RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
>>> > Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only big
>>> > number
>>> > in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4 (AOL
>> was
>>> > the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
>>> > procexp.exe
>>> > was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being
>>> > tied
>> up
>>> > with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks again!
>>> > Dean
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Dean" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
>>> >> AOLACSDaemon),
>>> >> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and
>>> >> ccWasher,
>>> >> Dit,
>>> >> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image Monitor.
>>> >> Webshots,
>>> >> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
>>> >>
>>> >> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too low.
>>> >> I
>>> >> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed
>>> >> out.
>>> >> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost three
>>> >> hours
>>> >> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem to
>> be
>>> >> imporving!
>>> >>
>>> >> Dean
>>> >>
>>> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along the
>>> >> > way -
>>> >> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK) Startup
>>> >> > list to
>>> >> > see what's loaded.
>>> >> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions on
>> how
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs loading
>>> >> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search box
>> on
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > page, and click Search)
>>> >> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
>>> >> >
>>> >> > for detailed instructions - look here
>>> >> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
>>> >> >
>>> >> > HTH
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>> >> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > NG's
>>> >> > "Dean" <Dean RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
>>> >> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is edit
>>> >> > > a
>>> >> > > small
>>> >> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial
>>> >> > > up)
>>> >> > > daily
>>> >> > > and
>>> >> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more, and
>> the
>>> >> > > slowness
>>> >> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently has
>>> >> > > 128MB of
>>> >> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though they
>> say
>>> >> > > even
>>> >> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I
>>> >> > > close
>>> >> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I can
>> get
>>> >> > > it
>>> >> > > down
>>> >> > > to only about 80%.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough
>> scandisk
>>> >> > > and
>>> >> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to
>>> >> > > websites
>> or
>>> >> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses
>>> >> > > (took
>> 3
>>> >> > > hrs
>>> >> > > to
>>> >> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory
>> hogs
>>> >> > > but
>>> >> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything
>>> >> > > except
>>> >> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything
>> else
>>> >> > > that
>>> >> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even
>>> >> > > if
>> I
>>> >> > > close
>>> >> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not
>>> >> > > notice
>>> >> > > the
>>> >> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a minimal
>>> >> > > startup
>>> >> > > configuration, right?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > What else could be the problem?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup,
>>> >> > > though
>> it
>>> >> > > seems
>>> >> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an
>>> >> > > appreciable
>>> >> > > difference.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Thanks much!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

KB · External Since: May 27, 2005 Posts: 80

Maybe it's different in the UK. Here in the states it seems to carry a
heavy payload of programs that run at startup:
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\TOPSPEED\2.0\AOLTSMON.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\TOPSPEED\2.0\AOLTPSPD.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\ACS\AOLDIAL.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COOKIE WASHER\AOLWASHER.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\AIM95\AIM.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\AMERICA ONLINE 9.0A\WAOL.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\1109379641\EE\AOLHOSTMANAGER.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\1109379641\EE\AOLSERVICEHOST.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\ACS\AOLACSD.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\AMERICA ONLINE 9.0A\SHELLMON.EXE
Not to mention Viewpoint!

Have a great New Year, Noel. Don't have Tooo much fun <g>.
"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.TakeThisOut@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
news:O8oLBuFDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> AOL9 works fine on ME (at least here in the UK, on dialup, it does!<g>) It
> does mean that you need to have more RAM available, though - I'd recommend
a
> minimum of 128MB (and check that the size of the Virtual Memory isn't
> limited).
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "Heather" <figgs.TakeThisOut@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
> news:u$JH2sDDGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Hi KB.....he is probably fast asleep, preparing for a wild New Year's
Eve.
> > But if memory serves me right, AOL 9 is NOT recommended for WinME. But
he
> > will be up and about soon and can tell you.
> >
> > Cheers....Heather
> >
> > "KB" <KB.TakeThisOut@discussions.winme> wrote in message
> > news:u9dTpfDDGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Hey, Noel. Long time no e.
> >>
> >> Guilty as charged here Wink

working to help the OP in another forum.
You're
> >> exactly correct, again. Then again, it's worth looking at process
> >> explorer
> >> (as well as the startup axis and swapfile usage for memory purposes) to
> >> see
> >> if there's a CPU hog lurking in the background slowing the system.
> >>
> >> Whatta ya think of AOL 9.0 on a WinME system? Would you revert back to
> >> an
> >> older version?
> >>
> >> And, thanks for your help once again, way back when, and the lesson's
> >> learned.
> >>
> >> Happy Holidaze, Noel.
> >>
> >> KB
> >> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.TakeThisOut@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OE3JwAmCGHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >>> You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
> >>> explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU
power
> >> and
> >>> the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many pints
> >>> of
> >>> ale<g>)
> >>>
> >>> Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY
> >> related
> >>> to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup
axis!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >>>
> >>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >>>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >>>
> >>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> >>> NG's
> >>> "Dean" <Dean.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
> >>> > Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only
big
> >>> > number
> >>> > in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4
(AOL
> >> was
> >>> > the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
> >>> > procexp.exe
> >>> > was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being
> >>> > tied
> >> up
> >>> > with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks again!
> >>> > Dean
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "Dean" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
> >>> >> AOLACSDaemon),
> >>> >> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and
> >>> >> ccWasher,
> >>> >> Dit,
> >>> >> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image Monitor.
> >>> >> Webshots,
> >>> >> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too
low.
> >>> >> I
> >>> >> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed
> >>> >> out.
> >>> >> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost
three
> >>> >> hours
> >>> >> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem
to
> >> be
> >>> >> imporving!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Dean
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along
the
> >>> >> > way -
> >>> >> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK)
Startup
> >>> >> > list to
> >>> >> > see what's loaded.
> >>> >> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions
on
> >> how
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs
loading
> >>> >> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search
box
> >> on
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > page, and click Search)
> >>> >> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > for detailed instructions - look here
> >>> >> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > HTH
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >>> >> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > NG's
> >>> >> > "Dean" <Dean.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is
edit
> >>> >> > > a
> >>> >> > > small
> >>> >> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL (dial
> >>> >> > > up)
> >>> >> > > daily
> >>> >> > > and
> >>> >> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more,
and
> >> the
> >>> >> > > slowness
> >>> >> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently
has
> >>> >> > > 128MB of
> >>> >> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though
they
> >> say
> >>> >> > > even
> >>> >> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I
> >>> >> > > close
> >>> >> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I
can
> >> get
> >>> >> > > it
> >>> >> > > down
> >>> >> > > to only about 80%.
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough
> >> scandisk
> >>> >> > > and
> >>> >> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to
> >>> >> > > websites
> >> or
> >>> >> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses
> >>> >> > > (took
> >> 3
> >>> >> > > hrs
> >>> >> > > to
> >>> >> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be memory
> >> hogs
> >>> >> > > but
> >>> >> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with everything
> >>> >> > > except
> >>> >> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there anything
> >> else
> >>> >> > > that
> >>> >> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough? Even
> >>> >> > > if
> >> I
> >>> >> > > close
> >>> >> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not
> >>> >> > > notice
> >>> >> > > the
> >>> >> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a
minimal
> >>> >> > > startup
> >>> >> > > configuration, right?
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > What else could be the problem?
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup,
> >>> >> > > though
> >> it
> >>> >> > > seems
> >>> >> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an
> >>> >> > > appreciable
> >>> >> > > difference.
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > Thanks much!
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

KB · External Since: May 27, 2005 Posts: 80

Thanks for the feedback!

That must be one heck of a party...2 days of preparation <VBG>.

Hope XP is treating you well, Heather. One day I'll step up but ME's
running quite well and the price of the system I want (not need, want <g>)
is still a bit out of reach Sad

.

Happy Holidays to all!!!!

"Heather" <figgs.RemoveThis@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
news:u$JH2sDDGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hi KB.....he is probably fast asleep, preparing for a wild New Year's
> Eve. But if memory serves me right, AOL 9 is NOT recommended for WinME.
> But he will be up and about soon and can tell you.
>
> Cheers....Heather
>
> "KB" <KB.RemoveThis@discussions.winme> wrote in message
> news:u9dTpfDDGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hey, Noel. Long time no e.
> >
> > Guilty as charged here Wink

working to help the OP in another forum.
> > You're
> > exactly correct, again. Then again, it's worth looking at process
> > explorer
> > (as well as the startup axis and swapfile usage for memory purposes)
> > to see
> > if there's a CPU hog lurking in the background slowing the system.
> >
> > Whatta ya think of AOL 9.0 on a WinME system? Would you revert back
> > to an
> > older version?
> >
> > And, thanks for your help once again, way back when, and the lesson's
> > learned.
> >
> > Happy Holidaze, Noel.
> >
> > KB
> > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.RemoveThis@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
> > news:OE3JwAmCGHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
> >> explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU
> >> power
> > and
> >> the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many
> >> pints of
> >> ale<g>)
> >>
> >> Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY
> > related
> >> to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup
> >> axis!
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >>
> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >>
> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> >> NG's
> >> "Dean" <Dean.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
> >> > Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only
> >> > big
> >> > number
> >> > in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4
> >> > (AOL
> > was
> >> > the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
> >> > procexp.exe
> >> > was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being
> >> > tied
> > up
> >> > with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again!
> >> > Dean
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Dean" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
> >> >> AOLACSDaemon),
> >> >> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and
> >> >> ccWasher,
> >> >> Dit,
> >> >> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image
> >> >> Monitor.
> >> >> Webshots,
> >> >> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
> >> >>
> >> >> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too
> >> >> low. I
> >> >> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed
> >> >> out.
> >> >> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost
> >> >> three
> >> >> hours
> >> >> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem
> >> >> to
> > be
> >> >> imporving!
> >> >>
> >> >> Dean
> >> >>
> >> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > way -
> >> >> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK)
> >> >> > Startup
> >> >> > list to
> >> >> > see what's loaded.
> >> >> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions
> >> >> > on
> > how
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs
> >> >> > loading
> >> >> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search
> >> >> > box
> > on
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > page, and click Search)
> >> >> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
> >> >> >
> >> >> > for detailed instructions - look here
> >> >> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
> >> >> >
> >> >> > HTH
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> >> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
> >> >> > messages to
> >> >> > NG's
> >> >> > "Dean" <Dean.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is
> >> >> > > edit a
> >> >> > > small
> >> >> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL
> >> >> > > (dial up)
> >> >> > > daily
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more,
> >> >> > > and
> > the
> >> >> > > slowness
> >> >> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently
> >> >> > > has
> >> >> > > 128MB of
> >> >> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though
> >> >> > > they
> > say
> >> >> > > even
> >> >> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I
> >> >> > > close
> >> >> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I
> >> >> > > can
> > get
> >> >> > > it
> >> >> > > down
> >> >> > > to only about 80%.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough
> > scandisk
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to
> >> >> > > websites
> > or
> >> >> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses
> >> >> > > (took
> > 3
> >> >> > > hrs
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be
> >> >> > > memory
> > hogs
> >> >> > > but
> >> >> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with
> >> >> > > everything
> >> >> > > except
> >> >> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there
> >> >> > > anything
> > else
> >> >> > > that
> >> >> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough?
> >> >> > > Even if
> > I
> >> >> > > close
> >> >> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not
> >> >> > > notice
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a
> >> >> > > minimal
> >> >> > > startup
> >> >> > > configuration, right?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > What else could be the problem?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup,
> >> >> > > though
> > it
> >> >> > > seems
> >> >> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an
> >> >> > > appreciable
> >> >> > > difference.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks much!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

"cquirke · External Since: Mar 06, 2005 Posts: 395

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:06:10 -0000, "Noel Paton"

>You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
>explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU power and
>the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many pints of
>ale<g>)

Which means if the PC is slow while idle is 90% or so, it's something
other than CPU that is keeping you waiting - e.g. failing HD retries.

>Note processor usage is in NO WAY related to used resources!!!!

True. If resource heaps run out, PC crashes at full speed, much as it
would with defective RAM. Defective HD causes slowdowns because the
errors are detected and the operation is re-tried, often endlessly.

>---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony
>---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -

Heather · External Since: Sep 13, 2005 Posts: 424

Chuckle!! At his age, Noel NEEDS two days to prepare for New Year's Eve.
(G)

XP is just amazing, and I discovered there seem to be no BSOD's with
it.....so far!! I always thought they were normal (not). Got the old WinME
up and connected via a new router, so can still use it. But boy, it is
slow!!

I thought the same as you re price.....but Willy built this for about $900
Cdn and my old WinME POC cost me $2300. Can't complain about the price.
Find a tech like him and get a new one built. Just have to justify a flat
panel monitor now, lol.

Cheers...Heather

"KB" <KB RemoveThis @discussions.winme> wrote in message
news:uUjICQJDGHA.1124@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> That must be one heck of a party...2 days of preparation <VBG>.
>
> Hope XP is treating you well, Heather. One day I'll step up but ME's
> running quite well and the price of the system I want (not need, want <g>)
> is still a bit out of reach Sad

.
>
> Happy Holidays to all!!!!
>
> "Heather" <figgs RemoveThis @invalid.nospam> wrote in message
> news:u$JH2sDDGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Hi KB.....he is probably fast asleep, preparing for a wild New Year's
>> Eve. But if memory serves me right, AOL 9 is NOT recommended for WinME.
>> But he will be up and about soon and can tell you.
>>
>> Cheers....Heather
>>
>> "KB" <KB RemoveThis @discussions.winme> wrote in message
>> news:u9dTpfDDGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Hey, Noel. Long time no e.
>> >
>> > Guilty as charged here Wink

working to help the OP in another forum.
>> > You're
>> > exactly correct, again. Then again, it's worth looking at process
>> > explorer
>> > (as well as the startup axis and swapfile usage for memory purposes)
>> > to see
>> > if there's a CPU hog lurking in the background slowing the system.
>> >
>> > Whatta ya think of AOL 9.0 on a WinME system? Would you revert back
>> > to an
>> > older version?
>> >
>> > And, thanks for your help once again, way back when, and the lesson's
>> > learned.
>> >
>> > Happy Holidaze, Noel.
>> >
>> > KB
>> > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless RemoveThis @crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:OE3JwAmCGHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
>> >> explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU
>> >> power
>> > and
>> >> the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many
>> >> pints of
>> >> ale<g>)
>> >>
>> >> Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY
>> > related
>> >> to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup
>> >> axis!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>> >>
>> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> >> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>> >>
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>> >>
>> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>> >> NG's
>> >> "Dean" <Dean RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only
>> >> > big
>> >> > number
>> >> > in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4
>> >> > (AOL
>> > was
>> >> > the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
>> >> > procexp.exe
>> >> > was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being
>> >> > tied
>> > up
>> >> > with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks again!
>> >> > Dean
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Dean" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
>> >> >> AOLACSDaemon),
>> >> >> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and
>> >> >> ccWasher,
>> >> >> Dit,
>> >> >> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image
>> >> >> Monitor.
>> >> >> Webshots,
>> >> >> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too
>> >> >> low. I
>> >> >> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed
>> >> >> out.
>> >> >> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost
>> >> >> three
>> >> >> hours
>> >> >> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem
>> >> >> to
>> > be
>> >> >> imporving!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dean
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > way -
>> >> >> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK)
>> >> >> > Startup
>> >> >> > list to
>> >> >> > see what's loaded.
>> >> >> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions
>> >> >> > on
>> > how
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs
>> >> >> > loading
>> >> >> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search
>> >> >> > box
>> > on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > page, and click Search)
>> >> >> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > for detailed instructions - look here
>> >> >> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > HTH
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> >> >> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
>> >> >> > messages to
>> >> >> > NG's
>> >> >> > "Dean" <Dean RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is
>> >> >> > > edit a
>> >> >> > > small
>> >> >> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL
>> >> >> > > (dial up)
>> >> >> > > daily
>> >> >> > > and
>> >> >> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more,
>> >> >> > > and
>> > the
>> >> >> > > slowness
>> >> >> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently
>> >> >> > > has
>> >> >> > > 128MB of
>> >> >> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though
>> >> >> > > they
>> > say
>> >> >> > > even
>> >> >> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I
>> >> >> > > close
>> >> >> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I
>> >> >> > > can
>> > get
>> >> >> > > it
>> >> >> > > down
>> >> >> > > to only about 80%.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough
>> > scandisk
>> >> >> > > and
>> >> >> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to
>> >> >> > > websites
>> > or
>> >> >> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses
>> >> >> > > (took
>> > 3
>> >> >> > > hrs
>> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be
>> >> >> > > memory
>> > hogs
>> >> >> > > but
>> >> >> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with
>> >> >> > > everything
>> >> >> > > except
>> >> >> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there
>> >> >> > > anything
>> > else
>> >> >> > > that
>> >> >> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough?
>> >> >> > > Even if
>> > I
>> >> >> > > close
>> >> >> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not
>> >> >> > > notice
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a
>> >> >> > > minimal
>> >> >> > > startup
>> >> >> > > configuration, right?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > What else could be the problem?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup,
>> >> >> > > though
>> > it
>> >> >> > > seems
>> >> >> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an
>> >> >> > > appreciable
>> >> >> > > difference.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thanks much!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Noel Paton · External Since: Oct 12, 2005 Posts: 1781

Yeah - that's about normal for an ME install of AOL - which is why I said
that it likes more RAM. it doesn't use resources too heavily though, IIRC.
I'll install it on a VPC and do a before/after, later tonight

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"KB" <KB.RemoveThis@discussions.winme> wrote in message
news:egcoNFJDGHA.1028@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Maybe it's different in the UK. Here in the states it seems to carry a
> heavy payload of programs that run at startup:
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\TOPSPEED\2.0\AOLTSMON.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\TOPSPEED\2.0\AOLTPSPD.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\ACS\AOLDIAL.EXE
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COOKIE WASHER\AOLWASHER.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\AIM95\AIM.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\AMERICA ONLINE 9.0A\WAOL.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\1109379641\EE\AOLHOSTMANAGER.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\1109379641\EE\AOLSERVICEHOST.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\ACS\AOLACSD.EXE
> C:\PROGRAM FILES\AMERICA ONLINE 9.0A\SHELLMON.EXE
> Not to mention Viewpoint!
>
> Have a great New Year, Noel. Don't have Tooo much fun <g>.
> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.RemoveThis@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
> news:O8oLBuFDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> AOL9 works fine on ME (at least here in the UK, on dialup, it does!<g>)
>> It
>> does mean that you need to have more RAM available, though - I'd
>> recommend
> a
>> minimum of 128MB (and check that the size of the Virtual Memory isn't
>> limited).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>> "Heather" <figgs.RemoveThis@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:u$JH2sDDGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi KB.....he is probably fast asleep, preparing for a wild New Year's
> Eve.
>> > But if memory serves me right, AOL 9 is NOT recommended for WinME. But
> he
>> > will be up and about soon and can tell you.
>> >
>> > Cheers....Heather
>> >
>> > "KB" <KB.RemoveThis@discussions.winme> wrote in message
>> > news:u9dTpfDDGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hey, Noel. Long time no e.
>> >>
>> >> Guilty as charged here Wink

working to help the OP in another forum.
> You're
>> >> exactly correct, again. Then again, it's worth looking at process
>> >> explorer
>> >> (as well as the startup axis and swapfile usage for memory purposes)
>> >> to
>> >> see
>> >> if there's a CPU hog lurking in the background slowing the system.
>> >>
>> >> Whatta ya think of AOL 9.0 on a WinME system? Would you revert back
>> >> to
>> >> an
>> >> older version?
>> >>
>> >> And, thanks for your help once again, way back when, and the lesson's
>> >> learned.
>> >>
>> >> Happy Holidaze, Noel.
>> >>
>> >> KB
>> >> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.RemoveThis@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:OE3JwAmCGHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >>> You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
>> >>> explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU
> power
>> >> and
>> >>> the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many
>> >>> pints
>> >>> of
>> >>> ale<g>)
>> >>>
>> >>> Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY
>> >> related
>> >>> to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup
> axis!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>> >>>
>> >>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> >>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>> >>>
>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>> >>>
>> >>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>> >>> NG's
>> >>> "Dean" <Dean.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
>> >>> > Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the only
> big
>> >>> > number
>> >>> > in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4
> (AOL
>> >> was
>> >>> > the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
>> >>> > procexp.exe
>> >>> > was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is being
>> >>> > tied
>> >> up
>> >>> > with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks again!
>> >>> > Dean
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "Dean" wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
>> >>> >> AOLACSDaemon),
>> >>> >> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and
>> >>> >> ccWasher,
>> >>> >> Dit,
>> >>> >> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image
>> >>> >> Monitor.
>> >>> >> Webshots,
>> >>> >> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too
> low.
>> >>> >> I
>> >>> >> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer closed
>> >>> >> out.
>> >>> >> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost
> three
>> >>> >> hours
>> >>> >> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does seem
> to
>> >> be
>> >>> >> imporving!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Dean
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties along
> the
>> >>> >> > way -
>> >>> >> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK)
> Startup
>> >>> >> > list to
>> >>> >> > see what's loaded.
>> >>> >> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for instructions
> on
>> >> how
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs
> loading
>> >>> >> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the search
> box
>> >> on
>> >>> >> > the
>> >>> >> > page, and click Search)
>> >>> >> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > for detailed instructions - look here
>> >>> >> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > HTH
>> >>> >> > --
>> >>> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> >>> >> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
>> >>> >> > messages
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > NG's
>> >>> >> > "Dean" <Dean.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
>> >>> >> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is
> edit
>> >>> >> > > a
>> >>> >> > > small
>> >>> >> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL
>> >>> >> > > (dial
>> >>> >> > > up)
>> >>> >> > > daily
>> >>> >> > > and
>> >>> >> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more,
> and
>> >> the
>> >>> >> > > slowness
>> >>> >> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He apparently
> has
>> >>> >> > > 128MB of
>> >>> >> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though
> they
>> >> say
>> >>> >> > > even
>> >>> >> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If I
>> >>> >> > > close
>> >>> >> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I
> can
>> >> get
>> >>> >> > > it
>> >>> >> > > down
>> >>> >> > > to only about 80%.
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough
>> >> scandisk
>> >>> >> > > and
>> >>> >> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to
>> >>> >> > > websites
>> >> or
>> >>> >> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses
>> >>> >> > > (took
>> >> 3
>> >>> >> > > hrs
>> >>> >> > > to
>> >>> >> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be
>> >>> >> > > memory
>> >> hogs
>> >>> >> > > but
>> >>> >> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with
>> >>> >> > > everything
>> >>> >> > > except
>> >>> >> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there
>> >>> >> > > anything
>> >> else
>> >>> >> > > that
>> >>> >> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough?
>> >>> >> > > Even
>> >>> >> > > if
>> >> I
>> >>> >> > > close
>> >>> >> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not
>> >>> >> > > notice
>> >>> >> > > the
>> >>> >> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a
> minimal
>> >>> >> > > startup
>> >>> >> > > configuration, right?
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > > What else could be the problem?
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup,
>> >>> >> > > though
>> >> it
>> >>> >> > > seems
>> >>> >> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an
>> >>> >> > > appreciable
>> >>> >> > > difference.
>> >>> >> > >
>> >>> >> > > Thanks much!
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

KB · External Since: May 27, 2005 Posts: 80

Even with 128MB RAM and Virtual Memory being properly set to let Windows
handle it, the system is still slow. Ran through my 15 point checklist (I
do keep notes Wink

) to set up the ME system properly....just like mine...but
still no joy.

See how it changes simple usage, such as opening My Computer or Windows
Explorer. Does it change from a few seconds to up to a minute?

Thanks again, Noel. And, happy computing!

"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.RemoveThis@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
news:%23hCc7mJDGHA.336@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Yeah - that's about normal for an ME install of AOL - which is why I said
> that it likes more RAM. it doesn't use resources too heavily though, IIRC.
> I'll install it on a VPC and do a before/after, later tonight
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "KB" <KB.RemoveThis@discussions.winme> wrote in message
> news:egcoNFJDGHA.1028@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Maybe it's different in the UK. Here in the states it seems to carry a
> > heavy payload of programs that run at startup:
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\TOPSPEED\2.0\AOLTSMON.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\TOPSPEED\2.0\AOLTPSPD.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\ACS\AOLDIAL.EXE
> > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COOKIE WASHER\AOLWASHER.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\AIM95\AIM.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\AMERICA ONLINE 9.0A\WAOL.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\1109379641\EE\AOLHOSTMANAGER.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\1109379641\EE\AOLSERVICEHOST.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\AOL\ACS\AOLACSD.EXE
> > C:\PROGRAM FILES\AMERICA ONLINE 9.0A\SHELLMON.EXE
> > Not to mention Viewpoint!
> >
> > Have a great New Year, Noel. Don't have Tooo much fun <g>.
> > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.RemoveThis@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
> > news:O8oLBuFDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> AOL9 works fine on ME (at least here in the UK, on dialup, it does!<g>)
> >> It
> >> does mean that you need to have more RAM available, though - I'd
> >> recommend
> > a
> >> minimum of 128MB (and check that the size of the Virtual Memory isn't
> >> limited).
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >>
> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >>
> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
> >> "Heather" <figgs.RemoveThis@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
> >> news:u$JH2sDDGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi KB.....he is probably fast asleep, preparing for a wild New Year's
> > Eve.
> >> > But if memory serves me right, AOL 9 is NOT recommended for WinME.
But
> > he
> >> > will be up and about soon and can tell you.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers....Heather
> >> >
> >> > "KB" <KB.RemoveThis@discussions.winme> wrote in message
> >> > news:u9dTpfDDGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hey, Noel. Long time no e.
> >> >>
> >> >> Guilty as charged here Wink

working to help the OP in another forum.
> > You're
> >> >> exactly correct, again. Then again, it's worth looking at process
> >> >> explorer
> >> >> (as well as the startup axis and swapfile usage for memory purposes)
> >> >> to
> >> >> see
> >> >> if there's a CPU hog lurking in the background slowing the system.
> >> >>
> >> >> Whatta ya think of AOL 9.0 on a WinME system? Would you revert back
> >> >> to
> >> >> an
> >> >> older version?
> >> >>
> >> >> And, thanks for your help once again, way back when, and the
lesson's
> >> >> learned.
> >> >>
> >> >> Happy Holidaze, Noel.
> >> >>
> >> >> KB
> >> >> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.RemoveThis@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:OE3JwAmCGHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> >>> You can safely IGNORE anything classed as 'System Idle' in process
> >> >>> explorer - that's simply the difference between the available CPU
> > power
> >> >> and
> >> >>> the 'used' CPU power (for want of a better phrase after too many
> >> >>> pints
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> ale<g>)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Note (PLEASE!!) that processor usage (100-System Idle) is in NO WAY
> >> >> related
> >> >>> to used resources!!!! - now go back and look again at the startup
> > axis!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> >>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
> >> >>> NG's
> >> >>> "Dean" <Dean.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:4BF3607D-008C-4712-8053-1E559D6EA7E1@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> > Also, I ran a free software called "process explorer" and the
only
> > big
> >> >>> > number
> >> >>> > in the CPU column was under system idle, which was 94. WAOL was 4
> > (AOL
> >> >> was
> >> >>> > the only thing I'd opened other than what's there at startup) and
> >> >>> > procexp.exe
> >> >>> > was about 1 or 2. I assume that this means that my system is
being
> >> >>> > tied
> >> >> up
> >> >>> > with stuff other than applications I might use, or am i wrong?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Thanks again!
> >> >>> > Dean
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > "Dean" wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> The programs open on startup are various AOL stuff (including
> >> >>> >> AOLACSDaemon),
> >> >>> >> various HP stuff (associated with the all-in-one machine) and
> >> >>> >> ccWasher,
> >> >>> >> Dit,
> >> >>> >> DiskMonitor, View mgr, HostManaager, Quick TT, Still Image
> >> >>> >> Monitor.
> >> >>> >> Webshots,
> >> >>> >> and Microsoft Office Sartup.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> My system resources, just aftre rebooting are 56% - is this too
> > low.
> >> >>> >> I
> >> >>> >> think I posted some numbers with everything excpet explorer
closed
> >> >>> >> out.
> >> >>> >> Didn't that already indicate a problem?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Thanks so much for your patient help. A virus scan took almost
> > three
> >> >>> >> hours
> >> >>> >> (and found nothing). Everything is slow here, though it does
seem
> > to
> >> >> be
> >> >>> >> imporving!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Dean
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> > It could be that the PC has picked up some other nasties
along
> > the
> >> >>> >> > way -
> >> >>> >> > check in MSCONFIG (Start|Run - type MSCONFIG, and click OK)
> > Startup
> >> >>> >> > list to
> >> >>> >> > see what's loaded.
> >> >>> >> > post the list here, if you like - or look here for
instructions
> > on
> >> >> how
> >> >>> >> > to
> >> >>> >> > clean up your startup axis, preventing unnecessary programs
> > loading
> >> >>> >> > (enter any item in the startup list in MSCONFIG into the
search
> > box
> >> >> on
> >> >>> >> > the
> >> >>> >> > page, and click Search)
> >> >>> >> > http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > for detailed instructions - look here
> >> >>> >> > http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > HTH
> >> >>> >> > --
> >> >>> >> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> >>> >> > http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
> >> >>> >> > messages
> >> >>> >> > to
> >> >>> >> > NG's
> >> >>> >> > "Dean" <Dean.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> >> > news:945B049E-57DD-4051-A8CF-48DF1A558BB3@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> >> > > Help, please. My dad has an old ME computer. All he does is
> > edit
> >> >>> >> > > a
> >> >>> >> > > small
> >> >>> >> > > EXCEL file once every two months and check e-mail via AOL
> >> >>> >> > > (dial
> >> >>> >> > > up)
> >> >>> >> > > daily
> >> >>> >> > > and
> >> >>> >> > > use an HP all in one machine. He has no patience to do more,
> > and
> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> > > slowness
> >> >>> >> > > of his computer lately certainly isn't helping! He
apparently
> > has
> >> >>> >> > > 128MB of
> >> >>> >> > > RAM. AOL says they recommend 64MB of RAM for AOL 9.0, though
> > they
> >> >> say
> >> >>> >> > > even
> >> >>> >> > > 32MB might still work. His system resources are at 100%. If
I
> >> >>> >> > > close
> >> >>> >> > > everything down except explorer (he doesn't have systray), I
> > can
> >> >> get
> >> >>> >> > > it
> >> >>> >> > > down
> >> >>> >> > > to only about 80%.
> >> >>> >> > >
> >> >>> >> > > I have run adaware and AVG antivirus after doing a thorough
> >> >> scandisk
> >> >>> >> > > and
> >> >>> >> > > disk defrag, all to no avail. He virtually does not go to
> >> >>> >> > > websites
> >> >> or
> >> >>> >> > > download anything, so I was not surprised to find no viruses
> >> >>> >> > > (took
> >> >> 3
> >> >>> >> > > hrs
> >> >>> >> > > to
> >> >>> >> > > do a virus scan) and minimal spam.
> >> >>> >> > >
> >> >>> >> > > I know that both the HP software and AOL are known to be
> >> >>> >> > > memory
> >> >> hogs
> >> >>> >> > > but
> >> >>> >> > > should they use up 100% of the 128 MB RAM? Even with
> >> >>> >> > > everything
> >> >>> >> > > except
> >> >>> >> > > explorer closed, he still has 80% being used. Is there
> >> >>> >> > > anything
> >> >> else
> >> >>> >> > > that
> >> >>> >> > > could be tying up resources? Should 128 MB RAM be enough?
> >> >>> >> > > Even
> >> >>> >> > > if
> >> >> I
> >> >>> >> > > close
> >> >>> >> > > everything down, is even 80% low enough?
> >> >>> >> > >
> >> >>> >> > > I assume an older version of AOL would help and he would not
> >> >>> >> > > notice
> >> >>> >> > > the
> >> >>> >> > > difference. Do you agree? I assume I should call HP for a
> > minimal
> >> >>> >> > > startup
> >> >>> >> > > configuration, right?
> >> >>> >> > >
> >> >>> >> > > What else could be the problem?
> >> >>> >> > >
> >> >>> >> > > Lastly, how do I change what program are loaded at startup,
> >> >>> >> > > though
> >> >> it
> >> >>> >> > > seems
> >> >>> >> > > like closing AOL and HP were the only ones that made an
> >> >>> >> > > appreciable
> >> >>> >> > > difference.
> >> >>> >> > >
> >> >>> >> > > Thanks much!
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Joan Archer · External Since: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 1184

<lol> I doubt it <g>

And how long did we tell you that XP was good <g>

I thought you said Ron was buying you a flat panel for Christmas ?
Joan

Heather wrote:
> Chuckle!! At his age, Noel NEEDS two days to prepare for New
> Year's Eve. (G)
>
> XP is just amazing, and I discovered there seem to be no BSOD's with
> it.....so far!! I always thought they were normal (not). Got the
> old WinME up and connected via a new router, so can still use it. But
> boy, it is slow!!
>
> I thought the same as you re price.....but Willy built this for about
> $900 Cdn and my old WinME POC cost me $2300. Can't complain about
> the price. Find a tech like him and get a new one built. Just have
> to justify a flat panel monitor now, lol.
>
> Cheers...Heather

Heather · External Since: Sep 13, 2005 Posts: 424

Brat!! You know all the problems I had trying to put it on my very
expensive (and worthless) WinME computer!! But I have to say it is more
amazing than I realized. I have been doing *mean things* to it the past
week and it isn't even flinching!!

Guess I will have to ask some questions in the XP groups, which is not a
pleasant thought!! I really think our WinME ng should also be called
"WinME'ers who upgraded to XP" or some such....grin.

Off to spend some time with the Old Guy & Slim Hips. She goes back on
Sunday. She bought us a DVD player and we are going to hook that up. I won
a Bugatti leather backpack (like I needed it, lol) and she got that for
Xmas. Hey.....why spend money?? (G)

Did you know that someone on here had a birthday on the 27th?? Wonder how
old he is....lol. He ain't talkin'. I will drop further clues.

Figgs
"Joan Archer" <archer_joan DeleteThis @NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:eMMHJtLDGHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> <lol> I doubt it <g>
>
> And how long did we tell you that XP was good <g>
>
> I thought you said Ron was buying you a flat panel for Christmas ?
> Joan
>
>
>
> Heather wrote:
>> Chuckle!! At his age, Noel NEEDS two days to prepare for New
>> Year's Eve. (G)
>>
>> XP is just amazing, and I discovered there seem to be no BSOD's with
>> it.....so far!! I always thought they were normal (not). Got the
>> old WinME up and connected via a new router, so can still use it. But
>> boy, it is slow!!
>>
>> I thought the same as you re price.....but Willy built this for about
>> $900 Cdn and my old WinME POC cost me $2300. Can't complain about
>> the price. Find a tech like him and get a new one built. Just have
>> to justify a flat panel monitor now, lol.
>>
>> Cheers...Heather
>
>

Mike M1 · External Since: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 4241

Figgs,

BSODs or rather Stop screens abound in XP but are primarily hardware and
driver related. You're right though that once you've got your hardware
sorted and the correct drivers installed you should hopefully see few blue
screens in XP. In fact as few as you will see in a decent Win Me setup.
Being totally honest I cannot remember when I last saw a BSOD on a PC here
running Win Me, three/four years perhaps? Seen plenty of STOP screens
though in XP in that time. Smile

Cheers,
--
Mike M

Heather <figgs.TakeThisOut@invalid.nospam> wrote:

> Chuckle!! At his age, Noel NEEDS two days to prepare for New
> Year's Eve. (G)
>
> XP is just amazing, and I discovered there seem to be no BSOD's with
> it.....so far!! I always thought they were normal (not). Got the
> old WinME up and connected via a new router, so can still use it. But
> boy, it is slow!!
>
> I thought the same as you re price.....but Willy built this for about
> $900 Cdn and my old WinME POC cost me $2300. Can't complain about
> the price. Find a tech like him and get a new one built. Just have
> to justify a flat panel monitor now, lol.

Noel Paton · External Since: Oct 12, 2005 Posts: 1781

Hey - you're not going to let SH go home without talking to me, are you??

MOOOOUUUUSSSSEEEE!!!!! - come hither!!!

<GD&R - and you don't know how ffast!!!>

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Heather" <figgs.RemoveThis@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
news:uZubAEMDGHA.2356@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Brat!! You know all the problems I had trying to put it on my very
> expensive (and worthless) WinME computer!! But I have to say it is more
> amazing than I realized. I have been doing *mean things* to it the past
> week and it isn't even flinching!!
>
> Guess I will have to ask some questions in the XP groups, which is not a
> pleasant thought!! I really think our WinME ng should also be called
> "WinME'ers who upgraded to XP" or some such....grin.
>
> Off to spend some time with the Old Guy & Slim Hips. She goes back on
> Sunday. She bought us a DVD player and we are going to hook that up. I
> won a Bugatti leather backpack (like I needed it, lol) and she got that
> for Xmas. Hey.....why spend money?? (G)
>
> Did you know that someone on here had a birthday on the 27th?? Wonder how
> old he is....lol. He ain't talkin'. I will drop further clues.
>
> Figgs
> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan.RemoveThis@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:eMMHJtLDGHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> <lol> I doubt it <g>
>>
>> And how long did we tell you that XP was good <g>
>>
>> I thought you said Ron was buying you a flat panel for Christmas ?
>> Joan
>>
>>
>>
>> Heather wrote:
>>> Chuckle!! At his age, Noel NEEDS two days to prepare for New
>>> Year's Eve. (G)
>>>
>>> XP is just amazing, and I discovered there seem to be no BSOD's with
>>> it.....so far!! I always thought they were normal (not). Got the
>>> old WinME up and connected via a new router, so can still use it. But
>>> boy, it is slow!!
>>>
>>> I thought the same as you re price.....but Willy built this for about
>>> $900 Cdn and my old WinME POC cost me $2300. Can't complain about
>>> the price. Find a tech like him and get a new one built. Just have
>>> to justify a flat panel monitor now, lol.
>>>
>>> Cheers...Heather
>>
>>
>
>

Heather · External Since: Sep 13, 2005 Posts: 424

ROFL!! I never thought to have her give you a ring......(subliminal message
in there, grin)

I will certainly have her call you before Sunday. I have a turkey to cook
tomorrow so will be slaving over a hot stove......instead of this computer.
We had a vote tonight on whether or not to cook the durned thing, and figure
it will provide meals for the last 2.5 days.

Perhaps she should call now......it is 2:11 am in Jolly Olde. (G)

Kissies....Figgs

"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless.TakeThisOut@crashfixpc.com> wrote in message
news:OzXlPhMDGHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hey - you're not going to let SH go home without talking to me, are you??
>
> MOOOOUUUUSSSSEEEE!!!!! - come hither!!!
>
> <GD&R - and you don't know how ffast!!!>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "Heather" <figgs.TakeThisOut@invalid.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uZubAEMDGHA.2356@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Brat!! You know all the problems I had trying to put it on my very
>> expensive (and worthless) WinME computer!! But I have to say it is more
>> amazing than I realized. I have been doing *mean things* to it the past
>> week and it isn't even flinching!!
>>
>> Guess I will have to ask some questions in the XP groups, which is not a
>> pleasant thought!! I really think our WinME ng should also be called
>> "WinME'ers who upgraded to XP" or some such....grin.
>>
>> Off to spend some time with the Old Guy & Slim Hips. She goes back on
>> Sunday. She bought us a DVD player and we are going to hook that up. I
>> won a Bugatti leather backpack (like I needed it, lol) and she got that
>> for Xmas. Hey.....why spend money?? (G)
>>
>> Did you know that someone on here had a birthday on the 27th?? Wonder
>> how old he is....lol. He ain't talkin'. I will drop further clues.
>>
>> Figgs
>> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> news:eMMHJtLDGHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> <lol> I doubt it <g>
>>>
>>> And how long did we tell you that XP was good <g>
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>>> I thought you said Ron was buying you a flat panel for Christmas ?
>>> Joan
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>>> Heather wrote:
>>>> Chuckle!! At his age, Noel NEEDS two days to prepare for New
>>>> Year's Eve. (G)
>>>>
>>>> XP is just amazing, and I discovered there seem to be no BSOD's with
>>>> it.....so far!! I always thought they were normal (not). Got the
>>>> old WinME up and connected via a new router, so can still use it. But
>>>> boy, it is slow!!
>>>>
>>>> I thought the same as you re price.....but Willy built this for about
>>>> $900 Cdn and my old WinME POC cost me $2300. Can't complain about
>>>> the price. Find a tech like him and get a new one built. Just have
>>>> to justify a flat panel monitor now, lol.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers...Heather
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