Email Recovery

RichMc461 · External Since: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 7

The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.

The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or unluckily I
had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One Care. The
unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not compatible with a
64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought to
replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load Windows One
Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a new hard
drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to restore
the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files but not
for the larger of the backed up email. files.
When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows Explorer I
see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders that
indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing. Using two
other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these folders
and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I am
looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook Express. The
later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on the
trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy the files
as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the trial of
5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it would not
so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see the
files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read only
property of these file folders.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE · External Since: Jul 06, 2006 Posts: 1980

"RichMc461" <RichMc461.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
> The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
>
> The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or unluckily
> I
> had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One Care.
> The
> unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not compatible
> with a
> 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought to
> replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load Windows
> One
> Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a new
> hard
> drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to restore
> the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files but not
> for the larger of the backed up email. files.
> When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows Explorer I
> see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders that
> indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing. Using
> two
> other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these folders
> and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I am
> looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook Express.
> The
> later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on the
> trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy the
> files
> as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the trial
> of
> 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it would
> not
> so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
> emails.
> When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see the
> files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read only
> property of these file folders.
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

Your message is very hard to understand. What is Outlook Explorer. You
can't have Outlook Express and Windows Mail on the same machine.
See http://www'oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

RichMc461 · External Since: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 7

Frank,

Thanks for answering. When I said Outlook Explorer I had intended to say
Outlook Express.

Let me see if I can make this clearer. I have two computers. One runs
Windows Vista the other Windows XP. The 5 years worth of emails I want to
restore to my Windows Vista machine I could not restore to either the machine
wth Windows Vista on it or Windows XP. Yet, using Windows Explorer I cans see
the DBX files of approximately the right size and when I used two 3rd party
programs in an attempt to retrieve these emails I was not able to do so
satisfactorily. I was able to copy 5 emails from one folder in the DBX file
format to another folder and in the process convert those 5 emails to the eml
format. But when I used this program, "Mail Recovery for Outlook Express" it
would not copy these same 5 email to my Windows Mail folder.

Basically, what I am trying to say is that I have 5 years worth of emails in
files in DBX file format and I am trying to get them into my Windows Mail
folders. Any help to accomplish this will be appreciated.

Rich

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

> "RichMc461" <RichMc461 RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
> > The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
> >
> > The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or unluckily
> > I
> > had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One Care.
> > The
> > unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not compatible
> > with a
> > 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought to
> > replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load Windows
> > One
> > Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a new
> > hard
> > drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to restore
> > the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files but not
> > for the larger of the backed up email. files.
> > When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows Explorer I
> > see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders that
> > indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing. Using
> > two
> > other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these folders
> > and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I am
> > looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook Express.
> > The
> > later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on the
> > trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy the
> > files
> > as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the trial
> > of
> > 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it would
> > not
> > so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
> > emails.
> > When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see the
> > files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read only
> > property of these file folders.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Your message is very hard to understand. What is Outlook Explorer. You
> can't have Outlook Express and Windows Mail on the same machine.
> See http://www'oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>

R. C. White, MVP · External Since: Sep 26, 2006 Posts: 202

Hi, Rich.

That site that Frank gave you (http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm -
correcting the slight typo) is the best source of information about Windows
Mail and Outlook Express.

The quickie version of how to get your files into WM is to copy all those
..dbx files, including the very important Folders.dbx, into a folder that you
can access from Vista. Then start WM and Import the messages from that
folder. You will, of course, need permission to access that folder;
otherwise, WM will tell you that there are no files there.

The Import may take a long time. If OE stored a thousand emails in a single
large .dbx file, WM will store them in a thousand separate small .eml files.
It takes a lot longer to process a thousand small files and one big one.
The benefit is that loss or corruption in a single message won't make you
lose the other 999 messages, like you might in OE.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc RemoveThis @grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)

"RichMc461" <RichMc461 RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7508CB28-6C8F-400B-AAE5-B3C9B2BBBBE0@microsoft.com...
> Frank,
>
> Thanks for answering. When I said Outlook Explorer I had intended to say
> Outlook Express.
>
> Let me see if I can make this clearer. I have two computers. One runs
> Windows Vista the other Windows XP. The 5 years worth of emails I want to
> restore to my Windows Vista machine I could not restore to either the
> machine
> wth Windows Vista on it or Windows XP. Yet, using Windows Explorer I cans
> see
> the DBX files of approximately the right size and when I used two 3rd
> party
> programs in an attempt to retrieve these emails I was not able to do so
> satisfactorily. I was able to copy 5 emails from one folder in the DBX
> file
> format to another folder and in the process convert those 5 emails to the
> eml
> format. But when I used this program, "Mail Recovery for Outlook Express"
> it
> would not copy these same 5 email to my Windows Mail folder.
>
> Basically, what I am trying to say is that I have 5 years worth of emails
> in
> files in DBX file format and I am trying to get them into my Windows Mail
> folders. Any help to accomplish this will be appreciated.
>
> Rich
>
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
>
>> "RichMc461" <RichMc461 RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
>> > The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
>> >
>> > The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or
>> > unluckily
>> > I
>> > had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One
>> > Care.
>> > The
>> > unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not compatible
>> > with a
>> > 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought to
>> > replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load Windows
>> > One
>> > Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a new
>> > hard
>> > drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to
>> > restore
>> > the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files but
>> > not
>> > for the larger of the backed up email. files.
>> > When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows Explorer
>> > I
>> > see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders that
>> > indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing. Using
>> > two
>> > other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these
>> > folders
>> > and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I am
>> > looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook
>> > Express.
>> > The
>> > later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on
>> > the
>> > trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy the
>> > files
>> > as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the
>> > trial
>> > of
>> > 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it
>> > would
>> > not
>> > so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
>> > emails.
>> > When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see
>> > the
>> > files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read
>> > only
>> > property of these file folders.
>> >
>> > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>> Your message is very hard to understand. What is Outlook Explorer. You
>> can't have Outlook Express and Windows Mail on the same machine.
>> See http://www'oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM

RichMc461 · External Since: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 7

Thanks RC,

http://tarbaby.blogdrive.com/archive/150.html

I am providing a link that shows to JPG files from screen captures of my
computer. The first shows most of the files in a folder I called "Outlook."
These are the DBX files in their various folders. Note there is a folder
there called "Folders" as well as a "Folders(1)." The second image is a
screen capture of my Windows Mail main screen after I tried to import the DBX
files in the Outlook folder above. Note the Imported Folder and Imported(1)
folder. These are the results of the two attempts I made to import the DBX
files. In the Imported Folder(1) was one message and that was the standard
canned message one typically receives, "Welcome to Outlook Express 6." No
other emails were imported.

Hope this helps to further explain the problem. I'll go to the reference you
provided to see if I can gather some more clues.

Thanks for your help.

Rich

"R. C. White, MVP" wrote:

> Hi, Rich.
>
> That site that Frank gave you (http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm -
> correcting the slight typo) is the best source of information about Windows
> Mail and Outlook Express.
>
> The quickie version of how to get your files into WM is to copy all those
> .dbx files, including the very important Folders.dbx, into a folder that you
> can access from Vista. Then start WM and Import the messages from that
> folder. You will, of course, need permission to access that folder;
> otherwise, WM will tell you that there are no files there.
>
> The Import may take a long time. If OE stored a thousand emails in a single
> large .dbx file, WM will store them in a thousand separate small .eml files.
> It takes a lot longer to process a thousand small files and one big one.
> The benefit is that loss or corruption in a single message won't make you
> lose the other 999 messages, like you might in OE.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc.TakeThisOut@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)
>
> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7508CB28-6C8F-400B-AAE5-B3C9B2BBBBE0@microsoft.com...
> > Frank,
> >
> > Thanks for answering. When I said Outlook Explorer I had intended to say
> > Outlook Express.
> >
> > Let me see if I can make this clearer. I have two computers. One runs
> > Windows Vista the other Windows XP. The 5 years worth of emails I want to
> > restore to my Windows Vista machine I could not restore to either the
> > machine
> > wth Windows Vista on it or Windows XP. Yet, using Windows Explorer I cans
> > see
> > the DBX files of approximately the right size and when I used two 3rd
> > party
> > programs in an attempt to retrieve these emails I was not able to do so
> > satisfactorily. I was able to copy 5 emails from one folder in the DBX
> > file
> > format to another folder and in the process convert those 5 emails to the
> > eml
> > format. But when I used this program, "Mail Recovery for Outlook Express"
> > it
> > would not copy these same 5 email to my Windows Mail folder.
> >
> > Basically, what I am trying to say is that I have 5 years worth of emails
> > in
> > files in DBX file format and I am trying to get them into my Windows Mail
> > folders. Any help to accomplish this will be appreciated.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
> >
> >> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
> >> > The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
> >> >
> >> > The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or
> >> > unluckily
> >> > I
> >> > had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One
> >> > Care.
> >> > The
> >> > unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not compatible
> >> > with a
> >> > 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought to
> >> > replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load Windows
> >> > One
> >> > Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a new
> >> > hard
> >> > drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to
> >> > restore
> >> > the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files but
> >> > not
> >> > for the larger of the backed up email. files.
> >> > When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows Explorer
> >> > I
> >> > see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders that
> >> > indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing. Using
> >> > two
> >> > other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these
> >> > folders
> >> > and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I am
> >> > looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook
> >> > Express.
> >> > The
> >> > later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on
> >> > the
> >> > trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy the
> >> > files
> >> > as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the
> >> > trial
> >> > of
> >> > 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it
> >> > would
> >> > not
> >> > so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
> >> > emails.
> >> > When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see
> >> > the
> >> > files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read
> >> > only
> >> > property of these file folders.
> >> >
> >> > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Your message is very hard to understand. What is Outlook Explorer. You
> >> can't have Outlook Express and Windows Mail on the same machine.
> >> See http://www'oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm
> >>
> >> --
> >> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE · External Since: Jul 06, 2006 Posts: 1980

"RichMc461" <RichMc461.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C17A7A36-3008-4652-9434-AC030C9DA76F@microsoft.com...
> Thanks RC,
>
> http://tarbaby.blogdrive.com/archive/150.html
>
> I am providing a link that shows to JPG files from screen captures of my
> computer. The first shows most of the files in a folder I called
> "Outlook."
> These are the DBX files in their various folders. Note there is a folder
> there called "Folders" as well as a "Folders(1)." The second image is a
> screen capture of my Windows Mail main screen after I tried to import the
> DBX
> files in the Outlook folder above. Note the Imported Folder and
> Imported(1)
> folder. These are the results of the two attempts I made to import the
> DBX
> files. In the Imported Folder(1) was one message and that was the standard
> canned message one typically receives, "Welcome to Outlook Express 6." No
> other emails were imported.
>
> Hope this helps to further explain the problem. I'll go to the reference
> you
> provided to see if I can gather some more clues.

Looks like Folders(1).dbx is corrupt while Folders.dbx is incomplete.

I would use DBXtract or DBXpress (www.oehelp.com) to extract the message to
an empty Windows folder (one Windows folder for each DBX file) and then
drag the messages from the Windows folder into a folder in an open instance
of WinMail.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com

Steve Cochran · External Since: Feb 22, 2006 Posts: 3053

Try opening one of the files with Notepad (in XP) and see if there is
anything in it that looks like a message piece. Those "recovered" files may
actually be full of zeroes and no messages may be in them, which is why the
recovery programs don't find anything.

Its possible DBXpress could extract the messages from the files, but not if
they are full of zeroes. If you could access the old hard drive (even if
reformatted) you'd have a better shot.

steve

"RichMc461" <RichMc461.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C17A7A36-3008-4652-9434-AC030C9DA76F@microsoft.com...
> Thanks RC,
>
> http://tarbaby.blogdrive.com/archive/150.html
>
> I am providing a link that shows to JPG files from screen captures of my
> computer. The first shows most of the files in a folder I called
> "Outlook."
> These are the DBX files in their various folders. Note there is a folder
> there called "Folders" as well as a "Folders(1)." The second image is a
> screen capture of my Windows Mail main screen after I tried to import the
> DBX
> files in the Outlook folder above. Note the Imported Folder and
> Imported(1)
> folder. These are the results of the two attempts I made to import the
> DBX
> files. In the Imported Folder(1) was one message and that was the standard
> canned message one typically receives, "Welcome to Outlook Express 6." No
> other emails were imported.
>
> Hope this helps to further explain the problem. I'll go to the reference
> you
> provided to see if I can gather some more clues.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Rich
>
> "R. C. White, MVP" wrote:
>
>> Hi, Rich.
>>
>> That site that Frank gave you (http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm -
>> correcting the slight typo) is the best source of information about
>> Windows
>> Mail and Outlook Express.
>>
>> The quickie version of how to get your files into WM is to copy all those
>> .dbx files, including the very important Folders.dbx, into a folder that
>> you
>> can access from Vista. Then start WM and Import the messages from that
>> folder. You will, of course, need permission to access that folder;
>> otherwise, WM will tell you that there are no files there.
>>
>> The Import may take a long time. If OE stored a thousand emails in a
>> single
>> large .dbx file, WM will store them in a thousand separate small .eml
>> files.
>> It takes a lot longer to process a thousand small files and one big one.
>> The benefit is that loss or corruption in a single message won't make you
>> lose the other 999 messages, like you might in OE.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc.RemoveThis@grandecom.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> (Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)
>>
>> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7508CB28-6C8F-400B-AAE5-B3C9B2BBBBE0@microsoft.com...
>> > Frank,
>> >
>> > Thanks for answering. When I said Outlook Explorer I had intended to
>> > say
>> > Outlook Express.
>> >
>> > Let me see if I can make this clearer. I have two computers. One runs
>> > Windows Vista the other Windows XP. The 5 years worth of emails I want
>> > to
>> > restore to my Windows Vista machine I could not restore to either the
>> > machine
>> > wth Windows Vista on it or Windows XP. Yet, using Windows Explorer I
>> > cans
>> > see
>> > the DBX files of approximately the right size and when I used two 3rd
>> > party
>> > programs in an attempt to retrieve these emails I was not able to do so
>> > satisfactorily. I was able to copy 5 emails from one folder in the DBX
>> > file
>> > format to another folder and in the process convert those 5 emails to
>> > the
>> > eml
>> > format. But when I used this program, "Mail Recovery for Outlook
>> > Express"
>> > it
>> > would not copy these same 5 email to my Windows Mail folder.
>> >
>> > Basically, what I am trying to say is that I have 5 years worth of
>> > emails
>> > in
>> > files in DBX file format and I am trying to get them into my Windows
>> > Mail
>> > folders. Any help to accomplish this will be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Rich
>> >
>> > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
>> >> > The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
>> >> >
>> >> > The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or
>> >> > unluckily
>> >> > I
>> >> > had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One
>> >> > Care.
>> >> > The
>> >> > unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not
>> >> > compatible
>> >> > with a
>> >> > 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought
>> >> > to
>> >> > replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load
>> >> > Windows
>> >> > One
>> >> > Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a
>> >> > new
>> >> > hard
>> >> > drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to
>> >> > restore
>> >> > the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files
>> >> > but
>> >> > not
>> >> > for the larger of the backed up email. files.
>> >> > When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows
>> >> > Explorer
>> >> > I
>> >> > see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders
>> >> > that
>> >> > indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing.
>> >> > Using
>> >> > two
>> >> > other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these
>> >> > folders
>> >> > and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I
>> >> > am
>> >> > looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook
>> >> > Express.
>> >> > The
>> >> > later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on
>> >> > the
>> >> > trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy
>> >> > the
>> >> > files
>> >> > as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the
>> >> > trial
>> >> > of
>> >> > 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it
>> >> > would
>> >> > not
>> >> > so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
>> >> > emails.
>> >> > When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see
>> >> > the
>> >> > files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read
>> >> > only
>> >> > property of these file folders.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Your message is very hard to understand. What is Outlook Explorer.
>> >> You
>> >> can't have Outlook Express and Windows Mail on the same machine.
>> >> See http://www'oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>>

DGuess · External Since: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 623

http://www.oehelp.com

"RichMc461" <RichMc461.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
> The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
>
> The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or unluckily
> I
> had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One Care.
> The
> unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not compatible
> with a
> 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought to
> replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load Windows
> One
> Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a new
> hard
> drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to restore
> the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files but not
> for the larger of the backed up email. files.
> When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows Explorer I
> see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders that
> indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing. Using
> two
> other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these folders
> and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I am
> looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook Express.
> The
> later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on the
> trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy the
> files
> as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the trial
> of
> 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it would
> not
> so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
> emails.
> When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see the
> files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read only
> property of these file folders.
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

RichMc461 · External Since: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 7

Frank,

Again thanks. I'll give that a try.

I understand about using DBXtract or DBXpress to extract the files to a
folder one for each DBX file.

Then I take it I drag the messages into a folder in an open instance of
Winmail. I do not understand what you mean about the last part, drag the
messages into an open instance of Winmail. Do you mean to litterally drag he
message to the folders on the Win Mail Program??

Rich

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C17A7A36-3008-4652-9434-AC030C9DA76F@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks RC,
> >
> > http://tarbaby.blogdrive.com/archive/150.html
> >
> > I am providing a link that shows to JPG files from screen captures of my
> > computer. The first shows most of the files in a folder I called
> > "Outlook."
> > These are the DBX files in their various folders. Note there is a folder
> > there called "Folders" as well as a "Folders(1)." The second image is a
> > screen capture of my Windows Mail main screen after I tried to import the
> > DBX
> > files in the Outlook folder above. Note the Imported Folder and
> > Imported(1)
> > folder. These are the results of the two attempts I made to import the
> > DBX
> > files. In the Imported Folder(1) was one message and that was the standard
> > canned message one typically receives, "Welcome to Outlook Express 6." No
> > other emails were imported.
> >
> > Hope this helps to further explain the problem. I'll go to the reference
> > you
> > provided to see if I can gather some more clues.
>
>
> Looks like Folders(1).dbx is corrupt while Folders.dbx is incomplete.
>
> I would use DBXtract or DBXpress (www.oehelp.com) to extract the message to
> an empty Windows folder (one Windows folder for each DBX file) and then
> drag the messages from the Windows folder into a folder in an open instance
> of WinMail.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>

RichMc461 · External Since: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 7

Steve,

Thanks for your reply. I have openned several of the emails and they do
contain actual emails and not just ones and zeros, at least none that I have
openend so far. I used a program call Mail Navigator that allowed me to see
the emails and like I said they are real emails. Granted though I did not
look at each of the more than 6000 plus emails I am attempting to recover.

I'm going to try the DBxtractor program mentioned in a reply here and see
what that does.

Thanks again for trying to help.

Rich

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Try opening one of the files with Notepad (in XP) and see if there is
> anything in it that looks like a message piece. Those "recovered" files may
> actually be full of zeroes and no messages may be in them, which is why the
> recovery programs don't find anything.
>
> Its possible DBXpress could extract the messages from the files, but not if
> they are full of zeroes. If you could access the old hard drive (even if
> reformatted) you'd have a better shot.
>
> steve
>
> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C17A7A36-3008-4652-9434-AC030C9DA76F@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks RC,
> >
> > http://tarbaby.blogdrive.com/archive/150.html
> >
> > I am providing a link that shows to JPG files from screen captures of my
> > computer. The first shows most of the files in a folder I called
> > "Outlook."
> > These are the DBX files in their various folders. Note there is a folder
> > there called "Folders" as well as a "Folders(1)." The second image is a
> > screen capture of my Windows Mail main screen after I tried to import the
> > DBX
> > files in the Outlook folder above. Note the Imported Folder and
> > Imported(1)
> > folder. These are the results of the two attempts I made to import the
> > DBX
> > files. In the Imported Folder(1) was one message and that was the standard
> > canned message one typically receives, "Welcome to Outlook Express 6." No
> > other emails were imported.
> >
> > Hope this helps to further explain the problem. I'll go to the reference
> > you
> > provided to see if I can gather some more clues.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > "R. C. White, MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, Rich.
> >>
> >> That site that Frank gave you (http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm -
> >> correcting the slight typo) is the best source of information about
> >> Windows
> >> Mail and Outlook Express.
> >>
> >> The quickie version of how to get your files into WM is to copy all those
> >> .dbx files, including the very important Folders.dbx, into a folder that
> >> you
> >> can access from Vista. Then start WM and Import the messages from that
> >> folder. You will, of course, need permission to access that folder;
> >> otherwise, WM will tell you that there are no files there.
> >>
> >> The Import may take a long time. If OE stored a thousand emails in a
> >> single
> >> large .dbx file, WM will store them in a thousand separate small .eml
> >> files.
> >> It takes a lot longer to process a thousand small files and one big one.
> >> The benefit is that loss or corruption in a single message won't make you
> >> lose the other 999 messages, like you might in OE.
> >>
> >> RC
> >> --
> >> R. C. White, CPA
> >> San Marcos, TX
> >> rc.TakeThisOut@grandecom.net
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
> >> (Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)
> >>
> >> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7508CB28-6C8F-400B-AAE5-B3C9B2BBBBE0@microsoft.com...
> >> > Frank,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for answering. When I said Outlook Explorer I had intended to
> >> > say
> >> > Outlook Express.
> >> >
> >> > Let me see if I can make this clearer. I have two computers. One runs
> >> > Windows Vista the other Windows XP. The 5 years worth of emails I want
> >> > to
> >> > restore to my Windows Vista machine I could not restore to either the
> >> > machine
> >> > wth Windows Vista on it or Windows XP. Yet, using Windows Explorer I
> >> > cans
> >> > see
> >> > the DBX files of approximately the right size and when I used two 3rd
> >> > party
> >> > programs in an attempt to retrieve these emails I was not able to do so
> >> > satisfactorily. I was able to copy 5 emails from one folder in the DBX
> >> > file
> >> > format to another folder and in the process convert those 5 emails to
> >> > the
> >> > eml
> >> > format. But when I used this program, "Mail Recovery for Outlook
> >> > Express"
> >> > it
> >> > would not copy these same 5 email to my Windows Mail folder.
> >> >
> >> > Basically, what I am trying to say is that I have 5 years worth of
> >> > emails
> >> > in
> >> > files in DBX file format and I am trying to get them into my Windows
> >> > Mail
> >> > folders. Any help to accomplish this will be appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Rich
> >> >
> >> > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or
> >> >> > unluckily
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One
> >> >> > Care.
> >> >> > The
> >> >> > unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not
> >> >> > compatible
> >> >> > with a
> >> >> > 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load
> >> >> > Windows
> >> >> > One
> >> >> > Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a
> >> >> > new
> >> >> > hard
> >> >> > drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to
> >> >> > restore
> >> >> > the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > for the larger of the backed up email. files.
> >> >> > When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows
> >> >> > Explorer
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing.
> >> >> > Using
> >> >> > two
> >> >> > other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these
> >> >> > folders
> >> >> > and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I
> >> >> > am
> >> >> > looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook
> >> >> > Express.
> >> >> > The
> >> >> > later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > files
> >> >> > as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the
> >> >> > trial
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
> >> >> > emails.
> >> >> > When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read
> >> >> > only
> >> >> > property of these file folders.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> Your message is very hard to understand. What is Outlook Explorer.
> >> >> You
> >> >> can't have Outlook Express and Windows Mail on the same machine.
> >> >> See http://www'oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> >>
>
>

RichMc461 · External Since: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 7

Thanks, DGuess. I'll use one of those programs and hope it solves my
problem.

Rich

"DGuess" wrote:

> http://www.oehelp.com
>
> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
> > The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
> >
> > The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or unluckily
> > I
> > had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One Care.
> > The
> > unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not compatible
> > with a
> > 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought to
> > replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load Windows
> > One
> > Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a new
> > hard
> > drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to restore
> > the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files but not
> > for the larger of the backed up email. files.
> > When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows Explorer I
> > see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders that
> > indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing. Using
> > two
> > other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these folders
> > and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I am
> > looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook Express.
> > The
> > later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on the
> > trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy the
> > files
> > as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the trial
> > of
> > 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it would
> > not
> > so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
> > emails.
> > When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see the
> > files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read only
> > property of these file folders.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
>

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE · External Since: Jul 06, 2006 Posts: 1980

"RichMc461" <RichMc461.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:459C1FE5-106A-4FDB-A344-8B8447510435@microsoft.com...
> Frank,
>
> Again thanks. I'll give that a try.
>
> I understand about using DBXtract or DBXpress to extract the files to a
> folder one for each DBX file.
>
> Then I take it I drag the messages into a folder in an open instance of
> Winmail.

Yes.

> I do not understand what you mean about the last part, drag the
> messages into an open instance of Winmail. Do you mean to litterally drag
> he
> message to the folders on the Win Mail Program??

I mean with WinMail and Windows Explorer both opem, drag them from Windows
Explorer to a folder in the open WinMail.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

Steve Cochran · External Since: Feb 22, 2006 Posts: 3053

DBXpress is better. <G>

steve

"RichMc461" <RichMc461 DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A51494D-3B86-47DF-9950-9983360A9546@microsoft.com...
> Steve,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I have openned several of the emails and they do
> contain actual emails and not just ones and zeros, at least none that I
> have
> openend so far. I used a program call Mail Navigator that allowed me to
> see
> the emails and like I said they are real emails. Granted though I did not
> look at each of the more than 6000 plus emails I am attempting to recover.
>
> I'm going to try the DBxtractor program mentioned in a reply here and see
> what that does.
>
> Thanks again for trying to help.
>
> Rich
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> Try opening one of the files with Notepad (in XP) and see if there is
>> anything in it that looks like a message piece. Those "recovered" files
>> may
>> actually be full of zeroes and no messages may be in them, which is why
>> the
>> recovery programs don't find anything.
>>
>> Its possible DBXpress could extract the messages from the files, but not
>> if
>> they are full of zeroes. If you could access the old hard drive (even if
>> reformatted) you'd have a better shot.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "RichMc461" <RichMc461 DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C17A7A36-3008-4652-9434-AC030C9DA76F@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks RC,
>> >
>> > http://tarbaby.blogdrive.com/archive/150.html
>> >
>> > I am providing a link that shows to JPG files from screen captures of
>> > my
>> > computer. The first shows most of the files in a folder I called
>> > "Outlook."
>> > These are the DBX files in their various folders. Note there is a
>> > folder
>> > there called "Folders" as well as a "Folders(1)." The second image is
>> > a
>> > screen capture of my Windows Mail main screen after I tried to import
>> > the
>> > DBX
>> > files in the Outlook folder above. Note the Imported Folder and
>> > Imported(1)
>> > folder. These are the results of the two attempts I made to import the
>> > DBX
>> > files. In the Imported Folder(1) was one message and that was the
>> > standard
>> > canned message one typically receives, "Welcome to Outlook Express 6."
>> > No
>> > other emails were imported.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps to further explain the problem. I'll go to the
>> > reference
>> > you
>> > provided to see if I can gather some more clues.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > Rich
>> >
>> > "R. C. White, MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, Rich.
>> >>
>> >> That site that Frank gave you
>> >> (http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm -
>> >> correcting the slight typo) is the best source of information about
>> >> Windows
>> >> Mail and Outlook Express.
>> >>
>> >> The quickie version of how to get your files into WM is to copy all
>> >> those
>> >> .dbx files, including the very important Folders.dbx, into a folder
>> >> that
>> >> you
>> >> can access from Vista. Then start WM and Import the messages from
>> >> that
>> >> folder. You will, of course, need permission to access that folder;
>> >> otherwise, WM will tell you that there are no files there.
>> >>
>> >> The Import may take a long time. If OE stored a thousand emails in a
>> >> single
>> >> large .dbx file, WM will store them in a thousand separate small .eml
>> >> files.
>> >> It takes a lot longer to process a thousand small files and one big
>> >> one.
>> >> The benefit is that loss or corruption in a single message won't make
>> >> you
>> >> lose the other 999 messages, like you might in OE.
>> >>
>> >> RC
>> >> --
>> >> R. C. White, CPA
>> >> San Marcos, TX
>> >> rc DeleteThis @grandecom.net
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> >> (Running Windows Mail in Vista Ultimate x64)
>> >>
>> >> "RichMc461" <RichMc461 DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:7508CB28-6C8F-400B-AAE5-B3C9B2BBBBE0@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Frank,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for answering. When I said Outlook Explorer I had intended
>> >> > to
>> >> > say
>> >> > Outlook Express.
>> >> >
>> >> > Let me see if I can make this clearer. I have two computers. One
>> >> > runs
>> >> > Windows Vista the other Windows XP. The 5 years worth of emails I
>> >> > want
>> >> > to
>> >> > restore to my Windows Vista machine I could not restore to either
>> >> > the
>> >> > machine
>> >> > wth Windows Vista on it or Windows XP. Yet, using Windows Explorer I
>> >> > cans
>> >> > see
>> >> > the DBX files of approximately the right size and when I used two
>> >> > 3rd
>> >> > party
>> >> > programs in an attempt to retrieve these emails I was not able to do
>> >> > so
>> >> > satisfactorily. I was able to copy 5 emails from one folder in the
>> >> > DBX
>> >> > file
>> >> > format to another folder and in the process convert those 5 emails
>> >> > to
>> >> > the
>> >> > eml
>> >> > format. But when I used this program, "Mail Recovery for Outlook
>> >> > Express"
>> >> > it
>> >> > would not copy these same 5 email to my Windows Mail folder.
>> >> >
>> >> > Basically, what I am trying to say is that I have 5 years worth of
>> >> > emails
>> >> > in
>> >> > files in DBX file format and I am trying to get them into my Windows
>> >> > Mail
>> >> > folders. Any help to accomplish this will be appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rich
>> >> >
>> >> > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "RichMc461" <RichMc461 DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or
>> >> >> > unluckily
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows
>> >> >> > One
>> >> >> > Care.
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not
>> >> >> > compatible
>> >> >> > with a
>> >> >> > 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I
>> >> >> > bought
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load
>> >> >> > Windows
>> >> >> > One
>> >> >> > Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > new
>> >> >> > hard
>> >> >> > drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > restore
>> >> >> > the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some
>> >> >> > files
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > for the larger of the backed up email. files.
>> >> >> > When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows
>> >> >> > Explorer
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing.
>> >> >> > Using
>> >> >> > two
>> >> >> > other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in
>> >> >> > these
>> >> >> > folders
>> >> >> > and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the
>> >> >> > emails I
>> >> >> > am
>> >> >> > looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook
>> >> >> > Express.
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > files
>> >> >> > as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > trial
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > would
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > emails.
>> >> >> > When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to
>> >> >> > see
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the
>> >> >> > read
>> >> >> > only
>> >> >> > property of these file folders.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your message is very hard to understand. What is Outlook Explorer.
>> >> >> You
>> >> >> can't have Outlook Express and Windows Mail on the same machine.
>> >> >> See http://www'oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>> >>
>>
>>

RichMc461 · External Since: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 7

Ok I'll give that a try.

Thanks. I'll let you know how I made out.

Rich

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

> "RichMc461" <RichMc461 RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:459C1FE5-106A-4FDB-A344-8B8447510435@microsoft.com...
> > Frank,
> >
> > Again thanks. I'll give that a try.
> >
> > I understand about using DBXtract or DBXpress to extract the files to a
> > folder one for each DBX file.
> >
> > Then I take it I drag the messages into a folder in an open instance of
> > Winmail.
>
> Yes.
>
> > I do not understand what you mean about the last part, drag the
> > messages into an open instance of Winmail. Do you mean to litterally drag
> > he
> > message to the folders on the Win Mail Program??
>
> I mean with WinMail and Windows Explorer both opem, drag them from Windows
> Explorer to a folder in the open WinMail.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> Do not send mail.
>

Ragsy · External Since: Oct 29, 2009 Posts: 1

--
ragsy

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

> "RichMc461" <RichMc461.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:863B51A7-D4F9-4AD5-BD20-ED98A69AD655@microsoft.com...
> > The end goal is to recover about 5 years worth of emails.
> >
> > The story: My hard drive crashed on my old computer. Luckily or unluckily
> > I
> > had the files backed up on an external hard drive using Windows One Care.
> > The
> > unfortunate part about this is that Windows One Care is not compatible
> > with a
> > 64 bit operating system like the one I have on the computer I bought to
> > replace the one with the failed hard drive. So I could not load Windows
> > One
> > Care on the new computer and restore the files there. So I bought a new
> > hard
> > drive for the old computer and restored the files. I then tried to restore
> > the emails I had to Outlook Explorer. I had success for some files but not
> > for the larger of the backed up email. files.
> > When I look at the files in the .dbx file format using Windows Explorer I
> > see all the folders I had lost and files sizes for those folders that
> > indicate they shold be large enough to contain what I am missing. Using
> > two
> > other email programs I was able to see some of the emails in these folders
> > and was able to determine the folders do indeed contain the emails I am
> > looking for. I used MailNavigator and Mail Recovery for Outlook Express.
> > The
> > later would convert the emails in the DBX files (five email limit on the
> > trial version) to a new folder as an .EML file but would not copy the
> > files
> > as an email to a Windows mail folder. Had the program worked for the trial
> > of
> > 5 emails I would have bought it to recover all of my emails. But it would
> > not
> > so I am still looking for someway to recover about 5 years worth of
> > emails.
> > When I try to use the Import utility on Windows mail if fails to see the
> > files I can see with Windows Explorer even when I deselect the read only
> > property of these file folders.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Your message is very hard to understand. What is Outlook Explorer. You
> can't have Outlook Express and Windows Mail on the same machine.
> See http://www'oehelp.com/backup.aspx#oe2wm
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>
frank!

wow! and I thought i had trouble! you seem to have generally the same
problem i do except you have more experience that i have at the moment. with
you getting totally immersed in the flow of the software running
operationally to your liking and comming out ok, i am being overwhelmed by
the new wave of pc for application languages that are being applied today.
and the methodology that is applied behind these common day to day
operations. i am not thowing BS here. just give a little moore of what you
aare up against and maybe it will help me along the way?