Slow copying files over network

Dimpz · External Since: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 4

Hi,

I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.

When copying files from my windows 2003 machine onto vista it does it at
only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.

I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?

I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
Yukon drivers for vista.

thanks.

Dan · External Since: Feb 12, 2007 Posts: 10

On Feb 10, 4:33 am, Dimpz <nos... DeleteThis @please.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
>
> When copying files from my windows 2003 machine onto vista it does it at
> only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
>
> I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
>
> I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> Yukon drivers for vista.
>
> thanks.

I'm having the same issue and am searching for a solution, I get about
8MB/sec max. Unacceptable.
Dan

Rod · External Since: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 30

same issue here. I get about 3-4mb /sec using gigabit switch wrtg350n and
netgear gigabit card.

"Dan" wrote:

> On Feb 10, 4:33 am, Dimpz <nos... RemoveThis @please.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
> >
> > When copying files from my windows 2003 machine onto vista it does it at
> > only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> > do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
> >
> > I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> > solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
> >
> > I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> > Yukon drivers for vista.
> >
> > thanks.
>
> I'm having the same issue and am searching for a solution, I get about
> 8MB/sec max. Unacceptable.
> Dan
>
>

Rod · External Since: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 30

"Rod" wrote:

> same issue here. I get about 3-4mb /sec using gigabit switch wrtg350n and
> netgear gigabit card.
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
> > On Feb 10, 4:33 am, Dimpz <nos....TakeThisOut@please.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
> > >
> > > When copying files from my windows 2003 machine onto vista it does it at
> > > only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> > > do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
> > >
> > > I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> > > solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
> > >
> > > I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> > > Yukon drivers for vista.
> > >
> > > thanks.
> >
> > I'm having the same issue and am searching for a solution, I get about
> > 8MB/sec max. Unacceptable.
> > Dan
> >
> >

Stuart [MVP] · External Since: Nov 20, 2006 Posts: 78

This article (just released) may address your problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us

Regards,

Stuart.
--------

"Dimpz" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
>
> When copying files from my windows 2003 machine onto vista it does it at
> only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
>
> I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
>
> I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> Yukon drivers for vista.
>
> thanks.
>

Rod · External Since: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 30

Thanks Tom!

I'll give it a try - maybe it will improve the copying time too.

How do i actually get the patch - there does not seem to be any links to
download. I guess i have to request the patch from MS? Not sure of the
quickest way to do that.

Thanks

"Stuart [MVP]" wrote:

> This article (just released) may address your problem:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us
>
> Regards,
>
> Stuart.
> --------
>
>
> "Dimpz" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
> >
> > When copying files from my windows 2003 machine onto vista it does it at
> > only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> > do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
> >
> > I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> > solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
> >
> > I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> > Yukon drivers for vista.
> >
> > thanks.
> >

stevenpoole93 · External Since: Feb 14, 2007 Posts: 2

On Feb 14, 11:57 am, Rod <R....RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Thanks Tom!
>
> I'll give it a try - maybe it will improve thecopyingtime too.
>
> How do i actually get the patch - there does not seem to be any links to
> download. I guess i have to request the patch from MS? Not sure of the
> quickest way to do that.
>
> Thanks
>
> "Stuart [MVP]" wrote:
> > This article (just released) may address your problem:
>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Stuart.
> > --------
>
> > "Dimpz" wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
>
> > > Whencopyingfilesfrom my windows 2003 machine ontovistait does it at
> > > only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> > > do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
>
> > > I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> > > solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
>
> > > I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> > > Yukon drivers forvista.
>
> > > thanks.

Can you post if this resolves your issue?

Dan · External Since: Feb 12, 2007 Posts: 10

On Feb 14, 3:54 pm, stevenpool....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 14, 11:57 am, Rod <R....TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks Tom!
>
> > I'll give it a try - maybe it will improve thecopyingtime too.
>
> > How do i actually get the patch - there does not seem to be any links to
> > download. I guess i have to request the patch from MS? Not sure of the
> > quickest way to do that.
>
> > Thanks
>
> > "Stuart [MVP]" wrote:
> > > This article (just released) may address your problem:
>
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us
>
> > > Regards,
>
> > > Stuart.
> > > --------
>
> > > "Dimpz" wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
>
> > > > Whencopyingfilesfrom my windows 2003 machine ontovistait does it at
> > > > only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> > > > do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
>
> > > > I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> > > > solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
>
> > > > I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> > > > Yukon drivers forvista.
>
> > > > thanks.
>
> Can you post if this resolves your issue?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry everyone, but I tried the patch and it didn't help with the
speed of the copy. I suspected it wouldn't because the article said
it addresses a "hang" while copying from a network drive - my problem
isn't a hang but a slow (5-8MB/sec) transfer. I had to call Microsoft
to get the patch 1-800-936-3500 make sure you have the article ID when
you call. Or you can email me and I can send it to you with the
password. We will get to the bottom of this, it's just a question of
when.

Dan

stevenpoole93 · External Since: Feb 14, 2007 Posts: 2

On Feb 14, 5:40 pm, "Dan" <dfre....DeleteThis@macroworks.com> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 3:54 pm, stevenpool....DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 11:57 am, Rod <R....DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > Thanks Tom!
>
> > > I'll give it a try - maybe it will improve thecopyingtime too.
>
> > > How do i actually get the patch - there does not seem to be any links to
> > > download. I guess i have to request the patch from MS? Not sure of the
> > > quickest way to do that.
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > "Stuart [MVP]" wrote:
> > > > This article (just released) may address your problem:
>
> > > >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us
>
> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Stuart.
> > > > --------
>
> > > > "Dimpz" wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
>
> > > > > Whencopyingfilesfrom my windows 2003 machine ontovistait does it at
> > > > > only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> > > > > do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
>
> > > > > I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> > > > > solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
>
> > > > > I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> > > > > Yukon drivers forvista.
>
> > > > > thanks.
>
> > Can you post if this resolves your issue?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry everyone, but I tried the patch and it didn't help with the
> speed of the copy. I suspected it wouldn't because the article said
> it addresses a "hang" whilecopyingfrom a network drive - my problem
> isn't a hang but aslow(5-8MB/sec) transfer. I had to call Microsoft
> to get the patch 1-800-936-3500 make sure you have the article ID when
> you call. Or you can email me and I can send it to you with the
> password. We will get to the bottom of this, it's just a question of
> when.
>
> Dan

have you guys tried turning of the Remote Differential Compression
feature?

Dan · External Since: Feb 12, 2007 Posts: 10

On Feb 14, 8:54 pm, stevenpool....DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 14, 5:40 pm, "Dan" <dfre....DeleteThis@macroworks.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 3:54 pm, stevenpool....DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 14, 11:57 am, Rod <R....DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Thanks Tom!
>
> > > > I'll give it a try - maybe it will improve thecopyingtime too.
>
> > > > How do i actually get the patch - there does not seem to be any links to
> > > > download. I guess i have to request the patch from MS? Not sure of the
> > > > quickest way to do that.
>
> > > > Thanks
>
> > > > "Stuart [MVP]" wrote:
> > > > > This article (just released) may address your problem:
>
> > > > >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us
>
> > > > > Regards,
>
> > > > > Stuart.
> > > > > --------
>
> > > > > "Dimpz" wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
>
> > > > > > Whencopyingfilesfrom my windows 2003 machine ontovistait does it at
> > > > > > only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> > > > > > do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
>
> > > > > > I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> > > > > > solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
>
> > > > > > I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> > > > > > Yukon drivers forvista.
>
> > > > > > thanks.
>
> > > Can you post if this resolves your issue?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Sorry everyone, but I tried the patch and it didn't help with the
> > speed of the copy. I suspected it wouldn't because the article said
> > it addresses a "hang" whilecopyingfrom a network drive - my problem
> > isn't a hang but aslow(5-8MB/sec) transfer. I had to call Microsoft
> > to get the patch 1-800-936-3500 make sure you have the article ID when
> > you call. Or you can email me and I can send it to you with the
> > password. We will get to the bottom of this, it's just a question of
> > when.
>
> > Dan
>
> have you guys tried turning of the Remote Differential Compression
> feature?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, that was one of the first things I tried - thanks though

Dan

Rod · External Since: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 30

yes, turned off Remote Differential Compression, but had no impact.
i'd be happy with just 10mbs - only getting 3-4mbs now

"stevenpoole93@hotmail.com" wrote:

> On Feb 14, 5:40 pm, "Dan" <dfre....TakeThisOut@macroworks.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 14, 3:54 pm, stevenpool....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 14, 11:57 am, Rod <R....TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Thanks Tom!
> >
> > > > I'll give it a try - maybe it will improve thecopyingtime too.
> >
> > > > How do i actually get the patch - there does not seem to be any links to
> > > > download. I guess i have to request the patch from MS? Not sure of the
> > > > quickest way to do that.
> >
> > > > Thanks
> >
> > > > "Stuart [MVP]" wrote:
> > > > > This article (just released) may address your problem:
> >
> > > > >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us
> >
> > > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > > Stuart.
> > > > > --------
> >
> > > > > "Dimpz" wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Hi,
> >
> > > > > > I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.
> >
> > > > > > Whencopyingfilesfrom my windows 2003 machine ontovistait does it at
> > > > > > only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
> > > > > > do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.
> >
> > > > > > I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
> > > > > > solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?
> >
> > > > > > I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
> > > > > > Yukon drivers forvista.
> >
> > > > > > thanks.
> >
> > > Can you post if this resolves your issue?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Sorry everyone, but I tried the patch and it didn't help with the
> > speed of the copy. I suspected it wouldn't because the article said
> > it addresses a "hang" whilecopyingfrom a network drive - my problem
> > isn't a hang but aslow(5-8MB/sec) transfer. I had to call Microsoft
> > to get the patch 1-800-936-3500 make sure you have the article ID when
> > you call. Or you can email me and I can send it to you with the
> > password. We will get to the bottom of this, it's just a question of
> > when.
> >
> > Dan
>
> have you guys tried turning of the Remote Differential Compression
> feature?
>
>

Blair · External Since: Jun 11, 2006 Posts: 7

I have a similar issue, and thought I would share my findings.

One Vista Computer, One XP computer.

Gigabit NICs, Netgear Gigabit Switch.

The XP computer has two shares -- one large, one small. Both shared are the
entire remote volume on the XP system.

The Vista computer has one share, and used to run XP. When it ran XP there
were no performance issues.

All systems register as being on the same "Local Network" for security groups.

File transfers from:
Vista --> XP Small share - 4-6 MB/sec
Vista --> XP Large share - 700KB/sec
Vista <-- XP Small share - 10 MB/sec
Vista <-- XP Large share - 10 MB/sec
Now, I remote desktop into the XP system, and try the same tests.
XP Large share --> Vista - 11 MB/sec
XP Small share --> Vista - 11 MB/sec
XP Large share <-- Vista - 25 MB/sec
XP Small share <-- Vista - 25 MB/sec

I then set up the IIS FTP server on the XP system, and tried some file
transfers.
Vista --> XP 40 MB/sec
Vista <-- XP 7 MB/sec

I repeated all of the above tests using a crossover cable (to make sure the
switch wasn't the problem) and got similar results. I also repeated the
above tests with identical results with a second NIC.

When trying the same tests with my XP laptop and the XP system, through the
same switch, I max out the 100Mb inteface on the laptop.

With this information, I called Microsoft support, spent a few days on hold,
and got brushed off.

My guess, is that it is something to do with CIFS and security settings. I
have tried various changes in netsh, and gotten nowhere. I also marched
through the services list disabling one at a time, and didn't get anywhere
either. I haven't tried changing the services one at a time and rebooting
between each change. That might be my next attempt.

I might also try WireShark, and see if I can see anything unusual in the
network traffic.

My guess is that once the corporate customers start complaining, Microsoft
will issue a fix. For the time being, I'm stuck with FTP.

If anyone else has compared FTP vs CIFS speeds in a similar test, I would be
interested in the results.

NoWhereMan · External Since: Feb 18, 2007 Posts: 1

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:08:00 -0800, Blair
<Blair.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>My guess is that once the corporate customers start complaining, Microsoft
>will issue a fix. For the time being, I'm stuck with FTP.
>
>If anyone else has compared FTP vs CIFS speeds in a similar test, I would be
>interested in the results.

Something that might help narrow things down. I also have the slow XP
to Vista copy problem.

But I've also noticed one other thing that varies in speed; using
Agent in SSL mode versus not. Normal NNTP port goes off and gets
messages in what I consider normal speed (compoared to my XP machine
running same version to same server). Use the SSL port doing the same
thing and it takes a long time to connect, a long time to log in, a
long time to download a message.

So I'm wondering if encryption methds have something to do with the
slower speed. I did notice that the CPU usage was unusually high while
copying a file from XP to Vista.

vro29 · Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1

I am having the same problem with XP Pro and Vista Home Premium on a Gigabit network.

Vista is my main PC and XP is the file server. When I'm on my main PC file transfers are slow to and from the XP server (4-8MBps). When I'm on the XP server transfers are much faster (20-30MBps) to and from Vista.

I using a spare HD I installed Vista Home Premium on the server and - viola - all transfers speed up to 25-30MBps.

I thought is was just my pc (not much out there when searching for "Slow XP file sharing") - but when searching under "Vista Slow File Share" I found this thread and many others...

I'm just hoping I don't have to buy another Vista License...

-V

IceburgIV · External Since: Mar 21, 2007 Posts: 1

Doesn't help the situation at all, but wanted to let you all know I
have seen the same issues. I am migrating a XP laptop to a Vista
laptop. I transferred all the data in roughtly 10 minutes. Including
pictures, documents, etc. I then took the same network cable into the
Vista laptop and started coping backdown. The ETA is 1.5 days. I
cancelled and reboot after disabling firewalls, and virus scanning,
and all sorts of other things, similiar to what has been tried already
and still have the same issue. I hung up wtih Microsoft after I read
that didn't solve the problem. Beings that I am a MS partner I will
open a ticket and see what I can find out.

boe · External Since: Jan 25, 2007 Posts: 74

Sweet - I've turned off everything possible and even on an unmaged switch,
Vista crawls compared to XP.

<IceburgIV.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174519021.988297.100060@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Doesn't help the situation at all, but wanted to let you all know I
> have seen the same issues. I am migrating a XP laptop to a Vista
> laptop. I transferred all the data in roughtly 10 minutes. Including
> pictures, documents, etc. I then took the same network cable into the
> Vista laptop and started coping backdown. The ETA is 1.5 days. I
> cancelled and reboot after disabling firewalls, and virus scanning,
> and all sorts of other things, similiar to what has been tried already
> and still have the same issue. I hung up wtih Microsoft after I read
> that didn't solve the problem. Beings that I am a MS partner I will
> open a ticket and see what I can find out.
>

prisaz · External Since: Mar 27, 2007 Posts: 1

HEY EVERYONE
Try this. Go to control panel and indexing options. Do not index your system
drive. I turned off indexing on everything I could. When I did this the
network took off. BUG?
The hot fix that Stuart spoke of did fix the lock up but not the speed. With
indexing off I am a much happier camper on the Vista.
This article (just released) may address your problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us

"boe" wrote:

> Sweet - I've turned off everything possible and even on an unmaged switch,
> Vista crawls compared to XP.
>
> <IceburgIV.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174519021.988297.100060@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > Doesn't help the situation at all, but wanted to let you all know I
> > have seen the same issues. I am migrating a XP laptop to a Vista
> > laptop. I transferred all the data in roughtly 10 minutes. Including
> > pictures, documents, etc. I then took the same network cable into the
> > Vista laptop and started coping backdown. The ETA is 1.5 days. I
> > cancelled and reboot after disabling firewalls, and virus scanning,
> > and all sorts of other things, similiar to what has been tried already
> > and still have the same issue. I hung up wtih Microsoft after I read
> > that didn't solve the problem. Beings that I am a MS partner I will
> > open a ticket and see what I can find out.
> >
>
>
>

rockstar · External Since: Apr 21, 2007 Posts: 7

Count me as another one with this issue. It's not even just annoying, it's
absolutely truly pathetic that the windows team let vista ship with this
issue. Microsoft needs a MUCH better beta team.

Neil Harley · External Since: Apr 26, 2007 Posts: 77

rockstar wrote:
> Count me as another one with this issue. It's not even just
> annoying, it's absolutely truly pathetic that the windows team let
> vista ship with this issue. Microsoft needs a MUCH better beta team.

Hey!! We bugged things and it's down to Microsoft to deal with it.

boe · External Since: Jan 25, 2007 Posts: 74

I volunteered to beta but wasn't accepted - funny I found the issue within a
day of testing - but I'm not good enough for the group that passed it out
the door after a year of beta testing.

"rockstar" <rockstar.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A89323CC-7044-46CA-A99F-9F0F77776E0D@microsoft.com...
> Count me as another one with this issue. It's not even just annoying,
> it's
> absolutely truly pathetic that the windows team let vista ship with this
> issue. Microsoft needs a MUCH better beta team.