Every move in Vista requires "permission". WHY and How do ..

Ed · External Since: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 104

I was forced to purchase a new computer with VISTA installed after my trusty
Dell went down with a motherboard failure. I've never seen anything so
ridiculous in my life as the repeated "access denied" or "permission
required" popups for functions that were quite simple in XP. I'm signed in as
the admin and yet moving a simple scenery folder from one drive to another in
flight sim renders an "access denied" popup. I've tried to import, via
Outlook, the "pst" personal folders from my other system which contains every
installation key and code for all my addon software for Flightsim. . ."access
denied". How do I bypass, turnoff or remove this irritating function?

And please don't come back on and tell me that "these are very necessary for
the proper operation of window VISTA, cause if that's the case. . .I see a
harddisk format and XP reinstall in this systems future.

Susan Bradley, CPA aka Eb · External Since: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 29

Okay so I won't tell you that I hardly see those and when I do don't
find them annoying then. Smile

When you say another drive to another... are you connecting to a USB
external drive?

http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/01/16/help-vista-w...t-let-m

You may need to run the software as administrator, or adjust the
software to run as XP sp2 . Right mouse click, go into the
compatibility tab and mess with the settings there.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/07/30/compatibility-in-vista.aspx

Ed wrote:
> I was forced to purchase a new computer with VISTA installed after my trusty
> Dell went down with a motherboard failure. I've never seen anything so
> ridiculous in my life as the repeated "access denied" or "permission
> required" popups for functions that were quite simple in XP. I'm signed in as
> the admin and yet moving a simple scenery folder from one drive to another in
> flight sim renders an "access denied" popup. I've tried to import, via
> Outlook, the "pst" personal folders from my other system which contains every
> installation key and code for all my addon software for Flightsim. . ."access
> denied". How do I bypass, turnoff or remove this irritating function?
>
> And please don't come back on and tell me that "these are very necessary for
> the proper operation of window VISTA, cause if that's the case. . .I see a
> harddisk format and XP reinstall in this systems future.

Ryan · External Since: Jul 31, 2007 Posts: 5

turn off user account control
go to control panel, user accounts

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R.

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa.TakeThisOut@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:OgY2Ztn0HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Okay so I won't tell you that I hardly see those and when I do don't find
> them annoying then. Smile

>
> When you say another drive to another... are you connecting to a USB
> external drive?
>
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/01/16/help-vista-w...t-let-m
>
> You may need to run the software as administrator, or adjust the software
> to run as XP sp2 . Right mouse click, go into the compatibility tab and
> mess with the settings there.
>
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/07/30/compatibility-in-vista.aspx
>
>
> Ed wrote:
>> I was forced to purchase a new computer with VISTA installed after my
>> trusty Dell went down with a motherboard failure. I've never seen
>> anything so ridiculous in my life as the repeated "access denied" or
>> "permission required" popups for functions that were quite simple in XP.
>> I'm signed in as the admin and yet moving a simple scenery folder from
>> one drive to another in flight sim renders an "access denied" popup. I've
>> tried to import, via Outlook, the "pst" personal folders from my other
>> system which contains every installation key and code for all my addon
>> software for Flightsim. . ."access denied". How do I bypass, turnoff or
>> remove this irritating function?
>>
>> And please don't come back on and tell me that "these are very necessary
>> for the proper operation of window VISTA, cause if that's the case. . .I
>> see a harddisk format and XP reinstall in this systems future.

Ed · External Since: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 104

Ryan,

I went with your suggestion, although after some searching I found it a few
hours after this initial post. That won't get turned back on for sure and
anything else I can find that's, in my opinion, "invasive" will be deleted or
turned off also. This might have seemed like a great idea to some nerd at
Microsoft, but it's nothing but a nuisance.

Thanks for everyones input!!
"Ryan" wrote:

> turn off user account control
> go to control panel, user accounts
>
> --
> R.
>
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa DeleteThis @pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:OgY2Ztn0HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Okay so I won't tell you that I hardly see those and when I do don't find
> > them annoying then. Smile

> >
> > When you say another drive to another... are you connecting to a USB
> > external drive?
> >
> > http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/01/16/help-vista-w...t-let-m
> >
> > You may need to run the software as administrator, or adjust the software
> > to run as XP sp2 . Right mouse click, go into the compatibility tab and
> > mess with the settings there.
> >
> > http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/07/30/compatibility-in-vista.aspx
> >
> >
> > Ed wrote:
> >> I was forced to purchase a new computer with VISTA installed after my
> >> trusty Dell went down with a motherboard failure. I've never seen
> >> anything so ridiculous in my life as the repeated "access denied" or
> >> "permission required" popups for functions that were quite simple in XP.
> >> I'm signed in as the admin and yet moving a simple scenery folder from
> >> one drive to another in flight sim renders an "access denied" popup. I've
> >> tried to import, via Outlook, the "pst" personal folders from my other
> >> system which contains every installation key and code for all my addon
> >> software for Flightsim. . ."access denied". How do I bypass, turnoff or
> >> remove this irritating function?
> >>
> >> And please don't come back on and tell me that "these are very necessary
> >> for the proper operation of window VISTA, cause if that's the case. . .I
> >> see a harddisk format and XP reinstall in this systems future.
>
>
>

Michael A. Covington · External Since: Jun 11, 2006 Posts: 56

I think we need to find out why you were having the problem. Only
administrative actions should trigger a request for permission. You may
have the wrong permissions set on something, or you may even have viruses or
malware.

Ryan · External Since: Jul 31, 2007 Posts: 5

With UAC and Admin approval mode turned on, even an administrator account
will get asked to continue (prompt for consent) or for a password (prompt
for credentials)

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"Michael A. Covington" <look.TakeThisOut@ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote in message
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>I think we need to find out why you were having the problem. Only
>administrative actions should trigger a request for permission. You may
>have the wrong permissions set on something, or you may even have viruses
>or malware.
>

Ryan · External Since: Jul 31, 2007 Posts: 5

and administrator actions is pretty much anything...even in some cases just
copying files (i.e. to program files or to windows directory)

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R.
"Michael A. Covington" <look RemoveThis @ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote in message
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>I think we need to find out why you were having the problem. Only
>administrative actions should trigger a request for permission. You may
>have the wrong permissions set on something, or you may even have viruses
>or malware.
>

Ryan · External Since: Jul 31, 2007 Posts: 5

it was an example...replace with anything else that requires administrative
privileges. I dont want to be asked to continue at every other action I make
if I'm an administrator.

However i do think it was a great idea to have the ability to prompt for
admin credentials for users...no more right-click run as for me!

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R.

"Alun Jones" <alun.TakeThisOut@texis.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Ryan" <RyanUnderscoreGermainAtHotmail> wrote in message
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>> and administrator actions is pretty much anything...even in some cases
>> just copying files (i.e. to program files or to windows directory)
>
> Which raises the question - why are you "just copying files to the program
> files or windows directory"?
>
> Those are areas that you want to remain sacrosanct.
>
> Granted, some games may write to saved game files in the program files
> directory - but here you have the advantage of using the virtualised
> program files directory, so that each user gets their own saved games!
>
> Windows, however, does essentially belong to Microsoft - why are you
> chucking stuff in there?
>
> Alun.
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>

Ryan · External Since: Jul 31, 2007 Posts: 5

yes that is what i did for myself but Joe Bloe doesn't want to/doesnt know
how to open secpol and play around in there. Ed was satisfied with just
turning it off, which is what this thread is about.
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R.
"Alun Jones" <alun.DeleteThis@texis.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Ryan" <RyanUnderscoreGermainAtHotmail> wrote in message
> news:e$YznmQ1HHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> it was an example...replace with anything else that requires
>> administrative privileges. I dont want to be asked to continue at every
>> other action I make if I'm an administrator.
>
> Then simply configure UAC to not prompt for elevation for administrators.
>
> That way, when you're in your administrator account doing administrator
> things, you'll be an administrator whenever you need to be, but by leaving
> UAC in place and enabled, your restricted account, which you use for all
> of your email and surfing, will still be protected. You'll even keep some
> measure of protection in your administrator account, as those applications
> which are marked to not elevate will run as restrocted user.
>
>> However i do think it was a great idea to have the ability to prompt for
>> admin credentials for users...no more right-click run as for me!
>
> Oh, you'll still have to do that for programs that aren't updated for
> Vista.
>
> Alun.
> ~~~~
>

Alun Harford · External Since: Apr 02, 2007 Posts: 109

Ryan wrote:
> yes that is what i did for myself but Joe Bloe doesn't want to/doesnt know
> how to open secpol and play around in there. Ed was satisfied with just
> turning it off, which is what this thread is about.

If he doesn't know how to open secpol, I'd rather he didn't turn off
UAC. I get enough spam already.

Alun Harford