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Patrick Casher External

Since: Feb 22, 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: Slow responce. Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>vista>mail (more info?) |
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| Windows mail slow response especially when first starting. I can live with
it on my laptop but wife is complaining about desktop an I thinking of
having her use web mail. Does number of saved emails have anything to do
with it? Transferred a lot from XP Express. Also notice when switching
from on newsgroup to another and there are a lot of posts it takes a while.
Thanks in advance.
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wannabe123 External

Since: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: RE: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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I am having the same problem.I don't think it is related to the number of
saved messages in Windows Mail because I only have 1 or 2 and keep everything
deleted that I don't want to keep.This started about three weeks or a month
ago.The program was flawless and very quick till something happened that
slowed Windows Mail down on this Vista OS.I have noticed though that if you
go through all the folders after opening the mail the first time and wait
till they open then leave the program open after that it seems to move faster
the rest of the day but still not as it should.
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Mark Cason
"Patrick Casher" wrote:
> Windows mail slow response especially when first starting. I can live with
> it on my laptop but wife is complaining about desktop an I thinking of
> having her use web mail. Does number of saved emails have anything to do
> with it? Transferred a lot from XP Express. Also notice when switching
> from on newsgroup to another and there are a lot of posts it takes a while.
> Thanks in advance.
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Patrick Casher External

Since: Feb 22, 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Oh the laptop is an HP with AMD X2 TL50 1.6gig with 1gig ram and the desktop
is an HP with AMD X2 3800+ 2.0gig with 1 gig ram. Both running Vista Home
Premium.
"Patrick Casher" <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:vLd9i.6494$u56.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
> Windows mail slow response especially when first starting. I can live
> with it on my laptop but wife is complaining about desktop an I thinking
> of having her use web mail. Does number of saved emails have anything to
> do with it? Transferred a lot from XP Express. Also notice when
> switching from on newsgroup to another and there are a lot of posts it
> takes a while. Thanks in advance. |
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Peter in New Zealand External

Since: May 18, 2007 Posts: 30
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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"Patrick Casher" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
news:asRai.32632$Um6.9407@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> Oh the laptop is an HP with AMD X2 TL50 1.6gig with 1gig ram and the
> desktop is an HP with AMD X2 3800+ 2.0gig with 1 gig ram. Both running
> Vista Home Premium.
>
> "Patrick Casher" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:vLd9i.6494$u56.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>> Windows mail slow response especially when first starting. I can live
>> with it on my laptop but wife is complaining about desktop an I thinking
>> of having her use web mail. Does number of saved emails have anything to
>> do with it? Transferred a lot from XP Express. Also notice when
>> switching from on newsgroup to another and there are a lot of posts it
>> takes a while. Thanks in advance.
>
Hi. Re slowing down of Windows Mail, I am noticing the same thing, and I'm
on IMAP, so messages are not stored locally. I tried compacting the
newsgroups but it didn't seem to make any difference. Love to know if anyone
more experienced than me can come up with a solution.
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Peter in New Zealand. (Pull the plug out to reply.)
Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
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Cheyenne External

Since: Jun 11, 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Open Windows Calender and then close it after a couple of minutes.
"Peter in New Zealand" <peterbalplug RemoveThis @xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> "Patrick Casher" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:asRai.32632$Um6.9407@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
>> Oh the laptop is an HP with AMD X2 TL50 1.6gig with 1gig ram and the
>> desktop is an HP with AMD X2 3800+ 2.0gig with 1 gig ram. Both running
>> Vista Home Premium.
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>> "Patrick Casher" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:vLd9i.6494$u56.1339@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Windows mail slow response especially when first starting. I can live
>>> with it on my laptop but wife is complaining about desktop an I thinking
>>> of having her use web mail. Does number of saved emails have anything
>>> to do with it? Transferred a lot from XP Express. Also notice when
>>> switching from on newsgroup to another and there are a lot of posts it
>>> takes a while. Thanks in advance.
>>
>
> Hi. Re slowing down of Windows Mail, I am noticing the same thing, and I'm
> on IMAP, so messages are not stored locally. I tried compacting the
> newsgroups but it didn't seem to make any difference. Love to know if
> anyone more experienced than me can come up with a solution.
>
> --
> Peter in New Zealand. (Pull the plug out to reply.)
> Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and
> compulsive computer fiddler. |
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keencyclist External

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Jo External

Since: Jul 15, 2006 Posts: 177
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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I tried uninstalling that update and had all kinds of problems with Outlook
that I couldn't solve. I had to do a system restore. I now find that
Outlook performs ok if I start it with the mail screen rather than the inbox
screen, but Windows Mail is still snail like. It is like working on a 10
year old computer...and I have a new computer with a Core 2 duo processor, 2
GB memory and scads of HD space. It's painful to write or read anything
using it.
"keencyclist" wrote:
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> If this helps anyone I found by uninstalling update KB931768 vista mail
> works super fast. Dont know why or how important that update is but I
> personaly like it all to work fast.
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Gary VanderMolen External

Since: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 3899
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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I seem to recall that this issue was solved quite a few weeks ago.
The slowness is caused by Spybot and similar third party programs
adding thousands of sites to the Restricted Sites list in IE.
Gary VanderMolen
"Jo" <Jo.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:29A78532-3328-41E8-A8CF-526AA060CB2B@microsoft.com...
>I tried uninstalling that update and had all kinds of problems with Outlook
> that I couldn't solve. I had to do a system restore. I now find that
> Outlook performs ok if I start it with the mail screen rather than the inbox
> screen, but Windows Mail is still snail like. It is like working on a 10
> year old computer...and I have a new computer with a Core 2 duo processor, 2
> GB memory and scads of HD space. It's painful to write or read anything
> using it.
>
> "keencyclist" wrote:
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>> If this helps anyone I found by uninstalling update KB931768 vista mail
>> works super fast. Dont know why or how important that update is but I
>> personaly like it all to work fast.
>>
>>
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keencyclist External

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Jo External

Since: Jul 15, 2006 Posts: 177
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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I don't have Spybot installed and my windows mail is still extremely slow
unless I first go to the calendar page. I no longer have the problem on
Outlook, so that seems to have been fixed.
"keencyclist" wrote:
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> Excellent stuff about Spybot, searching the web I found out if you undo
> the immunise in sbybot all works fine. I then just uninstalled Spybot.
>
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Gary VanderMolen External

Since: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 3899
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Smart move. Much of the third party security software is not
yet fully compatible with Vista.
Gary VanderMolen
"keencyclist" <keencyclist.2s3rzl DeleteThis @DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message news:keencyclist.2s3rzl@DoNotSpam.com...
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> Excellent stuff about Spybot, searching the web I found out if you undo
> the immunise in sbybot all works fine. I then just uninstalled Spybot. |
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Jo External

Since: Jul 15, 2006 Posts: 177
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Slow response. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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It seems to me that all Spybot does is add lots of sites to IE Explorer's
restricted site list. I have another program that did the same thing. I
don't see how that is different from adding them yourself. And I wonder why
having 1000's of sites in that list should slow down the mail program, which
isn't trying to access internet sites. All I'm trying to do it type an email
or display an email previously downloaded. It is also strange that entering
the calendar program once per session solves the slowdown. But it does!
"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> Smart move. Much of the third party security software is not
> yet fully compatible with Vista.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
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> "keencyclist" <keencyclist.2s3rzl DeleteThis @DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message news:keencyclist.2s3rzl@DoNotSpam.com...
> >
> > Excellent stuff about Spybot, searching the web I found out if you undo
> > the immunise in sbybot all works fine. I then just uninstalled Spybot.
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE External

Since: Jul 06, 2006 Posts: 1980
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Slow response. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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"Jo" <Jo.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C042B004-B231-4797-A8ED-06BAF640B5FA@microsoft.com...
> It seems to me that all Spybot does is add lots of sites to IE Explorer's
> restricted site list. I have another program that did the same thing. I
> don't see how that is different from adding them yourself. And I wonder
> why
> having 1000's of sites in that list should slow down the mail program,
> which
> isn't trying to access internet sites. All I'm trying to do it type an
> email
> or display an email previously downloaded. It is also strange that
> entering
> the calendar program once per session solves the slowdown. But it does!
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
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>> Smart move. Much of the third party security software is not
>> yet fully compatible with Vista.
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
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>>
>> "keencyclist" <keencyclist.2s3rzl.RemoveThis@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:keencyclist.2s3rzl@DoNotSpam.com...
>> >
>> > Excellent stuff about Spybot, searching the web I found out if you
>> > undo
>> > the immunise in sbybot all works fine. I then just uninstalled Spybot.
>>
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It's not IE's restricted sites, but adding restrictions to Registry keys
disallowing any changes.
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail. |
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KristleBawl External

Since: May 20, 2007 Posts: 247
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Slow response. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Because the mail program has security set to the shared browser restricted
zone by default.
KB
"Jo" wrote in message
news:C042B004-B231-4797-A8ED-06BAF640B5FA@microsoft.com...
> It seems to me that all Spybot does is add lots of sites to IE Explorer's
> restricted site list. I have another program that did the same thing. I
> don't see how that is different from adding them yourself. And I wonder
> why
> having 1000's of sites in that list should slow down the mail program,
> which
> isn't trying to access internet sites. All I'm trying to do it type an
> email
> or display an email previously downloaded. It is also strange that
> entering
> the calendar program once per session solves the slowdown. But it does! |
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Patrick Casher External

Since: Feb 22, 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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I think I would rather live with the problem or use an alternative program
then compromise security patches or my restricted sites protection.
"Jo" <Jo.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2F6F6833-FF75-47D4-9D1E-E0E38E2BBFDB@microsoft.com...
>I don't have Spybot installed and my windows mail is still extremely slow
> unless I first go to the calendar page. I no longer have the problem on
> Outlook, so that seems to have been fixed.
>
> "keencyclist" wrote:
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>> Excellent stuff about Spybot, searching the web I found out if you undo
>> the immunise in sbybot all works fine. I then just uninstalled Spybot.
>>
>>
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>> keencyclist
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Gary VanderMolen External

Since: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 3899
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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According to Microsoft, the restricted sites protection is
inappropriately used by Spybot, hence the incompatibility.
Gary VanderMolen
"Patrick Casher" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message news:Md%bi.16267$y_7.9231@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>I think I would rather live with the problem or use an alternative program then compromise security patches or my restricted
>sites protection.
>
> "Jo" <Jo.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F6F6833-FF75-47D4-9D1E-E0E38E2BBFDB@microsoft.com...
>>I don't have Spybot installed and my windows mail is still extremely slow
>> unless I first go to the calendar page. I no longer have the problem on
>> Outlook, so that seems to have been fixed.
>>
>> "keencyclist" wrote:
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>>>
>>> Excellent stuff about Spybot, searching the web I found out if you undo
>>> the immunise in sbybot all works fine. I then just uninstalled Spybot.
>>>
>>>
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>>> keencyclist
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Jo External

Since: Jul 15, 2006 Posts: 177
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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I don't have KB931768 on my computer, nor do I have Spybot or Spyware
Blaster. I have read that the problem could be caused by one of the junk mail
filters. However, I don't know how to uninstall these. Can you please advise?
Looking at my list of updates, I realilze that the problem with Windows Mail
began even before I installed any of these updates. I am perplexed and losing
over an hour of productivity every day, just waiting for Windows Mail to
respond.
Thank you for any wisdom you can impart.
Jo Frustrated
"keencyclist" wrote:
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> If this helps anyone I found by uninstalling update KB931768 vista mail
> works super fast. Dont know why or how important that update is but I
> personaly like it all to work fast.
>
>
> --
> keencyclist
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Gary VanderMolen External

Since: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 3899
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Slow responce. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Why continue being perplexed by WM problems?
Just upgrade to WLM:
http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
Gary VanderMolen
"Jo" <Jo DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A7CDF3F0-EE3D-4BCE-949B-3451166AAAB7@microsoft.com...
>I don't have KB931768 on my computer, nor do I have Spybot or Spyware
> Blaster. I have read that the problem could be caused by one of the junk mail
> filters. However, I don't know how to uninstall these. Can you please advise?
>
> Looking at my list of updates, I realilze that the problem with Windows Mail
> began even before I installed any of these updates. I am perplexed and losing
> over an hour of productivity every day, just waiting for Windows Mail to
> respond.
>
> Thank you for any wisdom you can impart.
>
> Jo Frustrated |
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Jo External

Since: Jul 15, 2006 Posts: 177
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Slow responce--may be solved! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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The only reason I have not Vista removed from my new computer is because my
tech is on vacation. Now maybe I won't need to. I still have a major issue
with the DEP shutting down IE, but solving the e-mail problem was the biggest
part of my frustration since my business requires me to handle about 100
e-mails each day. With 20- to 30-second delays on each message, you can
understand my unhappiness. You may have solved my problem. I had not heard of
Windows Live Mail. On your advice, I just downloaded it and it is
lightning-fast . It did not import my sent mail, only incoming mail. I hope I
can handle that. Also, I still have to import my contacts list, as well as
e-mails that are on another computer--but these are just details. Windows
Mail was always slow, even when it was new and there were no messages in the
folders.Windows Live Mail seems far superior. I hope it will continue to be
so. Thank you so much for the lead.
--
Jo Frustrated
"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> Why continue being perplexed by WM problems?
> Just upgrade to WLM:
> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
> "Jo" <Jo DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A7CDF3F0-EE3D-4BCE-949B-3451166AAAB7@microsoft.com...
> >I don't have KB931768 on my computer, nor do I have Spybot or Spyware
> > Blaster. I have read that the problem could be caused by one of the junk mail
> > filters. However, I don't know how to uninstall these. Can you please advise?
> >
> > Looking at my list of updates, I realilze that the problem with Windows Mail
> > began even before I installed any of these updates. I am perplexed and losing
> > over an hour of productivity every day, just waiting for Windows Mail to
> > respond.
> >
> > Thank you for any wisdom you can impart.
> >
> > Jo Frustrated
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Gary VanderMolen External

Since: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 3899
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Slow responce--may be solved! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Thanks for being another successful WLM adopter.
I get paid $1 each. (Just kidding)
Gary VanderMolen
"Jo" <Jo.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C76FDAAF-A195-4E18-A7A2-6B9CEB7F4CA2@microsoft.com...
> The only reason I have not Vista removed from my new computer is because my
> tech is on vacation. Now maybe I won't need to. I still have a major issue
> with the DEP shutting down IE, but solving the e-mail problem was the biggest
> part of my frustration since my business requires me to handle about 100
> e-mails each day. With 20- to 30-second delays on each message, you can
> understand my unhappiness. You may have solved my problem. I had not heard of
> Windows Live Mail. On your advice, I just downloaded it and it is
> lightning-fast . It did not import my sent mail, only incoming mail. I hope I
> can handle that. Also, I still have to import my contacts list, as well as
> e-mails that are on another computer--but these are just details. Windows
> Mail was always slow, even when it was new and there were no messages in the
> folders.Windows Live Mail seems far superior. I hope it will continue to be
> so. Thank you so much for the lead.
> --
> Jo Frustrated
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> Why continue being perplexed by WM problems?
>> Just upgrade to WLM:
>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>
>> Gary VanderMolen
>>
>> "Jo" <Jo.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A7CDF3F0-EE3D-4BCE-949B-3451166AAAB7@microsoft.com...
>> >I don't have KB931768 on my computer, nor do I have Spybot or Spyware
>> > Blaster. I have read that the problem could be caused by one of the junk mail
>> > filters. However, I don't know how to uninstall these. Can you please advise?
>> >
>> > Looking at my list of updates, I realilze that the problem with Windows Mail
>> > began even before I installed any of these updates. I am perplexed and losing
>> > over an hour of productivity every day, just waiting for Windows Mail to
>> > respond.
>> >
>> > Thank you for any wisdom you can impart.
>> >
>> > Jo Frustrated
>>
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