Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

Ken Blake, MVP · External Since: Jun 19, 2006 Posts: 169

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:47:18 +0000, Dominic Payer <dcp RemoveThis @dcp.fsv.co.uk>
wrote:

> You can perform an upgrade to avoid reinstalling your applications but I
> would always recommend a clean install of a new operating system. If you
> upgrade, you carry forward any registry errors and buggy installations.

My opinion is exactly the opposite: Unlike with previous versions of
Windows, upgrades starting with Windows XP replace almost everything,
and usually work very well.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.

> On 06/11/2009 10:33, Patrick wrote:
> > Dear Dominic,
> >
> > Thanks for your link. Appreciate your help.
> >
> > Do you suggest performing a clean install or upgrade from existing Vista
> > OS ?
> >
> > Needless to say, upgrade is much easier for me as I don't need to
> > install all software, broadband connection .... etc BUT I fear that the
> > upgrade will mess up the machine in the future.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Patrick
> >
> > "Dominic Payer" <dcp RemoveThis @dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:eNjvAAsXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp
> >>
> >>
> >> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
> >>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
> >>>
> >>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
> >>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
> >>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
> >>>
> >>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
> >>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Patrick
> >

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Dominic Payer · External Since: Jul 12, 2009 Posts: 11

I don't know that it works on a virtual machine but can see no reason
why it shouldn't.

On 06/11/2009 18:23, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly
Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
> Dominic Payer wrote:
>> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp
>>
>
> Does this method work if installing win7 on a virtual machine?
>
>>
>> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
>>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>>>
>>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
>>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
>>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>>>
>>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
>>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Patrick
>
>

Jack Mc Kenna · External Since: Apr 20, 2007 Posts: 6

"Gordon" <gordonbparker.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23n2Mu3rXKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "xfile" <coucou.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:eTkaFyrXKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>>
>> False.
>
> Not false. True.
So how did I do a fresh install on a partition for Win7 with an upgrade
version of Home Oreimun with noproblem at all? I had XP Pro on a different
partition and now I have a Dual boot system. I boted Win7 from a DVD drive
to do this. Make sure you know what you are talking about.

Leroy · External Since: Feb 14, 2009 Posts: 29

You can't. You would need to purchase a Full Version Windows 7 license
if you have no qualifying Windows operating system installed.

Jack Mc Kenna wrote:
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23n2Mu3rXKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "xfile" <coucou RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:eTkaFyrXKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>>> False.
>> Not false. True.
> So how did I do a fresh install on a partition for Win7 with an upgrade
> version of Home Oreimun with noproblem at all? I had XP Pro on a different
> partition and now I have a Dual boot system. I boted Win7 from a DVD drive
> to do this. Make sure you know what you are talking about.
>
>

xfile · External Since: Feb 16, 2009 Posts: 22

I'd be very happy to see the official words about it.

In the mean time, refer to the following and please use your common sense.

Clean install with Windows 7 upgrade media? Get the facts!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1505

Quotes:

Meanwhile, an argument that should have died ages ago has reared its head
again. If you purchase a discounted upgrade edition of Windows 7, can you
use it to perform a clean installation of the operating system on a PC that
doesn't currently have Windows installed?

The answer is really simple. If you qualify for an upgrade license, then
yes, you can use any number of workarounds to install the operating system
legally. If you don't qualify for an upgrade license, then those same
workarounds might technically succeed, but your license is not valid. Will
you get away with it? Probably. But if you're running a business, you run
the risk that an employee will turn you in to the Business Software
Alliance, which could lead to an audit, civil charges, and eventually some
stiff penalties.

[...]

Finally, there's the question of what older Windows versions qualify for an
upgrade to Windows 7. The answer is on the retail upgrade box: "All editions
of Windows XP and Windows Vista qualify you to upgrade. . If you are
upgrading from Windows XP, you will need to back up your files and settings,
perform a clean install and then re-install your existing files, settings,
and programs."

"Note that it specifically says "clean install," not "custom install."

http://windows.microsoft.com/upgrade?os=win7

Upgrading from Windows XP

Upgrade your current PC
If your current PC can run Windows 7, you can upgrade it. Note that you can
use upgrade media, but you must perform a custom installation of Windows 7,
which doesn't keep any of your files, programs, or settings.

Upgrading from Windows Vista

Upgrade your current PC

This table describes which editions of Windows Vista can be upgraded to
Windows 7. If you can't upgrade to the edition of Windows 7 that you want,
you can use upgrade media and perform a custom installation. A custom
installation doesn't preserve your files, programs, or settings.

"Leroy" <leroy.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4AF80B14.1060700@earthlink.net...
> You can't. You would need to purchase a Full Version Windows 7 license if
> you have no qualifying Windows operating system installed.
>
> Jack Mc Kenna wrote:
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23n2Mu3rXKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> "xfile" <coucou.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eTkaFyrXKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>>>> False.
>>> Not false. True.
>> So how did I do a fresh install on a partition for Win7 with an upgrade
>> version of Home Oreimun with noproblem at all? I had XP Pro on a
>> different partition and now I have a Dual boot system. I boted Win7 from
>> a DVD drive to do this. Make sure you know what you are talking about.

frankisconfused · External Since: Nov 09, 2009 Posts: 1

Spot on xfile.

I highly recommend you read the following link if you have any more
questions about upgrade media:

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

I had the problem with the student upgrade file from xp 32-bit to win7
64bit. It basically involved creating an ISO image from the download
file. Burning it. Then booting from it.

However I also created a new RAID0 array that wiped the previous OS. So
in the eyes of Microsoft I was trying to use upgrade media for a
completely clean system- the above link gives the registry workaround in
layman's terms but calling the free Microsoft support is clearly the
better option if you are legally upgrading.

No such thing as a free lunch my friends. Then there's Karma. Which
will get you.

--
frankisconfused

undisclosed · External Since: Aug 05, 2009 Posts: 14

Xfile,

You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from Windows
XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You will
however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
reinstalled / transferred manually.
For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
http://bit.ly/3DvynK
For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4

Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team

--
JessicaD

xfile · External Since: Feb 16, 2009 Posts: 22

Hi,

Thanks for you reply.

> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
> activate the product key.

Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
Microsoft Windows
XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and activate
the product key".

In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of Windows"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)

"Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely replace
your current operating system, or to install Windows on a specific drive or
partition that you select. You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
have an operating system, or if you want to set up a multiboot system on
your computer. For more information about setting up a multiboot system, see
Install more than one operating system (multiboot)."

Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't have an
operating system[...]

And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
(multiboot)"
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your computer's
hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a newer version of
Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier version of Windows on
your computer.

Did I miss something, or you?

"undisclosed" wrote in message
news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Xfile,
>
> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from Windows
> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You will
> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
> reinstalled / transferred manually.
> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>
> Jessica
> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>
>
> --
> JessicaD

Leroy · External Since: Feb 14, 2009 Posts: 29

Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating system
installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of Windows 7.
The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.

xfile wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for you reply.
>
>
>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>> activate the product key.
>
> Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
> Microsoft Windows
> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
> activate the product key".
>
> In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of Windows"
> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
>
>
> "Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
> replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
> specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom if
> your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to set up
> a multiboot system on your computer. For more information about setting
> up a multiboot system, see Install more than one operating system
> (multiboot)."
>
> Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
> have an operating system[...]
>
> And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
> (multiboot)"
> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
> for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
> computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
> newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
> version of Windows on your computer.
>
> Did I miss something, or you?
>
>
>
> "undisclosed" wrote in message
> news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> Xfile,
>>
>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from Windows
>> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You will
>> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
>> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
>> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
>> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
>> reinstalled / transferred manually.
>> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
>> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
>> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
>> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>>
>> Jessica
>> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>>
>>
>> --
>> JessicaD
>

xfile · External Since: Feb 16, 2009 Posts: 22

At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other than
your own words which are contradicting to the official statements and real
life experience.

There is no point for me to continue this tread Smile

"Leroy" <leroy DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4AF8B682.4070302@earthlink.net...
> Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating system
> installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of Windows 7.
> The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
> qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
>
> xfile wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for you reply.
>>
>>
>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>> activate the product key.
>>
>> Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
>> Microsoft Windows
>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>> activate the product key".
>>
>> In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of Windows"
>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
>> "Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
>> replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
>> specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom if
>> your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to set up
>> a multiboot system on your computer. For more information about setting
>> up a multiboot system, see Install more than one operating system
>> (multiboot)."
>>
>> Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't have
>> an operating system[...]
>>
>> And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
>> (multiboot)"
>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
>> for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
>> computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
>> newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
>> version of Windows on your computer.
>>
>> Did I miss something, or you?
>>
>>
>>
>> "undisclosed" wrote in message
>> news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>
>>> Xfile,
>>>
>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from Windows
>>> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You will
>>> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
>>> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
>>> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
>>> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
>>> reinstalled / transferred manually.
>>> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
>>> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
>>> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
>>> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>>>
>>> Jessica
>>> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JessicaD
>>

John E. Carty · External Since: Dec 09, 2006 Posts: 19

You can do a clean install even with the upgrade version and it will
activate afterwards with no issues:

<http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp>

"Leroy" <leroy RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4AF8B682.4070302@earthlink.net...
> Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating system
> installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of Windows 7.
> The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
> qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
>
> xfile wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for you reply.
>>
>>
>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>> activate the product key.
>>
>> Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
>> Microsoft Windows
>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>> activate the product key".
>>
>> In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of Windows"
>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
>> "Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
>> replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
>> specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom if
>> your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to set up
>> a multiboot system on your computer. For more information about setting
>> up a multiboot system, see Install more than one operating system
>> (multiboot)."
>>
>> Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't have
>> an operating system[...]
>>
>> And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
>> (multiboot)"
>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
>> for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
>> computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
>> newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
>> version of Windows on your computer.
>>
>> Did I miss something, or you?
>>
>>
>>
>> "undisclosed" wrote in message
>> news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>
>>> Xfile,
>>>
>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft Windows
>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from Windows
>>> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You will
>>> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
>>> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
>>> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
>>> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
>>> reinstalled / transferred manually.
>>> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
>>> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
>>> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
>>> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>>>
>>> Jessica
>>> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JessicaD
>>

Leroy · External Since: Feb 14, 2009 Posts: 29

Windows 7 Answers Forum:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

xfile wrote:
> At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
> than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
> and real life experience.
>
> There is no point for me to continue this tread Smile

>
>
>
>
>
> "Leroy" <leroy DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4AF8B682.4070302@earthlink.net...
>> Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating
>> system installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of
>> Windows 7.
>> The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
>> qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
>>
>> xfile wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for you reply.
>>>
>>>
>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>> Windows
>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>> activate the product key.
>>>
>>> Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
>>> Microsoft Windows
>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>> activate the product key".
>>>
>>> In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of
>>> Windows"
>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
>>> "Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
>>> replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
>>> specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom
>>> if your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to
>>> set up a multiboot system on your computer. For more information
>>> about setting up a multiboot system, see Install more than one
>>> operating system (multiboot)."
>>>
>>> Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
>>> have an operating system[...]
>>>
>>> And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
>>> (multiboot)"
>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
>>> for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
>>> computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
>>> newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
>>> version of Windows on your computer.
>>>
>>> Did I miss something, or you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "undisclosed" wrote in message
>>> news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>>
>>>> Xfile,
>>>>
>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>> Windows
>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from Windows
>>>> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You
>>>> will
>>>> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
>>>> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
>>>> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
>>>> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
>>>> reinstalled / transferred manually.
>>>> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
>>>> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
>>>> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
>>>> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>>>>
>>>> Jessica
>>>> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> JessicaD
>>>

Leroy · External Since: Feb 14, 2009 Posts: 29

Moving to Windows 7 FAQ:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to...ndows-7

"Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If
you want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will
need the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7
if you don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the
upgrade version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."

xfile wrote:
> At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
> than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
> and real life experience.
>
> There is no point for me to continue this tread Smile

>
>
>
>
>
> "Leroy" <leroy DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4AF8B682.4070302@earthlink.net...
>> Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating
>> system installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of
>> Windows 7.
>> The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
>> qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
>>
>> xfile wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for you reply.
>>>
>>>
>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>> Windows
>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>> activate the product key.
>>>
>>> Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
>>> Microsoft Windows
>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>> activate the product key".
>>>
>>> In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of
>>> Windows"
>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
>>> "Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
>>> replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
>>> specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom
>>> if your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to
>>> set up a multiboot system on your computer. For more information
>>> about setting up a multiboot system, see Install more than one
>>> operating system (multiboot)."
>>>
>>> Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
>>> have an operating system[...]
>>>
>>> And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
>>> (multiboot)"
>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
>>> for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
>>> computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
>>> newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
>>> version of Windows on your computer.
>>>
>>> Did I miss something, or you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "undisclosed" wrote in message
>>> news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>>
>>>> Xfile,
>>>>
>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>> Windows
>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from Windows
>>>> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You
>>>> will
>>>> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
>>>> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
>>>> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
>>>> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
>>>> reinstalled / transferred manually.
>>>> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
>>>> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
>>>> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
>>>> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>>>>
>>>> Jessica
>>>> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> JessicaD
>>>

xfile · External Since: Feb 16, 2009 Posts: 22

Good.

Now we see a disorganized company with contradictory statements.

But yours is from a team blog and those I posted are from the company's
statements.

Someone needs to clean their mess.

"Leroy" <leroy.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4AF8BA9F.9030804@earthlink.net...
> Moving to Windows 7 FAQ:
> http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to...ndows-7
>
> "Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
> your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
> don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
> computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If you
> want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will need
> the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7 if you
> don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the upgrade
> version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."
>
>
> xfile wrote:
>> At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
>> than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
>> and real life experience.
>>
>> There is no point for me to continue this tread Smile

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Leroy" <leroy.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:4AF8B682.4070302@earthlink.net...
>>> Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating system
>>> installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of Windows 7.
>>> The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
>>> qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
>>>
>>> xfile wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for you reply.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>>> activate the product key.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
>>>> Microsoft Windows
>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>> activate the product key".
>>>>
>>>> In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of
>>>> Windows"
>>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
>>>> "Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
>>>> replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
>>>> specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom if
>>>> your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to set
>>>> up a multiboot system on your computer. For more information about
>>>> setting up a multiboot system, see Install more than one operating
>>>> system (multiboot)."
>>>>
>>>> Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
>>>> have an operating system[...]
>>>>
>>>> And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
>>>> (multiboot)"
>>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
>>>> for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
>>>> computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
>>>> newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
>>>> version of Windows on your computer.
>>>>
>>>> Did I miss something, or you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "undisclosed" wrote in message
>>>> news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Xfile,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>>> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from Windows
>>>>> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You
>>>>> will
>>>>> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
>>>>> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
>>>>> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
>>>>> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
>>>>> reinstalled / transferred manually.
>>>>> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
>>>>> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
>>>>> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
>>>>> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>>>>>
>>>>> Jessica
>>>>> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> JessicaD
>>>>

Natéag · External Since: Jul 07, 2007 Posts: 9

It was definitely possible to install Vista using the upgrade DVD.
Is Windows 7 different in that respect ?.

That is not clear from the postings in this group.

"xfile" <coucou.DeleteThis@nospam.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:eOosXLaYKHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Good.
>
> Now we see a disorganized company with contradictory statements.
>
> But yours is from a team blog and those I posted are from the company's
> statements.
>
> Someone needs to clean their mess.
>
>
>
> "Leroy" <leroy.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4AF8BA9F.9030804@earthlink.net...
>> Moving to Windows 7 FAQ:
>> http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to...ndows-7
>>
>> "Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
>> your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
>> don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
>> computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If
>> you want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will
>> need the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7
>> if you don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the
>> upgrade version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."
>>
>>
>> xfile wrote:
>>> At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
>>> than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
>>> and real life experience.
>>>
>>> There is no point for me to continue this tread Smile

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy" <leroy.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4AF8B682.4070302@earthlink.net...
>>>> Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating
>>>> system installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of
>>>> Windows 7.
>>>> The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
>>>> qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
>>>>
>>>> xfile wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for you reply.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>>>> activate the product key.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
>>>>> Microsoft Windows
>>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>>> activate the product key".
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of
>>>>> Windows"
>>>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
>>>>> "Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
>>>>> replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
>>>>> specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom
>>>>> if your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to
>>>>> set up a multiboot system on your computer. For more information about
>>>>> setting up a multiboot system, see Install more than one operating
>>>>> system (multiboot)."
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
>>>>> have an operating system[...]
>>>>>
>>>>> And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
>>>>> (multiboot)"
>>>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
>>>>> for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
>>>>> computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
>>>>> newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
>>>>> version of Windows on your computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did I miss something, or you?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "undisclosed" wrote in message
>>>>> news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xfile,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>>>> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted. The
>>>>>> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
>>>>>> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
>>>>>> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
>>>>>> reinstalled / transferred manually.
>>>>>> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
>>>>>> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
>>>>>> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to Windows
>>>>>> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> JessicaD
>>>>>

xfile · External Since: Feb 16, 2009 Posts: 22

Hi,

My own experience along with many others' including those posted statements
all confirmed that it is possible, and legally, to perform a clean install
on a new partition.

But I am not the company's representative so I can't give you an
authoritative answer.

I do sense that they might be facing a litigation war if they can't come up
a coherent statement soon enough.

Hope this helps and good luck.

"Natéag" <nul DeleteThis @nul.com> wrote in message
news:ufSEUUaYKHA.5720@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> It was definitely possible to install Vista using the upgrade DVD.
> Is Windows 7 different in that respect ?.
>
> That is not clear from the postings in this group.
>
>
>
> "xfile" <coucou DeleteThis @nospam.com> a écrit dans le message de
> news:eOosXLaYKHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Good.
>>
>> Now we see a disorganized company with contradictory statements.
>>
>> But yours is from a team blog and those I posted are from the company's
>> statements.
>>
>> Someone needs to clean their mess.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Leroy" <leroy DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:4AF8BA9F.9030804@earthlink.net...
>>> Moving to Windows 7 FAQ:
>>> http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/09/24/moving-to...ndows-7
>>>
>>> "Upgrade versions require Windows XP or Windows Vista to be running on
>>> your computer before installing Windows 7. Full versions of Windows 7
>>> don't require a previous version of Windows to be running on your
>>> computer. Both upgrade and full versions contain the same features. If
>>> you want to format your hard drive when installing Windows 7, you will
>>> need the full version. In general, choose the full version of Windows 7
>>> if you don't have a previous version of Windows on your PC. Choose the
>>> upgrade version if you have Windows XP or Windows Vista on your PC."
>>>
>>>
>>> xfile wrote:
>>>> At this point, I've not seen any official words from both of you other
>>>> than your own words which are contradicting to the official statements
>>>> and real life experience.
>>>>
>>>> There is no point for me to continue this tread Smile

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Leroy" <leroy DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4AF8B682.4070302@earthlink.net...
>>>>> Jessica is correct. One must have a qualifying Windows operating
>>>>> system installed if you plan on installing an Upgrade version of
>>>>> Windows 7.
>>>>> The Windows 7 Upgrade DVD is designed to validate the license which
>>>>> qualifies you to install and activate the Upgrade license.
>>>>>
>>>>> xfile wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for you reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>>>>> activate the product key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing in those pages says anything about "a valid previous copy of
>>>>>> Microsoft Windows
>>>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>>>> activate the product key".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact, the following is under "Installing a custom version of
>>>>>> Windows"
>>>>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Windows7/Installing-and-reinstalling-Windows)
>>>>>> "Installing a custom version of Windows. Choose Custom to completely
>>>>>> replace your current operating system, or to install Windows on a
>>>>>> specific drive or partition that you select. You can also use Custom
>>>>>> if your computer doesn't have an operating system, or if you want to
>>>>>> set up a multiboot system on your computer. For more information
>>>>>> about setting up a multiboot system, see Install more than one
>>>>>> operating system (multiboot)."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that it says - You can also use Custom if your computer doesn't
>>>>>> have an operating system[...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And there is a subsection "Install more than one operating system
>>>>>> (multiboot)"
>>>>>> (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Install-more-than-one-operating-system-multiboot)
>>>>>> for a clean install on a separate partition and it says: If your
>>>>>> computer's hard disk has adequate free disk space, you can install a
>>>>>> newer version of Windows on a separate partition and keep the earlier
>>>>>> version of Windows on your computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did I miss something, or you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "undisclosed" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e54d64df11615696f60b15baa9482581@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Xfile,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can perform a clean install from a Windows 7 upgrade version
>>>>>>> however you will have to have a valid previous copy of Microsoft
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> XP or Microsoft Windows Vista installed to validate the upgrade and
>>>>>>> activate the product key. Please note that when migrating from
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> XP to Windows 7 you will not have an "in place upgrade" option. You
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> however have the option to select "custom" install when prompted.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> Windows 7 install process will then copy all of your data in "My
>>>>>>> Documents" over to a Windows.old folder within Windows 7 itself. All
>>>>>>> applications and documents stored in other locations will have to be
>>>>>>> reinstalled / transferred manually.
>>>>>>> For more information on the Windows 7 Upgrade, please go here:
>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/3DvynK
>>>>>>> For additional assistance with the migration of Windows XP to
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> 7, please go here: http://tinyurl.com/mhbep4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>> Microsoft Windows Client Team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> JessicaD
>>>>>>
>

Camper · External Since: May 30, 2009 Posts: 7

"xfile" <coucou RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OdulyeaYKHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> My own experience along with many others' including those posted
> statements all confirmed that it is possible, and legally, to perform a
> clean install on a new partition.
>
> But I am not the company's representative so I can't give you an
> authoritative answer.
>
> I do sense that they might be facing a litigation war if they can't come
> up a coherent statement soon enough.
>
Get a life.

xfile · External Since: Feb 16, 2009 Posts: 22

Very impressive.

Do you happen to know that a new church has been built by your master and
most of your friends have moved to there for worship?

Maybe Gordon and Leroy forgot to tell you.

Now this is a true peer-to-peer newsgroup, so you may want to join your
comrades over there Smile

"Camper" <bruce.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:#ZXcKWeYKHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "xfile" <coucou.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OdulyeaYKHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> My own experience along with many others' including those posted
>> statements all confirmed that it is possible, and legally, to perform a
>> clean install on a new partition.
>>
>> But I am not the company's representative so I can't give you an
>> authoritative answer.
>>
>> I do sense that they might be facing a litigation war if they can't come
>> up a coherent statement soon enough.
>>
> Get a life.