Installing Ethenet card fails causing VXD tbl and loss of ..

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

Running Window 98 SE:

I have been attempting to install new D-LinkDFE 530 TX Ethernet card
which would replace my existing PCI card that has a faulty cable
connector. The old card has been working fine, no problem save for the
connector which won't hold the cable connector in place. In fact my
system has no problems save this installation thing.

Per instructions first run the installation CD, then install the card,
Windows recognizes the card and begins to install. Near the end of the
install sequence Windows says it has found a version conflict with
VIP.386 (A file being copied is older than the file currently on your
computer, which is version 4.10.2224. It is recommended that you keep the
existing file, which I do). I say use the existing file but the damage
appears to have been already done. An instant before the conflict message
appears I start to get a series of illegal operation messages that seem
to indicate that access to virtual drivers are a problem. From this point
on I can no loner communicate on the Ethernet. I then resort to restoring
my system from and image to get back to normal.

Things I have done without success:

1. Left the original card in and installed the new card in an other slot.
2. Attempted to install an usb to Ethernet adapter to circumvent
installing a PCI card.
3. Tried to locate the out of date VIP.386 file. I searched for vip.386
found two Instances. One in Windows/System and one in
Windows/Options/CABs. The vip file in CABs was 4.10.2002; the one in
System was version 4.10.2224.I changed the CABs vip file to vip.OLD and
copied the System vip file to the CABs folder. Windows still said I was
trying to replace the existing VIP.386 with an out of date one when I
attempted to install the USB to Ethernet adapter.
4. Uninstalled the old Ethernet Card in Device manager. Then installed
the new drivers and card.
5. Came up in safe mode to look for bogus network cards or duplicates -
nothing there.

In each and every case, just as the VIP.386 old version window appears, I
get the first illegal operation message (typically associated with a
start menu program) and others follow including rundll32s. At that point
I don't have connectivity either.

I initially sought help in the Windows.public.win98.setup group. Had a
good response but had no success. This problem seems to be related to a
corrupt TCP/IP data or file or installation leg or implementation
sequence. I don't know anything about how Windows goes about installing a
network card using TCP/IP internally. I'm looking for help to find the
trouble, which for now precludes installation of any network related
hardware on my computer.

TIA

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

Gary:

some progress but I've hit a snag.

Got to the point that I powered down, installed the D-link DFE-5300TX PCI
card. Powered up got past the installtion windows that said You have an old
version of VIP/386, said use the one on the system then got to the New
Hardware Wizard.

I've had no illegal operations thus far, could be because of no startup
stuff.

THE PROBLEM NOW: the New Hardware Wizard asks for new drivers, I specify
the location of the unzipped file on my desktop C:\WINDOWS\Desktop
\Driver_File which was unzipped from:
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/NIC/dfe530tx/Driver/dfe530TX_driver_10152001.exe

Windows then says it was unable to locate a driver for this device.

Also when Windows found the card it identified it generically not as D-Link
....

Your thoughts?

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

Gary:

I did an explore on the install CD and there are no ini files. Apparaently
there are cab files used for each operation system.

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

Gary

More Success, different adapter, but still not there.

At this point it seems what ever was causing the illegal operations has,
for the time being looks like its been handled.

Because Windows didn't like the D-link ini file and I couldn't locate one
one on the installation CD I brought out the new Airlink 101 Fast Ethernet
Adapter I initially bought and thought might be the problem. It had a
floppy with an ini file on it for Windows98.

I got it to install without incident. However when I try to go out on the
internet, I am not getting out for some reason. However I can communicate
on my home network (after I went to Control Panel/Network/configuration and
turned on print sharing.)

What could be keeping me from going out on the network?

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

Gary:

Trouble has reappeared.

I hadn't touched any of the Clean Boot setup while doing the install. I
still can't go out on the internet but can indeed communicate on my home
network. I then went to MSCONFIG and turned on "Load startup group items"
and rebooted, the machine came up in a light blue low resolution screen (I
have my backgroud that color normally). I've never seen low resolution
comeup like this before. In retrospect it was coming up normally but in
this low resolution mode. Just for kicks I did a restart, hit f8 and said
Normal, again it came up in this very low resolution screen, this wasn't
the safe mode. While in this low resolution mode I went back to MS Config
and turned off Startup. rebooted and system came up okay.

While in the low resolution mode I began getting all the illegal messages
flow that was my initial problem.

It appears something startup is screwing up any new network hardward
additions.

What would you suggest?

Is the inablity to go out on the network a trouble or a setting issue?

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

"T. Duprex" <tduprexATlandmark.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98DB98BEB747Epinger@207.46.248.16...
> Gary:
>
> some progress but I've hit a snag.
>
>
> Got to the point that I powered down, installed the D-link DFE-5300TX PCI
> card. Powered up got past the installtion windows that said You have an
> old
> version of VIP/386, said use the one on the system then got to the New
> Hardware Wizard.
>
> I've had no illegal operations thus far, could be because of no startup
> stuff.
>
> THE PROBLEM NOW: the New Hardware Wizard asks for new drivers, I specify
> the location of the unzipped file on my desktop C:\WINDOWS\Desktop
> \Driver_File which was unzipped from:
> ftp://ftp.dlink.com/NIC/dfe530tx/Driver/dfe530TX_driver_10152001.exe

When you unzipped teh file into \Driver_File\, there should be another
folder inside that one called WIN98. THat is where the INF file is located.
You say something later about an INI file. That's not an INF file.

>
> Windows then says it was unable to locate a driver for this device.
>
> Also when Windows found the card it identified it generically not as
> D-Link
> ...
>
> Your thoughts?

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

Have you tried sharing a folder? Share one, at least, on each computer, then
see if you can find them in Network Neighborhood. If you can see files on
the network, but not get out on the problem machine, and you can get out on
the other computer(s), then I'd suspect that your router's not set up
properly. You should be using DHCP, which assigns internal addresses
automatically.

If you're not using a router, but only using a switch after the DSL/Cable
modem, then that may be the problem. What does the rest of your network look
like, starting at the connection that comes in, DSL or Cable? Describe each
piece of hardware.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" <tduprexATlandmark.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98DBA21D28A31pinger@207.46.248.16...
> Gary
>
> More Success, different adapter, but still not there.
>
> At this point it seems what ever was causing the illegal operations has,
> for the time being looks like its been handled.
>
> Because Windows didn't like the D-link ini file and I couldn't locate one
> one on the installation CD I brought out the new Airlink 101 Fast Ethernet
> Adapter I initially bought and thought might be the problem. It had a
> floppy with an ini file on it for Windows98.
>
> I got it to install without incident. However when I try to go out on the
> internet, I am not getting out for some reason. However I can communicate
> on my home network (after I went to Control Panel/Network/configuration
> and
> turned on print sharing.)
>
> What could be keeping me from going out on the network?

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

Did you try raising the resolution to normal mode in Display Properties? If
that's not possible, then you have a problem app in your Startup queue. The
way to diagnose is to only enable half of the Startup Group, then restart.
If the problem returns, then you know it;s something in the half that you
enabled. If no return of problem, then it's in the half that's still
disabled. (Try switching the halves just to see if it's in the Startup Group
at all. Might be in Config.sys or Autoexec.bat.)

Assuming you the problem is in the Startup Group, based upon that knowledge
(keep lists!), re-enable all but half of the problem half. Again, if the
problem returns, you know it's in the quarter of the list that you just
re-enabled, or vice versa, in quarter that you left disabled (not part of
the half that was originally discounted as not containing the problem.)
Continue halving the list according to the above rules until you've located
the one item (or there may be more than one) that when enabled causes the
video problem, but when disabled causes the problem to disappear. You *can*
do this one by one, but the halving method is faster. I suspect something
that was installed by the danged D-Link software.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" <tduprexATlandmark.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98DBA77ECE307pinger@207.46.248.16...
> Gary:
>
> Trouble has reappeared.
>
> I hadn't touched any of the Clean Boot setup while doing the install. I
> still can't go out on the internet but can indeed communicate on my home
> network. I then went to MSCONFIG and turned on "Load startup group items"
> and rebooted, the machine came up in a light blue low resolution screen (I
> have my backgroud that color normally). I've never seen low resolution
> comeup like this before. In retrospect it was coming up normally but in
> this low resolution mode. Just for kicks I did a restart, hit f8 and said
> Normal, again it came up in this very low resolution screen, this wasn't
> the safe mode. While in this low resolution mode I went back to MS Config
> and turned off Startup. rebooted and system came up okay.
>
> While in the low resolution mode I began getting all the illegal messages
> flow that was my initial problem.
>
> It appears something startup is screwing up any new network hardward
> additions.
>
> What would you suggest?
>
> Is the inablity to go out on the network a trouble or a setting issue?

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in
news:OPXV#g6UHHA.388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> Have you tried sharing a folder? Share one, at least, on each
> computer, then see if you can find them in Network Neighborhood. If
> you can see files on the network, but not get out on the problem
> machine, and you can get out on the other computer(s), then I'd
> suspect that your router's not set up properly. You should be using
> DHCP, which assigns internal addresses automatically.

Yes I can share folders back and forth. I have tested this rigorously.

Network: cable modem to Linksys WRT54GL router. Both this Windows 98
computer and WindowsXP laptop cable directly to router. Three other
computers, Macbook, another Windows98 and another WindowsXP plus a prinrter
server are wireless.

Router is set up for DHCP: as I sit here now only two computers and the
print server are on line the machine we are working on , known as TOWER,
has an IP of 192.168.1.101 the wired XP laptop also on line is
192.168.1.100. The print server, wireless is on 192.168.1.205. I printed
from both a wired and wireless machine. I had two of the wireless machines
on line before and they shared with no problem. All the other machines can
go out on the internet.

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

I pointed to the Win98 folder which contained a README.TXT file and the
NETDLFET.INF file. I mis-spoke about the INI file, I was looking on the
installation CD to see if they had the INF file. If it was accessable I
would have tried it to eliminate a corrupter file.

> When you unzipped teh file into \Driver_File\, there should be another
> folder inside that one called WIN98. THat is where the INF file is
> located. You say something later about an INI file. That's not an INF
> file.
>

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

Sorry, at this point, I'm not able to continue until I've had some rest. I'm
dealing with some insomnia, and my brain is on strike. I'll post back
tomorrow , latest (I'm on Pacific Time).

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" <tduprexATlandmark.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98DBB1E398840pinger@207.46.248.16...
>I pointed to the Win98 folder which contained a README.TXT file and the
> NETDLFET.INF file. I mis-spoke about the INI file, I was looking on the
> installation CD to see if they had the INF file. If it was accessable I
> would have tried it to eliminate a corrupter file.
>
>
>> When you unzipped teh file into \Driver_File\, there should be another
>> folder inside that one called WIN98. THat is where the INF file is
>> located. You say something later about an INI file. That's not an INF
>> file.
>>

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

Isolated two entries that caused some illegal messages, but not as wild as
before. I have 17 items now On. I turned off

DK Service which is associated with defragmenter called Diskeeper, file
name diskeeper.exe

and

ICSDCLT which in is C:\Windows, file name: rundll32.exe arguments:C:
\Windows\System\ecsdclt.dll.ICSClient.

and now I can boot up repeatedly with no chaffe.

Now the only issue is being able to communicate on the internet.

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

>
> Now the only issue is being able to communicate on the internet.
>

Did a few things but had no success:

To eliminate cable, swapped cable, then swapped ports on router.

Powered off all computers then varied the seqence I powered on to see IP
address of TOWER (the bad guy) would change, and it did. Also that I could
communicate intra net (swap files), and I could.

Did run:winipcfg, then release all and Renew all

Note that prior to attempting to install a new network card, the old card
worked fine. I could go to the interenet and intranet no problem. Would not
this eliminate the router?

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

Gary;

I also tried to install the D-Link DFE-530TX+ again when I noticed that I
gave you bum dope. We had the wrong diver.

I told you I had a DFE-530TX!! I have a Plus.

I noticed that the model was a DFE-530TX+ a plus. Went to the D-Link site
and downloaded the driver file: dfe530TX+_driver_5397.exe which is
different than dfe530TX_driver_10152001.exe, the one I tried to install.
Disappointedly, when I pointed the "Search for" to the win98 unzipped
folder, it again said it couldn't find a driver. Very frustrating.

This Win98 folder had the following files: DLDRTS.SYS; Netdlkr5.cat; and
NETDLKR5.INF.

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

More test results.

Attempt to install network printer fails.

I tried to install a network printer on TOWER, thinking that if I can share
files this ought to work. It fails.

I have an Brother HL2070N, a network capable printer that is connected to
one of the ethernet ports on a NETGEAR WGPS606 wireless print server that
has 2 usb connectors and 4 Ethernet ports. All other computers have had
the HL2070N installed and can print, no problem.

In the original network card configuraton before trying to install a new
card, I had set up TOWER to print and it did. Unfortunately I did not make
a system image after I installed the Brother. Therefore in the present
condition, seeing how I could communicate intranet, I attempted to install
the Brother. It fails when the installation disk searches the network to
set up a peer to peer link I immediately get a Setup window with a "this
program has performed and illegal operation". In monitoring the LEDs on
the network card they didn't even blink.

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

Diskkeeper could caused problems. ICS is internet connection sharing and
should be disabled/uninstalled is you're not going to use it, which your
aren't. It's in that same Windows Setup tab, Communications section.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" <tduprexATlandmark.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98DBD6DF6EF0Epinger@207.46.248.16...
> Isolated two entries that caused some illegal messages, but not as wild as
> before. I have 17 items now On. I turned off
>
> DK Service which is associated with defragmenter called Diskeeper, file
> name diskeeper.exe
>
> and
>
> ICSDCLT which in is C:\Windows, file name: rundll32.exe arguments:C:
> \Windows\System\ecsdclt.dll.ICSClient.
>
> and now I can boot up repeatedly with no chaffe.
>
>
> Now the only issue is being able to communicate on the internet.
>

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews.RemoveThis@mvps.org> wrote in news:#KvaV0DVHHA.3500
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> Diskkeeper could caused problems. ICS is internet connection sharing and
> should be disabled/uninstalled is you're not going to use it, which your
> aren't. It's in that same Windows Setup tab, Communications section.
>

I've had diskeeper disabled, will most likely uninstall it.
I wasn't sure about ICS since the information I found on it talks about it
being used for computers to communicate at the same time or something.

After starting up several times with both of these diabled and receiving no
illegal operations messages at all, I then turned on ICS, and without
exception I will get and illegal operation message on start up. Would you
know what uninstalls ICS, or should I just leave it turned off?

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

I *think* you uninstall ICS in the same section of Windows Setup tab as
DUN -- Communications. But that may be the one for the machine that's
*providing* ICS, not the client. Also check Add/Remove Programs directly
for ICS Client. ICS is if ONE computer is connected to the internet (via any
mode) and you want the rest of the machines on the network(s) that machine
is connected to to use it's Internet Connection. Since you have a router,
you don't want that. Each machine connects through the router, not through
another machine. Problems may stem from the fact that you used that
previously.

Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never Dial a
Connection, and LAN settings should be Auto-detect.

Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall that
is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All this may have
changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.

Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft Internet
Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then choose Repair
option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced reinstall by choosing
Add Components (same dialogue where Repair option is located.) Put a check
mark in every BOLD item that will let you, then proceed. Unfortunately,
you'll need to have the installation files on hand, sooooo.... If you don't
have them, post back for procedure to get them via your other machines.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" <tduprexATlandmark.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98DC780638EE1pinger@207.46.248.16...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews.TakeThisOut@mvps.org> wrote in news:#KvaV0DVHHA.3500
> @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> Diskkeeper could caused problems. ICS is internet connection sharing and
>> should be disabled/uninstalled is you're not going to use it, which your
>> aren't. It's in that same Windows Setup tab, Communications section.
>>
>
> I've had diskeeper disabled, will most likely uninstall it.
> I wasn't sure about ICS since the information I found on it talks about it
> being used for computers to communicate at the same time or something.
>
> After starting up several times with both of these diabled and receiving
> no
> illegal operations messages at all, I then turned on ICS, and without
> exception I will get and illegal operation message on start up. Would you
> know what uninstalls ICS, or should I just leave it turned off?

T. Duprex · External Since: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 48

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in
news:esxzWfKVHHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
ICS doesn't appear in Add/Remove

> Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never
> Dial a Connection,
It does.

and LAN settings should be Auto-detect. It is.

> Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall
> that is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All
> this may have changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.

I have no firewall. As far as the router setup it is DHCP and is allowing
IP addresses 192.168.1.100 and up. As I sequence differnt computers on
and off, you see the IP addresses change among them. I monitor that with
netscan.exe continually. In fact as I sit here it Netscan on the problem
computer is showing IPs for: the gateway, two computers, the print
server, and the network printer. At any time the troubled computer has
had IP addresses ranging from .100 to .105.
>
> Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft
> Internet Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then
> choose Repair option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced
> reinstall by choosing Add Components

Repaired IE. No change. What is to be gained by a forced reinstall? When
I click Add Components I get an I E Setup small window with an "Error
creating process <.....> The system cannot find the file specified. Guess
i need you to send me the proceedure, please."

Right now I'm thinking of going back via image, to the beginning where I
was able to go out on the network,and verifying that. Then doing a clean
boot, with no network card in, keeping all start up turned off and going
through your procedure again. Shutting down, installing the new network
card (The Airlink 101 which is a realtek adapter). I downloaded a more
recent driver for the card. I just want to ensure that my initial
difficulty in getting the right driver is not the root of the problem.

By the way, I've found yet another driver for the D-Link DFE-530TX. This
one is for Windows98 SE. Its Inf file is found in PC99/Win98SE/
NETDLFET.INF on the driver file. For now I'll pass on unsing the D-Link
adapter. I've wasted enought time on it.

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

Most routers have a firewall built in. Are you sure your's doesn't? Anyway,
I doubt that's the problem.

To get IE, use another machine that can get to tithe internet and go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d...f5-b02b
(TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/6zjbm)

Run the installer stub, select "Minimal or Custom...", then click on
Advanced button. That will offer you a Download-only option. Choose the ones
OS version(s) you want included. Once it's all downloaded, copy the entire
folder named "Windows Update Setup Files" to a CD or two. This is the last
IE for Win9x systems, and you never know when MS will pull it from
Downloads.

Once you have it on CD, use that on your problem system and again choose
"Minimal or Custom" to get to the place where you can check the BOLDED items
for reinstall.

We can HOPE that this fixes things, but I suspect a deeper issue with messed
up DLLs. Only SFC can help, but you have to be very careful with that one.
It will suggest replacements you don't want. Run any suggestions by us,
first, before actually replacing.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" <tduprexATlandmark.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98DD14C106071pinger@207.46.248.16...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews RemoveThis @mvps.org> wrote in
> news:esxzWfKVHHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
> ICS doesn't appear in Add/Remove
>
>
>> Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never
>> Dial a Connection,
> It does.
>
> and LAN settings should be Auto-detect. It is.
>
>> Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall
>> that is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All
>> this may have changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.
>
> I have no firewall. As far as the router setup it is DHCP and is allowing
> IP addresses 192.168.1.100 and up. As I sequence differnt computers on
> and off, you see the IP addresses change among them. I monitor that with
> netscan.exe continually. In fact as I sit here it Netscan on the problem
> computer is showing IPs for: the gateway, two computers, the print
> server, and the network printer. At any time the troubled computer has
> had IP addresses ranging from .100 to .105.
>>
>> Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft
>> Internet Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then
>> choose Repair option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced
>> reinstall by choosing Add Components
>
> Repaired IE. No change. What is to be gained by a forced reinstall? When
> I click Add Components I get an I E Setup small window with an "Error
> creating process <.....> The system cannot find the file specified. Guess
> i need you to send me the proceedure, please."
>
>
> Right now I'm thinking of going back via image, to the beginning where I
> was able to go out on the network,and verifying that. Then doing a clean
> boot, with no network card in, keeping all start up turned off and going
> through your procedure again. Shutting down, installing the new network
> card (The Airlink 101 which is a realtek adapter). I downloaded a more
> recent driver for the card. I just want to ensure that my initial
> difficulty in getting the right driver is not the root of the problem.
>
> By the way, I've found yet another driver for the D-Link DFE-530TX. This
> one is for Windows98 SE. Its Inf file is found in PC99/Win98SE/
> NETDLFET.INF on the driver file. For now I'll pass on unsing the D-Link
> adapter. I've wasted enought time on it.