Removing IDE boot DISK and start using PCI SATA card

mbn18 · External Since: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 4

Hello everyone

I have a computer where
the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.

I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.

I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
window"

I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
OS.

I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )

Any advice ?
Thanks

DL · External Since: Jul 04, 2006 Posts: 1976

Buy a floppy, or maybe create a slipstreamed winxp installation that has the
sata card drivers integrated into it

"mbn18" <miki RemoveThis @epoch.co.il> wrote in message
news:1164960404.404195.177500@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hello everyone
>
> I have a computer where
> the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
> I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.
>
> I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.
>
> I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
> Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
> The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
> window"
>
> I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
> OS.
>
> I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
> failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
> cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )
>
> Any advice ?
> Thanks
>

Loren Pechtel · External Since: Apr 28, 2006 Posts: 227

On 1 Dec 2006 00:06:44 -0800, "mbn18" <miki DeleteThis @epoch.co.il> wrote:

>Hello everyone
>
>I have a computer where
>the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
>I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.
>
>I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.
>
>I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
>Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
>The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
>window"
>
>I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
>OS.
>
>I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
>failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
>cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )

You might be able to put the IDE back in, install the SATA driver and
recopy the data to the SATA. Otherwise, get a floppy. Drivers needed
to boot Windows are one of the few things left that need floppy
drives.

Pavel A. · External Since: Apr 25, 2006 Posts: 156

Will it boot in safe mode?

--PA

"mbn18" wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> I have a computer where
> the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
> I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.
>
> I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.
>
> I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
> Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
> The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
> window"
>
> I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
> OS.
>
> I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
> failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
> cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )
>
> Any advice ?
> Thanks
>
>

mbn18 · External Since: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 4

Loren Pechtel wrote:
> On 1 Dec 2006 00:06:44 -0800, "mbn18" <miki RemoveThis @epoch.co.il> wrote:
>
> >Hello everyone
> >
> >I have a computer where
> >the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
> >I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.
> >
> >I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.
> >
> >I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
> >Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
> >The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
> >window"
> >
> >I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
> >OS.
> >
> >I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
> >failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
> >cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )
>
> You might be able to put the IDE back in, install the SATA driver and
> recopy the data to the SATA. Otherwise, get a floppy. Drivers needed
> to boot Windows are one of the few things left that need floppy
> drives.

thats what strange. I used the SATA card & the attached drivers as
storage place for long time. so the window on the IDE has the SATA
drivers.

When I disconnected the IDE the windows start but stuck on the
welcoming page. maybe some of the drivers are loaded on boot and some
that are loaded after boot ?

mbn18 · External Since: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 4

Pavel A. wrote:
> Will it boot in safe mode?

Nope Sad

Its the same as the normal way.

>
> --PA
>
> "mbn18" wrote:
> > Hello everyone
> >
> > I have a computer where
> > the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
> > I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.
> >
> > I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.
> >
> > I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
> > Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
> > The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
> > window"
> >
> > I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
> > OS.
> >
> > I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
> > failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
> > cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )
> >
> > Any advice ?
> > Thanks
> >
> >

Loren Pechtel · External Since: Apr 28, 2006 Posts: 227

On 2 Dec 2006 09:24:23 -0800, "mbn18" <miki RemoveThis @epoch.co.il> wrote:

>
>Loren Pechtel wrote:
>> On 1 Dec 2006 00:06:44 -0800, "mbn18" <miki RemoveThis @epoch.co.il> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello everyone
>> >
>> >I have a computer where
>> >the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
>> >I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.
>> >
>> >I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.
>> >
>> >I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
>> >Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
>> >The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
>> >window"
>> >
>> >I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
>> >OS.
>> >
>> >I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
>> >failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
>> >cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )
>>
>> You might be able to put the IDE back in, install the SATA driver and
>> recopy the data to the SATA. Otherwise, get a floppy. Drivers needed
>> to boot Windows are one of the few things left that need floppy
>> drives.
>
>thats what strange. I used the SATA card & the attached drivers as
>storage place for long time. so the window on the IDE has the SATA
>drivers.
>
>When I disconnected the IDE the windows start but stuck on the
>welcoming page. maybe some of the drivers are loaded on boot and some
>that are loaded after boot ?

The drivers must be different then.

You'll need to get the driver that Windows needs to do an install to
the SATA. It should be on the driver disk that came with the
motherboard. You'll need a floppy.

DL · External Since: Jul 04, 2006 Posts: 1976

Of course, no sata/raid drivers, to reiterate install from floppy, F6,
during the repair installation of win, but of course you have no floppy.
Go out and buy one

"mbn18" <miki.TakeThisOut@epoch.co.il> wrote in message
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>
> Loren Pechtel wrote:
> > On 1 Dec 2006 00:06:44 -0800, "mbn18" <miki.TakeThisOut@epoch.co.il> wrote:
> >
> > >Hello everyone
> > >
> > >I have a computer where
> > >the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
> > >I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.
> > >
> > >I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.
> > >
> > >I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
> > >Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
> > >The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
> > >window"
> > >
> > >I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
> > >OS.
> > >
> > >I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
> > >failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
> > >cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )
> >
> > You might be able to put the IDE back in, install the SATA driver and
> > recopy the data to the SATA. Otherwise, get a floppy. Drivers needed
> > to boot Windows are one of the few things left that need floppy
> > drives.
>
> thats what strange. I used the SATA card & the attached drivers as
> storage place for long time. so the window on the IDE has the SATA
> drivers.
>
> When I disconnected the IDE the windows start but stuck on the
> welcoming page. maybe some of the drivers are loaded on boot and some
> that are loaded after boot ?
>

mbn18 · External Since: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 4

Ok, i attached a floppy driver and loaded the correct driver.
But it still stuck.
I think the Window halt on boot because I named that HD as Z:

And I cant change it to C: on an active OS.
I assume its possible that Windows map the Letters to Hardware ID.

Does that make logic ?
Is it possible to change that ?

Cheers

Loren Pechtel wrote:
> On 2 Dec 2006 09:24:23 -0800, "mbn18" <miki.DeleteThis@epoch.co.il> wrote:
>
> >
> >Loren Pechtel wrote:
> >> On 1 Dec 2006 00:06:44 -0800, "mbn18" <miki.DeleteThis@epoch.co.il> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hello everyone
> >> >
> >> >I have a computer where
> >> >the Primary boot partion is IDE and connected to the main board.
> >> >I also have a PCI Sata card with two HD.
> >> >
> >> >I want to get rid of the IDE HD and use only the SATA hds.
> >> >
> >> >I used ghost to copy the Boot partion to the first SATA disk / partion.
> >> >Then I disconnected the IDE and restarted the computer.
> >> >The computer started normally only to halt later in the "welcoming
> >> >window"
> >> >
> >> >I think it might be a driver problem. though it did start to load the
> >> >OS.
> >> >
> >> >I tried to use the recovery tool from the XP setup CD but the CD boot
> >> >failed recognizing the SATA. ( I also don't have a floppy drive, so I
> >> >cant load a driver using the F6 in the boot process )
> >>
> >> You might be able to put the IDE back in, install the SATA driver and
> >> recopy the data to the SATA. Otherwise, get a floppy. Drivers needed
> >> to boot Windows are one of the few things left that need floppy
> >> drives.
> >
> >thats what strange. I used the SATA card & the attached drivers as
> >storage place for long time. so the window on the IDE has the SATA
> >drivers.
> >
> >When I disconnected the IDE the windows start but stuck on the
> >welcoming page. maybe some of the drivers are loaded on boot and some
> >that are loaded after boot ?
>
> The drivers must be different then.
>
> You'll need to get the driver that Windows needs to do an install to
> the SATA. It should be on the driver disk that came with the
> motherboard. You'll need a floppy.

StephenQF · External Since: Oct 03, 2009 Posts: 1

If you ghost over an image from an ide to a sata you can not boot to the
sata until you fix the master boot record. If windows every saw the SATA
drive while you are boot up to the ide drive it will have marked it's
partitions with a drive letters other than C. So you get to the welcome
screen and it can not go any farther.
Disconnect the ide drive and connect the ghosted SATA drive. Boot to
a dos floppy or a CD with a dos boot image on it. at the dos prompt type
"fdisk /mbr". This will reinitialize the boot record. The boot record
will not have the signatures of any of the drives. Windows will boot and
mark the first SATA partition as the C drive. There are other ways to do
it but this is what I use. I usually ghost partitions and not disks. If
you ghosted a disk you probably do not need to do this. I hope this
works for you.

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