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kraut
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: How to give user administrator privileges??
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I just got new box with Vista on and need some help here.

How do I give a user administrative privileges?? I am the only user
on here and would like to give myself admin privileges.

PLEASE BE VERY SPECIFIC since am new to Vistsa.

TIA
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Paul Smith
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"kraut" wrote in message


> I just got new box with Vista on and need some help here.
>
> How do I give a user administrative privileges?? I am the only user
> on here and would like to give myself admin privileges.
>
> PLEASE BE VERY SPECIFIC since am new to Vistsa.

Basically right-click on the executable of the program you need to run with
admin rights, and click Run as administrator.

On Windows Vista by default applications run as standard user.

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Harry Krause
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Paul Smith wrote:
> "kraut" wrote in message
>
>
>> I just got new box with Vista on and need some help here.
>>
>> How do I give a user administrative privileges?? I am the only user
>> on here and would like to give myself admin privileges.
>>
>> PLEASE BE VERY SPECIFIC since am new to Vistsa.
>
> Basically right-click on the executable of the program you need to run
> with admin rights, and click Run as administrator.
>
> On Windows Vista by default applications run as standard user.
>


Even if you are running them as "administrator"? That is, you have to go
in to each program on an individual basis and grant yourself Admin
rights if you want them?
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Paul Smith
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message


> Even if you are running them as "administrator"? That is, you have to go
> in to each program on an individual basis and grant yourself Admin rights
> if you want them?

How many applications are you running that need administrative rights?

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Harry Krause
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Paul Smith wrote:
> "Harry Krause" wrote in message
>
>
>> Even if you are running them as "administrator"? That is, you have to
>> go in to each program on an individual basis and grant yourself Admin
>> rights if you want them?
>
> How many applications are you running that need administrative rights?
>

One or two at the moment. My question was theoretical.
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Jimmy Brush
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Programs that are designed for Windows Vista will automatically ask you for
admin rights when they need them.

Programs that were NOT made for Vista will need you to right-click them and
click Run As Administrator, if you want them to have full access to your
computer.

For these programs, you can make them automatically ask you for permission
whenever they start by right-clicking them, clicking properties, clicking
the compatability tab, and checking run as administrator.


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The Traveler
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:46 -0000, "Paul Smith"
wrote:

>"kraut" wrote in message
>
>
>> I just got new box with Vista on and need some help here.
>>
>> How do I give a user administrative privileges?? I am the only user
>> on here and would like to give myself admin privileges.
>>
>> PLEASE BE VERY SPECIFIC since am new to Vistsa.
>
>Basically right-click on the executable of the program you need to run with
>admin rights, and click Run as administrator.
>
>On Windows Vista by default applications run as standard user.

This does NOT seem to work when I try to delete certain stuff.

For example, while I tried-out OneCare, I had it make a backup on an
external USB drive. Now that I uninstalled OneCare and installed
Norton 360, when I try to delete the backup folder on the USB drive, I
am told by Vista that I do not have sufficient rights.

I right-click on the folder and I see that I have administrator rights
(at least that's what I understand). No matter what I do, I cannot
delete the folder as I keep being told that I don't have the rights to
do so.

Any suggestions?

Comment: I am certain that it's just me not fully understanding how to
get this done. But then again, if I am having issues with this, I
really wonder how the common computer user will understand it?

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Don
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The Traveler wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:46 -0000, "Paul Smith"

>> Basically right-click on the executable of the program you need to run with
>> admin rights, and click Run as administrator.

> This does NOT seem to work when I try to delete certain stuff...

Probably any system file or files that were created by the system
for its own use. Files like those are actually owned by "Trusted
Installer" and not by Administrator, so you need to go in the
Properties>Security tab and change the owner from Trusted Installer
to Administrator. I think it's a reasonable precaution against
malware which would like to overwrite system files, logs, etc.

I actually consider most older software written for Windows to
be malware because the installer would routinely replace system
files with the version it happened to prefer. Absolutely mind-
boggling. I'm thankful that Vista put an end to it, finally.
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kraut
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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>>>>"kraut" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just got new box with Vista on and need some help here.
>>>>
>>>> How do I give a user administrative privileges?? I am the only user
>>>> on here and would like to give myself admin privileges.
>>>>
>>>> PLEASE BE VERY SPECIFIC since am new to Vistsa.


>>>Basically right-click on the executable of the program you need to run with
>>>admin rights, and click Run as administrator.
>>>
>>>On Windows Vista by default applications run as standard user.


>> Even if you are running them as "administrator"? That is, you have to
>> go in to each program on an individual basis and grant yourself Admin
>> rights if you want them?
>>

> How many applications are you running that need administrative rights?
>

I posted the original message and want admin rights / privileges for
"EVERYTHING" and not have to do it for each program I run whether it
is 1 or 100 programs. I do not want to have to do it every time I
open a program or try to access MS updates or WHATEVER.

I do not know a lot about vista but it seems as if there would have to
be a way to do what I want.

I appreciate the replies but I asked a specific question and wished
someone could help me out here.

TIA
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The Traveler
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:02:05 -0700, Don wrote:

>The Traveler wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:46 -0000, "Paul Smith"
>
>>> Basically right-click on the executable of the program you need to run with
>>> admin rights, and click Run as administrator.
>
>> This does NOT seem to work when I try to delete certain stuff...
>
>Probably any system file or files that were created by the system
>for its own use. Files like those are actually owned by "Trusted
>Installer" and not by Administrator, so you need to go in the
>Properties>Security tab and change the owner from Trusted Installer
>to Administrator. I think it's a reasonable precaution against
>malware which would like to overwrite system files, logs, etc.
>
>I actually consider most older software written for Windows to
>be malware because the installer would routinely replace system
>files with the version it happened to prefer. Absolutely mind-
>boggling. I'm thankful that Vista put an end to it, finally.

Thanks... it worked Wink

Now, although I understand the underlying principle and reason behind
this, I still say that it's way too complicated for casual users. Just
consider what I simply did: I removed MS OneCare using Vista (the
proper way), but when it came time for me to delete the no longer
needed backups on the external drive, Vista refused to let me do it.

Although I knew what to do after you directed me to the right spot (I
should have known), I am ready to bet that the vast majority of users
will not have a clue as to how go about changing the permissions to
get rid of these large yet now useless folders ;-(

Up to now I like Vista... but I am very curious to learn how
frustrating it will be for casual users who need to do what I just did
(casual users don't visit newsgroups).


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Don
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The Traveler wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:02:05 -0700, Don wrote:
>
>> The Traveler wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:46 -0000, "Paul Smith"
>>>> Basically right-click on the executable of the program you need to run with
>>>> admin rights, and click Run as administrator.
>>> This does NOT seem to work when I try to delete certain stuff...
>> Probably any system file or files that were created by the system
>> for its own use. Files like those are actually owned by "Trusted
>> Installer" and not by Administrator, so you need to go in the
>> Properties>Security tab and change the owner from Trusted Installer
>> to Administrator. I think it's a reasonable precaution against
>> malware which would like to overwrite system files, logs, etc.
>>
>> I actually consider most older software written for Windows to
>> be malware because the installer would routinely replace system
>> files with the version it happened to prefer. Absolutely mind-
>> boggling. I'm thankful that Vista put an end to it, finally.
>
> Thanks... it worked Wink
>
> Now, although I understand the underlying principle and reason behind
> this, I still say that it's way too complicated for casual users.

I heartily agree, but with certain reservations ;o) The casual user
doesn't know what to do when infected with malware, either. These
days the casual user doesn't even know about the infection, but we all
suffer for this ignorance nonetheless, in large part because MS was
not willing to do what was necessary to stop the problem -- until now.

> ...Up to now I like Vista... but I am very curious to learn how
> frustrating it will be for casual users who need to do what I just did
> (casual users don't visit newsgroups).

Casual users don't make backups, either. Vista's real market consists
of users who are still teenyboppers now (but God willing will actually
get jobs someday) and still have plenty of time to learn about basic
security principles. They still have the motivation and the energy
to learn how to 'defeat' such security measures -- always the best
way to learn a new OS ;o)
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Adam Albright
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:54:38 -0700, Don wrote:

>The Traveler wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:02:05 -0700, Don wrote:
>>
>>> The Traveler wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:46 -0000, "Paul Smith"
>>>>> Basically right-click on the executable of the program you need to run with
>>>>> admin rights, and click Run as administrator.
>>>> This does NOT seem to work when I try to delete certain stuff...
>>> Probably any system file or files that were created by the system
>>> for its own use. Files like those are actually owned by "Trusted
>>> Installer" and not by Administrator, so you need to go in the
>>> Properties>Security tab and change the owner from Trusted Installer
>>> to Administrator. I think it's a reasonable precaution against
>>> malware which would like to overwrite system files, logs, etc.
>>>
>>> I actually consider most older software written for Windows to
>>> be malware because the installer would routinely replace system
>>> files with the version it happened to prefer. Absolutely mind-
>>> boggling. I'm thankful that Vista put an end to it, finally.
>>
>> Thanks... it worked Wink
>>
>> Now, although I understand the underlying principle and reason behind
>> this, I still say that it's way too complicated for casual users.
>
>I heartily agree, but with certain reservations ;o) The casual user
>doesn't know what to do when infected with malware, either. These
>days the casual user doesn't even know about the infection, but we all
>suffer for this ignorance nonetheless, in large part because MS was
>not willing to do what was necessary to stop the problem -- until now.
>
>> ...Up to now I like Vista... but I am very curious to learn how
>> frustrating it will be for casual users who need to do what I just did
>> (casual users don't visit newsgroups).
>
>Casual users don't make backups, either. Vista's real market consists
>of users who are still teenyboppers now (but God willing will actually
>get jobs someday) and still have plenty of time to learn about basic
>security principles. They still have the motivation and the energy
>to learn how to 'defeat' such security measures -- always the best
>way to learn a new OS ;o)

If a sampling of posts here reveals "experienced" users, God help us
all. I see mostly clueless newbies, wannabe types and blowhards badly
trying to fake it. That includes many MVPs. On balance, this is a fun
group to read if you know what I just said going in. <giggle>
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The Traveler
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Re: How to give user administrator privileges?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:13:06 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:

>
>If a sampling of posts here reveals "experienced" users, God help us
>all. I see mostly clueless newbies, wannabe types and blowhards badly
>trying to fake it. That includes many MVPs. On balance, this is a fun
>group to read if you know what I just said going in. <giggle>
>

"Experienced"? well maybe not, but "Curious"? Certainly! Wink

Now you must certainly agree that the vast majority of users do not
have a clue on how to view and/or participate in newsgroup
discussions. Those that make it here deserve a "star" on their screen
Wink

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