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Alan Morris [MSFT]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Duplex printing bug head to toe - HP printer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The fix came from a print driver developer at HP. Support is the big
failure on this. Thanks BOB for the continuing support of the MS
communities and HP alternate support .


HP has released a buch of drivers with the duplex fix on Windows Update.
You have to search for them and make sure they are the right language and
x86 or x64 versions.

From: W Ling (Hewlett-Packard)
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:02 PM
To: Herman Forrest; Alan Morris
Cc: Subject: RE: Vista/HP printing problem



Hi Herman and all,



This is a bug in Vista inbox driver (Vista RTM - Nov 2006). We (HP) fixed it
right away but it is not reached to the MS bug fixing bar for Vista SP1 and
it had hard time to make it to work on Windows Update. Thanks to Alan for
helping/forwarding a big number of GPDs to customers to fix them.



Now this model (Photosmart 8200 series) is rechecked into Win7 inbox with
the fix.



It may still be a problem for Eric today to get it from WU due to Windows
Update issue. The fixed package is on the WU though. Eric may try to
download and install yourself from
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=HP%20Photosm...%208200



There is a long list for drivers. The highlighted one in the below snapshot
is the right fixed one for Vista inbox x86 (dated 5/1/2007). The one right
above it is the x64 driver Eric needs.


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"widgeonjim" wrote in message

> I'm not sure HP admits to being "aware of this issue." Several weeks ago,
> I
> spent 4 hours on their CHAT service with 3 different tech "support"
> people.
> None knew of the problem. None had a solution. All stepped me through a
> variety of "fixes" without any success - including uninstalling my 7310,
> installing a 6500 driver (which I don't have) and making changes to my
> registry. Some of their suggestions caused me to reboot so the CHAT
> session
> was lost. They said not to worry, the next technician would be able to
> look
> up the progress by case number. Not once could they find the case. I had
> copied all the dialog into a WORD file so just copied it back into their
> little bitty window when they asked me how they could help.
>
> Bottom line - no one at HP seems to know anything. By good fortune, I met
> Bob Hendrick on this newsgroup and he sent me the patch. It works fine
> now.
> Bob's patch was easy enough to install and directions clear enough that I
> would think even HP "support" people could do it.
>
> Thanks much to Bob and everyone else who is involved in this HP problem.
> cheers,
> jim
>
> "Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Yes HP is aware of this issue and working to get the fix on Windows
>> Update.
>>
>> Please reply with the HP MODEL of the printer if anyone else is
>> experiencing
>> this problem. The reason this issue is getting traction is this
>> community.
>> The HP driver developer here talked to me yesterday about this class of
>> driver.
>>
>> --
>> Alan Morris
>> Windows Printing Team
>> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> "Saving" wrote in message
>>
>> > Huh, not sure what you're driving at there Steve?
>> > The Windows Vista driver has a setting of "Flip Pages Up" under the
>> > Finishing section of the Printing Preferences. When this is set the
>> > duplex
>> > is
>> > supposed to be lengthwise and when it isn't it's widthwise. The problem
>> > I'm
>> > having is the printer will not print anything other than lenghtwise
>> > duplex.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Nigel
>> >
>> > "Steve Urbach" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Weird!
>> >> Both my duplex capable printers use the terms:
>> >> My HP Deskjet:
>> >> "Flip on long edge" and "Flip on short edge"
>> >> The terms do not change when I change the print processor setting for
>> >> the printer from: "Winprint" to "hpzpplhn"
>> >>
>> >> My other printer is a Brother MFC8820DN
>> >>
>> >> Both print Portrait mode Long edge flip properly.
>> >> (sometimes refereed to as Long edge Binding)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:08:08 -0800, Saving
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi,
>> >> >I have an HP Officejet 6110 which is using the Vista built in driver
>> >> >(there
>> >> >is no driver from HP). I have the duplex unit attached but Vista
>> >> >refuses
>> >> >to
>> >> >allow me to print duplex in Portrait with the pages back to back.
>> >> >Instead it
>> >> >insists on printing "Flip up pages" i.e. the pages are head to toe so
>> >> >you
>> >> >read the first page and flip it lengthwise instead of widthwise.
>> >> >There
>> >> >is a
>> >> >setting "Flip Pages Up" which is supposed to control this but it has
>> >> >no
>> >> >effect. I have seen other people with different HP printers but the
>> >> >same
>> >> >problem (google). Apparently it does work correctly in landscape but
>> >> >I
>> >> >haven't tried that.
>> >> >I do try not to print things out often but when I do I use duplex so
>> >> >this is
>> >> >painful.
>> >> >Are there any plans to fix the driver or any workarounds (no manual
>> >> >duplex
>> >> >is not a workaround by the way!)
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks in advance
>> >> >
>> >> >Saving
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Duplex printing bug head to toe - HP printer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I am joining the "Thanks Bob" group of excited Vista users. My HP
7410xi printer was printing alternate pages upside down when I used
duplex printing. I emailed Bob yesterday (Bob Headrick bobh.TakeThisOut@mvps.org)
and today I am soooooooo happy! I followed the instructions and it
worked the first time.

Thanks Bob,

Jan Wienecke


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: Duplex printing bug head to toe - HP printer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I _had_ the same issue with my HP7410 printer and Vista. Called HP
support and was told that since my printer was out of warranty, I would
have to pay to speak with them. After 3 worthless chat sessions with HP
support - uninstall/reinstall software, reset printer (requiring a
reentry of the WiFi WEP codes, etc), and installing a patch that was
intended to keep network printers visible in the printer selection on
Vista - none of these "solutions" did anything except waste my time.

I searched for this issue online and located this forum. I found a
link to 'Bob' who had a patch for this issue. I contacted Bob (see info
below) and he promptly sent me an e-mail with the patch and detailed
instructions to install it.

Voila!!! In less than 5 minutes I am now able to print in duplex with
the 2nd page oriented correctly!!!!

Contact Bob Headrick (see post dated 17-07-2008 10:46 AM in this forum)
at bobh DeleteThis @proaxis.com and put Vista Duplex and the printer model in the
subject line. Within a few hours, you will receive the patch and in a
few minutes you will be printing again!

Thanks Bob! Really appreciate the help.

-Herschel


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: Duplex printing bug head to toe - HP printer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I would like to happily report that Bob's patch works for the 5600 Series
printer driving an deskjet 5850. THANKS, Bob!!!

"Bob Headrick" wrote:

> "TheSkeptic" wrote in message
>
>
> [snip]
> > I've been dealing with HP since Mar 07 re VISTA and Duplex printing on
> > my Officejet 7310. January 30 I was told that the VISTA Service Pack 1
> > "might fix the problem". I installed it last week and it didn't fix the
> > problem. The 7310 still prints duplex in "FLIP MODE ONLY".
> [snip]
>
> I have a fix for the duplex issue, send a private email to bobh DeleteThis @mvps.org and
> I will send the patch and instructions. Please put "Vista Duplex" in the
> subject so I can more easily find it among the spam I get.
>
> For others with the same issue, I have the patch for a number of other HP
> inkjet printers as well. Please indicate which printer model you have in
> your email.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>
>
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Duplex printing bug head to toe - HP printer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Bob,
I have HP 6110 with same issue. Vista Home Premium 32. Head to Toe
Portrait duplex only even though Head to Toe requested in software. Can
you send me the patch?
Thanks you.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Duplex printing bug head to toe - HP printer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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One more note to extend a BIG thanks to Bob for his patch. I have an
OfficeJet 7410 that had the same problem. When it was hooked up to my
new Vista laptop, the duplex printing stopped working. I found
instructions for switching two sided printing capability from
"uninstalled" to "installed." Two sided printing started working, but
the second page was flipped upside down.

Bob's patch was easy to install and has completely fixed my problem. I
do want to share that when I first implemented Bob's fix, two sided
printing worked immediately, but printing to the OfficeJet became
extremely sluggish (five minutes plus just to select that printer and
select two sided printing). Rebooting didn't help. Finally, I
uninstalled the printer and re-installed the driver thinking that I
would have to repeat Bob's patch. To my pleasant surprise, the re-load
fixed everything and there was no need to re-do Bob's patch. Printer
has worked great now for over two weeks.

THANK YOU BOB!!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: Duplex printing bug head to toe - HP printer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I am also experiencing problems with the hp m2727 single sided printing
only. I am running both Vista and XP. It was working fine and then it
suddenly refused to duplex anymore.


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