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Mark External

Since: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 204
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: Re: User Account Control, Security [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>vista>security (more info?) |
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I don't think UAC will help that, most programs will still run the same way
they always did, with the same privileges, except for some secure areas. I
think the real advantage (as well as the real pain) is how it prompts for
everything. With UAC on, it prompts before doing anything it considers
important. This can be a real pain when it prompts 4 times "are you really
sure?" just to delete a folder, but when you are on a website and it pops up
and prompts you if its ok to install a keylogger, I think you will be happy.
Of course its functionality is limited right now because it gives such
limited information, 95% of the time it just says "unknown program", even
many Microsoft apps pup up with "unknown program"
"Alun Harford" wrote:
> Jesper wrote:
> >> I am the only user of my computer - do I really need UAC enabled?
> >
> > Yes. It has nothing to do with protecting you from other users on your
> > computer. It is about ensuring that you do not have to be an administrator
> > all the time. When you run as an admin the slightest misclick can spell
> > disaster.
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> Or no misclick.
> Your software might contain a vulnerability which can be attacked. If
> it's not running as an administrator, you don't have serious problems.
>
> Alun Harford
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nweissma External

Since: Mar 20, 2007 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: User Account Control, Security [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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my first 2 trojans (when i was more of a newbie than i am now) came from
downloading from the ms portal called "marketplace," which listed cnet as the
sponsor. i learned later - www.spywarewarrior.com -- that cnet is a sewer of
rogue antispyware.
"Robert Moir" wrote:
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> "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me.RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:461fee66$0$97253$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
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> > I may be committing a "mortal sin" according to many other users, but I
> > haven't used any antivirus product on my XP and Vista PCs since I got
> > them!
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> To be honest, I have often run without antivirus and been problem-free
> myself, however that would be very poor advice to give out to others who
> from the fact they're asking about basic things are clearly not going to be
> in the same position of awareness to judge risks for themselves properly.
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> > I don't click on email attachments, I only download files from known,
> > reputable web sites (CNet, MS, etc), and I don't go to web sites that
> > might be problematic.
>
> It's worth pointing out that the thing about trusted sites is that you trust
> them not to *intentionally* send you infected downloads. Same with email
> attatchments from friends (I assume you'll concede that while you don't have
> to open these apparently, you are not the entire world and some of us *do*
> have to open some sometimes).
>
> You can trust someone not to hurt you intentionally, and that trust might be
> very well placed, but even the best have accidents and bad days. Microsoft
> have offered virus infected documents for download before now, for example.
>
> --
> Robert Moir
> http://www.rhymeswithgeek.com
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SoulLover External

Since: May 17, 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:39 am Post subject: RE: User Account Control, Security [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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I'm no expert, but IMHO as with all things this depends on your individual
situation. My experience has been that as a general rule, if you limit and
filter the types of programs and files you use/store (as in getting them from
a trusted source) and if you use common sense when running and managing your
computer (that is if you are blessed with much common sense) then you should
be fine without it. As for the latter, if you think you are lacking common
sense, I'm not sure where to purchase that. If that's you then good luck.
"CJ Rom" wrote:
> I am the only user of my computer - do I really need UAC enabled?
> With Windows Defender and firewall protection do I really need third-party
> antivirus and firewall? |
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Mike External

Since: Jun 09, 2006 Posts: 385
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: User Account Control, Security [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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I have a web application, a file viewer, that won't work if I have UAC on.
What do you think the problem is?... By the way I have this file viewer
installed on another vista machine and it work ok with UAC on... I don't know
what the differences are between the two systems....
"Mark" wrote:
> I don't think UAC will help that, most programs will still run the same way
> they always did, with the same privileges, except for some secure areas. I
> think the real advantage (as well as the real pain) is how it prompts for
> everything. With UAC on, it prompts before doing anything it considers
> important. This can be a real pain when it prompts 4 times "are you really
> sure?" just to delete a folder, but when you are on a website and it pops up
> and prompts you if its ok to install a keylogger, I think you will be happy.
>
> Of course its functionality is limited right now because it gives such
> limited information, 95% of the time it just says "unknown program", even
> many Microsoft apps pup up with "unknown program"
>
> "Alun Harford" wrote:
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> > Jesper wrote:
> > >> I am the only user of my computer - do I really need UAC enabled?
> > >
> > > Yes. It has nothing to do with protecting you from other users on your
> > > computer. It is about ensuring that you do not have to be an administrator
> > > all the time. When you run as an admin the slightest misclick can spell
> > > disaster.
> >
> > Or no misclick.
> > Your software might contain a vulnerability which can be attacked. If
> > it's not running as an administrator, you don't have serious problems.
> >
> > Alun Harford
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