Setup Problem on Newer Computer

Norm · External Since: Nov 01, 2005 Posts: 5

Hi,

When trying to setup Win95 on a Dell 8200 the files seem to be copied OK,
but when setup restarts the computer I get a protection error when the ISO
begins to start and the computer shuts down.

It seems I vaguely remember this protection error, but it has been awhile.
Smile

Does anyone have any idea what is causing this and a way to correct it.

Thanks,
Norm

Bill Starbuck · External Since: Dec 13, 2003 Posts: 144

>When trying to setup Win95 on a Dell 8200 the files seem to be copied OK,
>but when setup restarts the computer I get a protection error when the ISO
>begins to start and the computer shuts down.

Does this document help?
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;224836

Bill Starbuck (MVP)

Ron Martell2 · External Since: Aug 30, 2004 Posts: 523

"Norm" <NormF4.TakeThisOut@newsgroups.spoof> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>When trying to setup Win95 on a Dell 8200 the files seem to be copied OK,
>but when setup restarts the computer I get a protection error when the ISO
>begins to start and the computer shuts down.
>
>It seems I vaguely remember this protection error, but it has been awhile.
> Smile

>
>Does anyone have any idea what is causing this and a way to correct it.
>
>Thanks,
>Norm
>

What is the actual content of the error message? That may provide
some additional clues.

One possibility is the size of the hard drive. Windows 95 cannot use
a hard drive larger than 32 gb.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Norm · External Since: Nov 01, 2005 Posts: 5

>
> What is the actual content of the error message? That may provide
> some additional clues.
>
> One possibility is the size of the hard drive. Windows 95 cannot use
> a hard drive larger than 32 gb.
>
> Good luck
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP
> On-Line Help Computer Service
> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Bill, that site is interesting, but not the type error I am getting. At
least I don't think so.

I am not sure I remember the exact error, but there is no number. It said
While Initializing IOS Windows had a Protection error Reboot your computer.

Rebooting takes you to the safe mode, which gives you the same error. I
tried command line booting, but everything else loads fine and then I get
the same error.

The hard drive is bigger than 32 gb, but Windows 95 is on a 3 gb partition.
Can it still see the whole hard drive? If so that may be the problem.

Norm

benjmyers · External Since: Dec 05, 2004 Posts: 246

Try downloading and installing the AMD high speed processor
patch.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q192/8/41.asp

Ben

"Norm" <NormF4 RemoveThis @newsgroups.spoof> wrote in message news:ulgva#$3FHA.2196@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >
> > What is the actual content of the error message? That may provide
> > some additional clues.
> >
> > One possibility is the size of the hard drive. Windows 95 cannot use
> > a hard drive larger than 32 gb.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> > --
> > Microsoft MVP
> > On-Line Help Computer Service
> > http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
> >
> > In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> > http://aumha.org/alex.htm
>
> Bill, that site is interesting, but not the type error I am getting. At
> least I don't think so.
>
> I am not sure I remember the exact error, but there is no number. It said
> While Initializing IOS Windows had a Protection error Reboot your computer.
>
> Rebooting takes you to the safe mode, which gives you the same error. I
> tried command line booting, but everything else loads fine and then I get
> the same error.
>
> The hard drive is bigger than 32 gb, but Windows 95 is on a 3 gb partition.
> Can it still see the whole hard drive? If so that may be the problem.
>
> Norm
>
>

Norm · External Since: Nov 01, 2005 Posts: 5

Thanks Ben,

I don't have the AMD processor but will try the patch on Win95 and see if it
helps.

Norm

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers.RemoveThis@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
news:%23TCasBF4FHA.1140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Try downloading and installing the AMD high speed processor
patch.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q192/8/41.asp

Ben

"Norm" <NormF4.RemoveThis@newsgroups.spoof> wrote in message
news:ulgva#$3FHA.2196@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >
> > What is the actual content of the error message? That may provide
> > some additional clues.
> >
> > One possibility is the size of the hard drive. Windows 95 cannot use
> > a hard drive larger than 32 gb.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> > --
> > Microsoft MVP
> > On-Line Help Computer Service
> > http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
> >
> > In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> > http://aumha.org/alex.htm
>
> Bill, that site is interesting, but not the type error I am getting. At
> least I don't think so.
>
> I am not sure I remember the exact error, but there is no number. It said
> While Initializing IOS Windows had a Protection error Reboot your
> computer.
>
> Rebooting takes you to the safe mode, which gives you the same error. I
> tried command line booting, but everything else loads fine and then I get
> the same error.
>
> The hard drive is bigger than 32 gb, but Windows 95 is on a 3 gb
> partition.
> Can it still see the whole hard drive? If so that may be the problem.
>
> Norm
>
>

Ron Martell2 · External Since: Aug 30, 2004 Posts: 523

"Norm" <NormF4 RemoveThis @newsgroups.spoof> wrote:

<snip>

>The hard drive is bigger than 32 gb, but Windows 95 is on a 3 gb partition.
>Can it still see the whole hard drive? If so that may be the problem.
>
>Norm
>

As far as I am aware it is the partition size and not the overall size
of the drive that is the limiting factor with Windows 95. So if you
have a 3 gb partition for Windows 95 then that should not be the cause
of your problems.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Norm · External Since: Nov 01, 2005 Posts: 5

I tried the update executable, but I am unable to start Win95 even in the
safe mode to use it and it will not run from DOS.

Does anyone know where I can download the following files, as I can replace
them manually from another operating system.
09/04/98 11:18am 4.00.1118 24,426 bytes Esdi_506.pdr
08/03/98 11:13am 4.00.1113 25,249 bytes Hsflop.pdr
09/04/98 11:12am 4.00.1112 23,158 bytes Scsiport.pdr
01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 59,153 bytes Cdfs.vxd
01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 18,809 bytes Disktsd.vxd
01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 9,955 bytes Int13.vxd
09/04/98 11:13am 4.00.1113 68,962 bytes Ios.vxd
01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 18,197 bytes Vfbackup.vxd This one the
NTkern.vxd that the update says is in the Windows/System/Vmm32 folder I
don't have any version of in that folder.
12/04/98 12:13pm 4.00.1213 111,678 bytes Ntkern.vxdNorm

"Ben Myers" <benjmyers RemoveThis @mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
news:%23TCasBF4FHA.1140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Try downloading and installing the AMD high speed processor
patch.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q192/8/41.asp

Ben

"Norm" <NormF4 RemoveThis @newsgroups.spoof> wrote in message
news:ulgva#$3FHA.2196@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >
> > What is the actual content of the error message? That may provide
> > some additional clues.
> >
> > One possibility is the size of the hard drive. Windows 95 cannot use
> > a hard drive larger than 32 gb.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> > --
> > Microsoft MVP
> > On-Line Help Computer Service
> > http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
> >
> > In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> > http://aumha.org/alex.htm
>
> Bill, that site is interesting, but not the type error I am getting. At
> least I don't think so.
>
> I am not sure I remember the exact error, but there is no number. It said
> While Initializing IOS Windows had a Protection error Reboot your
> computer.
>
> Rebooting takes you to the safe mode, which gives you the same error. I
> tried command line booting, but everything else loads fine and then I get
> the same error.
>
> The hard drive is bigger than 32 gb, but Windows 95 is on a 3 gb
> partition.
> Can it still see the whole hard drive? If so that may be the problem.
>
> Norm
>
>

benjmyers · External Since: Dec 05, 2004 Posts: 246

Open the executable with WinZip and extract the files to a floppy.
Then start the problem computer in DOS, insert the floppy and
copy the files as follows:

All versions
ESDI_506.PDR c:\windows\system\iosubsys
SCSIPORT.PDR c:\windows\system\iosubsys

Windows 95 OSR2 and later
HSFLOP.PDR c:\windows\system\iosubsys
CDFS.VXD c:\windows\system\iosubsys
DISKTSD.VXD c:\windows\system\iosubsys
IOS.VXD c:\windows\system\vmm32
INT13.VXD c:\windows\system\vmm32
VFBACKUP.VXD c:\windows\system\vmm32

Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and later
NTKERN.VXD c:\windows\system\vmm32

Ben

"Norm" <NormF4.DeleteThis@newsgroups.spoof> wrote in message news:O0lLy0L4FHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I tried the update executable, but I am unable to start Win95 even in the
> safe mode to use it and it will not run from DOS.
>
> Does anyone know where I can download the following files, as I can replace
> them manually from another operating system.
> 09/04/98 11:18am 4.00.1118 24,426 bytes Esdi_506.pdr
> 08/03/98 11:13am 4.00.1113 25,249 bytes Hsflop.pdr
> 09/04/98 11:12am 4.00.1112 23,158 bytes Scsiport.pdr
> 01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 59,153 bytes Cdfs.vxd
> 01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 18,809 bytes Disktsd.vxd
> 01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 9,955 bytes Int13.vxd
> 09/04/98 11:13am 4.00.1113 68,962 bytes Ios.vxd
> 01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 18,197 bytes Vfbackup.vxd This one the
> NTkern.vxd that the update says is in the Windows/System/Vmm32 folder I
> don't have any version of in that folder.
> 12/04/98 12:13pm 4.00.1213 111,678 bytes Ntkern.vxdNorm
>
>
> "Ben Myers" <benjmyers.DeleteThis@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23TCasBF4FHA.1140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Try downloading and installing the AMD high speed processor
> patch.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q192/8/41.asp
>
> Ben
>
> "Norm" <NormF4.DeleteThis@newsgroups.spoof> wrote in message
> news:ulgva#$3FHA.2196@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > What is the actual content of the error message? That may provide
> > > some additional clues.
> > >
> > > One possibility is the size of the hard drive. Windows 95 cannot use
> > > a hard drive larger than 32 gb.
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > >
> > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> > > --
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > On-Line Help Computer Service
> > > http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
> > >
> > > In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> > > http://aumha.org/alex.htm
> >
> > Bill, that site is interesting, but not the type error I am getting. At
> > least I don't think so.
> >
> > I am not sure I remember the exact error, but there is no number. It said
> > While Initializing IOS Windows had a Protection error Reboot your
> > computer.
> >
> > Rebooting takes you to the safe mode, which gives you the same error. I
> > tried command line booting, but everything else loads fine and then I get
> > the same error.
> >
> > The hard drive is bigger than 32 gb, but Windows 95 is on a 3 gb
> > partition.
> > Can it still see the whole hard drive? If so that may be the problem.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
>
>

Norm · External Since: Nov 01, 2005 Posts: 5

I was able to get the files I needed by installing Win95 into a Virtual
drive and after updating it there I copied the files I needed into the
partition on my hard drive.

I am happy to report that Win95 is now running on my hard drive. All I have
to do now is find some drivers that will work with my system and Win95.

Thanks to everyone for all the help, I really appreciate it.

Norm
"Ben Myers" <benjmyers.TakeThisOut@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
news:%235WiDtQ4FHA.476@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Open the executable with WinZip and extract the files to a floppy.
Then start the problem computer in DOS, insert the floppy and
copy the files as follows:

All versions
ESDI_506.PDR c:\windows\system\iosubsys
SCSIPORT.PDR c:\windows\system\iosubsys

Windows 95 OSR2 and later
HSFLOP.PDR c:\windows\system\iosubsys
CDFS.VXD c:\windows\system\iosubsys
DISKTSD.VXD c:\windows\system\iosubsys
IOS.VXD c:\windows\system\vmm32
INT13.VXD c:\windows\system\vmm32
VFBACKUP.VXD c:\windows\system\vmm32

Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and later
NTKERN.VXD c:\windows\system\vmm32

Ben

"Norm" <NormF4.TakeThisOut@newsgroups.spoof> wrote in message
news:O0lLy0L4FHA.3880@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I tried the update executable, but I am unable to start Win95 even in the
> safe mode to use it and it will not run from DOS.
>
> Does anyone know where I can download the following files, as I can
> replace
> them manually from another operating system.
> 09/04/98 11:18am 4.00.1118 24,426 bytes Esdi_506.pdr
> 08/03/98 11:13am 4.00.1113 25,249 bytes Hsflop.pdr
> 09/04/98 11:12am 4.00.1112 23,158 bytes Scsiport.pdr
> 01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 59,153 bytes Cdfs.vxd
> 01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 18,809 bytes Disktsd.vxd
> 01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 9,955 bytes Int13.vxd
> 09/04/98 11:13am 4.00.1113 68,962 bytes Ios.vxd
> 01/15/97 11:12am 4.00.1112 18,197 bytes Vfbackup.vxd This one the
> NTkern.vxd that the update says is in the Windows/System/Vmm32 folder I
> don't have any version of in that folder.
> 12/04/98 12:13pm 4.00.1213 111,678 bytes Ntkern.vxdNorm
>
>
> "Ben Myers" <benjmyers.TakeThisOut@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23TCasBF4FHA.1140@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Try downloading and installing the AMD high speed processor
> patch.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q192/8/41.asp
>
> Ben
>
> "Norm" <NormF4.TakeThisOut@newsgroups.spoof> wrote in message
> news:ulgva#$3FHA.2196@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > What is the actual content of the error message? That may provide
> > > some additional clues.
> > >
> > > One possibility is the size of the hard drive. Windows 95 cannot use
> > > a hard drive larger than 32 gb.
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > >
> > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> > > --
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > On-Line Help Computer Service
> > > http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
> > >
> > > In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> > > http://aumha.org/alex.htm
> >
> > Bill, that site is interesting, but not the type error I am getting. At
> > least I don't think so.
> >
> > I am not sure I remember the exact error, but there is no number. It
> > said
> > While Initializing IOS Windows had a Protection error Reboot your
> > computer.
> >
> > Rebooting takes you to the safe mode, which gives you the same error. I
> > tried command line booting, but everything else loads fine and then I
> > get
> > the same error.
> >
> > The hard drive is bigger than 32 gb, but Windows 95 is on a 3 gb
> > partition.
> > Can it still see the whole hard drive? If so that may be the problem.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
>
>