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cybergoobr

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:52 am
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It worked for me....thanks Rob!!!

"mlai" wrote:

> Been there. Done that. No help.
>
> "Rob Baxmann" <rbaxmann RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:21C696A8-9562-45F5-876C-CD67D8010AB1@microsoft.com...
> > Re install you hp drivers then goto computer management services. Scroll
> > down to "HP CUE DeviceDiscovery Service" and disable it.
> >
> >
> > "mlai" <mlai RemoveThis @community.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:eZiVQrVrHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi,
> >> Just wondering if anybody has seen this problem. HP claims that they
> >> have not seen this problem (despite I have reported it before...)
> >>
> >> I have a Photosmart C6180 installed on my network. Under XP, everything
> >> seems to work fine. However, on my Vista x64 machines, the printer and
> >> fax seems to disappear when there are changes in the network status (for
> >> example, resuming from suspend, and disabling and r-enabling the network
> >> interfaces, even when the interfaces being changed does not connect to
> >> the printer). I would get a Vista error saying that the HP Network
> >> Printer Services has stopped responding and then after this happens, I
> >> have a very good chance that the C6180 printer and fax will disappear
> >> from my list of printers on the machine.
> >>
> >> When this happens, the only way is to run the HP software (which I
> >> downloaded from the web for Vista x64) and add a new printer from there.
> >>
> >> Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
> >>
> >> Many thanks.
> >>
> >> PS. Called local HP and their tech support gave me the stupid response of
> >> "We don't know. Maybe don't suspend your computer?". I have a laptop
> >> running the software, idiot......
> >>
> >>
>
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Bobski

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:06 pm
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Bobski here- I am having same problem with Vista and HP all in one 3310-
loaded four times, lasts a few days and dissapears. just with vista, not XP
Pro. what to do?

"Kathi Johnston" wrote:

> Alan: thanks for responding. I know at this time the HP 7410 is not missing
> in the registry key you specified. It may go away when I lose the printer,
> but I just reinstalled the drivers for umteenth time yesterday.
>
> No I am going across the network to print. (I think that is what you mean),
> I am not printing to the HP 7410 printer located ON another computer.
>
> Not sure what you mean by inbox drivers.
>
> What happens is I go to print, the printer is gone in my list of choices to
> print to. I go through control panels to see if the printer is there. It's
> not of course. When I go to reinstall the drivers, the HP software gives me
> the option to either uninstall or add features. I have to uninstall before I
> can then RE install the drivers.
>
> I know it's not a network issue (then again I had a lot of trouble going
> through Norton Anti Virus to get my XP machines and Vista Machine to talk and
> share), because when I do reinstall the drivers the printer is immediately
> detected
>
> Thanks Alan!
> Kathi
>
>
>
>
> "Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> > Is the printer located in the registry?
> >
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Print\Printers
> >
> > Are the printers local devices targeting the network card on the printer or
> > are these connections to a machine sharing the printers.
> >
> > When you install the inbox driver for this device, does it also get removed?
> >
> > When you say HP detects that they are there, do you mean the printers? Do
> > you know what application is detecting the printers? If HP has software
> > that detects printers who knows what they might do if the printer is no
> > longer detected.
> >
> > --
> > Alan Morris
> > Windows Printing Team
> > Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> >
> > "Kathi Johnston" <KathiJohnston RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:28771DA9-70CD-4951-B5D9-9FF8EAD051E6@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > > I have an HP Officejet 7410 AIO (wireless network printer). I am having
> > > the
> > > same problem. I have 4 networked machines. 3 XPs, 1 Vista Home Premium
> > > (Dell 1705 laptop-Vista was factory installed). The Vista machine keeps
> > > losing the printer. It's no where to be found. But you can't reinstall
> > > the
> > > drivers (which I've conveniently left on my desktop as I've needed them so
> > > often), as HP detects that they are there (somewhere). You have to
> > > uninstall
> > > the drivers to get to reinstall the drivers, just to get the printer back.
> > > It's time consuming and annoying. You don't look for the drivers UNLESS
> > > you
> > > are trying to print.
> > >
> > > Any help would be great.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kathi
> >
> >
> >
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Bobski

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:14 pm
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anyone come up with a fix yet, my hp all in one 3310 has been lost three or
four times

"cybergoobr" wrote:

> It worked for me....thanks Rob!!!
>
> "mlai" wrote:
>
> > Been there. Done that. No help.
> >
> > "Rob Baxmann" <rbaxmann DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:21C696A8-9562-45F5-876C-CD67D8010AB1@microsoft.com...
> > > Re install you hp drivers then goto computer management services. Scroll
> > > down to "HP CUE DeviceDiscovery Service" and disable it.
> > >
> > >
> > > "mlai" <mlai DeleteThis @community.nospam> wrote in message
> > > news:eZiVQrVrHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >> Hi,
> > >> Just wondering if anybody has seen this problem. HP claims that they
> > >> have not seen this problem (despite I have reported it before...)
> > >>
> > >> I have a Photosmart C6180 installed on my network. Under XP, everything
> > >> seems to work fine. However, on my Vista x64 machines, the printer and
> > >> fax seems to disappear when there are changes in the network status (for
> > >> example, resuming from suspend, and disabling and r-enabling the network
> > >> interfaces, even when the interfaces being changed does not connect to
> > >> the printer). I would get a Vista error saying that the HP Network
> > >> Printer Services has stopped responding and then after this happens, I
> > >> have a very good chance that the C6180 printer and fax will disappear
> > >> from my list of printers on the machine.
> > >>
> > >> When this happens, the only way is to run the HP software (which I
> > >> downloaded from the web for Vista x64) and add a new printer from there.
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks.
> > >>
> > >> PS. Called local HP and their tech support gave me the stupid response of
> > >> "We don't know. Maybe don't suspend your computer?". I have a laptop
> > >> running the software, idiot......
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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Bobski

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:14 pm
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"cybergoobr" wrote:

> It worked for me....thanks Rob!!!
>
> "mlai" wrote:
>
> > Been there. Done that. No help.
> >
> > "Rob Baxmann" <rbaxmann DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:21C696A8-9562-45F5-876C-CD67D8010AB1@microsoft.com...
> > > Re install you hp drivers then goto computer management services. Scroll
> > > down to "HP CUE DeviceDiscovery Service" and disable it.
> > >
> > >
> > > "mlai" <mlai DeleteThis @community.nospam> wrote in message
> > > news:eZiVQrVrHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >> Hi,
> > >> Just wondering if anybody has seen this problem. HP claims that they
> > >> have not seen this problem (despite I have reported it before...)
> > >>
> > >> I have a Photosmart C6180 installed on my network. Under XP, everything
> > >> seems to work fine. However, on my Vista x64 machines, the printer and
> > >> fax seems to disappear when there are changes in the network status (for
> > >> example, resuming from suspend, and disabling and r-enabling the network
> > >> interfaces, even when the interfaces being changed does not connect to
> > >> the printer). I would get a Vista error saying that the HP Network
> > >> Printer Services has stopped responding and then after this happens, I
> > >> have a very good chance that the C6180 printer and fax will disappear
> > >> from my list of printers on the machine.
> > >>
> > >> When this happens, the only way is to run the HP software (which I
> > >> downloaded from the web for Vista x64) and add a new printer from there.
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks.
> > >>
> > >> PS. Called local HP and their tech support gave me the stupid response of
> > >> "We don't know. Maybe don't suspend your computer?". I have a laptop
> > >> running the software, idiot......
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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Greg Webb

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:28 am
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I get hte same run around fron hp, i have to re-install my printer software at least once a week. This is really getting to be a pain in the u know what. I am running Vista 32 home premium and it used to work just fine on XP. I also have 4 other pc's using vista and all machine encounter he same error with the printer. If someone has heard of a fix i sure would like to know.

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redcattoo

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:52 pm
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I just want to add that this too frustrates me ... everytime Vista seems to
perform an automatic upgrade all my network printers dissapper and I have to
reinstall, but of course I don't notice until I really want to print.

If anyone has found a solution (which I presume is currently a Vista
problem) please let me know. I am tired of my printer being gone everytime I
need it.

lhermann2.TakeThisOut@comcast.net

"Greg Webb" wrote:

> I get hte same run around fron hp, i have to re-install my printer software at least once a week. This is really getting to be a pain in the u know what. I am running Vista 32 home premium and it used to work just fine on XP. I also have 4 other pc's using vista and all machine encounter he same error with the printer. If someone has heard of a fix i sure would like to know.
>
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redcattoo

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:58 pm
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I am becoming very frustrated by what seems to be the same issue everyone is
discussing re: printers dissappearing (usually when Vista does an automatic
upgrade it seems). Of course it always occurs when I most need the printer
and therefore I have to go throught the lengthy install for my wireless HP
printer. Has anyone found a solution (to what I presume is a vista issue)?

lhermann2 RemoveThis @comcast.net

"Greg Webb" wrote:

> I get hte same run around fron hp, i have to re-install my printer software at least once a week. This is really getting to be a pain in the u know what. I am running Vista 32 home premium and it used to work just fine on XP. I also have 4 other pc's using vista and all machine encounter he same error with the printer. If someone has heard of a fix i sure would like to know.
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:14 am
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Just a suggestion/idea...how many have UAC enabled? Have you tried
turning UAC off, then reinstalling the photosmart drivers?

Good luck,
Mike


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(Msg. 29) Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:50 am
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I am only average with moving around computers (significantly better than my
parents though) ... what is UAC enabled mean? How would I know if it is UAC
enabled? How/why would turning it off eliminate the printers dissappearing
each time my system seems to upgrade itself?

"MikeWilson" wrote:

>
> Just a suggestion/idea...how many have UAC enabled? Have you tried
> turning UAC off, then reinstalling the photosmart drivers?
>
> Good luck,
> Mike
>
>
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:45 am
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Hello, some folks over at the HP ITRC forums have found the definitive
fix, setting the HP CUE DeviceDiscovery Service to disabled.

Here's the link to those articles. Check at the bottom of the thread
for the instructions, and

Good luck,
Mike

'IT Resource Center forums - HP C6180 Problems'
(http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1091899&admit=-682735245+1185538377465+28353475)


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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:36 am
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Thanks Mike ... that link appears to have some positive news ... I have
disabled the HP CUE DeviceDiscovery Service and hope this helps my HP C7180.
Its been a couple of days and my printer hasn't disappeared yet.

"MikeWilson" wrote:

>
> Hello, some folks over at the HP ITRC forums have found the definitive
> fix, setting the HP CUE DeviceDiscovery Service to disabled.
>
> Here's the link to those articles. Check at the bottom of the thread
> for the instructions, and
>
> Good luck,
> Mike
>
> 'IT Resource Center forums - HP C6180 Problems'
> (http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1091899&admit=-682735245+1185538377465+28353475)
>
>
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:10 pm
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This is a know problem. The blame is 50%. Part of it is the bugs in the new MS Vista stack. Part is on the HP service crashing when the driver fails and triggering HP CUE Device discovery to delete the printer. HP is working on a patch. If somebody volunteers a share I can send the updated DLLs.


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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:17 pm
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This is a know problem. The blame is 50% HP 50% MS. Part of it is the bugs in the new MS Vista TCP/IP stack; make sure you have the latest drivers for your network adapter. The other part is on the HP service crashing when the driver fails and triggering HP CUE Device discovery to delete the printer. HP is working on a patch. If somebody volunteers a share I can send the updated DLLs.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:17 am
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This is a know problem. The blame is 50% HP 50% MS. Part of it is the
bugs in the new MS Vista TCP/IP stack; make sure you have the latest
drivers for your network adapter. The other part is on the HP service
crashing when the driver fails and triggering HP CUE Device discovery
to delete the printer. HP is working on a patch. If somebody volunteers
a share I can send the updated DLLs.


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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:38 pm
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Hi Rob,

I'd love to try this. How do I find the computer management services? Do I
need to completely uninstall and reinstall the HP software (about an hour)?
Or is it somewhere I can access now?

Thanks!
-Lynn

"Rob Baxmann" wrote:

> Re install you hp drivers then goto computer management services. Scroll
> down to "HP CUE DeviceDiscovery Service" and disable it.
>
>
> "mlai" <mlai.RemoveThis@community.nospam> wrote in message
> news:eZiVQrVrHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> > Just wondering if anybody has seen this problem. HP claims that they
> > have not seen this problem (despite I have reported it before...)
> >
> > I have a Photosmart C6180 installed on my network. Under XP, everything
> > seems to work fine. However, on my Vista x64 machines, the printer and
> > fax seems to disappear when there are changes in the network status (for
> > example, resuming from suspend, and disabling and r-enabling the network
> > interfaces, even when the interfaces being changed does not connect to the
> > printer). I would get a Vista error saying that the HP Network Printer
> > Services has stopped responding and then after this happens, I have a very
> > good chance that the C6180 printer and fax will disappear from my list of
> > printers on the machine.
> >
> > When this happens, the only way is to run the HP software (which I
> > downloaded from the web for Vista x64) and add a new printer from there.
> >
> > Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > PS. Called local HP and their tech support gave me the stupid response of
> > "We don't know. Maybe don't suspend your computer?". I have a laptop
> > running the software, idiot......
> >
> >
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:17 am
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I did have the same annoying problems with my HP printer especially
getting the scanner function. I did receive various responses from HP
but one actually worked and although the printer/network sleeps it
always is recognized and functions. The drivers and software on the
install disks sold with these printers only function up thru XP but not
Vista. Here is the link to get Vista version download for HP.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=...47754-1

Sorry the addr is so long it wouldn't insert the full url as a link so
just copy and paste the full addr for the full function software for
Vista. Hope it resolves other's problem too.


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