Daylight Savings Patch

tom · External Since: Feb 13, 2007 Posts: 14

Anyone had experience with the patch from:

http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU

That is:

Q931836.exe

Thanks!

I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if
I
can avoid it.

MEB · External Since: Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 952

"tom" <tadamsmar RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| Anyone had experience with the patch from:
|
| http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
|
| That is:
|
| Q931836.exe
|
| Thanks!
|
| I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if
| I
| can avoid it.
|

That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in this forum
via several threads.
To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be related
[or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating] a TZ file for
all versions of Windows, with the various issues related to other areas of
the world [if I remember correctly].

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm

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BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"
http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for
general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________

PCR · External Since: Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 5941

MEB wrote:
| "tom" <tadamsmar.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
|| Anyone had experience with the patch from:
||
|| http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
||
|| That is:
||
|| Q931836.exe
||
|| Thanks!
||
|| I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if
|| I
|| can avoid it.
||
|
| That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in
| this forum via several threads.
| To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be
| related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating]
| a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues
| related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly].
|
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm

Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps
(g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his
..reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one
from...
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
....does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
that one, though, for another reason.

The following is required to do in the USA only...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387
How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007
.......Quote.......
INTRODUCTION
Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by
four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March and
ends on the first Sunday of November.
.......EOQ.........

The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or,
perhaps a bit more clear...

(a) Click TZEDIT.EXE.
It opens with your time zone selected.
(b) Click the Edit button.
(c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March.
(d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November.
(e) Click the OK button.
(f) Click the Close button.
(g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel,
and then double-click Date/Time.
(h) Click the Time Zone tab.
(i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at),
and then click Apply.
(j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK.

"Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect",
the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen.

Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your
personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as
Candlin saw or from...
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/samples/ps/Win98/Reskit/CONFIG/...,
as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking
(although she denies it).

| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
| BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the
| "real world"
| http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion
| group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world
|
| "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
| Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business
| as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
| Or to put it another way:
| Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
| but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue
| one. _______________

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net

MEB · External Since: Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 952

"PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
news:O$GtUqJUHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
| | "tom" <tadamsmar RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
| | news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| || Anyone had experience with the patch from:
| ||
| || http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
| ||
| || That is:
| ||
| || Q931836.exe
| ||
| || Thanks!
| ||
| || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if
| || I
| || can avoid it.
| ||
| |
| | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in
| | this forum via several threads.
| | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be
| | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating]
| | a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues
| | related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly].
| |
| | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
|
| Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps
| (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his
| .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one
| from...
| http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
| ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
| that one, though, for another reason.

Debatable though, but we respect Terhune soo..
<BG>

DANG, I saw cquirke rolled through,,, did he stay to chat or was this the
immaculate desception... grab him quick before he gets away..

|
| The following is required to do in the USA only...
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387
| How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007
| ......Quote.......
| INTRODUCTION
| Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by
| four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March and
| ends on the first Sunday of November.
| ......EOQ.........
|
| The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or,
| perhaps a bit more clear...
|
| (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE.
| It opens with your time zone selected.
| (b) Click the Edit button.
| (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March.
| (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November.
| (e) Click the OK button.
| (f) Click the Close button.
| (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel,
| and then double-click Date/Time.
| (h) Click the Time Zone tab.
| (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at),
| and then click Apply.
| (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK.
|
| "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect",
| the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen.
|
| Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your
| personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as
| Candlin saw or from...
|
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/samples/ps/Win98/Reskit/CONFIG/...,
| as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking
| (although she denies it).
|
| | --
| | MEB
| | _______________
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
|
|

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"
http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for
general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________

tom · External Since: Feb 13, 2007 Posts: 14

On Feb 14, 7:44 pm, "PCR" <pcr....TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote:
> MEB wrote:
> | "tom" <tadams....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> |news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> || Anyone had experience with the patch from:
> ||
> ||http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> ||
> || That is:
> ||
> || Q931836.exe
> ||
> || Thanks!
> ||
> || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if
> || I
> || can avoid it.
> ||
> |
> | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in
> | this forum via several threads.
> | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be
> | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating]
> | a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues
> | related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly].
> |
> |http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>
> Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps
> (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his
> .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one
> from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
> that one, though, for another reason.

Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the
news groups.

I did find one where you pointed out that (g) though (j) should be
run, but no reply from Terhune.

I tested the grystmill patch without running steps (g) through (j) and
it worked. Tested on 98SE by moving the time forward and letting it
pass through 2 AM on March 11, 2007.

So, when does this (g) through (j) issue apply. I have already
applied the patch on a number of systems, I need to know if I should
do the (g) through (j) thing on all systems, some systems, or no
systems.

>
> The following is required to do in the USA only...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387
> How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007
> ......Quote.......
> INTRODUCTION
> Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by
> four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March and
> ends on the first Sunday of November.
> ......EOQ.........
>
> The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or,
> perhaps a bit more clear...
>
> (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE.
> It opens with your time zone selected.
> (b) Click the Edit button.
> (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March.
> (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November.
> (e) Click the OK button.
> (f) Click the Close button.
> (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel,
> and then double-click Date/Time.
> (h) Click the Time Zone tab.
> (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at),
> and then click Apply.
> (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK.
>
> "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect",
> the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen.
>
> Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your
> personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as
> Candlin saw or from...ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/samples/ps/Win98/Reskit/CONFIG/...,
> as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking
> (although she denies it).
>
> | --
> | MEB
> |http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
> | BLOG -http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/Public Notice or the
> | "real world"
> |http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en- discussion
> | group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world
> |
> | "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
> | Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business
> | as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
> | Or to put it another way:
> | Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
> | but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue
> | one. _______________
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcr....TakeThisOut@netzero.net

tom · External Since: Feb 13, 2007 Posts: 14

On Feb 15, 8:47 am, "... et al." <l....TakeThisOut@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid>
wrote:
> tom wrote:
> > "PCR" <pcr....TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> >> MEB wrote:
> >>|http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>
> >>Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps
> >>(g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his
> >>.reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one
> >>from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> >>...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
> >>that one, though, for another reason.
>
> > Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the
> > news groups.
>
> Gary answering 'John John', agreeing he'd forgotten to add something:

> <news:#dTauDmSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>

The above link does not work.

> <http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/...>

That still does not explain if you need to do those steps for 98SE.
It's pretty ambiguous. Are the extra steps needed for some systems,
but not all? I am not sure.

I have a bunch of systems to do, so I would like to avoid extra steps
if possible.

>
> In my 'locale' /they/ haven't changed these self-delusion rules, with
> mucking around with /relative/ time, recently so i have only skimmed
> through the discussions about it.
>
> > I did find one where you pointed out that (g) though (j) should be
> > run, but no reply from Terhune.
>
> > I tested the grystmill patch without running steps (g) through (j) and
> > it worked. Tested on 98SE by moving the time forward and letting it
> > pass through 2 AM on March 11, 2007.
>
> > So, when does this (g) through (j) issue apply. I have already
> > applied the patch on a number of systems, I need to know if I should
> > do the (g) through (j) thing on all systems, some systems, or no
> > systems.
>
> --
> Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.
>
> Please followup in the newsgroup.
> E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

... et al. · External Since: May 06, 2004 Posts: 235

tom wrote:

> "PCR" <pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>> MEB wrote:

>>|http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>>
>>Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps
>>(g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his
>>.reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one
>>from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
>>...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
>>that one, though, for another reason.
>
>
> Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the
> news groups.

Gary answering 'John John', agreeing he'd forgotten to add something:
<news:#dTauDmSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
<http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/b62be55998073a81?hl=en>

In my 'locale' /they/ haven't changed these self-delusion rules, with
mucking around with /relative/ time, recently so i have only skimmed
through the discussions about it.

> I did find one where you pointed out that (g) though (j) should be
> run, but no reply from Terhune.
>
> I tested the grystmill patch without running steps (g) through (j) and
> it worked. Tested on 98SE by moving the time forward and letting it
> pass through 2 AM on March 11, 2007.
>
> So, when does this (g) through (j) issue apply. I have already
> applied the patch on a number of systems, I need to know if I should
> do the (g) through (j) thing on all systems, some systems, or no
> systems.

--
Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.

Please followup in the newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

... et al. · External Since: May 06, 2004 Posts: 235

tom wrote:

> "... et al."wrote:
>
>> tom wrote:
>>
>>> "PCR" <pcr... DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> |http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>>
>>>>Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps
>>>>(g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his
>>>>.reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one
>>>>from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
>>>>...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
>>>>that one, though, for another reason.
>>
>>>Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the
>>>news groups.
>>
>>Gary answering 'John John', agreeing he'd forgotten to add something:
>
>><news:#dTauDmSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>
> The above link does not work.

It's a Universal, well Global, Resource Identifier not limited to
Google. If it works depends on setup (Newsclient & OS) and the retention
of posts at your Newsgroup Service Provider. It is the same thing as
what you found via the next link:

>> <http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/...>
>
> That still does not explain if you need to do those steps for 98SE.
> It's pretty ambiguous. Are the extra steps needed for some systems,
> but not all? I am not sure.
>
> I have a bunch of systems to do, so I would like to avoid extra steps
> if possible.

Understandable.

>> In my 'locale' /they/ haven't changed these self-delusion rules, with
>> mucking around with /relative/ time, recently so i have only skimmed
>> through the discussions about it.

So you'd better wait until the earth turns so that Gary, PCR and the
others 'over there' wakes up and and comes back to you with more
detailed info.

--
Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.

Please followup in the newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

PCR · External Since: Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 5941

MEB wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp.RemoveThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:O$GtUqJUHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|| MEB wrote:
|| | "tom" <tadamsmar.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
|| | news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
|| || Anyone had experience with the patch from:
|| ||
|| || http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
|| ||
|| || That is:
|| ||
|| || Q931836.exe
|| ||
|| || Thanks!
|| ||
|| || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them
|| || manually if I
|| || can avoid it.
|| ||
|| |
|| | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in
|| | this forum via several threads.
|| | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be
|| | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is
|| | modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with
|| | the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I
|| | remember correctly].
|| |
|| | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
||
|| Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that
|| steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after
|| running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks
|| like the one from...
|| http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
|| ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
|| that one, though, for another reason.
|
| Debatable though, but we respect Terhune soo..
| <BG>

Those are my sentiments too. It's Colorado who first discovered the mdgx
site, & it's up to him to get bloody with Terhune-- not us!

| DANG, I saw cquirke rolled through,,, did he stay to chat or was
| this the immaculate desception... grab him quick before he gets away..

I could have used him in a DOS thread or two, but they have dried up
now. Still, it WOULD be nice for someone to grab & hogtie him in a
closet for the next one!

||
|| The following is required to do in the USA only...
||
|| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387
|| How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007
|| ......Quote.......
|| INTRODUCTION
|| Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by
|| four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March
|| and ends on the first Sunday of November.
|| ......EOQ.........
||
|| The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or,
|| perhaps a bit more clear...
||
|| (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE.
|| It opens with your time zone selected.
|| (b) Click the Edit button.
|| (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March.
|| (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November.
|| (e) Click the OK button.
|| (f) Click the Close button.
|| (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel,
|| and then double-click Date/Time.
|| (h) Click the Time Zone tab.
|| (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at),
|| and then click Apply.
|| (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK.
||
|| "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect",
|| the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen.
||
|| Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your
|| personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as
|| Candlin saw or from...
||
|
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/samples/ps/Win98/Reskit/CONFIG/...,
|| as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking
|| (although she denies it).
||
|| | --
|| | MEB
|| | _______________
||
|| --
|| Thanks or Good Luck,
|| There may be humor in this post, and,
|| Naturally, you will not sue,
|| Should things get worse after this,
|| PCR
|| pcrrcp.RemoveThis@netzero.net
||
||
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
| BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the
| "real world"
| http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion
| group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world
|
| "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
| Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business
| as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
| Or to put it another way:
| Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
| but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue
| one. _______________

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp.RemoveThis@netzero.net

Bill in Co. · External Since: Apr 24, 2005 Posts: 570

PCR wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> "PCR" <pcrrcp.RemoveThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> news:O$GtUqJUHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> "tom" <tadamsmar.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Anyone had experience with the patch from:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
>>>>>
>>>>> That is:
>>>>>
>>>>> Q931836.exe
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them
>>>>> manually if I can avoid it.
>>>>
>>>> That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in
>>>> this forum via several threads.
>>>> To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be
>>>> related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is
>>>> modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with
>>>> the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I
>>>> remember correctly].
>>>>
>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
>>>
>>> Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that
>>> steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after
>>> running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks
>>> like the one from...
>>> http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
>>> ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
>>> that one, though, for another reason.
>>
>> Debatable though, but we respect Terhune soo..
>> <BG>
>
> Those are my sentiments too. It's Colorado who first discovered the mdgx
> site, & it's up to him to get bloody with Terhune-- not us!

Well, I'm not waiting - I'm done with it already. I did it months ago,
and as far as I'm concerned, I'm through, and moving on to more pressing
things - like using this new "USB 2.0 External Hard Drive Enclosure" for a
perfect partition copy backup of the boot drive (including ALL the directory
and file dates!), and, what a joy it is, compared to the previous, tedious,
procedure, of having to manually swap in/out the backup IDE hard drive each
time!

PCR · External Since: Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 5941

tom wrote:
| On Feb 14, 7:44 pm, "PCR" <pcr....TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote:
|> MEB wrote:
|> | "tom" <tadams....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
|>
|> |news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
|> || Anyone had experience with the patch from:
|> ||
|> ||http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
|> ||
|> || That is:
|> ||
|> || Q931836.exe
|> ||
|> || Thanks!
|> ||
|> || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them
|> || manually if I
|> || can avoid it.
|> ||
|> |
|> | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in
|> | this forum via several threads.
|> | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be
|> | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is
|> | modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with
|> | the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I
|> | remember correctly].
|> |
|> |http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
|>
|> Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that
|> steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after
|> running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks
|> like the one from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
|> ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
|> that one, though, for another reason.
|
| Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the
| news groups.
|
| I did find one where you pointed out that (g) though (j) should be
| run, but no reply from Terhune.

He may be dangling over the edge of a California earthquake & held up
only by by a toe in a Poodle's mouth. However, he DID shout...

news:%23dTauDmSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
.......Quote...........
Thank you. Forgot to add that info to the instructions.
.......EOQ..............
....., when John John brought up the issue.

| I tested the grystmill patch without running steps (g) through (j) and
| it worked. Tested on 98SE by moving the time forward and letting it
| pass through 2 AM on March 11, 2007.

But did you run the mdgx.com patch too? That one WILL auto-update the
other Registry key from what I can determine reading the site...

http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
.......Quote.........
ALL Windows 95, 98 + ME users: at the end of installing this Unofficial
DST update you MUST confirm your Time Zone selection: when you see
Date/Time Properties you MUST click OK!
.......EOQ............

| So, when does this (g) through (j) issue apply. I have already
| applied the patch on a number of systems, I need to know if I should
| do the (g) through (j) thing on all systems, some systems, or no
| systems.

If you update the time zone with TZEdit, you must do it. Terhune may be
working on a way to have it done automatically like it seems the other
site does. Until then, you must do it after running his .reg too.

|>
|> The following is required to do in the USA only...
|>
|> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387
|> How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007
|> ......Quote.......
|> INTRODUCTION
|> Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by
|> four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March
|> and
|> ends on the first Sunday of November.
|> ......EOQ.........
|>
|> The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or,
|> perhaps a bit more clear...
|>
|> (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE.
|> It opens with your time zone selected.
|> (b) Click the Edit button.
|> (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March.
|> (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November.
|> (e) Click the OK button.
|> (f) Click the Close button.
|> (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel,
|> and then double-click Date/Time.
|> (h) Click the Time Zone tab.
|> (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at),
|> and then click Apply.
|> (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK.
|>
|> "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect",
|> the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen.
|>
|> Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your
|> personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as
|> Candlin saw or
|>
from...ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/samples/ps/Win98/Reskit/
CONFIG/...,
|> as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking
|> (although she denies it).
|>
|> | --
|> | MEB
|> |http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
|> | BLOG -http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/Public Notice or the
|> | "real world"
|> |http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en- discussion
|> | group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world
|> |
|> | "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
|> | Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their
|> | business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
|> | Or to put it another way:
|> | Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
|> | but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue
|> | one. _______________
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcr....TakeThisOut@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net

MEB · External Since: Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 952

Okay, to cut the rest, so it seems at present then we should be recommending
the MDGX fix OR advising the time change requirements after Gary's, i.e., to
something else then back again.

So Tom, sorry, apparently I have directed you to the file/fix which would
require the changing, whereas, the MDGX fix does not require it. Or at least
that's what we are finding here. I should have directed you there.

--
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http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"
http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for
general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________

tom · External Since: Feb 13, 2007 Posts: 14

On Feb 15, 10:40 pm, "PCR" <pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote:
> tom wrote:
>
> | On Feb 14, 7:44 pm, "PCR" <pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote:|> MEB wrote:
>
> |> | "tom" <tadams....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> |>
> |> |news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> |> || Anyone had experience with the patch from:
> |> ||
> |> ||http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> |> ||
> |> || That is:
> |> ||
> |> || Q931836.exe
> |> ||
> |> || Thanks!
> |> ||
> |> || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them
> |> || manually if I
> |> || can avoid it.
> |> ||
> |> |
> |> | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in
> |> | this forum via several threads.
> |> | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be
> |> | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is
> |> | modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with
> |> | the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I
> |> | remember correctly].
> |> |
> |> |http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
> |>
> |> Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that
> |> steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after
> |> running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks
> |> like the one from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> |> ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
> |> that one, though, for another reason.
> |
> | Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the
> | news groups.
> |
> | I did find one where you pointed out that (g) though (j) should be
> | run, but no reply from Terhune.
>
> He may be dangling over the edge of a California earthquake & held up
> only by by a toe in a Poodle's mouth. However, he DID shout...
>
> news:%23dTauDmSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> ......Quote...........
> Thank you. Forgot to add that info to the instructions.
> ......EOQ..............
> ...., when John John brought up the issue.
>
> | I tested the grystmill patch without running steps (g) through (j) and
> | it worked. Tested on 98SE by moving the time forward and letting it
> | pass through 2 AM on March 11, 2007.
>
> But did you run the mdgx.com patch too? That one WILL auto-update the
> other Registry key from what I can determine reading the site...

No, I did not run the mdgx patch.

>
> http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> ......Quote.........
> ALL Windows 95, 98 + ME users: at the end of installing this Unofficial
> DST update you MUST confirm your Time Zone selection: when you see
> Date/Time Properties you MUST click OK!
> ......EOQ............
>
> | So, when does this (g) through (j) issue apply. I have already
> | applied the patch on a number of systems, I need to know if I should
> | do the (g) through (j) thing on all systems, some systems, or no
> | systems.
>
> If you update the time zone with TZEdit, you must do it. Terhune may be
> working on a way to have it done automatically like it seems the other
> site does. Until then, you must do it after running his .reg too.
>
> |>
> |> The following is required to do in the USA only...
> |>
> |>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387
> |> How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007
> |> ......Quote.......
> |> INTRODUCTION
> |> Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by
> |> four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March
> |> and
> |> ends on the first Sunday of November.
> |> ......EOQ.........
> |>
> |> The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or,
> |> perhaps a bit more clear...
> |>
> |> (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE.
> |> It opens with your time zone selected.
> |> (b) Click the Edit button.
> |> (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March.
> |> (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November.
> |> (e) Click the OK button.
> |> (f) Click the Close button.
> |> (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel,
> |> and then double-click Date/Time.
> |> (h) Click the Time Zone tab.
> |> (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at),
> |> and then click Apply.
> |> (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK.
> |>
> |> "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect",
> |> the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen.
> |>
> |> Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your
> |> personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as
> |> Candlin saw or
> |>
> from...ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/samples/ps/Win98/Reskit/
> CONFIG/...,
> |> as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking
> |> (although she denies it).
> |>
> |> | --
> |> | MEB
> |> |http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
> |> | BLOG -http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/PublicNotice or the
> |> | "real world"
> |> |http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en-discussion
> |> | group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world
> |> |
> |> | "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
> |> | Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their
> |> | business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
> |> | Or to put it another way:
> |> | Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
> |> | but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue
> |> | one. _______________
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net

John John · External Since: Jun 05, 2004 Posts: 1937

MEB wrote:

> Okay, to cut the rest, so it seems at present then we should be recommending
> the MDGX fix OR advising the time change requirements after Gary's, i.e., to
> something else then back again.
>
> So Tom, sorry, apparently I have directed you to the file/fix which would
> require the changing, whereas, the MDGX fix does not require it. Or at least
> that's what we are finding here. I should have directed you there.

I don't know what the MDGX fix consists of, they have not released the
code for their fix so I can't comment on it. Gary's fix is fine but for
the fix to function properly users should be instructed to refresh their
time zone setting in the Control Panel. And here is another one to
throw in the mix:
http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2007/02/windows-98-me-dst-patch.html
These guys have released the code for their fix.

John

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

My only complaints with the MDGX patch *were*:

The erroneous naming, suggesting that the patch relates directly to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=929120 when it does not (KB929120 is not
a full update, only applies to Western Australia. In fact I *think* it's
only a W.A applicable patch to the real TZ patch, and *only* really useful
to WinXP/2K3 users.)

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928388 *was* the real TZ patch. Both have
now been supplanted by KB931836 (which I shall be checking on.)

Other than that, I simply wished to provide a backup of the old info before
adding the new, and mine *replaces* the entire Key rather than simply
updating the applicable keys, though at first glance, it looks as if the new
one from MDGX does update every key, not just the affected ones. Dunno, need
more time than I have today to cross-check.

Also, the MDGX patch leaves the XP/2K3 naming convention in place for newly
created sub-keys. All such have "Standard Time" added to the name of the
sub-key, whereas in 9x they do not. Example: What is named "Pacific" in 9x
is named "Pacific Standard Time" in XP. This offends my sensibilities, even
if it doesn't actually cause any problems -- and I don't think it does.

Lastly, I wish to provide a REG file for those who are more comfortable with
such things, rather than a self-executing INF file. I also provide an
in-depth discussion of the whole issue, so PCR doesn't have to use one of
his Master Posts. He can just point to my article, <bg>.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not real.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O8OVBFLUHHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:O$GtUqJUHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | MEB wrote:
> | | "tom" <tadamsmar.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | | news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> | || Anyone had experience with the patch from:
> | ||
> | || http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> | ||
> | || That is:
> | ||
> | || Q931836.exe
> | ||
> | || Thanks!
> | ||
> | || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them manually if
> | || I
> | || can avoid it.
> | ||
> | |
> | | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed in
> | | this forum via several threads.
> | | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may be
> | | related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is modifying/creating]
> | | a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with the various issues
> | | related to other areas of the world [if I remember correctly].
> | |
> | | http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
> |
> | Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that steps
> | (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his
> | .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one
> | from...
> | http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> | ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to
> | that one, though, for another reason.
>
> Debatable though, but we respect Terhune soo..
> <BG>
>
> DANG, I saw cquirke rolled through,,, did he stay to chat or was this the
> immaculate desception... grab him quick before he gets away..
>
> |
> | The following is required to do in the USA only...
> |
> | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387
> | How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007
> | ......Quote.......
> | INTRODUCTION
> | Because of the Energy Policy Act, daylight saving time is extended by
> | four weeks in 2007. This change starts on the second Sunday of March and
> | ends on the first Sunday of November.
> | ......EOQ.........
> |
> | The time has come to follow the instructions in that article, or,
> | perhaps a bit more clear...
> |
> | (a) Click TZEDIT.EXE.
> | It opens with your time zone selected.
> | (b) Click the Edit button.
> | (c) Change the Start Day to... Second, Sunday, March.
> | (d) Change the Last Day to... First, Sunday, November.
> | (e) Click the OK button.
> | (f) Click the Close button.
> | (g) Click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel,
> | and then double-click Date/Time.
> | (h) Click the Time Zone tab.
> | (i) Select a different time zone than (the one you are set at),
> | and then click Apply.
> | (j) Click (back to the one you were set at), and then click OK.
> |
> | "Note Steps i and j are required for the new changes to take effect",
> | the article says, as does TZEdit's own help screen.
> |
> | Do so before March 11, 2007. If you cannot get TZEdit.exe from your
> | personal copy of the Resource Kit, get it from the above article as
> | Candlin saw or from...
> |
> ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/technet/samples/ps/Win98/Reskit/CONFIG/...,
> | as Laura Fredericks did discover, after likely 1/2 ton of clicking
> | (although she denies it).
> |
> | | --
> | | MEB
> | | _______________
> |
> | --
> | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | Should things get worse after this,
> | PCR
> | pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
> |
> |
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
> BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
> world"
> http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group
> for
> general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world
>
> "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
> Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as
> if
> nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
> Or to put it another way:
> Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
> but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
> _______________
>
>

Gary S. Terhune · External Since: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 4357

The MGDX fix is a self-executing archive that simply contains an INF file
that get's run. Easy to extract that INF file using WinZip, then read it in
PT.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"John John" <audetweld.DeleteThis@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:uuz8%23WcUHHA.1636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> MEB wrote:
>
>> Okay, to cut the rest, so it seems at present then we should be
>> recommending
>> the MDGX fix OR advising the time change requirements after Gary's, i.e.,
>> to
>> something else then back again.
>>
>> So Tom, sorry, apparently I have directed you to the file/fix which
>> would
>> require the changing, whereas, the MDGX fix does not require it. Or at
>> least
>> that's what we are finding here. I should have directed you there.
>
> I don't know what the MDGX fix consists of, they have not released the
> code for their fix so I can't comment on it. Gary's fix is fine but for
> the fix to function properly users should be instructed to refresh their
> time zone setting in the Control Panel. And here is another one to throw
> in the mix:
> http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2007/02/windows-98-me-dst-patch.html
> These guys have released the code for their fix.
>
> John
>

John John · External Since: Jun 05, 2004 Posts: 1937

tom wrote:

> On Feb 15, 3:10 pm, John John <audetw... DeleteThis @nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>As I understand it, on Windows 98 the information is stored in these 2
>>registry keys:
>>
>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time Zones
>>
>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation
>>
>>The first key contains the database for _ALL_ time zones. The second
>>key contains the information for the time zone _CURRENTLY_ being used on
>>the computer. The information in this second key was _COPIED_ from the
>>database information stored in the first key _WHEN_ the time zone was
>>set. If the information now is different than when the time zone was
>>set, the information in the second key has to be refreshed to reflect
>>the changes made in the first key, if not the time will not change as
>>expected on the new date.
>
>
> Well, I applied Gary's patch to a 98SE system, did not do any extra
> steps, did not reboot. I set system clock to just before 2AM 3/11/07
> and let it tick past 2AM. The time changed.
>
> My test seems to contradict your assertions as applied to 98SE.

A simple explanation for this, when you reset the clock to just before
2AM 3/11/07 you had to click on "Apply" thus reselecting and reapplying
the Time Zone settings and forcing Windows to copy the new TZ
information from the database key to the ControlSet key. That could
easily be confirmed by comparing the contents of the registry key in
question before and after doing the time change. So, simply put, by
using the clock settings function you have indeed reset the key as
instructed by Microsoft, whether you do it via the Control Panel or via
the Toolbar clock is irrelevant, the end result is that you have reset
the Time Zone settings. If instead of changing the time while in
Windows you would have instead changed the time in the BIOS then booted
to Windows your results would have been different. If you deploy (push)
the fix to machines on a network asking users to readjust their clocks
is not, or might not be, a good method to have the changes applied. As
for home users, many will simply apply fixes and not bother or know to
verify that the patch works, most don't even know what dates to use to
check the changes.

John

MEB · External Since: Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 952

"John John" <audetweld DeleteThis @nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:uuz8%23WcUHHA.1636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| MEB wrote:
|
| > Okay, to cut the rest, so it seems at present then we should be
recommending
| > the MDGX fix OR advising the time change requirements after Gary's,
i.e., to
| > something else then back again.
| >
| > So Tom, sorry, apparently I have directed you to the file/fix which
would
| > require the changing, whereas, the MDGX fix does not require it. Or at
least
| > that's what we are finding here. I should have directed you there.
|
| I don't know what the MDGX fix consists of, they have not released the
| code for their fix so I can't comment on it. Gary's fix is fine but for
| the fix to function properly users should be instructed to refresh their
| time zone setting in the Control Panel. And here is another one to
| throw in the mix:
| http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2007/02/windows-98-me-dst-patch.html
| These guys have released the code for their fix.
|
| John
|

MGDX likely pulled/posted the file from the related forum discussion on
MSFN. Generally they go through/pull apart the creation part within a
discussion related to the files MGDX ends up posting on the site. So if your
really interested in the creation process and/or source, a quick search can
be instructive, as generally found within the related discussion and its
threads.
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?act=idx - MSFN Forums Index

--
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tom · External Since: Feb 13, 2007 Posts: 14

On Feb 16, 2:49 pm, "PCR" <pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote:
> tom wrote:
>
> | On Feb 15, 10:40 pm, "PCR" <pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote:|> tom wrote:
>
> |>
> |> | On Feb 14, 7:44 pm, "PCR" <pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote:|> MEB wrote:
> |>
> |> |> | "tom" <tadams....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> |> |>
> |> |> |news:1171379226.440834.250850@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> |> |> || Anyone had experience with the patch from:
> |> |> ||
> |> |> ||http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> |> |> ||
> |> |> || That is:
> |> |> ||
> |> |> || Q931836.exe
> |> |> ||
> |> |> || Thanks!
> |> |> ||
> |> |> || I have a number of 98 systems and I don't want to do them
> |> |> || manually if I
> |> |> || can avoid it.
> |> |> ||
> |> |> |
> |> |> | That happens to be an update to a TZ "fix" that was discussed
> |> |> | in this forum via several threads.
> |> |> | To combat, or rather address other potential aspects which may
> |> |> | be related [or not] Gary Terhune MVP created [or is
> |> |> | modifying/creating] a TZ file for all versions of Windows, with
> |> |> | the various issues related to other areas of the world [if I
> |> |> | remember correctly].
> |> |> |
> |> |> |http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
> |> |>
> |> |> Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that
> |> |> steps (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after
> |> |> running his .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks
> |> |> like the one from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU
> |> |> ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an
> |> |> objection to that one, though, for another reason.
> |> |
> |> | Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search
> |> | the news groups.
> |> |
> |> | I did find one where you pointed out that (g) though (j) should be
> |> | run, but no reply from Terhune.
> |>
> |> He may be dangling over the edge of a California earthquake & held up
> |> only by by a toe in a Poodle's mouth. However, he DID shout...
> |>
> |>news:%23dTauDmSHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> |> ......Quote...........
> |> Thank you. Forgot to add that info to the instructions.
> |> ......EOQ..............
> |> ...., when John John brought up the issue.
> |>
> |> | I tested the grystmill patch without running steps (g) through (j)
> |> | and it worked. Tested on 98SE by moving the time forward and
> |> | letting it pass through 2 AM on March 11, 2007.
> |>
> |> But did you run the mdgx.com patch too? That one WILL auto-update the
> |> other Registry key from what I can determine reading the site...
> |
> | No, I did not run the mdgx patch.
>
> That's interesting! I see Terhune has stated he will test the issue. Can
> you post the contents of your two keys. Here are mine for "Eastern"...
>
> REGEDIT4
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time
> Zones\Eastern]
> "Display"="(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
> "Dlt"="Eastern Daylight Time"
> "Std"="Eastern Standard Time"
> "MapID"="38,39"
> "TZI"=hex:2c,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,c4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,0b,00,00,00,01,00,02
> ,00,00,\
> 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,02,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
>
> REGEDIT4
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation
> ]
> "ActiveTimeBias"=hex:2c,01,00,00
> "StandardName"="Eastern Standard Time"
> "DaylightName"="Eastern Daylight Time"
> "Bias"=hex:2c,01,00,00
> "StandardBias"=hex:00,00,00,00
> "DaylightBias"=hex:c4,ff,ff,ff
> "StandardStart"=hex:00,00,0b,00,00,00,01,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
> "DaylightStart"=hex:00,00,03,00,00,00,02,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
> "DaylightFlag"=hex:01,00,00,00
>
> Too bad I didn't think to check the second one BEFORE doing the
> Date/Time Properties switch forth/back!
>
> Do you see how these correspond to each other? It's possible the second
> has an important use other than allowing the time change to occur on the
> appropriate date. I wonder too whether something else could have done
> the time change for you when you pushed ahead-- something like NistTime,
> for instance? Were you online when you did it?

I will be happy to check them, but how do I do it? I have never used
regedit or anything like
that (or I don't recall ever doing it) I am not exactly a Windows
guru.

PCR · External Since: Jun 21, 2004 Posts: 5941

Bill in Co. wrote:
| PCR wrote:
....snip
|> Those are my sentiments too. It's Colorado who first discovered the
|> mdgx site, & it's up to him to get bloody with Terhune-- not us!
|
| Well, I'm not waiting - I'm done with it already. I did it months
| ago, and as far as I'm concerned, I'm through, and moving on to more
| pressing things - like using this new "USB 2.0 External Hard Drive
| Enclosure" for a perfect partition copy backup of the boot drive
| (including ALL the directory and file dates!), and, what a joy it is,
| compared to the previous, tedious, procedure, of having to manually
| swap in/out the backup IDE hard drive each time!

I've been meaning to ask about that. Did you need to do a separate
download for the USB 2.0 drivers, or did they come with the device? Did
it install flawlessly & well the first time? Is there any confusion with
drive letters when the thing is turned on/off-- does D:\ change to E:\
for instance? What was the ultimate cost?