Mac Address

DCR · External Since: Oct 10, 2006 Posts: 355

OK
Works as you describe in XP

"Cris" <Cris RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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|> As mentioned, the MAC adress is burned into the network card at
| > manufacturer, and has never been configurable. IP Address on the other
| > hand is one of the most changed network settings...
|
|
| I know that, but it was possible to change it, using proper drivers or 3th
| party
| software. Like i sad, im changing MACs like forever, in RC1 changeg MAC
| worked perfectly in RC2 it doesnt work.
|
| If any one of u have XP/2000/2003 or Vista RC1, check Network Driver
| Settings - Advanced Settings - Network
| Address and change it to anyting u want (000102030405) and then using
| ipconfig /all u can check
| that mac address was sucsefull changed......
|
|
| C.
|

Cris · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 12

"Dave B." <mail RemoveThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Look at the solution Alex provided

i tried smac already. Dosent work Smile

C.

Cris · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 12

"DCR" <dcr.TakeThisOut@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Network Settings Tab of what?
> Where do you find this Tab?

Your Network Card Properties (in my case Broadcom Properties) - Configure -
Advance - Network Address
check box near Value and type new Mac address (it must be supported by
driver - rtl8029 dosent support this for instance) .

C.

Cris · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 12

"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote in message
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> Some ... let me say it again, SOME ... network card manufacturers allowed
> you to change the MAC address in the Windows drivers they provided. Not
> all did. If the network card you have now used to but doesn't let you,
> then you need to contact the NETWORK CARD MANUFACTURER for assistance.
> Windows never did this, and never will.

I think u not reading my posts with attention.
Like i sad, drivers (btw. provided by MS) for this card in all Windows
familly I N C L U D I N G - attention this
is important - Windows Vista RC1 where giving me possibility to change MAC
adress and worked perfectly.
As i mentioned abow - again important - in RC1 it was working fine and it
was exactly this same driver as in RC2 !!

C.

Dika · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 5

Chris,
What version of Vista RC2 are you using?

Have you find out if the NIC is a VISTA certified card, or latest driver?

In order to be Microsoft certified NIC (with the "Designed for Microsoft xxx
logo"), the NIC must support MAC Address changing via registry.

I am curious if the latest driver for VISTA will include the support to keep
themselves in compliance with MS?

/

"Cris" wrote:

>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message
> news:Ox$4tHQCHHA.3924@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Some ... let me say it again, SOME ... network card manufacturers allowed
> > you to change the MAC address in the Windows drivers they provided. Not
> > all did. If the network card you have now used to but doesn't let you,
> > then you need to contact the NETWORK CARD MANUFACTURER for assistance.
> > Windows never did this, and never will.
>
>
> I think u not reading my posts with attention.
> Like i sad, drivers (btw. provided by MS) for this card in all Windows
> familly I N C L U D I N G - attention this
> is important - Windows Vista RC1 where giving me possibility to change MAC
> adress and worked perfectly.
> As i mentioned abow - again important - in RC1 it was working fine and it
> was exactly this same driver as in RC2 !!
>
>
> C.
>
>

Alexander Suhovey · External Since: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 463

"Dave B." <mail.RemoveThis@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Has nothing to do with Linux, XP, 2003 or anything, it has ALWAYS been
> hard coded, you couldn't change it in ANY Operating System.

Dave, you should look at SMAC.
http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/

--
Alexander Suhovey

Dave B. · External Since: Jun 16, 2006 Posts: 90

I am aware of 3rd party apps such as that one, I was trying to make the
point that no Windows OS has the ability to do it as the poster claimed that
previous versions of Windows had this ability.

"Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave B." <mail RemoveThis @nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:uUZAiJPCHHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Has nothing to do with Linux, XP, 2003 or anything, it has ALWAYS been
>> hard coded, you couldn't change it in ANY Operating System.
>
> Dave, you should look at SMAC.
> http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/
>
> --
> Alexander Suhovey

Richard G. Harper · External Since: Sep 09, 2006 Posts: 1406

I think I read your posts just fine, thanks.

MICROSOFT does not write drivers for hardware, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER
does. If the manufacturer submits the drivers to Microsoft, allows them to
be signed and put onto the Windows build, that's where you'll find them.
But they still weren't written by Microsoft, they were written by the
hardware vendor.

If something changed, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER changed it - not Vista.

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"Cris" <Cris RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper RemoveThis @email.com> wrote in message
> news:Ox$4tHQCHHA.3924@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Some ... let me say it again, SOME ... network card manufacturers allowed
>> you to change the MAC address in the Windows drivers they provided. Not
>> all did. If the network card you have now used to but doesn't let you,
>> then you need to contact the NETWORK CARD MANUFACTURER for assistance.
>> Windows never did this, and never will.
>
>
> I think u not reading my posts with attention.
> Like i sad, drivers (btw. provided by MS) for this card in all Windows
> familly I N C L U D I N G - attention this
> is important - Windows Vista RC1 where giving me possibility to change MAC
> adress and worked perfectly.
> As i mentioned abow - again important - in RC1 it was working fine and it
> was exactly this same driver as in RC2 !!
>
>
> C.
>

Cris · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 12

Hi

> Chris,
> What version of Vista RC2 are you using?

Build 5744

> Have you find out if the NIC is a VISTA certified card, or latest driver?

Yes it is, Vista recognize this card perfectly during install and used MS
drivers, info from
Driver tab:

Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Date: 2006-08-01
Driver Version: 9.20.0.3
Digital Signer: microsoft windows

> In order to be Microsoft certified NIC (with the "Designed for Microsoft
> xxx
> logo"), the NIC must support MAC Address changing via registry.

And that is strange thing cuz when im changing MAC via Advanced Driver
settings
and then going to check in registry everything seems to be working fine.
Registry value - network address is proper. But when im typing ipconfig /all
mac is unchanged and i cant plug into my isp...........
Funny thing is that in Vista RC1 it was working fine and it was excaly this
same driver !!!!!

C.

Cris · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 12

"Pavel A." <pavel_a.TakeThisOut@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message
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> Use "*NetworkAddress" instead of "NetworkAddress"
> (note the star ) - will it help?

Star noted but I dont know what u have in mind Smile

I dont have *NetworkAddress setting with *.
You mean to change it like this in registry ?

C.

Cris · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 12

Hi,

Finally problem solved.
I tried bunch of software and only one worked for me:
http://www.gorlani.com/publicprj/macmakeup/macmakeup.asp

So if u experience problems with mac changing in Vist RC2 Build 5744
use software above Smile

Cheers
Cris

Dika · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 5

Hi Chris,

SMAC worked OK too for me because it spoofed the same way as MacMakeup. If
you spoof with SMAC (www.klcconsulting.net/smac) then reboot, does that work?
Just curious, because MacMakeup spoof MAC Address by changing the MAC
Address as well...

"Cris" wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Finally problem solved.
> I tried bunch of software and only one worked for me:
> http://www.gorlani.com/publicprj/macmakeup/macmakeup.asp
>
>
> So if u experience problems with mac changing in Vist RC2 Build 5744
> use software above Smile

>
>
> Cheers
> Cris

Dika · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 5

Hi Chris,

SMAC worked OK too for me because it spoofed the same way as MacMakeup. If
you spoof with SMAC (www.klcconsulting.net/smac) then reboot, does that work?
Just curious, because MacMakeup spoof MAC Address by changing the MAC
Address as well...

"Cris" wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Finally problem solved.
> I tried bunch of software and only one worked for me:
> http://www.gorlani.com/publicprj/macmakeup/macmakeup.asp
>
>
> So if u experience problems with mac changing in Vist RC2 Build 5744
> use software above Smile

>
>
> Cheers
> Cris

Cris · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 12

>I think I read your posts just fine, thanks.

sure? Smile

))

> MICROSOFT does not write drivers for hardware, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER
> does. If the manufacturer submits the drivers to Microsoft, allows them
> to be signed and put onto the Windows build, that's where you'll find
> them. But they still weren't written by Microsoft, they were written by
> the hardware vendor.
>
> If something changed, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER changed it - not Vista.

so why in driver tab Driver Provider is an Microsoft not an Broadcom.
In my graphics driver tab Driver Provider is an ATI, so what is the point
of Driver Provider information if Microsoft means not Microsoft??? :F

Anyway i think u missed the point.
Issue is not to blame a MS or smth else of bad drivers (another thing is
why they sing them although they are not working propertly??? Smile

)))
but why those same drivers where working fine in RC1 and in RC2 they dont.
And most important HOW TO CHANGE this freaking MAC.
Im not interested in who wrote those drivers Microsoft, Broadcom or Santa
Claus
i just want to change mac. Fortunately i found 3th party software and this
discousion
is pointless.

C.

Dika · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 5

Hey Chris,

Why don't you try:

1. confirm with the manufacturer and see if they are Certified by Vista.
Recognized by Vista doesn't mean they are certified by Microsoft.

2. Try another NIC that is certified by VISTA, and see if you have the same
problem. Most likely the driver from your existing card is not
supporting/recognizing the change of MAC in registry.

/

"Cris" wrote:

> >I think I read your posts just fine, thanks.
>
> sure? Smile

))
>
>
> > MICROSOFT does not write drivers for hardware, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER
> > does. If the manufacturer submits the drivers to Microsoft, allows them
> > to be signed and put onto the Windows build, that's where you'll find
> > them. But they still weren't written by Microsoft, they were written by
> > the hardware vendor.
> >
> > If something changed, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER changed it - not Vista.
>
>
> so why in driver tab Driver Provider is an Microsoft not an Broadcom.
> In my graphics driver tab Driver Provider is an ATI, so what is the point
> of Driver Provider information if Microsoft means not Microsoft??? :F
>
> Anyway i think u missed the point.
> Issue is not to blame a MS or smth else of bad drivers (another thing is
> why they sing them although they are not working propertly??? Smile

)))
> but why those same drivers where working fine in RC1 and in RC2 they dont.
> And most important HOW TO CHANGE this freaking MAC.
> Im not interested in who wrote those drivers Microsoft, Broadcom or Santa
> Claus
> i just want to change mac. Fortunately i found 3th party software and this
> discousion
> is pointless.
>
>
> C.
>
>
>
>
>

Tim Draper · External Since: Nov 13, 2006 Posts: 45

really chris.... read my other post. it is possible in windows. i've
done it. with 100% sucess. from a non-working lan, to a working lan all
through mac# change.
no 3rd party software is needed.

tim

Cris wrote:
>> I think I read your posts just fine, thanks.
>
> sure? Smile

))
>
>
>> MICROSOFT does not write drivers for hardware, the HARDWARE
>> MANUFACTURER does. If the manufacturer submits the drivers to
>> Microsoft, allows them to be signed and put onto the Windows build,
>> that's where you'll find them. But they still weren't written by
>> Microsoft, they were written by the hardware vendor.
>>
>> If something changed, the HARDWARE MANUFACTURER changed it - not Vista.
>
>
> so why in driver tab Driver Provider is an Microsoft not an Broadcom.
> In my graphics driver tab Driver Provider is an ATI, so what is the point
> of Driver Provider information if Microsoft means not Microsoft??? :F
>
> Anyway i think u missed the point.
> Issue is not to blame a MS or smth else of bad drivers (another thing is
> why they sing them although they are not working propertly??? Smile

)))
> but why those same drivers where working fine in RC1 and in RC2 they dont.
> And most important HOW TO CHANGE this freaking MAC.
> Im not interested in who wrote those drivers Microsoft, Broadcom or
> Santa Claus
> i just want to change mac. Fortunately i found 3th party software and
> this discousion
> is pointless.
>
>
> C.
>
>
>
>

Cris · External Since: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 12

guys ! guys !

check my post from 10:56 a.m. today.
i solved this already Smile

))

Cheers

C.

ahmedab83 · Joined: Jan 12, 2008 Posts: 3

HI...
I Have D-Link AirPlus XtremeG DWL-G520 rev.B Utility , on windows VISTA with it's new driver , but it seems not to change it's MAC address though I used powerful programs such as (SMAC , AMAC) and try to change it manually by advanced properities.....

PLEASE Does any body tell me how to change it on VISTA because the MAC changed under xp only.....!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH...