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Glenn Mulno
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh
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Until very recently, whenever I added or removed a file from a directory
using Windows Explorer, the current directory (on the right side, files, not
sure about folders) would refresh so that I could see the change.

For example, added some files? They would show right away (perhaps at the
bottom). Deleted/moved files? They would disappear right away.

Recently however, if I do either of the above the change is not visible
unless I hit F5 (refresh). This is annoying as I used to move some files
off of a read only server to a writable directory and then by default just
hit return to open them. Now, I have to refresh the screen, select on the
file and then open it.

Any idea if there is a setting for this somewhere?

I am not sure if this has been doing this since I got the new laptop (a few
weeks back) of if it started shortly after.

Thanks!

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Wesley Vogel
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Read the instructions at the top
157. Prevent Automatic Folder and Icon Refresh - Enable
Click on Enable

enableiconrefresh.reg is the file that you want.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Glenn Mulno hunted and pecked:
> Until very recently, whenever I added or removed a file from a directory
> using Windows Explorer, the current directory (on the right side, files,
> not sure about folders) would refresh so that I could see the change.
>
> For example, added some files? They would show right away (perhaps at the
> bottom). Deleted/moved files? They would disappear right away.
>
> Recently however, if I do either of the above the change is not visible
> unless I hit F5 (refresh). This is annoying as I used to move some files
> off of a read only server to a writable directory and then by default just
> hit return to open them. Now, I have to refresh the screen, select on the
> file and then open it.
>
> Any idea if there is a setting for this somewhere?
>
> I am not sure if this has been doing this since I got the new laptop (a
> few weeks back) of if it started shortly after.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Glenn
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Glenn Mulno
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks Wesley. Unfortunately that did not solve the issue I am having
(unless I am supposed to restart the pc? I have not yet done that).

Thanks again!

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Glenn


"Wesley Vogel" wrote in message

> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>
> Read the instructions at the top
> 157. Prevent Automatic Folder and Icon Refresh - Enable
> Click on Enable
>
> enableiconrefresh.reg is the file that you want.
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:OoraRTHbHHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> Glenn Mulno hunted and pecked:
>> Until very recently, whenever I added or removed a file from a directory
>> using Windows Explorer, the current directory (on the right side, files,
>> not sure about folders) would refresh so that I could see the change.
>>
>> For example, added some files? They would show right away (perhaps at
>> the
>> bottom). Deleted/moved files? They would disappear right away.
>>
>> Recently however, if I do either of the above the change is not visible
>> unless I hit F5 (refresh). This is annoying as I used to move some files
>> off of a read only server to a writable directory and then by default
>> just
>> hit return to open them. Now, I have to refresh the screen, select on
>> the
>> file and then open it.
>>
>> Any idea if there is a setting for this somewhere?
>>
>> I am not sure if this has been doing this since I got the new laptop (a
>> few weeks back) of if it started shortly after.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Glenn
>
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Peter Ogden
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Since: May 27, 2007
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>file_system, others (more info?)

I have the same problem. I found this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823291, but it didn't fix my problem, though
maybe it'll help you?

Anyone got another solution?


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- Peter Ogden

"Glenn Mulno" wrote in message

> Until very recently, whenever I added or removed a file from a directory
> using Windows Explorer, the current directory (on the right side, files,
> not sure about folders) would refresh so that I could see the change.
>
> For example, added some files? They would show right away (perhaps at the
> bottom). Deleted/moved files? They would disappear right away.
>
> Recently however, if I do either of the above the change is not visible
> unless I hit F5 (refresh). This is annoying as I used to move some files
> off of a read only server to a writable directory and then by default just
> hit return to open them. Now, I have to refresh the screen, select on the
> file and then open it.
>
> Any idea if there is a setting for this somewhere?
>
> I am not sure if this has been doing this since I got the new laptop (a
> few weeks back) of if it started shortly after.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Glenn
>
>
>
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Glenn Mulno
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Since: Jul 18, 2005
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Peter Ogden" wrote in message

>I have the same problem. I found this:
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823291, but it didn't fix my problem,
>though maybe it'll help you?
>
> Anyone got another solution?

Hi Peter,

I have had the latest version of service pack so that was not my issue
either.

However - I was able to piece together a variety of fixes based on the
recommendation from Wesley earlier and another web search.

I created a .reg file with the following contents:
***BEGIN FILE
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update]

"UpdateMode"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

"NoNetCrawling"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]

"Max Cached Icons"="12000"

***END FILE



Running this registry file fixed the issue for me and some others in my
company who had the same issue.



Good luck.

Glenn
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Wesley Vogel
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Posts: 17940



PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Glenn,

> I created a .reg file with the following contents:

Copied from Kelly's Korner no doubt. Wink

157. Prevent Automatic Folder and Icon Refresh - Enable
enableiconrefresh.reg

199. Enable Folder and Icon Refresh
disablerefreshundo.reg
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

UpdateMode and NoNetCrawling have nothing to do with refreshing folders as
near as I can tell. They may affect refresh, but I do not see how.
NoNetCrawling may free some things up if disabled.

HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update\UpdateMode has to do with
Windows NT 4.0 System Policies.

UpdateMode
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/29985.mspx?mfr=true

<quote>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update

Remote Update:
Category: Network
Subcategory: System Policies update
Selection: Remote update

Description: Controls how policies are applied to a Windows NT 4.0-based
computer.

Note The UpdateMode registry entry only applies for the Windows NT 4.0
policy.
<quote>
from...
How to apply System Policy settings to Terminal Server
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192794

<quote>
By default, Windows NT is set to download and apply system policies. This
behavior is described in KB article 168231, "System Policies Are Not Applied
in Windows NT" at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=168231, and is
controlled by the following registry value:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\
Control\Update\UpdateMode (REG_DWORD)

* A value of 0 disables the application of system policies.
* The default value of 1 enables Automatic mode. Windows will look for the
Ntconfig.pol system policy file on the authenticating domain controller as
described previously.
* A value of 2 enables Manual mode. Windows will look at the NetworkPath
(REG_SZ) value (in the same key) and attempt to find the policy file located
there.
<quote>
from...
The Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 98 Threat Mitigation Guide: Chapter
4 - Hardening Windows NT 4.0
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/guidance/networksecurity/legsgch4.mspx

<quote>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update
The following table lists valid settings for the UpdateMode DWORD value.

Setting Description
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0 System policies are disabled.
1 Automatic mode. Search for a system policy file named
Ntconfig.pol in the authenticating server's Netlogon share.
This is the default value.
2 Manual mode: Search for the specified system policy file in
the location specified by the optional NetworkPath SZ value.

An UpdateMode data value of 2 requires an additional SZ value called
NetworkPath that specifies a local or network system policy path and file
name.

The following samples demonstrate valid entries for the NetworkPath value:
\\<Servername>\<Sharename>\<Filename>

C:\<Directoryname>\<Filename>
<quote>
from...
System Policies Are Not Applied in Windows NT
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/168231

<quote>
UpdateMode value
This registry entry determines how the client will search for the
Ntconfig.pol file that contains the policies.
Path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update
Value name: UpdateMode
Data type: REG_DWORD
Values:

Value Description
------------------
0 System Policies are disabled.
1 Automatic mode searches for a policy file that is named Ntconfig.pol
in the authenticating server's Netlogon share. This is the
default value.
2 Manual mode searches for the specified policy file in the location
that is specified by the NetworkPath value. If UpdateMode is set
to a value of 2, you must specify an additional value that is
named NetworkPath that specifies a local or network system policy
path and file name.

NetworkPath value
The NetworkPath setting is used to identify the location of the Ntconfig.pol
file that is used to determine System Policies if the UpdateMode value is 2.

Path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update
Value name: NetworkPath
Data type: REG_SZ
Values: Value Example
UNC path \\Server_name\Share_name\File_name
Local path C:\Folder_name\File_name
<quote>
from...
How to implement system policies for Windows XP-based, Windows 2000-based,
and Windows Server 2003-based client computers in non-Active Directory
environments
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910203

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced\NoNetCrawling disables the net crawl functionality.
How to Disable Net Crawl Functionality
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/276322

NoNetCrawling is the state of the Automatically search for network folders
and printers option.

Folder Options | View tab | Automatically search for network folders and
printers

Automatically search for network folders and printers...
[[Specifies that Windows periodically search the network for shared folders
and printers. All shared folders and printers that are found appear in My
Network Places.]]

How To Disable Automatic Search for Network Printers and Folders in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320138

"Similar to a Web crawl, the net crawl feature searches out and provides
links to network resources."
from...
My Network Places "net crawler" functionality
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256248

"NetCrawler checks for new resources whenever you log on to a network, and
whenever you open or refresh your Printers and My Net Places folders. It
doesn’t "crawl" in the following situations: when a Remote Access Server
(RAS) or Virtual Private Network (VPN) connection is active; when you are
logged on to a Terminal Server session; if your machine is a member of a
domain; or if the shell restriction "NoNetCrawling" is set."
from...
http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/e/0/2e0e3caf-9005-4058-b3e5-42432655b486/PRO/WindowsXPTechnicalOverview.doc

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:uSM4AteoHHA.4192@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
Glenn Mulno hunted and pecked:
> "Peter Ogden" wrote in message
>
>> I have the same problem. I found this:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823291, but it didn't fix my problem,
>> though maybe it'll help you?
>>
>> Anyone got another solution?
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I have had the latest version of service pack so that was not my issue
> either.
>
> However - I was able to piece together a variety of fixes based on the
> recommendation from Wesley earlier and another web search.
>
> I created a .reg file with the following contents:
> ***BEGIN FILE
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update]
>
> "UpdateMode"=dword:00000000
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
>
> "NoNetCrawling"=dword:00000000
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>
> "Max Cached Icons"="12000"
>
> ***END FILE
>
>
>
> Running this registry file fixed the issue for me and some others in my
> company who had the same issue.
>
>
>
> Good luck.
>
> Glenn
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Glenn Mulno
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net
> Copied from Kelly's Korner no doubt. Wink

All three may be available on Kelly's Korner - but only two I found there.
One I found through another reference in a google search.

But what a great resource Kelly Korner is. Lots and lots of reg fixes.

> UpdateMode and NoNetCrawling have nothing to do with refreshing folders as
> near as I can tell. They may affect refresh, but I do not see how.
> NoNetCrawling may free some things up if disabled.

I agree that it does not seem to make sense. However - in the PC's we tried
fixing the issues we were having - if we left off any of the three fixes the
whole issue was not resolved. As odd it as seemed - it still worked.

Thanks for your earlier suggestion!

Glenn
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Peter Ogden
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Since: May 27, 2007
Posts: 2



PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks for the info. Unfortunately it didn't work for me. The first two
registry items were already set that way, setting the last had no
discernable effect (even after rebooting). Looks like I will have to put up
with the quirk.

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"Glenn Mulno" wrote in message

> "Peter Ogden" wrote in message
>
>>I have the same problem. I found this:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823291, but it didn't fix my problem,
>>though maybe it'll help you?
>>
>> Anyone got another solution?
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I have had the latest version of service pack so that was not my issue
> either.
>
> However - I was able to piece together a variety of fixes based on the
> recommendation from Wesley earlier and another web search.
>
> I created a .reg file with the following contents:
> ***BEGIN FILE
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update]
>
> "UpdateMode"=dword:00000000
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
>
> "NoNetCrawling"=dword:00000000
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>
> "Max Cached Icons"="12000"
>
> ***END FILE
>
>
>
> Running this registry file fixed the issue for me and some others in my
> company who had the same issue.
>
>
>
> Good luck.
>
> Glenn
>
>
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Wesley Vogel
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Since: Feb 23, 2004
Posts: 17940



PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Explorer does not automatically refresh [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>basics, others (more info?)

Hi Glenn,

Well, it beats the heck out of me. I guess with some things, if they get
fixed, ours is not to reason why...

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:OUSSXtqoHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Glenn Mulno hunted and pecked:
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net
>> Copied from Kelly's Korner no doubt. Wink
>
> All three may be available on Kelly's Korner - but only two I found there.
> One I found through another reference in a google search.
>
> But what a great resource Kelly Korner is. Lots and lots of reg fixes.
>
>> UpdateMode and NoNetCrawling have nothing to do with refreshing folders
>> as near as I can tell. They may affect refresh, but I do not see how.
>> NoNetCrawling may free some things up if disabled.
>
> I agree that it does not seem to make sense. However - in the PC's we
> tried fixing the issues we were having - if we left off any of the three
> fixes the whole issue was not resolved. As odd it as seemed - it still
> worked.
> Thanks for your earlier suggestion!
>
> Glenn
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maxand



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:05 am    Post subject: Windows Annoyances solution [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Hi I don't usually post here but I too had this problem recently and when I found this page looking for a solution, I thought I'd tell you about the fix that worked 100% for me, with no need to reboot, etc.

I got it from here:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win2000/t1011329684

"Try changing the following registry value: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update binary value = 00 Mine was set at 01."

In other words, click Start > Run > regedit > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (also known as HKLM) > System > CurrentControlSet > Control > Update then R-click and select Modify. You will see "1". Change it to "0". Click OK, close regedit, close and reopen Explorer and this should work for you.

My setup is XP SP2 and the Explorer LH pane didnt refresh without having to press F5.

Hope this helps.

Max
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