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jasinwa

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:07 pm
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Here is my issue:

Using Vista Home basic, I can not get the pc to print to a print server
printer. The data seems to spool and then just sits there, nothing ever
happens, no print, etc.

C88 Epson, using Vista driver for it.

I have a USR wire/wireless router with a built in print server (printer
connects to a USB port on it). Model of router is USR 5461.

Funny enough, this printer work great with W98 and XP on multiple computers!
This PC is a notebook using wireless to connect to the house network. I had
XP on it and it worked fine. Only reinstalling Vista, I can't get the printer
to print!

I even tried setting rules for Windows firewall to allow the specific
address. I know the address I was using was correct, as it works on many
other non-vista PC's.

Anyone have luck using the print server on the USR router?

Any help? Do I need to supply more info?

thx...Jeff
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AwesomeSpaceMonkey

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:26 pm
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I have the exact same problem. USR5461 router, Canon ip3000 printer, works
with XP, not with Vista. Just thought I would let you know you're not alone.

"jasinwa" wrote:

> Here is my issue:
>
> Using Vista Home basic, I can not get the pc to print to a print server
> printer. The data seems to spool and then just sits there, nothing ever
> happens, no print, etc.
>
> C88 Epson, using Vista driver for it.
>
> I have a USR wire/wireless router with a built in print server (printer
> connects to a USB port on it). Model of router is USR 5461.
>
> Funny enough, this printer work great with W98 and XP on multiple computers!
> This PC is a notebook using wireless to connect to the house network. I had
> XP on it and it worked fine. Only reinstalling Vista, I can't get the printer
> to print!
>
> I even tried setting rules for Windows firewall to allow the specific
> address. I know the address I was using was correct, as it works on many
> other non-vista PC's.
>
> Anyone have luck using the print server on the USR router?
>
> Any help? Do I need to supply more info?
>
> thx...Jeff
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jasinwa

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:45 pm
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Good to know, I guess....now if we or someone can figure out why!! I can't go
backwards with a new OS !!

"AwesomeSpaceMonkey" wrote:

> I have the exact same problem. USR5461 router, Canon ip3000 printer, works
> with XP, not with Vista. Just thought I would let you know you're not alone.
>
> "jasinwa" wrote:
>
> > Here is my issue:
> >
> > Using Vista Home basic, I can not get the pc to print to a print server
> > printer. The data seems to spool and then just sits there, nothing ever
> > happens, no print, etc.
> >
> > C88 Epson, using Vista driver for it.
> >
> > I have a USR wire/wireless router with a built in print server (printer
> > connects to a USB port on it). Model of router is USR 5461.
> >
> > Funny enough, this printer work great with W98 and XP on multiple computers!
> > This PC is a notebook using wireless to connect to the house network. I had
> > XP on it and it worked fine. Only reinstalling Vista, I can't get the printer
> > to print!
> >
> > I even tried setting rules for Windows firewall to allow the specific
> > address. I know the address I was using was correct, as it works on many
> > other non-vista PC's.
> >
> > Anyone have luck using the print server on the USR router?
> >
> > Any help? Do I need to supply more info?
> >
> > thx...Jeff
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jasinwa

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:13 am
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I've been checking other forums. The problem is widespread and no one has
offered a solution.

MS - FIX IT!!
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Dan [MSFT]

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:12 am
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This probably won't solve your problem, but it will at least let you know
what's probably going on here.

Typically these print server boxes are running some flavor of unix, of which
there are zillions. I can find no documentation on USR's website talking
about what they are running on these boxes. If that flavor of *nix supports
Samba, Vista printing should work with them (this is why Vista will work
with a printer shared from a Mac). However, if they do something else, you
may experience problems.

This is a long shot, but you might be able to try connecting to the printer
with a MASQ connection. In the Add Printer wizard, type in the connection
name of "http://[router ip address]/printers/My_Printer/.printer". If that
doesn't work, you'll have to wait for USR to do something to support the
device on Vista.

Thanks,
Dan

"jasinwa" <jasinwa.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:319D48C1-2ACC-4C8F-B0A8-BC0427422A3D@microsoft.com...
> I've been checking other forums. The problem is widespread and no one has
> offered a solution.
>
> MS - FIX IT!!
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jasinwa

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:43 pm
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Thanks....but isn't that a bit BACKWARDS Dan?

Really - you (MS) push a new OS and it can't do what XP did! Since XP worked
fine, I'd think MS should be fixing Vista.

Sorry I sound so negative, but I doubt USR will update an older product just
for Vista. I will have to revert back to XP and could NEVER update to Vista
till this issue is fixed.

Thank you for responding though. Please take this feedback back with you to
the campus.

Jeff


"Dan [MSFT]" wrote:

> This probably won't solve your problem, but it will at least let you know
> what's probably going on here.
>
> Typically these print server boxes are running some flavor of unix, of which
> there are zillions. I can find no documentation on USR's website talking
> about what they are running on these boxes. If that flavor of *nix supports
> Samba, Vista printing should work with them (this is why Vista will work
> with a printer shared from a Mac). However, if they do something else, you
> may experience problems.
>
> This is a long shot, but you might be able to try connecting to the printer
> with a MASQ connection. In the Add Printer wizard, type in the connection
> name of "http://[router ip address]/printers/My_Printer/.printer". If that
> doesn't work, you'll have to wait for USR to do something to support the
> device on Vista.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> "jasinwa" <jasinwa.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:319D48C1-2ACC-4C8F-B0A8-BC0427422A3D@microsoft.com...
> > I've been checking other forums. The problem is widespread and no one has
> > offered a solution.
> >
> > MS - FIX IT!!
>
>
>
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petrack

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:04 pm
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for me thisone worked:

1) follow installation guidelines provided by USR (will end up with
a dummy printer > VISTA won't connect with)

2) add another printer but, this time select "add local printer"

3) select internet port and assign adress created during step 1)

4) finally set to standard printer. that's all!Wink


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marcello.scala

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:19 am
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On 29 Lug, 05:04, petrack <petrack.2ug....DeleteThis@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:
> for me thisone worked:
>
> 1) follow installation guidelines provided by USR (will end up with
> a dummy printer >VISTAwon't connect with)
>
> 2) add another printer but, this time select "add local printer"
>
> 3) select internet port and assign adress created during step 1)
>
> 4) finally set to standard printer. that's all!Wink
>
> --
> petrack

sorry but i don't understand step 1
you can to explain better?

i have same problem

Thanx
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:20 pm
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step 1 = printserver installation as described in usr5461 manual
(alternatively find installation procedure on their website).

continue with step 2 ...:geek:


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marcello.scala

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:14 am
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On 30 Lug, 02:20, petrack <petrack.2ui....TakeThisOut@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:
> step 1 = printserver installation as described inusr5461manual
> (alternatively find installation procedure on their website).
>
> continue with step 2 ...:geek:
>
> --
> petrack

is this the problem.
i don't understand also this step.
>From windows xp to vista, the setting is different
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:58 pm
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you have to assign printserver-adress to internet port
however - different to xp - vista x64 doesn't allow for that

to workaround add a network printer first and assign the full network
path (... /printers/My_Printer)

next add another, local printer and forward it to internet port. Vista
to this port then will automatically add the network path created during
previous step.

please note there might occur error messages. simply click away.

:party:


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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:10 pm
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I contacted USR and got a prompt reply that worked fine.

N.B. - if you've been hacking around with this for a while you've likely created several tcp/ip ports under the printer properties. I had to get rid of this junk (and I rebooted for good measure as well) and then it worked just fine.

You must first set-up the printer directly to Vista computer. You will connect the printer USB cable directly to the Vista machine and install the printer with it drivers from the printer cd and after you've completed the installation, print a test page.

Once you've got it to print the test page, re-connect the printer to the router and add the printer to the Vista computer with add printer wizard.

I'm including a Word Document with a graphical view of the installation.

Here is the document

USR5461 - Windows Vista USB Printer Installation
A USB printer can be connected to the Wireless MAXg Router and used as a network printer if you are using an operating system that supports printing to an Internet Printing Protocol (IPP)-based printer. Windows Vista has built-in support for this function.
Step One: Local Printer Installation
Note: If your printer and printer software is already installed on your computer, skip to Step Two: Print Server Configuration.
Before configuring your printer on the print server, it is important to install it on your computer using the drivers provided by the printer manufacturer.
1. Plug your USB printer into one of the USB ports on your computer.
2. Install the printer by following the installation instructions included with your printer.
3. Print a test page to ensure that the printer is working properly.
Step Two: Print Server Configuration
1. Plug the thin rectangular end of the USB cable into the USB port on the Wireless MAXg Router.

2. Connect the power supply to your printer and turn your printer on.
3. Launch a Web browser. In the location or address line type 192.168.2.1 and press Enter.
Note: If you have modified your router's IP address, enter the new IP address instead of 192.168.2.1

4. When the user name and password window appears, type in the user name and the password you created. Click OK to load the router's setup page.

Note: You will not be prompted to login the first time you connect to the MAXg Router's Web User Interface. During the Setup Wizard procedure, you will be prompted to create a user name and password to log in to the router. If you create a user name and password, you will need to use these whenever you want to log in to the Wireless MAXg Router. The user name and password are case sensitive.
5. In the Device section of the Status page, look for the Printer status and Printer location information.

Write down the Printer location address. This information will be used in step 10..
Note: Perform the following steps to set up your printer. You will need to do this on every computer that is connected to your network and wants to be able to access the printer.
6. Click the Start button, then Control Panel. Under Hardware and Sound, click "Printer".



7. Click Add a printer. This will start the Windows' Add Printer Wizard



8. In the "Choose a local or network printer" window, choose Add a network, wireless or Bluetooth printer and click "Next".



9. In the "No printers were found" window, choose The printer that I want isn't listed and click "Next".



10. In the "Find a printer by name or TCP/IP address" window, choose Select a shared printer by name and enter the URL to your printer.

Note: The default URL is http://192.168.2.1:1631/printers/My_Printer

After entering the URL, click "Next".



11. The Add Printer Wizard will then attempt to connect to your printer. If you get an error that your printer cannot be found or cannot connect, please temporarily disable any software firewall which may be blocking communications to port 1631 which is the port used by the print server. After setting up your printer, you can then opt to turn the firewall back on and make an allowance for port 1631 in it's configuration options.



12. You will now be prompted to select the manufacturer and model of your printer. If your manufacturer or model is not listed, please contact the manufacturer for drivers. After you have the proper drivers, you can continue the installation by clicking the "Have Disk" button and browsing to where the drivers are located.After selecting the manufacturer and model, click "Next".



13. In the "Type a printer name" window, give your printer a name. Check "Set as the default printer" if this is going to be the default printer. When you are done, click "Next".



14. You will now be presented with a windows stating that you've successfully set up your printer. You will see a button labeled "Print a test page". Click this button to test your printer. After the test page prints click the "Finish" button to complete the installation.



15. Your newly installed printer will now appear in the installed printers window.


(the graphics were naturally lost in copying the word document)

Enjoy

ET[/b]
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nadshez




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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:58 am
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I NEED HELP

Instructions according to et4595 worked once (None of the other methods i had tried earlier worked so i was ecstatic .. for a while Confused .

Now when i try to reproduce the whole scenario, everything goes ok except for that the printer does not respond when i send a print. The printer is showing ready status in USR web config page. During the setup, it seems to look at the port http://192.168.2.1..... successfully .. but it just-does-not-print! Please Help. Seems like i made a mistake buying this hp model. Thanks a lot.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:20 am
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Just wanted to add that i've tried another printer, HP Officejet 5610 .. it works just fine using this above method. But Hp 1020 just sits idle when i send a print. Also, no print goes into the print spooler when i send a print. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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