Daylight Savings Patch

Don/Gen · External Since: Feb 23, 2006 Posts: 12

Gary,

Thanks for all your good work on your Time Zone patch. It worked on both my
Win98se and my old but still running Win95!!! Never a bit of trouble at any
stage of d/l, install and function.

Don

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Feb 28, 2007 Posts: 110

You're welcome. Glad to be of service, though my own preferred solution
would have been a bit more elegant, <s>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Don/Gen" <Donovanhenderson.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote in message
news:euW94oDZHHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
>
> Thanks for all your good work on your Time Zone patch. It worked on both
> my
> Win98se and my old but still running Win95!!! Never a bit of trouble at
> any
> stage of d/l, install and function.
>
> Don
>
>

Fred · External Since: Feb 06, 2007 Posts: 32

Gary
I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't
understand I had to set the time manually.
Fred

"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.RemoveThis@grystnews.com> wrote in message
news:eDP0rlDZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Sorry...
> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
> news:Ov$00qBZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Gary
> > I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it
> > yesterday
> > on both.
> > Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing
> > changed.
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.RemoveThis@grystnews.com> wrote in message
> > news:ejBTewAZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be
> >> properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not
just
> >> that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know
what
> >> time it really is for your locale. Read my article at
> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
> >> news:OH259j$YHHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> > Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change
> > myself
> >> > !
> >> > Fred
> >> >
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.RemoveThis@grystnews.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:uwsTEt4YHHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> You have it correct.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail.RemoveThis@vinces.org> wrote in message
> >> >> news:a6h6v25g4qblc3av9nkv12ekufn8nvf867@4ax.com...
> >> >> > Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be
at
> >> >> > 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the
> >> >> > month
> >> >> > of October. To quote from PCR's master post:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > " United States
> >> >> > Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for
> >> >> > daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy
> >> >> > Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and
> > Canada
> >> >> > will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in
> >> >> > March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > November).
> >> >> > ......EOQ............
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving
time.
> >> >> >> In other words, select 2:00 AM.
> >> >> >> c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day,
> >> >> >> the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you
> >> >> >> want.
> >> >> >> In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click
> >> >> >> February.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > See above quote.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others
> > nor
> >> >> > myself.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Feb 28, 2007 Posts: 110

You shouldn't have had to set the time manually, it's automatic. All I can
say is that if your Time Zone is set to "Eastern (US & Canada)" and your
messages are showing "-0400" then you're in Daylight Saving time. Can't say
what happened to the clock thing, though it's my understanding that people
with several machines to deal with reported that some changed automatically,
and others didn't. Dunno...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
news:eN3Qk5EZHHA.4940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Gary
> I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I
> didn't
> understand I had to set the time manually.
> Fred
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.DeleteThis@grystnews.com> wrote in message
> news:eDP0rlDZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry...
>> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
>> news:Ov$00qBZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > Gary
>> > I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it
>> > yesterday
>> > on both.
>> > Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing
>> > changed.
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.DeleteThis@grystnews.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ejBTewAZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be
>> >> properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not
> just
>> >> that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know
> what
>> >> time it really is for your locale. Read my article at
>> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:OH259j$YHHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change
>> > myself
>> >> > !
>> >> > Fred
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.DeleteThis@grystnews.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:uwsTEt4YHHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> You have it correct.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail.DeleteThis@vinces.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:a6h6v25g4qblc3av9nkv12ekufn8nvf867@4ax.com...
>> >> >> > Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be
> at
>> >> >> > 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the
>> >> >> > month
>> >> >> > of October. To quote from PCR's master post:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > " United States
>> >> >> > Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy
>> >> >> > Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and
>> > Canada
>> >> >> > will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in
>> >> >> > March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first
>> >> >> > Sunday
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > November).
>> >> >> > ......EOQ............
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving
> time.
>> >> >> >> In other words, select 2:00 AM.
>> >> >> >> c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day,
>> >> >> >> the corresponding day of the week, and the month that
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> want.
>> >> >> >> In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click
>> >> >> >> February.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > See above quote.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse
>> >> >> > others
>> > nor
>> >> >> > myself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Henry · External Since: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 27

Don/Gen wrote:
> Gary,
>
> Thanks for all your good work on your Time Zone patch. It worked on both my
> Win98se and my old but still running Win95!!! Never a bit of trouble at any
> stage of d/l, install and function.
>
> Don
>
>
TZedit with Gary's instructions worked perfectly on three of my WinXP
machines and three of my Win98SE machines.

Thanks Gary

Henry

Not My Name · External Since: Dec 06, 2005 Posts: 65

Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you
run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site.

those instructions in my own words:

1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the
clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on
your Desktop.

2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in
the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for
instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US &
Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply.

3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click
Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were
Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone.

4. press OK, and you're done.

NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time
zone. You may have a different time zone than mine.

I hope this helps.

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net>
wrote:

>Gary
>I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I didn't
>understand I had to set the time manually.
>Fred
>
>"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
>news:eDP0rlDZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry...
>> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
>> news:Ov$00qBZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > Gary
>> > I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it
>> > yesterday
>> > on both.
>> > Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing
>> > changed.
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ejBTewAZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone be
>> >> properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not
>just
>> >> that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know
>what
>> >> time it really is for your locale. Read my article at
>> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:OH259j$YHHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to change
>> > myself
>> >> > !
>> >> > Fred
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:uwsTEt4YHHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> You have it correct.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail.TakeThisOut@vinces.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:a6h6v25g4qblc3av9nkv12ekufn8nvf867@4ax.com...
>> >> >> > Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST be
>at
>> >> >> > 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the
>> >> >> > month
>> >> >> > of October. To quote from PCR's master post:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > " United States
>> >> >> > Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates for
>> >> >> > daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the Energy
>> >> >> > Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and
>> > Canada
>> >> >> > will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in
>> >> >> > March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > November).
>> >> >> > ......EOQ............
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving
>time.
>> >> >> >> In other words, select 2:00 AM.
>> >> >> >> c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day,
>> >> >> >> the corresponding day of the week, and the month that you
>> >> >> >> want.
>> >> >> >> In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then click
>> >> >> >> February.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > See above quote.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse others
>> > nor
>> >> >> > myself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

http://www.vdare.com

Tuttle · External Since: Mar 14, 2005 Posts: 25

I also found it confusing. Gary's instructions are so good that they appear
to be complete. It's not intuitively obvious that once all of Gary's steps
have been completed, that the hour must still be manually changed. For
clarity I would suggest adding that as a final step.

I downloaded http://grystmill.com/downloads/TZ_UP_9x.exe and ran it, then
followed Gary's instructions. My clock still showed the time as one hour
earlier than it should be, meaning it was still showing the time prior to
this new change to DST. I was expecting that the time would automatically
change to the correct new DST time, as it used to when Windows handled it.
It's not a problem for me to change it, but I think others will not realize
that there is still a further step required once Gary's steps have been
completed.

Thanks Gary for a helpful piece of work. Smile

"Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail.TakeThisOut@vinces.org> wrote in message
news:5qg9v2l3s1t38ulnirgcdbdhlkudo1tnvp@4ax.com...
> Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you
> run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site.
>
> those instructions in my own words:
>
> 1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the
> clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on
> your Desktop.
>
> 2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in
> the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for
> instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US &
> Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply.
>
> 3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click
> Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were
> Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone.
>
> 4. press OK, and you're done.
>
> NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time
> zone. You may have a different time zone than mine.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Gary
> >I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I
didn't
> >understand I had to set the time manually.
> >Fred
> >
> >"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
> >news:eDP0rlDZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Sorry...
> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
> >> news:Ov$00qBZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> > Gary
> >> > I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it
> >> > yesterday
> >> > on both.
> >> > Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing
> >> > changed.
> >> > Fred
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:ejBTewAZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone
be
> >> >> properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not
> >just
> >> >> that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know
> >what
> >> >> time it really is for your locale. Read my article at
> >> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:OH259j$YHHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to
change
> >> > myself
> >> >> > !
> >> >> > Fred
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:uwsTEt4YHHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> You have it correct.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail.TakeThisOut@vinces.org> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:a6h6v25g4qblc3av9nkv12ekufn8nvf867@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> > Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST
be
> >at
> >> >> >> > 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the
> >> >> >> > month
> >> >> >> > of October. To quote from PCR's master post:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > " United States
> >> >> >> > Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates
for
> >> >> >> > daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the
Energy
> >> >> >> > Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and
> >> > Canada
> >> >> >> > will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday
in
> >> >> >> > March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first
Sunday
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > November).
> >> >> >> > ......EOQ............
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving
> >time.
> >> >> >> >> In other words, select 2:00 AM.
> >> >> >> >> c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day,
> >> >> >> >> the corresponding day of the week, and the month that
you
> >> >> >> >> want.
> >> >> >> >> In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then
click
> >> >> >> >> February.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > See above quote.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse
others
> >> > nor
> >> >> >> > myself.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> http://www.vdare.com

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Feb 28, 2007 Posts: 110

Did you run the patch before the change was supposed to occur, or
afterwards?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Tuttle" <nospamhere DeleteThis @notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote in message
news:uybrLgKZHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I also found it confusing. Gary's instructions are so good that they appear
> to be complete. It's not intuitively obvious that once all of Gary's steps
> have been completed, that the hour must still be manually changed. For
> clarity I would suggest adding that as a final step.
>
> I downloaded http://grystmill.com/downloads/TZ_UP_9x.exe and ran it, then
> followed Gary's instructions. My clock still showed the time as one hour
> earlier than it should be, meaning it was still showing the time prior to
> this new change to DST. I was expecting that the time would automatically
> change to the correct new DST time, as it used to when Windows handled it.
> It's not a problem for me to change it, but I think others will not
> realize
> that there is still a further step required once Gary's steps have been
> completed.
>
> Thanks Gary for a helpful piece of work. Smile

>
>
>
>
> "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail DeleteThis @vinces.org> wrote in message
> news:5qg9v2l3s1t38ulnirgcdbdhlkudo1tnvp@4ax.com...
>> Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you
>> run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site.
>>
>> those instructions in my own words:
>>
>> 1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the
>> clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on
>> your Desktop.
>>
>> 2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in
>> the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for
>> instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US &
>> Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply.
>>
>> 3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click
>> Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were
>> Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone.
>>
>> 4. press OK, and you're done.
>>
>> NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time
>> zone. You may have a different time zone than mine.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Gary
>> >I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I
> didn't
>> >understand I had to set the time manually.
>> >Fred
>> >
>> >"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
>> >news:eDP0rlDZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> Sorry...
>> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:Ov$00qBZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Gary
>> >> > I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it
>> >> > yesterday
>> >> > on both.
>> >> > Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing
>> >> > changed.
>> >> > Fred
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:ejBTewAZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone
> be
>> >> >> properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not
>> >just
>> >> >> that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know
>> >what
>> >> >> time it really is for your locale. Read my article at
>> >> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:OH259j$YHHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to
> change
>> >> > myself
>> >> >> > !
>> >> >> > Fred
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:uwsTEt4YHHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> You have it correct.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail DeleteThis @vinces.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:a6h6v25g4qblc3av9nkv12ekufn8nvf867@4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> > Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST
> be
>> >at
>> >> >> >> > 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > month
>> >> >> >> > of October. To quote from PCR's master post:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > " United States
>> >> >> >> > Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates
> for
>> >> >> >> > daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the
> Energy
>> >> >> >> > Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> > Canada
>> >> >> >> > will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday
> in
>> >> >> >> > March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first
> Sunday
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > November).
>> >> >> >> > ......EOQ............
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving
>> >time.
>> >> >> >> >> In other words, select 2:00 AM.
>> >> >> >> >> c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day,
>> >> >> >> >> the corresponding day of the week, and the month that
> you
>> >> >> >> >> want.
>> >> >> >> >> In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then
> click
>> >> >> >> >> February.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > See above quote.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse
> others
>> >> > nor
>> >> >> >> > myself.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> http://www.vdare.com
>
>

Henry · External Since: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 27

Mine changed automatically. I didn't have to change it manually.

Henry

Tuttle wrote:

> I also found it confusing. Gary's instructions are so good that they appear
> to be complete. It's not intuitively obvious that once all of Gary's steps
> have been completed, that the hour must still be manually changed. For
> clarity I would suggest adding that as a final step.
>
> I downloaded http://grystmill.com/downloads/TZ_UP_9x.exe and ran it, then
> followed Gary's instructions. My clock still showed the time as one hour
> earlier than it should be, meaning it was still showing the time prior to
> this new change to DST. I was expecting that the time would automatically
> change to the correct new DST time, as it used to when Windows handled it.
> It's not a problem for me to change it, but I think others will not realize
> that there is still a further step required once Gary's steps have been
> completed.
>
> Thanks Gary for a helpful piece of work. Smile

>
>
>
>
> "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail RemoveThis @vinces.org> wrote in message
> news:5qg9v2l3s1t38ulnirgcdbdhlkudo1tnvp@4ax.com...
>
>>Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you
>>run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site.
>>
>>those instructions in my own words:
>>
>>1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the
>>clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on
>>your Desktop.
>>
>>2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in
>>the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for
>>instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US &
>>Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply.
>>
>>3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click
>>Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were
>>Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone.
>>
>>4. press OK, and you're done.
>>
>>NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time
>>zone. You may have a different time zone than mine.
>>
>>I hope this helps.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Gary
>>>I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I
>
> didn't
>
>>>understand I had to set the time manually.
>>>Fred
>>>
>>>"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst RemoveThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
>>>news:eDP0rlDZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>Sorry...
>>>>http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Gary S. Terhune
>>>>MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>>"Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:Ov$00qBZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>Gary
>>>>>I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it
>>>>>yesterday
>>>>>on both.
>>>>>Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but nothing
>>>>>changed.
>>>>>Fred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst RemoveThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ejBTewAZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>>What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time Zone
>
> be
>
>>>>>>properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST, not
>>>
>>>just
>>>
>>>>>>that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines know
>>>
>>>what
>>>
>>>>>>time it really is for your locale. Read my article at
>>>>>>http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:OH259j$YHHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to
>
> change
>
>>>>>myself
>>>>>
>>>>>>>!
>>>>>>>Fred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst RemoveThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:uwsTEt4YHHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You have it correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail RemoveThis @vinces.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:a6h6v25g4qblc3av9nkv12ekufn8nvf867@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for DST
>
> be
>
>>>at
>>>
>>>>>>>>>2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read the
>>>>>>>>>month
>>>>>>>>>of October. To quote from PCR's master post:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>" United States
>>>>>>>>>Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end dates
>
> for
>
>>>>>>>>>daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the
>
> Energy
>
>>>>>>>>>Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States and
>>>>>
>>>>>Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday
>
> in
>
>>>>>>>>>March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first
>
> Sunday
>
>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>November).
>>>>>>>>>......EOQ............
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> b. Select the time that you want to start daylight saving
>>>
>>>time.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other words, select 2:00 AM.
>>>>>>>>>> c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day,
>>>>>>>>>> the corresponding day of the week, and the month that
>
> you
>
>>>>>>>>>>want.
>>>>>>>>>> In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then
>
> click
>
>>>>>>>>>>February.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>See above quote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse
>
> others
>
>>>>>nor
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>http://www.vdare.com
>
>
>

Tuttle · External Since: Mar 14, 2005 Posts: 25

I ran the patch today. Normally DST would not take effect until about three
weeks from now, just as it was the U.S. prior to this year. So, the
automated DST change that Windows normally does would not have occurred yet.

This year most of Canada switched to DST early Sunday morning March 11, as
did most of the U.S.

"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
news:OCu7RmLZHHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Did you run the patch before the change was supposed to occur, or
> afterwards?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Tuttle" <nospamhere DeleteThis @notarealaddressnospam.gs> wrote in message
> news:uybrLgKZHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I also found it confusing. Gary's instructions are so good that they
appear
> > to be complete. It's not intuitively obvious that once all of Gary's
steps
> > have been completed, that the hour must still be manually changed. For
> > clarity I would suggest adding that as a final step.
> >
> > I downloaded http://grystmill.com/downloads/TZ_UP_9x.exe and ran it,
then
> > followed Gary's instructions. My clock still showed the time as one hour
> > earlier than it should be, meaning it was still showing the time prior
to
> > this new change to DST. I was expecting that the time would
automatically
> > change to the correct new DST time, as it used to when Windows handled
it.
> > It's not a problem for me to change it, but I think others will not
> > realize
> > that there is still a further step required once Gary's steps have been
> > completed.
> >
> > Thanks Gary for a helpful piece of work. Smile

> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail DeleteThis @vinces.org> wrote in message
> > news:5qg9v2l3s1t38ulnirgcdbdhlkudo1tnvp@4ax.com...
> >> Fred, read the instructions that you must follow immediately after you
> >> run TZ_UP_9X at Gary's site.
> >>
> >> those instructions in my own words:
> >>
> >> 1. after you click on the .exe file above, you must double click the
> >> clock in your System Tray, which is on your lower right hand corner on
> >> your Desktop.
> >>
> >> 2. you then will select a different time zone than your current one in
> >> the Time Zone scroll bar, and then you will click Apply. So, for
> >> instance, if you current Time Zone is (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US &
> >> Canada), select a different one on the list and click Apply.
> >>
> >> 3. you now must reverse back to your current time zone and then click
> >> Apply. To follow with the example above, if your time zone were
> >> Eastern Time (US & Canada, you now switch to this time zone.
> >>
> >> 4. press OK, and you're done.
> >>
> >> NB: the example above with the Eastern time zone is my actual time
> >> zone. You may have a different time zone than mine.
> >>
> >> I hope this helps.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:30:07 -0400, "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Gary
> >> >I guess I thought when I ran the program it made all the changes. I
> > didn't
> >> >understand I had to set the time manually.
> >> >Fred
> >> >
> >> >"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:eDP0rlDZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Sorry...
> >> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:Ov$00qBZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> > I used TZ_UP_9X on two computers, Win98SE and Win98FE. I ran it
> >> >> > yesterday
> >> >> > on both.
> >> >> > Also tried again to day after setting the time correctly but
nothing
> >> >> > changed.
> >> >> > Fred
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:ejBTewAZHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> What time zone are you in, Fred? It's important that your Time
Zone
> > be
> >> >> >> properly set, including whether the current time is Std or DST,
not
> >> >just
> >> >> >> that the clock be correct. That way, people and other machines
know
> >> >what
> >> >> >> time it really is for your locale. Read my article at
> >> >> >> http://grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Fred" <sorry@no can do.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:OH259j$YHHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > Well, for some reason it did not work on my W98SE ??? Had to
> > change
> >> >> > myself
> >> >> >> > !
> >> >> >> > Fred
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:uwsTEt4YHHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> You have it correct.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail DeleteThis @vinces.org> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:a6h6v25g4qblc3av9nkv12ekufn8nvf867@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> >> > Forgive me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the START time for
DST
> > be
> >> >at
> >> >> >> >> > 2:00 am on the second Sunday in March? Also, Nowhere I read
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > month
> >> >> >> >> > of October. To quote from PCR's master post:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > " United States
> >> >> >> >> > Beginning in the spring of 2007, the start dates and end
dates
> > for
> >> >> >> >> > daylight saving time (DST) will change to comply with the
> > Energy
> >> >> >> >> > Policy Act of 2005. DST dates for 2007 in the United States
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> > Canada
> >> >> >> >> > will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second
Sunday
> > in
> >> >> >> >> > March), and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first
> > Sunday
> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> > November).
> >> >> >> >> > ......EOQ............
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> b. Select the time that you want to start daylight
saving
> >> >time.
> >> >> >> >> >> In other words, select 2:00 AM.
> >> >> >> >> >> c. In the Last Day box, click the number of the day,
> >> >> >> >> >> the corresponding day of the week, and the month
that
> > you
> >> >> >> >> >> want.
> >> >> >> >> >> In other words, click Last, click Sunday, and then
> > click
> >> >> >> >> >> February.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > See above quote.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > If I'm wrong, please correct me as I do not want to confuse
> > others
> >> >> > nor
> >> >> >> >> > myself.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> http://www.vdare.com
> >
> >
>
>

Bill in Co. · External Since: Apr 24, 2005 Posts: 570

Gary, I was just curious, did you ever find any problems with that other DST
update that had been posted last year? (from that MSFN web site; it was a
small exe file that included an INF file, but the ID numbers got a bit
confusing, as you recall).

I had used that one, and it worked fine over here, and there was no setup
routine (except after installation, it did force a reboot). But I was just
curious what you had found in that regard.

I'm assuming yours is quite similar, but in yours I think you said you had
to initially change the time zone and then change it back to get it to
stick, and yours saves a backup of the previous settings, which this other
one doesn't. (if my memory is right)

Henry · External Since: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 27

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Did you run the patch before the change was supposed to occur, or
> afterwards?
>
Before

Henry

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Feb 28, 2007 Posts: 110

Don't know what to tell you, Henry, except that the results for people who
had a lot of machines to update were mixed... Some updated the clock at the
right time, others didn't. I never figured out what might be the cause. In
your case, the system properly changed it's Time Zone setting (GMT offset),
but didn't change the clock. Weird.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Henry" <wa0goz.TakeThisOut@arrl.net> wrote in message
news:_cqdnXAQl5k4W2jYnZ2dnUVZ_vXinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>
>> Did you run the patch before the change was supposed to occur, or
>> afterwards?
>>
> Before
>
> Henry

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Feb 28, 2007 Posts: 110

There are a number of unofficial patches out there, and I didn't check them
out. Many are for NT and 2K systems, aimed at sysadmins. Anyway, I have no
comment on any of the others. I did work out a few ways to make it even more
automated, requiring only a reboot, or even not that, but they were too
tricky for "home users", and that's who I was aiming for. I also have yet to
find my oldest MSDN disks with Windows NT4, so I couldn't test the trickier
stuff.

Maybe, if I get bored, I'll work on them some more. Who knows?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:u8PgxmOZHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Gary, I was just curious, did you ever find any problems with that other
> DST
> update that had been posted last year? (from that MSFN web site; it was a
> small exe file that included an INF file, but the ID numbers got a bit
> confusing, as you recall).
>
> I had used that one, and it worked fine over here, and there was no setup
> routine (except after installation, it did force a reboot). But I was
> just
> curious what you had found in that regard.
>
> I'm assuming yours is quite similar, but in yours I think you said you had
> to initially change the time zone and then change it back to get it to
> stick, and yours saves a backup of the previous settings, which this other
> one doesn't. (if my memory is right)
>
>

PCR · External Since: Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 5941

"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
news:eHNpQjDZHHA.688@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| For anyone the law changes for, and for the Israelis and others who
are
| using a different calendar wherein the term "Second Sunday", or "third
| Saturday" are nonsense and thus have to be translated.

Well, I hope for your sake this kind of thing doesn't start happening
every year now-- even just to foreigners! Now that TZEdit alone has
proven to be effective, I may soon run your fix anyhow, just in the
eventuality I need to tote this desktop on my back to Israel, Australia
or Saskatchewan! It has already run well on a friend's machine. Still...

(a) Maybe add some "IF EXIST" or "IF NOT EXIST" to it to avoid the DOS
error messages.

(b) Maybe add an additional line to the instructions that Windows won't
actually adjust the hour even if all other conditions are met-- until a
reboot is done on or after the date of change has arrived. Since he ran
the app a day late, he was thinking it would adjust immediately.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:ugw8HfBZHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
| > news:OiVE4sAZHHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | The updates may or may not affect Mr. Candlin at all. If they do,
then
| > the
| > | date DST ends is just as important as the date it begins. One or
the
| > other
| > | occurs in the spring, one or the other occurs in the fall. By
| > convention, MS
| > | counts the date in effect for various TZ settings as per
(Gregorian)
| > | calendar year, so any changes should be made on or about Jan 1,
each
| > year. I
| > | will be updating my own patch yearly, some time early in the
Holiday
| > season.
| >
| > Every year!? Is that for Mr. Candlin & other up-side-down people
only?
| > Or are you expecting the U.S. to change the law again?
| >
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | news:%238akViAZHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | >I had come to almost believe that up-side-down people like
Candlin
| > may
| > | > legitimately change their dates in October. However, I'm willing
to
| > side
| > | > with Terhune & say you are correct-- that everyone must do it
today!
| > | > Anyhow, TZEdit appears to have worked well for me.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > Should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | > pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net
| > | > "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail.TakeThisOut@vinces.org> wrote in message
| > | > news:53u6v2d87g767kd0kvt69fn8nfegtco7qq@4ax.com...
| > | > | On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:13:39 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
| > | > | <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | >You have it correct.
| > | > |
| > | > | Anyway, it don't matter now.
| > | > |
| > | > | I did use your TZ_UP_9X.EXE immediately after that post.
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks for your response, your Time Zone fix and all for your
| > | > | contributions to this NG.
| > | > |
| > | > | Best of luck.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Feb 28, 2007 Posts: 110

Hold off on installing it, PCR. I've got new/improved versions waiting for
me to update the web pages (and test on 2K and NT4.) Be another day or two.

--

Gary

"PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:O0jMG8mZHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst RemoveThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
> news:eHNpQjDZHHA.688@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | For anyone the law changes for, and for the Israelis and others who
> are
> | using a different calendar wherein the term "Second Sunday", or "third
> | Saturday" are nonsense and thus have to be translated.
>
> Well, I hope for your sake this kind of thing doesn't start happening
> every year now-- even just to foreigners! Now that TZEdit alone has
> proven to be effective, I may soon run your fix anyhow, just in the
> eventuality I need to tote this desktop on my back to Israel, Australia
> or Saskatchewan! It has already run well on a friend's machine. Still...
>
> (a) Maybe add some "IF EXIST" or "IF NOT EXIST" to it to avoid the DOS
> error messages.
>
> (b) Maybe add an additional line to the instructions that Windows won't
> actually adjust the hour even if all other conditions are met-- until a
> reboot is done on or after the date of change has arrived. Since he ran
> the app a day late, he was thinking it would adjust immediately.
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:ugw8HfBZHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst RemoveThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
> | > news:OiVE4sAZHHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | The updates may or may not affect Mr. Candlin at all. If they do,
> then
> | > the
> | > | date DST ends is just as important as the date it begins. One or
> the
> | > other
> | > | occurs in the spring, one or the other occurs in the fall. By
> | > convention, MS
> | > | counts the date in effect for various TZ settings as per
> (Gregorian)
> | > | calendar year, so any changes should be made on or about Jan 1,
> each
> | > year. I
> | > | will be updating my own patch yearly, some time early in the
> Holiday
> | > season.
> | >
> | > Every year!? Is that for Mr. Candlin & other up-side-down people
> only?
> | > Or are you expecting the U.S. to change the law again?
> | >
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | news:%238akViAZHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > | >I had come to almost believe that up-side-down people like
> Candlin
> | > may
> | > | > legitimately change their dates in October. However, I'm willing
> to
> | > side
> | > | > with Terhune & say you are correct-- that everyone must do it
> today!
> | > | > Anyhow, TZEdit appears to have worked well for me.
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > | > PCR
> | > | > pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
> | > | > "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail RemoveThis @vinces.org> wrote in message
> | > | > news:53u6v2d87g767kd0kvt69fn8nfegtco7qq@4ax.com...
> | > | > | On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:13:39 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
> | > | > | <gryst RemoveThis @grystnews.com> wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | >You have it correct.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Anyway, it don't matter now.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | I did use your TZ_UP_9X.EXE immediately after that post.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Thanks for your response, your Time Zone fix and all for your
> | > | > | contributions to this NG.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Best of luck.
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

PCR · External Since: Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 5941

"Henry" <wa0goz DeleteThis @arrl.net> wrote in message
news:_cqdnXAQl5k4W2jYnZ2dnUVZ_vXinZ2d@comcast.com...
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|
| > Did you run the patch before the change was supposed to occur, or
| > afterwards?
| >
| Before

Did you reboot after applying fix? Windows won't actually change the
time-- unless a reboot is done on or after the date of switch.

| Henry

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net

PCR · External Since: Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 5941

"Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
news:uGX9yDoZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Hold off on installing it, PCR. I've got new/improved versions waiting
for
| me to update the web pages (and test on 2K and NT4.) Be another day or
two.

Very well. I'm in no hurry.

| --
|
| Gary
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:O0jMG8mZHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
| > news:eHNpQjDZHHA.688@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | For anyone the law changes for, and for the Israelis and others
who
| > are
| > | using a different calendar wherein the term "Second Sunday", or
"third
| > | Saturday" are nonsense and thus have to be translated.
| >
| > Well, I hope for your sake this kind of thing doesn't start
happening
| > every year now-- even just to foreigners! Now that TZEdit alone has
| > proven to be effective, I may soon run your fix anyhow, just in the
| > eventuality I need to tote this desktop on my back to Israel,
Australia
| > or Saskatchewan! It has already run well on a friend's machine.
Still...
| >
| > (a) Maybe add some "IF EXIST" or "IF NOT EXIST" to it to avoid the
DOS
| > error messages.
| >
| > (b) Maybe add an additional line to the instructions that Windows
won't
| > actually adjust the hour even if all other conditions are met--
until a
| > reboot is done on or after the date of change has arrived. Since he
ran
| > the app a day late, he was thinking it would adjust immediately.
| >
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | news:ugw8HfBZHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:OiVE4sAZHHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | The updates may or may not affect Mr. Candlin at all. If they
do,
| > then
| > | > the
| > | > | date DST ends is just as important as the date it begins. One
or
| > the
| > | > other
| > | > | occurs in the spring, one or the other occurs in the fall. By
| > | > convention, MS
| > | > | counts the date in effect for various TZ settings as per
| > (Gregorian)
| > | > | calendar year, so any changes should be made on or about Jan
1,
| > each
| > | > year. I
| > | > | will be updating my own patch yearly, some time early in the
| > Holiday
| > | > season.
| > | >
| > | > Every year!? Is that for Mr. Candlin & other up-side-down people
| > only?
| > | > Or are you expecting the U.S. to change the law again?
| > | >
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | > | news:%238akViAZHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | >I had come to almost believe that up-side-down people like
| > Candlin
| > | > may
| > | > | > legitimately change their dates in October. However, I'm
willing
| > to
| > | > side
| > | > | > with Terhune & say you are correct-- that everyone must do
it
| > today!
| > | > | > Anyhow, TZEdit appears to have worked well for me.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > | > Should things get worse after this,
| > | > | > PCR
| > | > | > pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net
| > | > | > "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail.TakeThisOut@vinces.org> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:53u6v2d87g767kd0kvt69fn8nfegtco7qq@4ax.com...
| > | > | > | On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:13:39 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
| > | > | > | <gryst.TakeThisOut@grystnews.com> wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >You have it correct.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Anyway, it don't matter now.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I did use your TZ_UP_9X.EXE immediately after that post.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Thanks for your response, your Time Zone fix and all for
your
| > | > | > | contributions to this NG.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Best of luck.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Feb 28, 2007 Posts: 110

It's done now.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eT3ZUJ0ZHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
> news:uGX9yDoZHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Hold off on installing it, PCR. I've got new/improved versions waiting
> for
> | me to update the web pages (and test on 2K and NT4.) Be another day or
> two.
>
> Very well. I'm in no hurry.
>
> | --
> |
> | Gary
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:O0jMG8mZHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
> | > news:eHNpQjDZHHA.688@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | For anyone the law changes for, and for the Israelis and others
> who
> | > are
> | > | using a different calendar wherein the term "Second Sunday", or
> "third
> | > | Saturday" are nonsense and thus have to be translated.
> | >
> | > Well, I hope for your sake this kind of thing doesn't start
> happening
> | > every year now-- even just to foreigners! Now that TZEdit alone has
> | > proven to be effective, I may soon run your fix anyhow, just in the
> | > eventuality I need to tote this desktop on my back to Israel,
> Australia
> | > or Saskatchewan! It has already run well on a friend's machine.
> Still...
> | >
> | > (a) Maybe add some "IF EXIST" or "IF NOT EXIST" to it to avoid the
> DOS
> | > error messages.
> | >
> | > (b) Maybe add an additional line to the instructions that Windows
> won't
> | > actually adjust the hour even if all other conditions are met--
> until a
> | > reboot is done on or after the date of change has arrived. Since he
> ran
> | > the app a day late, he was thinking it would adjust immediately.
> | >
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | news:ugw8HfBZHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:OiVE4sAZHHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | The updates may or may not affect Mr. Candlin at all. If they
> do,
> | > then
> | > | > the
> | > | > | date DST ends is just as important as the date it begins. One
> or
> | > the
> | > | > other
> | > | > | occurs in the spring, one or the other occurs in the fall. By
> | > | > convention, MS
> | > | > | counts the date in effect for various TZ settings as per
> | > (Gregorian)
> | > | > | calendar year, so any changes should be made on or about Jan
> 1,
> | > each
> | > | > year. I
> | > | > | will be updating my own patch yearly, some time early in the
> | > Holiday
> | > | > season.
> | > | >
> | > | > Every year!? Is that for Mr. Candlin & other up-side-down people
> | > only?
> | > | > Or are you expecting the U.S. to change the law again?
> | > | >
> | > | > | --
> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > | > | news:%238akViAZHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | >I had come to almost believe that up-side-down people like
> | > Candlin
> | > | > may
> | > | > | > legitimately change their dates in October. However, I'm
> willing
> | > to
> | > | > side
> | > | > | > with Terhune & say you are correct-- that everyone must do
> it
> | > today!
> | > | > | > Anyhow, TZEdit appears to have worked well for me.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | > | > Should things get worse after this,
> | > | > | > PCR
> | > | > | > pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net
> | > | > | > "Not My Name" <fakedphonyemail DeleteThis @vinces.org> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:53u6v2d87g767kd0kvt69fn8nfegtco7qq@4ax.com...
> | > | > | > | On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:13:39 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
> | > | > | > | <gryst DeleteThis @grystnews.com> wrote:
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | >You have it correct.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Anyway, it don't matter now.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | I did use your TZ_UP_9X.EXE immediately after that post.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Thanks for your response, your Time Zone fix and all for
> your
> | > | > | > | contributions to this NG.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Best of luck.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>