an unidentified program wants to access your computer

But surely its possible for someone at microsoft to write code to save a
secure file that lists all programs that the user universally desires to run.
I mean, how likely is it that I'm going to double click on a program that I
trust implicitly, then CHANGE MY MIND half way through loading? Surely its
probable that in 999,999,999 cases out of 1,000,000,000, that if I trust a
program once, I'll trust it the second time?
And it doesn't help to tell me to get updates for programs, when some of
these implicitly trusted programs are of a type that will never be updated.

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> John
>
> Anytime you start a program that accesses restricted parts of the system
> that effects all users, you need to give your permission for the program to
> run. If you turn off UAC, any program, whether it's malicious or not, will
> be allowed to run using your administrator privileges without you being
> aware of it.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "john" <john RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:062DB8DC-97F0-47B8-A504-099DA12646A9@microsoft.com...
> > hi ,on my vista desktop two icons one for spywareblaster and one for
> > spybot
> > s&d have small shields in front of them and when i click on them i need to
> > give permission" an unidentified program wants to access your
> > computer"this
> > only happens on these two ,i would just like them to start like the rest
> > ,is
> > there a way to remove this .apart from turning off uac .many thanks john
>

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:00:03 -0700, atimholt

>But surely its possible for someone at microsoft to write code to save a
>secure file that lists all programs that the user universally desires to run.

That's more or less what they do to define Safe Mode and firewall
functionalities - and malware regularly edits these things.

So no, I don't want that, tho that is not the only reason.

>I mean, how likely is it that I'm going to double click on a program that I
>trust implicitly, then CHANGE MY MIND half way through loading?

Not very. However, it is very likely that malware may automate the
launch (and parameters) of some program, and if UAC didn't pop up to
warn you, you would not know it was happening.

Do I "trust implicitly" a particular program? Maybe.

Do I "trust implicitly" that program, for all possible parameters as
passed via CLI or other methods? No way!

>probable that in 999,999,999 cases out of 1,000,000,000, that if I trust a
>program once, I'll trust it the second time?

You're missing it. It's not about the program, it is about why it is
running and what it is doing (or being automated to do).



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I don't think you (Mr. V) replied to the specifics of the question... he didn't ask to turn off UAC (he specifically implied withOUT turning off UAC)... he asked if a person can "trust" a particular program -permanently-... so that he can run his program anytime without -always- having to explicity trust it, each and -every- annoying time.

In other words, or the same words... can we 'permanently' "trust" a program, such that we are not -constantly- NAGGED each and every time we want to run that particular program???

I have a program that I explicitly set it to run as administrator (I switched it to XPSP2 compatibility mode instead).... but as I explicitly gave it admin privilege, why ask for my trust incessantly? If I desperately want to trust a program... why not? Is it accessing such a 'critical' area, that it needs a permanent Nazi guard demanding 'my papers', even though I just shoved them down his throat with my administrative status?

Sorry, but boilerplate "don't turn off the UAC" answers aren't helpful... it would just be better if you simply admit "No, you can't permanently trust a piece of software"... end rant. *(Ok, again sorry, general advice is great but boilerplate torques me.)