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josh41091
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Windows Activation Key used too many times?
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Hi there,

I have had a computer for 4 years and it came with Windows XP installed with
COA and license on bottom. I have had many problems with it (its as Time pc)
so I have had to re-install windows xp lots of times but each time i have
activated it. This time I had to re-install after my windows xp corrupted so
I installed with the license it came with and it installed. When i tried to
activate it it said that I had used this key too many times! By their records
it was used too many times so i couldnt use it to active my computer.

Can anyone help me with this problem. I had a look at the microsoft help and
support center by my computer is not compatible for the free of charge
support so i have to pay for help! Outrageous! I also dont want to call Time
because they want me to pay a £1 a minute for help which they wont give. Is
there anyway to reset my key because I want to sell my computer with windows
key but having an expired key is no good.

Thanks if you can help!

Joshua
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Ken Blake MVP
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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josh41091 wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I have had a computer for 4 years and it came with Windows XP
> installed with COA and license on bottom. I have had many problems
> with it (its as Time pc) so I have had to re-install windows xp lots
> of times but each time i have activated it. This time I had to
> re-install after my windows xp corrupted so I installed with the
> license it came with and it installed. When i tried to activate it it
> said that I had used this key too many times! By their records it was
> used too many times so i couldnt use it to active my computer.


When that happens you are also given a toll-free number to call. Just do so
and activate by phone. It's quick and easy.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


>
> Can anyone help me with this problem. I had a look at the microsoft
> help and support center by my computer is not compatible for the free
> of charge support so i have to pay for help! Outrageous! I also dont
> want to call Time because they want me to pay a 1 a minute for help
> which they wont give. Is there anyway to reset my key because I want
> to sell my computer with windows key but having an expired key is no
> good.
>
> Thanks if you can help!
>
> Joshua
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josh41091
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Yeah thanks for all your advice, but what I was thinking of was microsoft
kind of reseting my key so that it can be activated again, because I dont
want to sell a computer with windows xp which has to be activated via phone,
its a bit of a bother. Any ideas?

Thanks

Joshua

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> josh41091 wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have had a computer for 4 years and it came with Windows XP
> > installed with COA and license on bottom. I have had many problems
> > with it (its as Time pc) so I have had to re-install windows xp lots
> > of times but each time i have activated it. This time I had to
> > re-install after my windows xp corrupted so I installed with the
> > license it came with and it installed. When i tried to activate it it
> > said that I had used this key too many times! By their records it was
> > used too many times so i couldnt use it to active my computer.
>
>
> When that happens you are also given a toll-free number to call. Just do so
> and activate by phone. It's quick and easy.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>
> >
> > Can anyone help me with this problem. I had a look at the microsoft
> > help and support center by my computer is not compatible for the free
> > of charge support so i have to pay for help! Outrageous! I also dont
> > want to call Time because they want me to pay a £1 a minute for help
> > which they wont give. Is there anyway to reset my key because I want
> > to sell my computer with windows key but having an expired key is no
> > good.
> >
> > Thanks if you can help!
> >
> > Joshua
>
>
>
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Boris
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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After installing XP and SP2, plus the remaining updates, a phone call
is a piece of cake. I don't understand what the big deal is.

josh41091 wrote:
> Yeah thanks for all your advice, but what I was thinking of was microsoft
> kind of reseting my key so that it can be activated again, because I dont
> want to sell a computer with windows xp which has to be activated via phone,
> its a bit of a bother. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Joshua
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > josh41091 wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I have had a computer for 4 years and it came with Windows XP
> > > installed with COA and license on bottom. I have had many problems
> > > with it (its as Time pc) so I have had to re-install windows xp lots
> > > of times but each time i have activated it. This time I had to
> > > re-install after my windows xp corrupted so I installed with the
> > > license it came with and it installed. When i tried to activate it it
> > > said that I had used this key too many times! By their records it was
> > > used too many times so i couldnt use it to active my computer.
> >
> >
> > When that happens you are also given a toll-free number to call. Just do so
> > and activate by phone. It's quick and easy.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> > Please reply to the newsgroup
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me with this problem. I had a look at the microsoft
> > > help and support center by my computer is not compatible for the free
> > > of charge support so i have to pay for help! Outrageous! I also dont
> > > want to call Time because they want me to pay a 1 a minute for help
> > > which they wont give. Is there anyway to reset my key because I want
> > > to sell my computer with windows key but having an expired key is no
> > > good.
> > >
> > > Thanks if you can help!
> > >
> > > Joshua
> >
> >
> >
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Gordon
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"josh41091" wrote in message

>
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have had a computer for 4 years and it came with Windows XP installed
> with
> COA and license on bottom. I have had many problems with it (its as Time
> pc)
> so I have had to re-install windows xp lots of times but each time i have
> activated it. This time I had to re-install after my windows xp corrupted
> so
> I installed with the license it came with and it installed. When i tried
> to
> activate it it said that I had used this key too many times! By their
> records
> it was used too many times so i couldnt use it to active my computer.

You have to activate by phone. It's a toll-free number.
It's a new policy (unannounced I might add) that MS now demand that ANY
version of Windows XP is only activated ONCE over the internet. Any
activation after that once, it's a phone call. I don't know the purpose of
this other than to piss-off legitimate customers as I've re-installed the
same copy on the same computer three times in the last month and every time
the phone activation has been put through with out any query whatsoever. So
there seems to be NO point in it at all other than to piss people off.
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Shenan Stanley
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Gordon wrote:
> You have to activate by phone. It's a toll-free number.
>
> It's a new policy (unannounced I might add) that MS now demand that
> ANY version of Windows XP is only activated ONCE over the internet.
> Any activation after that once, it's a phone call. I don't know the
> purpose of this other than to piss-off legitimate customers as I've
> re-installed the same copy on the same computer three times in the
> last month and every time the phone activation has been put through
> with out any query whatsoever. So there seems to be NO point in it
> at all other than to piss people off.

I do not believe that is correct.

The policy (I hesitate to call it that - more of a "the way it is"...) has
been - and still is as far as I know - if the product in question was
activated in the last 180 days by Internet, you cannot activate it by
Internet again until after 180 days has passed.

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Yves Leclerc1
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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OEM versions (COA stickers) can not activate by the Internet. A lot of
branded OEM versions were sold separate from qualifying hardware and several
"demo PCs" had their XP COA code lifted while the PCs were out on the store
floor.



On 12/10/2006 "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>Gordon wrote:
>> You have to activate by phone. It's a toll-free number.
>>
>> It's a new policy (unannounced I might add) that MS now demand that
>> ANY version of Windows XP is only activated ONCE over the internet.
>> Any activation after that once, it's a phone call. I don't know the
>> purpose of this other than to piss-off legitimate customers as I've
>> re-installed the same copy on the same computer three times in the
>> last month and every time the phone activation has been put through
>> with out any query whatsoever. So there seems to be NO point in it
>> at all other than to piss people off.
>
>I do not believe that is correct.
>
>The policy (I hesitate to call it that - more of a "the way it is"...) has
>been - and still is as far as I know - if the product in question was
>activated in the last 180 days by Internet, you cannot activate it by
>Internet again until after 180 days has passed.
>
>--
>Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP

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Gordon
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Dave B." wrote in message

> Maybe their phone people weren't busy enough?
>

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Bruce Chambers
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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josh41091 wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have had a computer for 4 years and it came with Windows XP installed with
> COA and license on bottom. I have had many problems with it (its as Time pc)
> so I have had to re-install windows xp lots of times but each time i have
> activated it. This time I had to re-install after my windows xp corrupted so
> I installed with the license it came with and it installed. When i tried to
> activate it it said that I had used this key too many times! By their records
> it was used too many times so i couldnt use it to active my computer.
>
> Can anyone help me with this problem. I had a look at the microsoft help and
> support center by my computer is not compatible for the free of charge
> support so i have to pay for help! Outrageous! I also dont want to call Time
> because they want me to pay a 1 a minute for help which they wont give. Is
> there anyway to reset my key because I want to sell my computer with windows
> key but having an expired key is no good.
>
> Thanks if you can help!
>
> Joshua


The error message you received is somewhat misleading. What it
really means is that you've activated "via the Internet too many times
within the last 120 days." Because there is usually no sound technical
reason for reinstalling and re-activating WinXP so frequently, the
automatic presumption is that the OS is being installed on multiple
machines. I think Microsoft should fix this message, but it is, in
reality, a relatively minor "cosmetic" issue, so they're probably giving
more weight to some silly cost-benefit analysis more than they are their
customers' occasional confusion.

In actuality, there's no limit to the number of times you can
reinstall and activate the same WinXP license on the same PC. Nor is
there ever a charge. Nor does a Product Key (so long as it's not an
evaluation license) ever expire. If it's been more than 120 days since
you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able
to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you
might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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Gordon
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message

> Gordon wrote:
>> You have to activate by phone. It's a toll-free number.
>>
>> It's a new policy (unannounced I might add) that MS now demand that
>> ANY version of Windows XP is only activated ONCE over the internet.
>> Any activation after that once, it's a phone call. I don't know the
>> purpose of this other than to piss-off legitimate customers as I've
>> re-installed the same copy on the same computer three times in the
>> last month and every time the phone activation has been put through
>> with out any query whatsoever. So there seems to be NO point in it
>> at all other than to piss people off.
>
> I do not believe that is correct.
>
> The policy (I hesitate to call it that - more of a "the way it is"...) has
> been - and still is as far as I know - if the product in question was
> activated in the last 180 days by Internet, you cannot activate it by
> Internet again until after 180 days has passed.
>


I re-installed the retail copy I have of XP the other day. It's the first
time it's been re-installed (on the SAME machine) for about two years. It
failed the Internet activation. It failed the automatic phone activation and
I was forced to speak to a representative. he told me that it is now MS
policy that ANY version of XP is only allowed ONE internet activation in its
lifetime. Any more have to be done by phone. Otherwise, why would a RETAIL
copy fail the internet activation after TWO years and being re-installed on
the very machine it's been on for TWO years? And it used to be 120 days -
that's an unannounced change......
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Gordon wrote:
> "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
>
>> Gordon wrote:
>>> You have to activate by phone. It's a toll-free number.
>>>
>>> It's a new policy (unannounced I might add) that MS now demand that
>>> ANY version of Windows XP is only activated ONCE over the internet.
>>> Any activation after that once, it's a phone call. I don't know the
>>> purpose of this other than to piss-off legitimate customers as I've
>>> re-installed the same copy on the same computer three times in the
>>> last month and every time the phone activation has been put through
>>> with out any query whatsoever. So there seems to be NO point in it
>>> at all other than to piss people off.
>>
>> I do not believe that is correct.
>>
>> The policy (I hesitate to call it that - more of a "the way it
>> is"...) has been - and still is as far as I know - if the product in
>> question was activated in the last 180 days by Internet, you cannot
>> activate it by Internet again until after 180 days has passed.
>>
>
>
> I re-installed the retail copy I have of XP the other day. It's the
> first time it's been re-installed (on the SAME machine) for about two
> years. It failed the Internet activation. It failed the automatic
> phone activation and I was forced to speak to a representative. he
> told me that it is now MS policy that ANY version of XP is only
> allowed ONE internet activation in its lifetime. Any more have to be
> done by phone. Otherwise, why would a RETAIL copy fail the internet
> activation after TWO years and being re-installed on the very machine
> it's been on for TWO years? And it used to be 120 days - that's an
> unannounced change......

I just activated two OEM XP Home computers today after repairs. Both had
several parts replaced causing "You must activate within 3 days to pop up".
Both activated via the Internet no problem. I know at least one of them was
activated via the Internet when it was new because I sold it and activated
it at the customer's site.

There was never any official announcement about 120 days that I have ever
seen. Many people have assumed it, wrote it in newsgroup posts, forums, and
blogs until it became accepted knowledge. It fits into the urban legend
category.

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josh41091
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Windows Activation Key used too many times? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ah i see now, thanks very much for your help Bruce and everyone. So it means
that I can install windows xp and activate it in 120 days time now. Thanks!

Joshua

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> josh41091 wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have had a computer for 4 years and it came with Windows XP installed with
> > COA and license on bottom. I have had many problems with it (its as Time pc)
> > so I have had to re-install windows xp lots of times but each time i have
> > activated it. This time I had to re-install after my windows xp corrupted so
> > I installed with the license it came with and it installed. When i tried to
> > activate it it said that I had used this key too many times! By their records
> > it was used too many times so i couldnt use it to active my computer.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with this problem. I had a look at the microsoft help and
> > support center by my computer is not compatible for the free of charge
> > support so i have to pay for help! Outrageous! I also dont want to call Time
> > because they want me to pay a £1 a minute for help which they wont give. Is
> > there anyway to reset my key because I want to sell my computer with windows
> > key but having an expired key is no good.
> >
> > Thanks if you can help!
> >
> > Joshua
>
>
> The error message you received is somewhat misleading. What it
> really means is that you've activated "via the Internet too many times
> within the last 120 days." Because there is usually no sound technical
> reason for reinstalling and re-activating WinXP so frequently, the
> automatic presumption is that the OS is being installed on multiple
> machines. I think Microsoft should fix this message, but it is, in
> reality, a relatively minor "cosmetic" issue, so they're probably giving
> more weight to some silly cost-benefit analysis more than they are their
> customers' occasional confusion.
>
> In actuality, there's no limit to the number of times you can
> reinstall and activate the same WinXP license on the same PC. Nor is
> there ever a charge. Nor does a Product Key (so long as it's not an
> evaluation license) ever expire. If it's been more than 120 days since
> you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able
> to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you
> might have to make a 5 minute phone call.
>
> Here are the facts pertaining to activation:
>
> Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
> http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/
>
> Windows Product Activation (WPA)
> http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
>
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