g'day....installing.....

tyrellcorp · External Since: Sep 12, 2009 Posts: 4

hi there hope everyone is well out there!

Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
this subject.

is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?
Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
grateful....

cheers

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tyrellcorp

John Galt · External Since: Aug 27, 2009 Posts: 19

tyrellcorp <guest RemoveThis @unknown-email.com> wrote:

>
>hi there hope everyone is well out there!
>
>
>Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
>finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
>this subject.
>
>is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
>keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?

I doubt it. Going from 32-bit to 64-bit in Vista requires a clean
install.

I doubt that has changed.

Bruce Chambers · External Since: Mar 30, 2006 Posts: 554

tyrellcorp wrote:
> hi there hope everyone is well out there!
>
>
> Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
> finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
> this subject.
>
> is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
> keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?

No, there isn't. In fact, it's simply not technically possible to do
what you want.

There is no supported upgrade path from any 32-bit OS to any 64-bit OS.
You have to perform a clean installation, which entails deleting the
partition and creating and formatting a new partition (Although some
people merely format the old partition and start from there) before
installing the new OS, which obviously means that any and all installed
applications will need to be reinstalled from the original installation
media.

> Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
> this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
> of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
> grateful....
>
>

The Windows Easy Transfer Wizard can walk you through transferring your
data files and many application settings from one installation to another.

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Richard G. Harper · External Since: Sep 09, 2006 Posts: 1451

Sorry, no. You can use the "Windows Easy Transfer" tool to back up settings
and files now and then restore them afterwards. There is no way to perform
any upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit Windows, never has been and likely never
will be.

"tyrellcorp" <guest.RemoveThis@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:a086761439f2b328cae52eeb45e5acb7@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> hi there hope everyone is well out there!
>
>
> Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
> finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
> this subject.
>
> is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
> keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?
> Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
> this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
> of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
> grateful....
>
>
> cheers
>
>
> --
> tyrellcorp

Curious · External Since: May 09, 2009 Posts: 42

tyrellcorp,
You can not do an in place upgrade of a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit since the
registry and the drivers for hardware on the systems are totally different.
You can do a replacement upgrade which will replace your 32 bit OS with a 64
bit OS and which will save out all of your 32 bit files in a folder on your
desktop named Windows.Old.
You can then copy out of this folder any data files that you need for your
new installation and then you can delete the folder.
All applications will need to be reinstalled since they all have registry
entries.
You will not get any performance benefit from the extra memory available on
a 64 bit system unless you are running some very memory intensive
applications such as video editing or a relational data base manager. Think
of it like a car, you don't need or get any benefit from owning an 8
passenger minivan if you only have a family of 4 and a standard sedan.

"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in message
news:798627E5-6FB2-4490-9EE5-135ADE44D016@microsoft.com...
> Sorry, no. You can use the "Windows Easy Transfer" tool to back up
> settings and files now and then restore them afterwards. There is no way
> to perform any upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit Windows, never has been and
> likely never will be.
>
> "tyrellcorp" <guest.DeleteThis@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:a086761439f2b328cae52eeb45e5acb7@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> hi there hope everyone is well out there!
>>
>>
>> Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
>> finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
>> this subject.
>>
>> is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
>> keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?
>> Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
>> this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
>> of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
>> grateful....
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> --
>> tyrellcorp
>

tyrellcorp · External Since: Sep 12, 2009 Posts: 4

so you cant use a 32bit back up on a 64bit installation?

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Curious · External Since: May 09, 2009 Posts: 42

I don't even know what you mean by creating a 32 OS bit back up of a 64 bit
OS installation

"tyrellcorp" <guest DeleteThis @unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> so you cant use a 32bit back up on a 64bit installation?
>
>
> --
> tyrellcorp

Colin Barnhorst · External Since: Aug 14, 2009 Posts: 9

"tyrellcorp" <guest.RemoveThis@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> so you cant use a 32bit back up on a 64bit installation?
>
>
> --
> tyrellcorp

You can back up files with the Windows Easy Transfer in the 32-bit edition
and then use the WET in the 64-bit edition to restore them. It works very
well. As others have said, you will have to reinstall your applications.
All of them.

Ian D · External Since: Jul 04, 2009 Posts: 9

"tyrellcorp" <guest RemoveThis @unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> so you cant use a 32bit back up on a 64bit installation?
>
>
> --
> tyrellcorp

Your best bet is to install the 64 bit Win 7 in a dual boot
configuration. That way, you will have access to all your
apps, while taking time to set up Win 7 to your liking. To
do this Win 7 would need to be on a separate drive, or
partition.

If you're migrating to 64 bit Win 7, why not wait until the
Oct 22 retail release. Then you won't have to reinstall
when your beta, or RC Win 7 expires.

tyrellcorp · External Since: Sep 12, 2009 Posts: 4

i thought the RC runs out next august. I have tried the dual method and
got fed up with having to continually shut down and start to move
between the OS's. and that also ties up a hard drive which isnt being
used for 50% of the time. I thought that there might be a way to install
the 64bit and then install the back up of the 32 bit programs with all
of their individual prefernences intact. without having to uninstall all
of my programs and then installing them all again after i have installed
the 64bit os.
how reliable is a back up anyway? does it put all of the computer back
EXACTLY as it was , i think i would always feel that something was not
right or something.

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Ian D · External Since: Jul 04, 2009 Posts: 9

"tyrellcorp" <guest RemoveThis @unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> i thought the RC runs out next august. I have tried the dual method and
> got fed up with having to continually shut down and start to move
> between the OS's. and that also ties up a hard drive which isnt being
> used for 50% of the time. I thought that there might be a way to install
> the 64bit and then install the back up of the 32 bit programs with all
> of their individual prefernences intact. without having to uninstall all
> of my programs and then installing them all again after i have installed
> the 64bit os.
> how reliable is a back up anyway? does it put all of the computer back
> EXACTLY as it was , i think i would always feel that something was not
> right or something.
>
>
> --
> tyrellcorp

There's no way to backup applications and reinstall them in
a new OS installation. It's not just a matter of copying the
program Files folders for each app. There are thousands of
directory entries spread throughout the registry. If you're
going from a 32 bit to a 64 bit OS, there's also the 32 vs 64
bit separation. They have their own Program Files folders,
and system32 folders. Another consideration is that there
are 32 bit apps that are 64 bit OS aware, and may install one
or more 64 bit extensions, (.dll or .sys), for compatibility.
MS Office 2007 is one.

tyrellcorp · External Since: Sep 12, 2009 Posts: 4

so it looks like there is no way to get around the "install all again"
suituation , it seems i will have to start from scratch again , which is
annoying , it took well over a year to get the computer to how it is now
, its a lot of work just to get my machine to utlise all the extra ram.
thanks anyway

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tyrellcorp

alexdagr8est · External Since: Aug 10, 2009 Posts: 3

just back up all your files and reinstall, programs you will have to
reconfigure. sorry mate

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Steve · External Since: Sep 20, 2009 Posts: 1

That is a great analogy Smile

Steve

"Curious" <spammenot RemoveThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
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> tyrellcorp,
> You can not do an in place upgrade of a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit since the
> registry and the drivers for hardware on the systems are totally
> different.
> You can do a replacement upgrade which will replace your 32 bit OS with a
> 64 bit OS and which will save out all of your 32 bit files in a folder on
> your desktop named Windows.Old.
> You can then copy out of this folder any data files that you need for your
> new installation and then you can delete the folder.
> All applications will need to be reinstalled since they all have registry
> entries.
> You will not get any performance benefit from the extra memory available
> on a 64 bit system unless you are running some very memory intensive
> applications such as video editing or a relational data base manager.
> Think of it like a car, you don't need or get any benefit from owning an 8
> passenger minivan if you only have a family of 4 and a standard sedan.
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper RemoveThis @email.com> wrote in message
> news:798627E5-6FB2-4490-9EE5-135ADE44D016@microsoft.com...
>> Sorry, no. You can use the "Windows Easy Transfer" tool to back up
>> settings and files now and then restore them afterwards. There is no way
>> to perform any upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit Windows, never has been and
>> likely never will be.
>>
>> "tyrellcorp" <guest RemoveThis @unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:a086761439f2b328cae52eeb45e5acb7@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>
>>> hi there hope everyone is well out there!
>>>
>>>
>>> Once again i write here to find out some very neccessary info that i am
>>> finding hard to locate , i hope some one will have some inclination on
>>> this subject.
>>>
>>> is there a complete correct way to install vista /windows 7 64bit and
>>> keep all of 32bit installed programs and files in there orginal place?
>>> Its taken more than a year to get all of the settings and programs to
>>> this condition and i now need to upgrade to 64bit so that i can use all
>>> of that extra RAM.! any ideas on the way ahead would be most
>>> grateful....
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> tyrellcorp
>>
>