urgent, re: edison cutting power

Dallas · External Since: Apr 10, 2009 Posts: 7

i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing maintenance of
the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00 5:00. now as long as the pc
is off, are there any probl;ems ahead ? i doubt it, but want to make sure.

thanks very much ia

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Shenan Stanley · External Since: Mar 03, 2005 Posts: 7789

Dallas wrote:
> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
> i doubt it, but want to make sure.

What?

Since most are unlikely to live where you do...

Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a Universal
Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR) technology) for your
electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to unplug from the wall any
electronic equipment that is important to you and not plug it back in until
you know the maintenance is over with and the power should stay consistent.

Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each of your
sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any computer equipment,
etc). Some equipment may not be able to utilize the battery-backed up
side - but those types of equipment should be fine plugged in elsewhere
(some printers have trouble in this way.)

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Dallas · External Since: Apr 10, 2009 Posts: 7

thanks so much shenan, but since i forgot, it's too late for the stuff other
than the ups - i do have the ups hooked up, but i didn't think it would last
for 7 hours

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> Dallas wrote:
>> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
>> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
>> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
>> i doubt it, but want to make sure.
>
> What?
>
> Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
>
> Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
> Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
> technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to unplug
> from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to you and not
> plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over with and the power
> should stay consistent.
>
> Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each of your
> sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any computer
> equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to utilize the
> battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should be fine
> plugged in elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

Shenan Stanley · External Since: Mar 03, 2005 Posts: 7789

Dallas wrote:
> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
> i doubt it, but want to make sure.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> What?
>
> Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
>
> Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
> Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
> technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to
> unplug from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to
> you and not plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over
> with and the power should stay consistent.
> Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each
> of your sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any
> computer equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to
> utilize the battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should
> be fine plugged in
> elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)

Dallas wrote:
> thanks so much shenan, but since i forgot, it's too late for the
> stuff other than the ups - i do have the ups hooked up, but i
> didn't think it would last for 7 hours

The purpose of consumer UPS is not to keep a home user up and going for long
periods of time - but long enough to properly shut down.

I was not implying you should have UPSes to keep things up - but because a
UPS with AVR technology will provide your equipment with cleaner power and
have a better response time to surges/brownouts than a plain surge protector
(which is often nothing more than a mechanical device - a fuse - which
prevents "too much" of the surge from getting to your equipment) - better
protect your equipment from the unexpected outages.

In other words - your equipment is better served with something like a UPS
with AVR than cheap surge protection alone for unexpected outages and if you
know power will be out and suddenly turned back on at some point - it's best
to plan for that accordingly and unplug valuable devices so there is no
danger of a surge at all to said equipment. Something not plugged into a
wall outlet is 99.99999...% less likely affected by such things than
something plugged into the wall outlet. Wink

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Dallas · External Since: Apr 10, 2009 Posts: 7

agaion thanks shenan so are you saying i should power down the pc, then
unplug the ups ? i have already done the other devices not pc related.

sorry as i am kinds out of it

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> Dallas wrote:
>> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
>> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
>> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
>> i doubt it, but want to make sure.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> What?
>>
>> Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
>>
>> Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
>> Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
>> technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to
>> unplug from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to
>> you and not plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over
>> with and the power should stay consistent.
>> Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each
>> of your sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any
>> computer equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to
>> utilize the battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should
>> be fine plugged in
>> elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)
>
>
> Dallas wrote:
>> thanks so much shenan, but since i forgot, it's too late for the
>> stuff other than the ups - i do have the ups hooked up, but i
>> didn't think it would last for 7 hours
>
> The purpose of consumer UPS is not to keep a home user up and going for
> long periods of time - but long enough to properly shut down.
>
> I was not implying you should have UPSes to keep things up - but because a
> UPS with AVR technology will provide your equipment with cleaner power and
> have a better response time to surges/brownouts than a plain surge
> protector (which is often nothing more than a mechanical device - a fuse -
> which prevents "too much" of the surge from getting to your equipment) -
> better protect your equipment from the unexpected outages.
>
> In other words - your equipment is better served with something like a UPS
> with AVR than cheap surge protection alone for unexpected outages and if
> you know power will be out and suddenly turned back on at some point -
> it's best to plan for that accordingly and unplug valuable devices so
> there is no danger of a surge at all to said equipment. Something not
> plugged into a wall outlet is 99.99999...% less likely affected by such
> things than something plugged into the wall outlet. Wink

>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

Shenan Stanley · External Since: Mar 03, 2005 Posts: 7789

Dallas wrote:
> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
> i doubt it, but want to make sure.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> What?
>
> Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
>
> Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
> Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
> technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to
> unplug from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to
> you and not plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over
> with and the power should stay consistent.
> Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each
> of your sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any
> computer equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to
> utilize the battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should
> be fine plugged in
> elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)

Dallas wrote:
> thanks so much shenan, but since i forgot, it's too late for the
> stuff other than the ups - i do have the ups hooked up, but i
> didn't think it would last for 7 hours

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> The purpose of consumer UPS is not to keep a home user up and going
> for long periods of time - but long enough to properly shut down.
>
> I was not implying you should have UPSes to keep things up - but
> because a UPS with AVR technology will provide your equipment with
> cleaner power and have a better response time to surges/brownouts
> than a plain surge protector (which is often nothing more than a
> mechanical device - a fuse - which prevents "too much" of the surge
> from getting to your equipment) - better protect your equipment
> from the unexpected outages.
> In other words - your equipment is better served with something
> like a UPS with AVR than cheap surge protection alone for
> unexpected outages and if you know power will be out and suddenly
> turned back on at some point - it's best to plan for that
> accordingly and unplug valuable devices so there is no danger of a
> surge at all to said equipment. Something not plugged into a wall
> outlet is 99.99999...% less likely affected by such things than
> something plugged into the wall outlet. Wink

Dallas wrote:
> agaion thanks shenan so are you saying i should power down the pc,
> then unplug the ups ? i have already done the other devices not pc
> related.
> sorry as i am kinds out of it

If I was in your position, I would power down the computer, unplug and turn
off the UPS until the power was restored. I would do the same for any
network devices connected to the computer (router, modem, etc) as I see no
reason to chance their frying either.

While some may argue that with today's modern power distribution systems,
etc - you are fairly safe leaving it plugged in (and are likely correct) -
there is certainly no one who could argue they are less safe from electrical
surges powered down and unplugged. Wink

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Dallas · External Since: Apr 10, 2009 Posts: 7

great & thanks so much - sorry to have bothered you, but again, very much
appreciated.

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> Dallas wrote:
>> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
>> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
>> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
>> i doubt it, but want to make sure.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> What?
>>
>> Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
>>
>> Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
>> Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
>> technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to
>> unplug from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to
>> you and not plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over
>> with and the power should stay consistent.
>> Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each
>> of your sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any
>> computer equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to
>> utilize the battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should
>> be fine plugged in
>> elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)
>
> Dallas wrote:
>> thanks so much shenan, but since i forgot, it's too late for the
>> stuff other than the ups - i do have the ups hooked up, but i
>> didn't think it would last for 7 hours
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> The purpose of consumer UPS is not to keep a home user up and going
>> for long periods of time - but long enough to properly shut down.
>>
>> I was not implying you should have UPSes to keep things up - but
>> because a UPS with AVR technology will provide your equipment with
>> cleaner power and have a better response time to surges/brownouts
>> than a plain surge protector (which is often nothing more than a
>> mechanical device - a fuse - which prevents "too much" of the surge
>> from getting to your equipment) - better protect your equipment
>> from the unexpected outages.
>> In other words - your equipment is better served with something
>> like a UPS with AVR than cheap surge protection alone for
>> unexpected outages and if you know power will be out and suddenly
>> turned back on at some point - it's best to plan for that
>> accordingly and unplug valuable devices so there is no danger of a
>> surge at all to said equipment. Something not plugged into a wall
>> outlet is 99.99999...% less likely affected by such things than
>> something plugged into the wall outlet. Wink

>
> Dallas wrote:
>> agaion thanks shenan so are you saying i should power down the pc,
>> then unplug the ups ? i have already done the other devices not pc
>> related.
>> sorry as i am kinds out of it
>
> If I was in your position, I would power down the computer, unplug and
> turn off the UPS until the power was restored. I would do the same for
> any network devices connected to the computer (router, modem, etc) as I
> see no reason to chance their frying either.
>
> While some may argue that with today's modern power distribution systems,
> etc - you are fairly safe leaving it plugged in (and are likely correct) -
> there is certainly no one who could argue they are less safe from
> electrical surges powered down and unplugged. Wink

>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

Steve Hayes · External Since: Jun 09, 2005 Posts: 16

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:15:36 -0700, "Dallas" <Jagged Edge@StillIStruggle>
wrote:

>i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing maintenance of
>the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00 5:00. now as long as the pc
>is off, are there any probl;ems ahead ? i doubt it, but want to make sure.
>
> thanks very much ia

If you're working on anything important on your computer, save frequently.

If you're not working on anything important, shut down and unplug the computer
until the power is back and stable. There are sometimes surges when they
switch back on.

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Dallas · External Since: Apr 10, 2009 Posts: 7

steve, thanks & that's what i did & i had not really been on much this past
month or so, but i wanted to be sure in the [process, as shenan also
explained.

again , thanks

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> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:15:36 -0700, "Dallas" <Jagged Edge@StillIStruggle>
> wrote:
>
>>i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing maintenance of
>>the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00 5:00. now as long as the
>>pc
>>is off, are there any probl;ems ahead ? i doubt it, but want to make sure.
>>
>> thanks very much ia
>
> If you're working on anything important on your computer, save frequently.
>
> If you're not working on anything important, shut down and unplug the
> computer
> until the power is back and stable. There are sometimes surges when they
> switch back on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
> Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
> Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
> E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop
> uk

Jerry · External Since: Feb 14, 2009 Posts: 3

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dallas wrote:
>> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
>> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
>> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
>> i doubt it, but want to make sure.
>
> What?
>
> Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
>
> Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
> Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
> technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to unplug
> from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to you and not
> plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over with and the power
> should stay consistent.
>
> Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each of your
> sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any computer
> equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to utilize the
> battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should be fine
> plugged in elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

A UPS is a Uninterruptible Power System, I've never heard of a Universal
Power Supply, please explain and supply a link to one.

Tom Willett · External Since: Jun 15, 2009 Posts: 16

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=universal+power+supply&aq=2&a...g10&oq=

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: "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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: > Dallas wrote:
: >> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
: >> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
: >> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
: >> i doubt it, but want to make sure.
: >
: > What?
: >
: > Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
: >
: > Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
: > Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
: > technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to
unplug
: > from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to you and not
: > plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over with and the
power
: > should stay consistent.
: >
: > Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each of
your
: > sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any computer
: > equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to utilize the
: > battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should be fine
: > plugged in elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)
: >
: > --
: > Shenan Stanley
: > MS-MVP
: > --
: > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
:
: A UPS is a Uninterruptible Power System, I've never heard of a Universal
: Power Supply, please explain and supply a link to one.
:
:

Unknown · External Since: Apr 29, 2007 Posts: 391

He mis-spoke.
"Jerry" <Hello RemoveThis @spammers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DN5etGUKHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Dallas wrote:
>>> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
>>> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
>>> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
>>> i doubt it, but want to make sure.
>>
>> What?
>>
>> Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
>>
>> Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
>> Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
>> technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to unplug
>> from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to you and not
>> plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over with and the power
>> should stay consistent.
>>
>> Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each of your
>> sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any computer
>> equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to utilize the
>> battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should be fine
>> plugged in elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> A UPS is a Uninterruptible Power System, I've never heard of a Universal
> Power Supply, please explain and supply a link to one.
>

Shenan Stanley · External Since: Mar 03, 2005 Posts: 7789

Unknown wrote:
> He mis-spoke.

Yes, yes I did. My bad.

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Jerry · External Since: Feb 14, 2009 Posts: 3

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> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=universal+power+supply&aq=2&a...g10&oq=
>
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> : news:%23DN5etGUKHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > Dallas wrote:
> : >> i jusat rememberd, less than 2 hours away from edison doing
> : >> maintenance of the neighborhood - power will be off from 10:00
> : >> 5:00. now as long as the pc is off, are there any problems ahead ?
> : >> i doubt it, but want to make sure.
> : >
> : > What?
> : >
> : > Since most are unlikely to live where you do...
> : >
> : > Anyway - whether or not you have surge protection (best would be a
> : > Universal Power Supply (UPS) with Auto Voltage Regulation (AVR)
> : > technology) for your electronics and/or home - my suggestion is to
> unplug
> : > from the wall any electronic equipment that is important to you and
> not
> : > plug it back in until you know the maintenance is over with and the
> power
> : > should stay consistent.
> : >
> : > Also - I would suggest getting a UPS with AVR technology for each of
> your
> : > sensitive/expensive electronic devices (Televisions, any computer
> : > equipment, etc). Some equipment may not be able to utilize the
> : > battery-backed up side - but those types of equipment should be fine
> : > plugged in elsewhere (some printers have trouble in this way.)
> : >
> : > --
> : > Shenan Stanley
> : > MS-MVP
> : > --
> : > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> : > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> :
> : A UPS is a Uninterruptible Power System, I've never heard of a Universal
> : Power Supply, please explain and supply a link to one.

Please don't top post and break the continuity of the post. You obviously
didn't look at the results of that google search and my comment wasn't sent
to you.

Tom Willett · External Since: Jun 15, 2009 Posts: 16

This is a public newsgroup where anyone can respond.
And, I'll top post all I want you hooplehead net nanny.

: Please don't top post and break the continuity of the post. You obviously
: didn't look at the results of that google search and my comment wasn't
sent
: to you.
:
: