CD-R erratically detected

"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

On an elderly PC I help a friend with, where he's copying a lot of his
old LPs to CD, we use burn4free (though I think the problem is not with
burn4free itself).

More often than not, when hitting the "burn" button, it says "please
insert a disc" - even if there's one in. When, by fiddling, ejecting,
closing and reopening b4f, and so on, it finally decides that there _is_
a blank disc in, it does the burn fine.

While looking, it rattles the floppy drive before it "finds" the writer
(from within b4f, that is).

It isn't the _drive_ that's not being detected - that always shows up in
explorer; it's only the fact that there's a blank disc in it that is so
often missed.

Any ideas what's causing it, and what will improve it?
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glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.DeleteThis@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dVY2DGM9971KFwoT@soft255.demon.co.uk...
> On an elderly PC I help a friend with, where he's copying a lot of his
> old LPs to CD, we use burn4free (though I think the problem is not
> with burn4free itself).
>
> More often than not, when hitting the "burn" button, it says "please
> insert a disc" - even if there's one in. When, by fiddling, ejecting,
> closing and reopening b4f, and so on, it finally decides that there
> _is_ a blank disc in, it does the burn fine.
>
> While looking, it rattles the floppy drive before it "finds" the
> writer (from within b4f, that is).
>
> It isn't the _drive_ that's not being detected - that always shows up
> in explorer; it's only the fact that there's a blank disc in it that
> is so often missed.
>
> Any ideas what's causing it, and what will improve it?

Did you try cleaning the lens with an audio cleaning disc?
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thanatoid · External Since: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 355

"glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in
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> "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG DeleteThis @soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote
> in message news:dVY2DGM9971KFwoT@soft255.demon.co.uk...
>> On an elderly PC I help a friend with, where he's copying
>> a lot of his old LPs to CD, we use burn4free (though I
>> think the problem is not with burn4free itself).
>>
>> More often than not, when hitting the "burn" button, it
>> says "please insert a disc" - even if there's one in.
>> When, by fiddling, ejecting, closing and reopening b4f,
>> and so on, it finally decides that there _is_ a blank disc
>> in, it does the burn fine.
>>
>> While looking, it rattles the floppy drive before it
>> "finds" the writer (from within b4f, that is).
>>
>> It isn't the _drive_ that's not being detected - that
>> always shows up in explorer; it's only the fact that
>> there's a blank disc in it that is so often missed.
>>
>> Any ideas what's causing it, and what will improve it?
>
>
> Did you try cleaning the lens with an audio cleaning disc?

You can not be serious.

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RobertVA · External Since: Jan 10, 2007 Posts: 20

thanatoid wrote:
> "glee" <glee29 RemoveThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in
> news:e6RgSggTKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
>> "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG RemoveThis @soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote
>> in message news:dVY2DGM9971KFwoT@soft255.demon.co.uk...
>>> On an elderly PC I help a friend with, where he's copying
>>> a lot of his old LPs to CD, we use burn4free (though I
>>> think the problem is not with burn4free itself).
>>>
>>> More often than not, when hitting the "burn" button, it
>>> says "please insert a disc" - even if there's one in.
>>> When, by fiddling, ejecting, closing and reopening b4f,
>>> and so on, it finally decides that there _is_ a blank disc
>>> in, it does the burn fine.
>>>
>>> While looking, it rattles the floppy drive before it
>>> "finds" the writer (from within b4f, that is).
>>>
>>> It isn't the _drive_ that's not being detected - that
>>> always shows up in explorer; it's only the fact that
>>> there's a blank disc in it that is so often missed.
>>>
>>> Any ideas what's causing it, and what will improve it?
>>
>> Did you try cleaning the lens with an audio cleaning disc?
>
> You can not be serious.

With all the air that cooling fans draw through tower systems? There
might even be contaminates in the air from cooking or tobacco smoking.

"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <uX2WQ$gTKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, RobertVA
<robert_c72athotmail RemoveThis @invalid.com> writes:
>thanatoid wrote:
>> "glee" <glee29 RemoveThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in
>> news:e6RgSggTKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>> "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG RemoveThis @soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>> in message news:dVY2DGM9971KFwoT@soft255.demon.co.uk...
[]
>>>> It isn't the _drive_ that's not being detected - that
>>>> always shows up in explorer; it's only the fact that
>>>> there's a blank disc in it that is so often missed.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas what's causing it, and what will improve it?
>>>
>>> Did you try cleaning the lens with an audio cleaning disc?
>> You can not be serious.
>
>With all the air that cooling fans draw through tower systems? There
>might even be contaminates in the air from cooking or tobacco smoking.

(The PC's in the spare bedroom, and I don't think John or his wife
smoke.) It's not a daft suggestion, which I may try, though I don't
_think_ it is likely to be the problem; if I put a data CD in, Explorer
usually sees it.
--
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outdated thoughts on PCs. **

If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

dadiOH · External Since: Mar 28, 2009 Posts: 11

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> On an elderly PC I help a friend with, where he's copying a lot of his
> old LPs to CD, we use burn4free (though I think the problem is not
> with burn4free itself).
>
> More often than not, when hitting the "burn" button, it says "please
> insert a disc" - even if there's one in. When, by fiddling, ejecting,
> closing and reopening b4f, and so on, it finally decides that there
> _is_ a blank disc in, it does the burn fine.
>
> While looking, it rattles the floppy drive before it "finds" the
> writer (from within b4f, that is).
>
> It isn't the _drive_ that's not being detected - that always shows up
> in explorer; it's only the fact that there's a blank disc in it that
> is so often missed.
>
> Any ideas what's causing it, and what will improve it?

Try a different brand of CD blanks...Taiyo Yuden are among the best.

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philo · External Since: May 02, 2009 Posts: 4

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> On an elderly PC I help a friend with, where he's copying a lot of his
> old LPs to CD, we use burn4free (though I think the problem is not with
> burn4free itself).
>
> More often than not, when hitting the "burn" button, it says "please
> insert a disc" - even if there's one in. When, by fiddling, ejecting,
> closing and reopening b4f, and so on, it finally decides that there _is_
> a blank disc in, it does the burn fine.
>
> While looking, it rattles the floppy drive before it "finds" the writer
> (from within b4f, that is).
>
> It isn't the _drive_ that's not being detected - that always shows up in
> explorer; it's only the fact that there's a blank disc in it that is so
> often missed.
>
> Any ideas what's causing it, and what will improve it?

You said it's an elderly PC so I'm guess the cdrom is also elderly...
probably time for a new one

glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.DeleteThis@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:E4Lg4OQ8mB2KFwxR@soft255.demon.co.uk...
> In message <uX2WQ$gTKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, RobertVA
> <robert_c72athotmail.DeleteThis@invalid.com> writes:
>>thanatoid wrote:
>>> "glee" <glee29.DeleteThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in
>>> news:e6RgSggTKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>>> "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.DeleteThis@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>>> in message news:dVY2DGM9971KFwoT@soft255.demon.co.uk...
> []
>>>>> It isn't the _drive_ that's not being detected - that
>>>>> always shows up in explorer; it's only the fact that
>>>>> there's a blank disc in it that is so often missed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas what's causing it, and what will improve it?
>>>>
>>>> Did you try cleaning the lens with an audio cleaning disc?
>>> You can not be serious.
>>
>>With all the air that cooling fans draw through tower systems? There
>>might even be contaminates in the air from cooking or tobacco smoking.
>
> (The PC's in the spare bedroom, and I don't think John or his wife
> smoke.) It's not a daft suggestion, which I may try, though I don't
> _think_ it is likely to be the problem; if I put a data CD in,
> Explorer usually sees it.

@than: Yes, I was serious....a cleaning disc has helped in almost
identical situations for me in the past, a number of times.

@J.P.: If you really do mean "Explorer usually sees it" rather than
"Explorer always sees it", then a cleaning disc may help.

The suggestion elsewhere in this thread about trying a different brand
of disc is also a good idea, especially if the issue is *only* with
burning discs, not reading them.

It's also possible the drive is just getting old and taking too long to
recognize the blank disc.

Have you tried another burning program?
--
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"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <OFPNLCtTKHA.4360.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, glee
<glee29.RemoveThis@spamindspring.com> writes:
[]
>@than: Yes, I was serious....a cleaning disc has helped in almost
>identical situations for me in the past, a number of times.

I'll certainly try it, then.
>
>@J.P.: If you really do mean "Explorer usually sees it" rather than
>"Explorer always sees it", then a cleaning disc may help.

I think it always sees the drive as present, just not always with
anything in it. Your line of reasoning makes sense.
>
>The suggestion elsewhere in this thread about trying a different brand
>of disc is also a good idea, especially if the issue is *only* with
>burning discs, not reading them.

The first few we did were with cheap unlabelled ones, which were mostly
fine (we had a couple of part-burned ones, but that was I think more a
buffer problem - it is a BURN-proof drive, and the software knows that,
but still; and moving the "temporary files" space for the .mp3-to-wav
conversion to a different partition, combined with reducing the burning
speed, seemed to solve that). I've still got plenty of those, so will
try.
>
>It's also possible the drive is just getting old and taking too long to
>recognize the blank disc.

Possibly. Until he started burning (he's done less than a dozen albums,
I think) he hardly ever used CDs, even for reading (in which case he'd
have probably used the older drive anyway).
>
>Have you tried another burning program?

Initially I used Easy CD Creator - I know a lot of people don't think
much of it, but I was used to it, and it seemed to work fine. (I used
updates, which were necessary for it to recognise the new drive.) After
a complete system rebuild - I forget what prompted that, but it was, I'm
pretty sure, necessary (no point in discussing it, anyway - 'tis done) -
I couldn't get ECDC to recognise the drive, whatever I did, hence the
installation of burn4free. Until the recent problems, _that_ has been
working fine too. I've downloaded burnaware_free, deep_burner, and
microburner, and will try one or all next time I visit John; the trouble
is, I don't know if they allow the temp. files location to be specified
as burn4free does, and there's not really enough space on the C drive.
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** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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eventually reproduce the entire Works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the
Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, computer science
division,
University of California Digital Library Project, 1996 (Computing 1999-12-16)

dadiOH · External Since: Mar 28, 2009 Posts: 11

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

>> The suggestion elsewhere in this thread about trying a different
>> brand of disc is also a good idea, especially if the issue is *only*
>> with burning discs, not reading them.
>
> The first few we did were with cheap unlabelled ones, which were
> mostly fine (we had a couple of part-burned ones, but that was I
> think more a buffer problem - it is a BURN-proof drive, and the
> software knows that, but still; and moving the "temporary files"
> space for the .mp3-to-wav conversion to a different partition,
> combined with reducing the burning speed, seemed to solve that).

A fail-safe method is to just decode the MP3s to wave yourself then burn the
waves. Many programs to do decoding/encoding, CDex is good, easy and free.
http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/

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glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.DeleteThis@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Px$y6$Athc2KFwBQ@soft255.demon.co.uk...
> snip
> Initially I used Easy CD Creator - I know a lot of people don't think
> much of it, but I was used to it, and it seemed to work fine. (I used
> updates, which were necessary for it to recognise the new drive.)
> After a complete system rebuild - I forget what prompted that, but it
> was, I'm pretty sure, necessary (no point in discussing it, anyway -
> 'tis done) - I couldn't get ECDC to recognise the drive, whatever I
> did, hence the installation of burn4free. Until the recent problems,
> _that_ has been working fine too. I've downloaded burnaware_free,
> deep_burner, and microburner, and will try one or all next time I
> visit John; the trouble is, I don't know if they allow the temp. files
> location to be specified as burn4free does, and there's not really
> enough space on the C drive.

Which version of Microburner? I have versions 4.x and 5.x here.
Silentnight Microburner 5.x has a place in its "burner settings" to
choose the temp location. I don't see any way to do it with version
4.x, though.
--
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"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <Oyy1go0TKHA.4592.TakeThisOut@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, dadiOH
<dadiOH.TakeThisOut@invalid.com> writes:
>J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>
>>> The suggestion elsewhere in this thread about trying a different
>>> brand of disc is also a good idea, especially if the issue is *only*
>>> with burning discs, not reading them.
>>
>> The first few we did were with cheap unlabelled ones, which were
>> mostly fine (we had a couple of part-burned ones, but that was I
>> think more a buffer problem - it is a BURN-proof drive, and the
>> software knows that, but still; and moving the "temporary files"
>> space for the .mp3-to-wav conversion to a different partition,
>> combined with reducing the burning speed, seemed to solve that).
>
>A fail-safe method is to just decode the MP3s to wave yourself then burn the
>waves. Many programs to do decoding/encoding, CDex is good, easy and free.
>http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/
>
>
GoldWave (with Lame) too. But (a) that part of Burn4Free seems to have
worked fine anyway, (b) I suspect it (burnfree) would still
intermittently fail to detect there was a blank in the drive, when we
tried to burn the .wavs.
--
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outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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programme, 1980-1-15.)

"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <OOXX8T2TKHA.764 RemoveThis @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, glee
<glee29 RemoveThis @spamindspring.com> writes:
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG RemoveThis @soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:Px$y6$Athc2KFwBQ@soft255.demon.co.uk...
[]
>>visit John; the trouble is, I don't know if they allow the temp. files
>>location to be specified as burn4free does, and there's not really
>>enough space on the C drive.
>
>Which version of Microburner? I have versions 4.x and 5.x here.
>Silentnight Microburner 5.x has a place in its "burner settings" to
>choose the temp location. I don't see any way to do it with version
>4.x, though.

5.0. Under burner settings, I see something called "Temporary ISO folder
placement" under "Direct Copy/Clone Settings", which I presume is
something to do with copying one CD to another. I have wondered whether
it also uses the folder specified for temporary .wav files, but have yet
to find out; if you know that it does, I'll be pleased to try - it looks
a nice piece of software. (And the speech is fun.)
--
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product of true British workmanship. (Lord somethingorother on Robin Day's
programme, 1980-1-15.)

glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.RemoveThis@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ibiZgELYyk2KFwmY@soft255.demon.co.uk...
> In message <OOXX8T2TKHA.764.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, glee
> <glee29.RemoveThis@spamindspring.com> writes:
>>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.RemoveThis@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:Px$y6$Athc2KFwBQ@soft255.demon.co.uk...
> []
>>>visit John; the trouble is, I don't know if they allow the temp.
>>>files location to be specified as burn4free does, and there's not
>>>really enough space on the C drive.
>>
>>Which version of Microburner? I have versions 4.x and 5.x here.
>>Silentnight Microburner 5.x has a place in its "burner settings" to
>>choose the temp location. I don't see any way to do it with version
>>4.x, though.
>
> 5.0. Under burner settings, I see something called "Temporary ISO
> folder placement" under "Direct Copy/Clone Settings", which I presume
> is something to do with copying one CD to another. I have wondered
> whether it also uses the folder specified for temporary .wav files,
> but have yet to find out; if you know that it does, I'll be pleased to
> try - it looks a nice piece of software. (And the speech is fun.)

I haven't used it for music ripping/conversion/etc., so I can't say if
that setting applies to it also. Why not try and find out? It can't
hurt (too much) <eg>
--
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"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <#$uj$J4TKHA.5552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, glee
<glee29.RemoveThis@spamindspring.com> writes:
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.RemoveThis@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:ibiZgELYyk2KFwmY@soft255.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <OOXX8T2TKHA.764.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, glee
>><glee29.RemoveThis@spamindspring.com> writes:
>>>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.RemoveThis@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:Px$y6$Athc2KFwBQ@soft255.demon.co.uk...
>> []
>>>>visit John; the trouble is, I don't know if they allow the temp.
>>>>files location to be specified as burn4free does, and there's not
>>>>really enough space on the C drive.
>>>
>>>Which version of Microburner? I have versions 4.x and 5.x here.
>>>Silentnight Microburner 5.x has a place in its "burner settings" to
>>>choose the temp location. I don't see any way to do it with version
>>>4.x, though.
>>
>> 5.0. Under burner settings, I see something called "Temporary ISO
>>folder placement" under "Direct Copy/Clone Settings", which I presume
>>is something to do with copying one CD to another. I have wondered
>>whether it also uses the folder specified for temporary .wav files,
>>but have yet to find out; if you know that it does, I'll be pleased to
>>try - it looks a nice piece of software. (And the speech is fun.)
>
>I haven't used it for music ripping/conversion/etc., so I can't say if
>that setting applies to it also. Why not try and find out? It can't
>hurt (too much) <eg>

I intend to!
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outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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product of true British workmanship. (Lord somethingorother on Robin Day's
programme, 1980-1-15.)

dadiOH · External Since: Mar 28, 2009 Posts: 11

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <Oyy1go0TKHA.4592.TakeThisOut@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, dadiOH
> <dadiOH.TakeThisOut@invalid.com> writes:
>> J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>
>>>> The suggestion elsewhere in this thread about trying a different
>>>> brand of disc is also a good idea, especially if the issue is
>>>> *only* with burning discs, not reading them.
>>>
>>> The first few we did were with cheap unlabelled ones, which were
>>> mostly fine (we had a couple of part-burned ones, but that was I
>>> think more a buffer problem - it is a BURN-proof drive, and the
>>> software knows that, but still; and moving the "temporary files"
>>> space for the .mp3-to-wav conversion to a different partition,
>>> combined with reducing the burning speed, seemed to solve that).
>>
>> A fail-safe method is to just decode the MP3s to wave yourself then
>> burn the waves. Many programs to do decoding/encoding, CDex is
>> good, easy and free. http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/
>>
>>
> GoldWave (with Lame) too. But (a) that part of Burn4Free seems to have
> worked fine anyway, (b) I suspect it (burnfree) would still
> intermittently fail to detect there was a blank in the drive, when we
> tried to burn the .wavs.

Right. I was suggesting it as an alternative to your previous buffer
problem.

--

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Greg · External Since: Sep 07, 2009 Posts: 18

Here a suggestion if he trying to burn cds. Lower the speed down to
12x (Yes, you have to wait longer, but it is more reliable to have
the data stored correctly). I notice when my burners are going bad,
you can use lower speed for a few months till it quits. My lasted
for about a year.

Greg

"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <OLLz7E#TKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, dadiOH
<dadiOH.DeleteThis@invalid.com> writes:
>J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[]
>>> A fail-safe method is to just decode the MP3s to wave yourself then
>>> burn the waves. Many programs to do decoding/encoding, CDex is
>>> good, easy and free. http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>>
>> GoldWave (with Lame) too. But (a) that part of Burn4Free seems to have
>> worked fine anyway, (b) I suspect it (burnfree) would still
>> intermittently fail to detect there was a blank in the drive, when we
>> tried to burn the .wavs.
>
>Right. I was suggesting it as an alternative to your previous buffer
>problem.
>
Ah, understood, thanks.
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product of true British workmanship. (Lord somethingorother on Robin Day's
programme, 1980-1-15.)

"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <7k1kpgF37o3a5U2.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>, Greg
<invalid.TakeThisOut@invalid.net> writes:
>Here a suggestion if he trying to burn cds. Lower the speed down to
>12x (Yes, you have to wait longer, but it is more reliable to have
>the data stored correctly). I notice when my burners are going bad,
>you can use lower speed for a few months till it quits. My lasted
>for about a year.
>
>
>Greg

We're already using 8x, not because we think there's anything wrong with
the burner, but to reduce the chance of a buffer problem.
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outdated thoughts on PCs. **

At least with a British car, you know that everything that falls off it is a
product of true British workmanship. (Lord somethingorother on Robin Day's
programme, 1980-1-15.)

"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <hbf8r2$c37$1@tioat.net>, S??hW0?ƒ <snuhwolf RemoveThis @netscape.net>
writes:
>Meat Plow wrote:
[]
>>>> I will try the cleaning disc suggestion, but I do think it's a
>>>>system configuration funny: as I mentioned earlier, when burn4free
>>>>is told to do a burn, it accesses the floppy drive before getting
>>>>to the writer.
>>> Then you need to g00gle up the website for that app and look for a support
>>> section, mate.
>> Appears he's got some corruption in his system part of the registry.

That is (the sort of thing I) fear, but wouldn't know how ...
>
>If so tehn he s gotta uninstall it and do surgery on the registyryry to
>remove all the diseased bits.

.... to do that. (The surgery I mean.)
>
>^_^

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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

At least with a British car, you know that everything that falls off it is a
product of true British workmanship. (Lord somethingorother on Robin Day's
programme, 1980-1-15.)