Question for Alan Edwards on using Flash Drive with W98

Larry · External Since: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 215

I see in a thread in early April you said that with a driver installed,
Windows 98 would work with a flash drive.

I had always thought that only W98 Second Edition could work with some flash
drives, but that W98 First Edition would not work any any flash drives at
all. This site which you linked
http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

says that it is possible to do it with First Edition. This is great news.

Is there anything I need to know before downloading the driver at that site
for W98FE and attempting to run a flash drive on the computer (which I want
to use for backup)?

Thanks,
Larry

_____________________

I use this with good results for all my flash drives:
USB Mass Storage Devices In Windows 98:
http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm

On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT), in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Fan924 <a924fan DeleteThis @yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I don't see any flash drives for Win98SE. Can they be made to work?

glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

Not Alan, but I will try to give you some answers to this, as I too have used the
driver you refer to, as well as others.

The driver referenced by Alan has both a Win98FE and a Win98SE version, but the FE
version requires the installation of an unofficial third-party "service pack" that I
prefer *not* to use.

For Win98FE, therefore, I recommend using a different driver, from the Italian web
sitr wintricks.it

It is not installed beforehand like the one Alan mentioned; rather you point to it
when Windows first detects the inserted thumb drive, as you can see from the
pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your flash drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose to have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will see the
..inf file there and install your flash drive.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in message
news:OhqGRg8yJHA.5496@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>
> I see in a thread in early April you said that with a driver installed,
> Windows 98 would work with a flash drive.
>
> I had always thought that only W98 Second Edition could work with some flash
> drives, but that W98 First Edition would not work any any flash drives at
> all. This site which you linked
> http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
>
> says that it is possible to do it with First Edition. This is great news.
>
> Is there anything I need to know before downloading the driver at that site
> for W98FE and attempting to run a flash drive on the computer (which I want
> to use for backup)?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
>
> _____________________
>
> I use this with good results for all my flash drives:
> USB Mass Storage Devices In Windows 98:
> http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
>
> ...Alan
> --
> Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
> http://dts-l.com/index.htm
>
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT), in
> microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Fan924 <a924fan RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I don't see any flash drives for Win98SE. Can they be made to work?
>

Larry · External Since: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 215

Glen,

Thanks, I will check this out.

Larry

"glee" <glee29.DeleteThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:Oa8EwD$yJHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Not Alan, but I will try to give you some answers to this, as I too have
used the
> driver you refer to, as well as others.
>
> The driver referenced by Alan has both a Win98FE and a Win98SE version,
but the FE
> version requires the installation of an unofficial third-party "service
pack" that I
> prefer *not* to use.
>
> For Win98FE, therefore, I recommend using a different driver, from the
Italian web
> sitr wintricks.it
>
> It is not installed beforehand like the one Alan mentioned; rather you
point to it
> when Windows first detects the inserted thumb drive, as you can see from
the
> pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read Italian.
> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
>
> Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some
of the
> pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
> The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
> http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip
>
> Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a
folder
> where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your
flash drive,
> Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose
to have
> it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will
see the
> .inf file there and install your flash drive.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
> news:OhqGRg8yJHA.5496@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> > I see in a thread in early April you said that with a driver installed,
> > Windows 98 would work with a flash drive.
> >
> > I had always thought that only W98 Second Edition could work with some
flash
> > drives, but that W98 First Edition would not work any any flash drives
at
> > all. This site which you linked
> > http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
> >
> > says that it is possible to do it with First Edition. This is great
news.
> >
> > Is there anything I need to know before downloading the driver at that
site
> > for W98FE and attempting to run a flash drive on the computer (which I
want
> > to use for backup)?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Larry
> >
> >
> > _____________________
> >
> > I use this with good results for all my flash drives:
> > USB Mass Storage Devices In Windows 98:
> > http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
> >
> > ...Alan
> > --
> > Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
> > http://dts-l.com/index.htm
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT), in
> > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Fan924 <a924fan.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>I don't see any flash drives for Win98SE. Can they be made to work?
> >
>

glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

The obvious choice for the location to store the downloaded .inf file is in the
hidden Windows\Inf folder, or the Windows\Inf\Other folder. Of course, any folder
will do as long as you can browse to it when loading the driver.

Let us know how it works for you.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote in message
news:u4j$xDAzJHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Glen,
>
> Thanks, I will check this out.
>
> Larry
>
>
> "glee" <glee29.RemoveThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:Oa8EwD$yJHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Not Alan, but I will try to give you some answers to this, as I too have
> used the
>> driver you refer to, as well as others.
>>
>> The driver referenced by Alan has both a Win98FE and a Win98SE version,
> but the FE
>> version requires the installation of an unofficial third-party "service
> pack" that I
>> prefer *not* to use.
>>
>> For Win98FE, therefore, I recommend using a different driver, from the
> Italian web
>> sitr wintricks.it
>>
>> It is not installed beforehand like the one Alan mentioned; rather you
> point to it
>> when Windows first detects the inserted thumb drive, as you can see from
> the
>> pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read Italian.
>> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
>>
>> Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some
> of the
>> pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
>> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
>> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
>> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
>> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
>> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
>> The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
>> http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip
>>
>> Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a
> folder
>> where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your
> flash drive,
>> Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose
> to have
>> it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will
> see the
>> .inf file there and install your flash drive.
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> http://dts-l.net/
>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:OhqGRg8yJHA.5496@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> >
>> > I see in a thread in early April you said that with a driver installed,
>> > Windows 98 would work with a flash drive.
>> >
>> > I had always thought that only W98 Second Edition could work with some
> flash
>> > drives, but that W98 First Edition would not work any any flash drives
> at
>> > all. This site which you linked
>> > http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
>> >
>> > says that it is possible to do it with First Edition. This is great
> news.
>> >
>> > Is there anything I need to know before downloading the driver at that
> site
>> > for W98FE and attempting to run a flash drive on the computer (which I
> want
>> > to use for backup)?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Larry
>> >
>> >
>> > _____________________
>> >
>> > I use this with good results for all my flash drives:
>> > USB Mass Storage Devices In Windows 98:
>> > http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php
>> >
>> > ...Alan
>> > --
>> > Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
>> > http://dts-l.com/index.htm
>> >
>> > On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT), in
>> > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, Fan924 <a924fan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>I don't see any flash drives for Win98SE. Can they be made to work?
>> >
>>
>

Larry · External Since: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 215

Glen,

I've got it installed and working with no problems. Unbelievable.

I thought it was going to be much harder than it turned out to be, because
the author of the program had about six pages of text explaining the driver
(in Italian), but most of it was talking about the need for this driver and
how he had developed it. Also, if you can make out any of the Italian (or
use Babel Fish to tranlate), you can tell he was pretty excited himself when
he got it working:

http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_6.html

The only particular steps that were needed to install other than the usual
clicking through the Wizard, was knowing which boxes to check at one point,
and navigating to the folder where I had put the installation files. The
rest was routine.

I can't thank you enough.

Larry

glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

Thanks for the feedback. It helps others looking for the same solution.
(Now Alan has more time to sit back and relax, too!)

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote in message
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> Glen,
>
> I've got it installed and working with no problems. Unbelievable.
>
> I thought it was going to be much harder than it turned out to be, because
> the author of the program had about six pages of text explaining the driver
> (in Italian), but most of it was talking about the need for this driver and
> how he had developed it. Also, if you can make out any of the Italian (or
> use Babel Fish to tranlate), you can tell he was pretty excited himself when
> he got it working:
>
> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_6.html
>
> The only particular steps that were needed to install other than the usual
> clicking through the Wizard, was knowing which boxes to check at one point,
> and navigating to the folder where I had put the installation files. The
> rest was routine.
>
> I can't thank you enough.
>
> Larry

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

Larry · External Since: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 215

I would just tell people, don't be intimidated by Neddi's (from a Google
search I think his full name is Sergio Neddi) long article in Italian. It's
really just a standard installation, but you do need to follow his screen
shots because at one or two points they give crucial instructions.

His article about the driver is interesting. You can tell he's excited about
having created it. I wish there were a better translation of it into English
than the Babel Fish version I generated.

I wanted to write to him and thank him but there didn't seem to be any way
to do that.

I can't get over the novelty and convenience of having a four gig flash
drive working on my ancient Windows 98 Desktop.

Larry

"glee" <glee29 RemoveThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the feedback. It helps others looking for the same solution.
> (Now Alan has more time to sit back and relax, too!)

glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

Well, he is on Facebook if you belong to that, you can contact him and say thanks, I
suppose:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sergio-Neddi/1561929408

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
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>
> I would just tell people, don't be intimidated by Neddi's (from a Google
> search I think his full name is Sergio Neddi) long article in Italian. It's
> really just a standard installation, but you do need to follow his screen
> shots because at one or two points they give crucial instructions.
>
> His article about the driver is interesting. You can tell he's excited about
> having created it. I wish there were a better translation of it into English
> than the Babel Fish version I generated.
>
> I wanted to write to him and thank him but there didn't seem to be any way
> to do that.
>
> I can't get over the novelty and convenience of having a four gig flash
> drive working on my ancient Windows 98 Desktop.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> "glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:uVqFwhGzJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the feedback. It helps others looking for the same solution.
>> (Now Alan has more time to sit back and relax, too!)
>
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

Alan Edwards · External Since: Apr 25, 2004 Posts: 5109

Thanks glen. I will.
(Just arrived home)

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
http://dts-l.com/index.htm

On Sun, 3 May 2009 23:28:51 -0400, in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "glee"
<glee29.TakeThisOut@spamindspring.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the feedback. It helps others looking for the same solution.
>(Now Alan has more time to sit back and relax, too!)
>
>
>"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote in message
>news:upGYm9EzJHA.6004@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Glen,
>>
>> I've got it installed and working with no problems. Unbelievable.
>>
>> I thought it was going to be much harder than it turned out to be, because
>> the author of the program had about six pages of text explaining the driver
>> (in Italian), but most of it was talking about the need for this driver and
>> how he had developed it. Also, if you can make out any of the Italian (or
>> use Babel Fish to tranlate), you can tell he was pretty excited himself when
>> he got it working:
>>
>> http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_6.html
>>
>> The only particular steps that were needed to install other than the usual
>> clicking through the Wizard, was knowing which boxes to check at one point,
>> and navigating to the folder where I had put the installation files. The
>> rest was routine.
>>
>> I can't thank you enough.
>>
>> Larry

"J. P. Gilliver · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 44

In message <#anCDNAzJHA.1092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, glee
<glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> writes:
>The obvious choice for the location to store the downloaded .inf file
>is in the hidden Windows\Inf folder, or the Windows\Inf\Other folder.
>Of course, any folder will do as long as you can browse to it when
>loading the driver.
>
>Let us know how it works for you.

(This is the Italian USB drivers.)

Does your above advice mean that the .zip file contains _only_ .inf
files? (I know you didn't actually say that.)
--
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** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Nothing worse could happen to one than to be completely understood. -Carl Gustav
Jung, psychiatrist (1875-1961)

glee1 · External Since: Dec 15, 2003 Posts: 3749

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG.TakeThisOut@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Kx$bO$d6xTAKFwBA@soft255.demon.co.uk...
> In message <#anCDNAzJHA.1092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, glee
> <glee29.TakeThisOut@spamindspring.com> writes:
>>The obvious choice for the location to store the downloaded .inf file is in the
>>hidden Windows\Inf folder, or the Windows\Inf\Other folder. Of course, any folder
>>will do as long as you can browse to it when loading the driver.
>>
>>Let us know how it works for you.
>
> (This is the Italian USB drivers.)
>
> Does your above advice mean that the .zip file contains _only_ .inf files? (I know
> you didn't actually say that.)

Hi John,

No, there are 5 files...an INF, PDR, SYS, TXT and an uninstall.bat
So, on second thought, it is probably better to extract them all to one storage
directory you can easily find. Although you can use the Windows\Inf directory, it
might not be the best choice.

Thanks for bringing that up.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm