Laptop upgrade to Win 7

Antares 531 · External Since: Jul 21, 2009 Posts: 13

I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz

I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
laptop will handle Windows 7, though.

It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.

Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
a computer like this?

Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
fresh install?

1PW · External Since: Aug 25, 2009 Posts: 24

Antares 531 wrote:
> I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
> Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
> has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>
> I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
> desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
> laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>
> It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
> presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
> install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
> important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>
> Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
> a computer like this?
>
> Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
> is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
> been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
> this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
> laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
> fresh install?

<http://windows.microsoft.com/systemrequirements>

<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/upgrade-advisor>

<http://preview.tinyurl.com/5cxjvr>

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Malke · External Since: Jan 13, 2009 Posts: 113

Antares 531 wrote:

> I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
> Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
> has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>
> I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
> desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
> laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>
> It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
> presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
> install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
> important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>
> Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
> a computer like this?
>
> Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
> is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
> been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
> this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
> laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
> fresh install?

Just to add to the good advice you already got - you have way too little
RAM. I can't believe you're even able to run Vista Basic with only 512MB of
RAM. You want to up it to at least 2GB. With that slow processor the machine
will never be a speed demon but assuming there are drivers for Win7 it
should be acceptable for web surfing, email, office programs, etc.

In order to use an upgrade version of Win7, you'll need to start the
installation from within a working Vista. Then choose the Custom install to
get a clean install. If you buy the full version, then upgrading doesn't
come into the picture and you can just boot from the Win7 DVD, delete your
old Vista partitions, create a new one, and install.

Make sure that laptop will have drivers for Win7 first.

Malke
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Paul · External Since: Dec 06, 2006 Posts: 353

Antares 531 wrote:
> I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
> Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
> has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>
> I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
> desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
> laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>
> It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
> presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
> install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
> important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>
> Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
> a computer like this?
>
> Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
> is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
> been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
> this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
> laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
> fresh install?

Your processor is 32 bit, so no 64 bit OS for you. A processor with
64 bit support is required for a 64 bit OS.

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27150&processor=430&spec-codes=SL92F,SL9KV

The 430 also does not support virtualization mode (VT-x), so you can't use
the Windows XP Mode of Windows 7. (Even people with Core2 processors
have to be careful, as only the expensive processors have VT-x enabled.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7

"A new version of Virtual PC, Windows Virtual PC Beta is available for
Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate editions. It allows
multiple Windows environments, including Windows XP Mode, to run on
the same machine, requiring the use of Intel VT-x or AMD-V."

You might check and see, if both 32 bit and 64 bit options are
available with the same product SKU, so that you can install
either version as needed from your three-pack.

HTH,
Paul

Antares 531 · External Since: Jul 21, 2009 Posts: 13

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:04:21 -0500, Antares 531
<gordonlrDELETE RemoveThis @swbell.net> wrote:

>I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
>Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
>has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>
>I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
>desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
>laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>
>It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
>presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
>install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
>important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>
>Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
>a computer like this?
>
>Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
>is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
>been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
>this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
>laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
>fresh install?
>
Thanks to all who responded. The situation looks rather grim, so I
guess I'll just get along with Vista until I have to buy a new laptop
computer. I don't think it would be practical or economically prudent
to upgrade my old laptop with more RAM and a faster CPU, so I'll just
knuckle under and live with it.

Gordon

ANONYMOUS · External Since: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 19

If you have any machines older than 3 years old, you are strongly
advised not to even try doing anything to them because Windows 7
requires a minimum of 1 GB for 32 bit but you will need at least 4GB to
do any meaningful work. I recommend 8GB to be really productive.

The only way is to buy a new machine for Win 7 to install otherwise
stick with XP and Vista until SP1 comes out to fix some the bugs and to
introduce some more! By that time you will have the lottery and so you
can buy new machines with Windows 7 in pristine condition. Then you
will need to ask what exactly do you do with the new OS? What was wrong
with XP or VISTA apart from MS not making any more money?

Antares 531 wrote:

>I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
>Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
>has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>
>I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
>desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
>laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>
>It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
>presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
>install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
>important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>
>Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
>a computer like this?
>
>Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
>is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
>been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
>this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
>laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
>fresh install?
>
>

Malke · External Since: Jan 13, 2009 Posts: 113

ANONYMOUS wrote:

>
> If you have any machines older than 3 years old, you are strongly
> advised not to even try doing anything to them because Windows 7
> requires a minimum of 1 GB for 32 bit but you will need at least 4GB to
> do any meaningful work. I recommend 8GB to be really productive.
>
> The only way is to buy a new machine for Win 7 to install otherwise
> stick with XP and Vista until SP1 comes out to fix some the bugs and to
> introduce some more! By that time you will have the lottery and so you
> can buy new machines with Windows 7 in pristine condition. Then you
> will need to ask what exactly do you do with the new OS? What was wrong
> with XP or VISTA apart from MS not making any more money?

I'm sorry but I completely disagree with you.

I ran all the Windows 7 betas and RC on an old (older than 3 years for sure)
Dell 400SC entry-level server with a 2.8 P4 and 1.5GB of RAM. The video card
is a very basic Nvidia GeForce that does support Aero. Performance was just
fine for everything except heavy 3D gaming. I used the same machine for the
Vista beta all the way through Vista RTM and I was impressed at how much
more responsive the box was with Win7 on the same hardware.

I now have Win7 RTM Ultimate 64 on a Dell Vostro 400 with a quad core (don't
remember the exact specs offhand but it's fast), 4GB of RAM, and an Nvidia
Geforce 8800. My son *does* do heavy gaming and so far Win7 has taken
everything he's thrown at it without missing a beat and with no sweat.

There is absolutely no need for 8GB of RAM unless one is doing professional-
level video editing, Photoshop, or AutoCAD types of programs. For someone
who just wants to read email, do office programs, surf the web, 2GB will be
perfectly fine. Most new machines are coming with 3 or 4GB of memory anyway
and the user I've just described will be completely satisfied with the
performance with those specs.

I think that in the OP's case he should up the RAM to 2GB to get decent
performance out of Vista - which is much more of a memory hog than Win7 is -
and leave Vista on his Compaq. That's a very low-end laptop and there is no
point in going to Win7 on it.

Malke
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JS · External Since: Jun 11, 2006 Posts: 2346

Good choice, if the laptop is acceptable with Vista
then save that extra Windows 7 license for later use.

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"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE RemoveThis @swbell.net> wrote in message
news:59tpd5hcreprrj1n902higmh7pu8qvfb45@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:04:21 -0500, Antares 531
> <gordonlrDELETE RemoveThis @swbell.net> wrote:
>
>>I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
>>Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
>>has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>>
>>I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
>>desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
>>laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>>
>>It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
>>presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
>>install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
>>important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>>
>>Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
>>a computer like this?
>>
>>Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
>>is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
>>been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
>>this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
>>laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
>>fresh install?
>>
> Thanks to all who responded. The situation looks rather grim, so I
> guess I'll just get along with Vista until I have to buy a new laptop
> computer. I don't think it would be practical or economically prudent
> to upgrade my old laptop with more RAM and a faster CPU, so I'll just
> knuckle under and live with it.
>
> Gordon

David B. · External Since: Aug 09, 2007 Posts: 45

Poor and obviously uneducated advise

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>
> If you have any machines older than 3 years old, you are strongly advised
> not to even try doing anything to them because Windows 7 requires a
> minimum of 1 GB for 32 bit but you will need at least 4GB to do any
> meaningful work. I recommend 8GB to be really productive.
>
> The only way is to buy a new machine for Win 7 to install otherwise stick
> with XP and Vista until SP1 comes out to fix some the bugs and to
> introduce some more! By that time you will have the lottery and so you
> can buy new machines with Windows 7 in pristine condition. Then you will
> need to ask what exactly do you do with the new OS? What was wrong with
> XP or VISTA apart from MS not making any more money?
>
>
>
>
>
> Antares 531 wrote:
>
>>I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
>>Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
>>has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>>I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
>>desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
>>laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>>It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
>>presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
>>install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
>>important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>>
>>Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
>>a computer like this?
>>
>>Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
>>is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
>>been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
>>this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
>>laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
>>fresh install?
>>

Michael Dobony · External Since: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 4

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:03:16 +0100, ANONYMOUS wrote:

> If you have any machines older than 3 years old, you are strongly
> advised not to even try doing anything to them because Windows 7
> requires a minimum of 1 GB for 32 bit but you will need at least 4GB to
> do any meaningful work. I recommend 8GB to be really productive.
>
> The only way is to buy a new machine for Win 7 to install otherwise
> stick with XP and Vista until SP1 comes out to fix some the bugs and to
> introduce some more! By that time you will have the lottery and so you
> can buy new machines with Windows 7 in pristine condition. Then you
> will need to ask what exactly do you do with the new OS? What was wrong
> with XP or VISTA apart from MS not making any more money?
>
>

What was wrong with Vista? How about phantom resets. How about phantom
lockups. How about taking longer to shut down than XP shuts down and
restarts on the same machine? How about not recognizing Windows-bundled
apps that Vista doesn't recognize as legitimate Windows apps? Need I go
on?

Michael Dobony · External Since: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 4

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:26:31 -0500, Antares 531 wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:04:21 -0500, Antares 531
> <gordonlrDELETE RemoveThis @swbell.net> wrote:
>
>>I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
>>Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
>>has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>>
>>I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
>>desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
>>laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>>
>>It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
>>presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
>>install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
>>important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>>
>>Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
>>a computer like this?
>>
>>Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
>>is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
>>been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
>>this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
>>laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
>>fresh install?
>>
> Thanks to all who responded. The situation looks rather grim, so I
> guess I'll just get along with Vista until I have to buy a new laptop
> computer. I don't think it would be practical or economically prudent
> to upgrade my old laptop with more RAM and a faster CPU, so I'll just
> knuckle under and live with it.
>
> Gordon

Or you could upgrade to XP, like I did. I left the Vista partition and have
had to go back to Vista for a few hours since Christmas 2008. XP is MUCH
more stable and MUCH faster. I would still look at bringing the RAM to the
maximum your computer will support.

Bob I · External Since: Jun 14, 2004 Posts: 8885

Michael Dobony wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:03:16 +0100, ANONYMOUS wrote:
>
>
>>If you have any machines older than 3 years old, you are strongly
>>advised not to even try doing anything to them because Windows 7
>>requires a minimum of 1 GB for 32 bit but you will need at least 4GB to
>>do any meaningful work. I recommend 8GB to be really productive.
>>
>>The only way is to buy a new machine for Win 7 to install otherwise
>>stick with XP and Vista until SP1 comes out to fix some the bugs and to
>>introduce some more! By that time you will have the lottery and so you
>>can buy new machines with Windows 7 in pristine condition. Then you
>>will need to ask what exactly do you do with the new OS? What was wrong
>>with XP or VISTA apart from MS not making any more money?
>>
>>
>
>
> What was wrong with Vista? How about phantom resets. How about phantom
> lockups. How about taking longer to shut down than XP shuts down and
> restarts on the same machine? How about not recognizing Windows-bundled
> apps that Vista doesn't recognize as legitimate Windows apps? Need I go
> on?

That's interesting, the Vista we have experiences none of those issues,
but then I purchased a PC with sufficient capabilities and it was
pre-installed. I suspect you need to sort that hardware out.

David B. · External Since: Aug 09, 2007 Posts: 45

By definition, moving from Vista to XP is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

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"Michael Dobony" <survey.DeleteThis@stopassaultnow.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:26:31 -0500, Antares 531 wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:04:21 -0500, Antares 531
>> <gordonlrDELETE.DeleteThis@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
>>>Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2. It
>>>has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>>>
>>>I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
>>>desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure this
>>>laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>>>
>>>It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB free,
>>>presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably do a clean
>>>install and delete all files from this hard drive, after backing the
>>>important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>>>
>>>Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits for
>>>a computer like this?
>>>
>>>Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install. That
>>>is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original O.S. has
>>>been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I work around
>>>this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the bottom of the
>>>laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order to do a complete
>>>fresh install?
>>>
>> Thanks to all who responded. The situation looks rather grim, so I
>> guess I'll just get along with Vista until I have to buy a new laptop
>> computer. I don't think it would be practical or economically prudent
>> to upgrade my old laptop with more RAM and a faster CPU, so I'll just
>> knuckle under and live with it.
>>
>> Gordon
>
> Or you could upgrade to XP, like I did. I left the Vista partition and
> have
> had to go back to Vista for a few hours since Christmas 2008. XP is MUCH
> more stable and MUCH faster. I would still look at bringing the RAM to the
> maximum your computer will support.

Daave · External Since: May 06, 2009 Posts: 71

Depends on who is doing the defining...

David B. wrote:
> By definition, moving from Vista to XP is a downgrade, not an upgrade.
>
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>
>
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:26:31 -0500, Antares 531 wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:04:21 -0500, Antares 531
>>> <gordonlrDELETE DeleteThis @swbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an HP Compaq Presario C 500 laptop computer that came with
>>>> Windows Vista Home Basic installed. This has been upgraded to SP2.
>>>> It has a Intel Celeron M CPU 430 @ 1.73 GHz
>>>>
>>>> I am contemplating buying a 3-pack of Windows 7 to install on my
>>>> desktop, my wife's desktop and my laptop computers. I'm not sure
>>>> this laptop will handle Windows 7, though.
>>>>
>>>> It has 512 MB of RAM and 68.9 GB of hard disk space with 47.4 GB
>>>> free, presently. This is set up as a 32 bit O.S. I will probably
>>>> do a clean install and delete all files from this hard drive,
>>>> after backing the important stuff up onto a flash drive or CD.
>>>>
>>>> Should I set this up as a 64 bit O.S. or is that beyond the limits
>>>> for a computer like this?
>>>>
>>>> Am I likely to run into any problems if I go for a clean install.
>>>> That is, will my "upgrade" intentions be honored once the original
>>>> O.S. has been wiped off and the hard drive re-formatted? How do I
>>>> work around this. I do have the Product Key (a sticker on the
>>>> bottom of the laptop) but will I need a CD or other such in order
>>>> to do a complete fresh install?
>>>>
>>> Thanks to all who responded. The situation looks rather grim, so I
>>> guess I'll just get along with Vista until I have to buy a new
>>> laptop computer. I don't think it would be practical or
>>> economically prudent to upgrade my old laptop with more RAM and a
>>> faster CPU, so I'll just knuckle under and live with it.
>>>
>>> Gordon
>>
>> Or you could upgrade to XP, like I did. I left the Vista partition
>> and have
>> had to go back to Vista for a few hours since Christmas 2008. XP is
>> MUCH more stable and MUCH faster. I would still look at bringing the
>> RAM to the maximum your computer will support.

ANONYMOUS · External Since: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 19

Malke wrote:

>I'm sorry but I completely disagree with you.
>
>
>
>
I never expect a member of the pig society to agree with me because they
generally don't do any meaningful work. they are either unemployed or
doing some casual work whenever somebody feels sorry for them and so
offers them a short-term job. Otherwise nobody in their right mind
would allow a pig society member to go near their system. PERIOD.

ANONYMOUS · External Since: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 19

What is your advise then? Monkey business?

David B. wrote:

> Poor and obviously uneducated advise
>

ANONYMOUS · External Since: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 19

Michael Dobony wrote:

>What was wrong with Vista? How about phantom resets. How about phantom
>lockups. How about taking longer to shut down than XP shuts down and
>restarts on the same machine? How about not recognizing Windows-bundled
>apps that Vista doesn't recognize as legitimate Windows apps? Need I go
>on?
>
>

You clearly have very limited knowledge of OS and how they work on
systems? Have you thought of coming to my class where I can educate you
on the way you should install your OS?

ANONYMOUS · External Since: Jun 27, 2009 Posts: 19

Daave wrote:

>Depends on who is doing the defining...
>
>
>
>
>
Can you just shut up if you have nothing else to contribute.

SC Tom · External Since: Jan 27, 2009 Posts: 89

"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS RemoveThis @EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
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>
> Daave wrote:
>
>>Depends on who is doing the defining...
>>
>>
>>
> Can you just shut up if you have nothing else to contribute.
>
.. . .said the pot, calling the kettle black Smile

David B. · External Since: Aug 09, 2007 Posts: 45

My advise is to not listen to you as you have no clue what your talking
about

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"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS.RemoveThis@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
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> What is your advise then? Monkey business?
>
> David B. wrote:
>
>> Poor and obviously uneducated advise
>>