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I tried several times to get Gmail to send from my computer Windows Mail. It
won't. I will just send my emails from the office.

Thanks for your help.

wpr




"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> There are always workarounds for problems like yours.
> You could get a free Gmail account and use it for all your
> sending chores, since Gmail will send regardless of where
> you connect from.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "wpr" <wpr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F2BCF023-0763-4348-B997-5EF9DACD60BD@microsoft.com...
> > Gary,
> > You are right. I can send from the office (oglecom's IP) but not the house
> > (the other company's IP). I will just leave it that way.
> > But like you said it is strange my wife doesn't have the same problem on her
> > computer.
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > wpr
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> Well, you can't just try a bunch of port numbers and hope one of them
> >> works. You should only try what your ISP makes available.
> >> Most ISPs have an online self-help page that explains what ports
> >> their mail servers work on.
> >>
> >> From what you said before, it appears to me that the only time
> >> sending fails is when you use your Oglecom (office) account
> >> while connected to your home ISP.
> >>
> >> What doesn't make sense, though, is that your wife can send from
> >> her Oglecom account while connected to the home ISP. By all
> >> rules of logic, her sending should fail also.
> >>
> >> I still think the problem is ISP-related because when you carry
> >> your laptop to the office, you can send fine from there.
> >>
> >> What would happen if on your laptop you changed your
> >> Oglecom account so that it uses the home ISP outgoing
> >> mail server?
> >>
> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >>
> >> "wpr" <wpr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1010C740-4DFE-4BF1-B6D9-35DDE7201D81@microsoft.com...
> >> > Gary I appreciate you taking time to help me with this. Esp on a Sunday.
> >> > I tried both 465 and 587 with no luck.
> >> > I check my wife's computer (she has the old outlook express program. ) The
> >> > smtp is set at 25 and I could send an email via oglecom from her program. So
> >> > I don't think the problem is ISP related. But what do I know.
> >> >
> >> > Here is the last error message that I got when my outgoing email failed:
> >> >
> >> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'Re: Juda Grain', Account:
> >> > 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL):
> >> > No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Just so you know- I tried sending 4 ways. I did both port numbers you
> >> > suggested and I tried to send a message when the box "My server requires
> >> > authentication" was checked and unchecked. When checked I went to the next
> >> > screen and put my user name and password in a 2nd time.
> >> >
> >> > wpr
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
> >> >> As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
> >> >> unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
> >> >> Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
> >> >> anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
> >> >> implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
> >> >> If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
> >> >> 25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
> >> >> needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
> >> >> have to be a matched pair.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >> >>
> >> >> "wpr" <wpr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hello Gary,
> >> >> > Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
> >> >> > have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
> >> >> > was on the other provider's connection.
> >> >> > Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
> >> >> > b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
> >> >> > an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
> >> >> > internet service.
> >> >> > 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
> >> >> > different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
> >> >> > the one I posted.
> >> >> > 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
> >> >> > account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
> >> >> > nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
> >> >> > at all.
> >> >> > 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
> >> >> > type of email. Now matter what the address.
> >> >> > wpr
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
> >> >> >> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
> >> >> >> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
> >> >> >> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
> >> >> >> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "wpr" <wpr.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
> >> >> >> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
> >> >> >> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
> >> >> >> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
> >> >> >> > appreciated.
> >> >> >> > Here is the error message:
> >> >> >> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
> >> >> >> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
> >> >> >> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
> >> >> >> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
> >> >> >> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
> >> >> >> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
> >> >> >> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
> >> >> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

All I can say is that Gmail works for just about everyone who has tried it.
If you get a Gmail error message, I'll be glad to analyze it.

Gary VanderMolen

"wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1169383A-E590-4647-A36F-592E1E807EBE@microsoft.com...
>I tried several times to get Gmail to send from my computer Windows Mail. It
> won't. I will just send my emails from the office.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> wpr
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> There are always workarounds for problems like yours.
>> You could get a free Gmail account and use it for all your
>> sending chores, since Gmail will send regardless of where
>> you connect from.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F2BCF023-0763-4348-B997-5EF9DACD60BD@microsoft.com...
>> > Gary,
>> > You are right. I can send from the office (oglecom's IP) but not the house
>> > (the other company's IP). I will just leave it that way.
>> > But like you said it is strange my wife doesn't have the same problem on her
>> > computer.
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > wpr
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, you can't just try a bunch of port numbers and hope one of them
>> >> works. You should only try what your ISP makes available.
>> >> Most ISPs have an online self-help page that explains what ports
>> >> their mail servers work on.
>> >>
>> >> From what you said before, it appears to me that the only time
>> >> sending fails is when you use your Oglecom (office) account
>> >> while connected to your home ISP.
>> >>
>> >> What doesn't make sense, though, is that your wife can send from
>> >> her Oglecom account while connected to the home ISP. By all
>> >> rules of logic, her sending should fail also.
>> >>
>> >> I still think the problem is ISP-related because when you carry
>> >> your laptop to the office, you can send fine from there.
>> >>
>> >> What would happen if on your laptop you changed your
>> >> Oglecom account so that it uses the home ISP outgoing
>> >> mail server?
>> >>
>> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >>
>> >> "wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1010C740-4DFE-4BF1-B6D9-35DDE7201D81@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Gary I appreciate you taking time to help me with this. Esp on a Sunday.
>> >> > I tried both 465 and 587 with no luck.
>> >> > I check my wife's computer (she has the old outlook express program. ) The
>> >> > smtp is set at 25 and I could send an email via oglecom from her program. So
>> >> > I don't think the problem is ISP related. But what do I know.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is the last error message that I got when my outgoing email failed:
>> >> >
>> >> > The connection to the server has failed. Subject 'Re: Juda Grain', Account:
>> >> > 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL):
>> >> > No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Just so you know- I tried sending 4 ways. I did both port numbers you
>> >> > suggested and I tried to send a message when the box "My server requires
>> >> > authentication" was checked and unchecked. When checked I went to the next
>> >> > screen and put my user name and password in a 2nd time.
>> >> >
>> >> > wpr
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thanks for clarifying your scenario.
>> >> >> As a general rule, ISPs will block outgoing mail on port 25 (SMTP)
>> >> >> unless your computer is connected to their network at that moment.
>> >> >> Not all do this, but most of the bigger ISPs do that blocking for
>> >> >> anti-spamming reasons. It is possible that Oglecom only recently
>> >> >> implemented this restriction. The workaround is as follows:
>> >> >> If either of your two ISPs allows outgoing mail on a port other than
>> >> >> 25 (typically 465 or 587), use *that* SMTP server for all your sending
>> >> >> needs. There is no requirement that the incoming and outgoing servers
>> >> >> have to be a matched pair.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E722E986-7AFF-44CA-9BA4-311428CFB43A@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hello Gary,
>> >> >> > Let me see if I can answer all your questions.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1. I have a laptop. Oglecom is the provider that I have at my office. I
>> >> >> > have another provider at home. When I tried to send the message yesterday, I
>> >> >> > was on the other provider's connection.
>> >> >> > Pause- a) It has never been an issue in the past 2 months.
>> >> >> > b) My wife has a computer with an Oglecom address and she was able to send
>> >> >> > an email thru her Oglecom account even though the house is on the other
>> >> >> > internet service.
>> >> >> > 2. I had tried to send emails to 4-5 different people. They all had
>> >> >> > different addresses. None of them worked. They all had similar messages to
>> >> >> > the one I posted.
>> >> >> > 3. As for the message I posted, at that time I was sending it to a hotmail
>> >> >> > account. I can not use Windows Mail for hotmail accounts they won't upload
>> >> >> > nor download. When I want to use hotmail I have to go online to do anything
>> >> >> > at all.
>> >> >> > 4. In the past I could send to any type of account. Now I can not send any
>> >> >> > type of email. Now matter what the address.
>> >> >> > wpr
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> When you attempted to send that message, was Oglecom
>> >> >> >> providing your Internet connection at that moment, or were
>> >> >> >> you connected to the Internet in some other fashion?
>> >> >> >> Were you sending To or From that hotmail.com address?
>> >> >> >> Are you able to send to non-hotmail addresses?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Gary VanderMolen
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "wpr" <wpr RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8AEA8746-E164-4E0E-9A01-D9E0C7B34D02@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >I have been using my Windows Mail program for a couple of months. Then today
>> >> >> >> > I ended up w/ the same problem. I can receive but not send.
>> >> >> >> > I have deleted my account and created a new one. I have deleted my out
>> >> >> >> > going email. I don't know what else to do. A little help would be
>> >> >> >> > appreciated.
>> >> >> >> > Here is the error message:
>> >> >> >> > The message could not be sent. The authentication setting might not be
>> >> >> >> > correct for your outgoing e-mail [SMTP] server. For help solving this
>> >> >> >> > problem, go to Help, search for "Troubleshoot Windows Mail", and read the
>> >> >> >> > "I'm having problems sending e-mail" section. If you need help determining
>> >> >> >> > the proper server settings, please contact your e-mail service provider.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The rejected e-mail address was 'Dinky6547@hotmail.com'. Subject 'test',
>> >> >> >> > Account: 'Wayne', Server: 'smtp.oglecom.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
>> >> >> >> > Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25,
>> >> >> >> > Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
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