Can't Access Printer- Access Denied.

"Jordan H." <JordanH.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Gang,
>
> Here's the scoop, I'm trying to access a Lexmark X1185 from a Vista RC1
> box
> running 32bit OS. The Printer is attached to a machine running XP Home
> SP2.
> File & Printer Sharing is enabled on both machines and I can access the
> shared folder on the XP machine from the Vista box. However when
> attempting
> to add the shared printer on Vista, it keeps popping up with an Äccess
> Denied" Error. I Should the I'm Dual Booting Vista and XP MCE2005 and on
> MCE
> the printer shows up just fine. Also when attempt this from the 64bit
> version of Vista the printer is able to be seen but I can't install the
> driver as it's only 32bit. Both Machines are part of the same workgroup
> (MSHOME) and I've checked all the settings on both. This shouldn't be a
> problem but Vista just won't let me at that printer. HELP!!!
>
> Jordan

This won't make you feel better but you are not alone. This is a problem
for me and many others and there is NO solution. I challenge anyone here to
find a solution. I know you cannot because there is NONE! If I'm wrong,
then prove me wrong PLEASE!

"Kerry Brown" <kerry.DeleteThis@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:OWLg7qi5GHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I'm guessing because I don't have an XP Home box but here goes. XP Home
> uses the guest account for sharing. In Vista the guest account is
> disabled. Try creating an administrator account on the XP Home computer
> with the same user name and password as you use on the Vista computer.
> Boot the XP Home computer into safe mode and logon as administrator. In
> the security tab of the printer properties make sure the user you just
> added has appropriate permissions.

In my Home box there is no security tab in the Printer dialogue box.

This is a common problem that I hope MS will fix in the final build. One
should not have to do the above to make it work.


>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> Jordan H. wrote:
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> Here's the scoop, I'm trying to access a Lexmark X1185 from a Vista
>> RC1 box running 32bit OS. The Printer is attached to a machine
>> running XP Home SP2. File & Printer Sharing is enabled on both
>> machines and I can access the shared folder on the XP machine from
>> the Vista box. However when attempting to add the shared printer on
>> Vista, it keeps popping up with an Äccess Denied" Error. I Should
>> the I'm Dual Booting Vista and XP MCE2005 and on MCE the printer
>> shows up just fine. Also when attempt this from the 64bit version of
>> Vista the printer is able to be seen but I can't install the driver
>> as it's only 32bit. Both Machines are part of the same workgroup
>> (MSHOME) and I've checked all the settings on both. This shouldn't
>> be a problem but Vista just won't let me at that printer. HELP!!!
>>
>> Jordan
>
>

BigK wrote:
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry.RemoveThis@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:OWLg7qi5GHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I'm guessing because I don't have an XP Home box but here goes. XP
>> Home uses the guest account for sharing. In Vista the guest account
>> is disabled. Try creating an administrator account on the XP Home
>> computer with the same user name and password as you use on the
>> Vista computer. Boot the XP Home computer into safe mode and logon
>> as administrator. In the security tab of the printer properties make
>> sure the user you just added has appropriate permissions.
>
> In my Home box there is no security tab in the Printer dialogue box.
>
> This is a common problem that I hope MS will fix in the final build. One
> should not have to do the above to make it work.
>

Were you in safe mode logged on to the administrator account? I don't have
XP Home setup so I can't test it but for files and folders you have be
logged in safe mode as an administrator to see the security tab. I assume
printers work the same but I could be wrong.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

Just an FYI for everyone. Printers don't show up in safe mode at all.
Remember, it's "safe Möde" no external drivers are loaded so the pc doesn't
even recognize that a printer's there. Now, for the latest news, I've
restarted both systems and now the vista rc1 pc can't start the Computer
Browser service as it's already running on the XP Home box. U guessed it,
now even file sharing won't work as the Vista box can't "see"the Xp Machine.
Another dumb question too, why can't you manually add a network place as in
XP?

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> BigK wrote:
> > "Kerry Brown" <kerry.RemoveThis@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> > news:OWLg7qi5GHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> I'm guessing because I don't have an XP Home box but here goes. XP
> >> Home uses the guest account for sharing. In Vista the guest account
> >> is disabled. Try creating an administrator account on the XP Home
> >> computer with the same user name and password as you use on the
> >> Vista computer. Boot the XP Home computer into safe mode and logon
> >> as administrator. In the security tab of the printer properties make
> >> sure the user you just added has appropriate permissions.
> >
> > In my Home box there is no security tab in the Printer dialogue box.
> >
> > This is a common problem that I hope MS will fix in the final build. One
> > should not have to do the above to make it work.
> >
>
> Were you in safe mode logged on to the administrator account? I don't have
> XP Home setup so I can't test it but for files and folders you have be
> logged in safe mode as an administrator to see the security tab. I assume
> printers work the same but I could be wrong.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
>

OK, I was brain dead. Of course printers don't show up in safe mode. Have
you tried enabling the guest account on the Vista machine? Simple file
sharing always baffles me. It's anything but simple. As a rule of thumb all
computers have to have the guest account enabled for it to work. I also
usually create all the same accounts and passwords on all computers as well.

Part of the problem might be because of file or registry access problems on
the Vista computer if you don't already have the printer driver installed.
It will be trying to install the drivers from the XP Home computer. Try
temporarily disabling UAC and logging on with an administrator account.
Another option may be to install the printer as a local printer then change
the port to a network port once it's installed.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Jordan H. wrote:
> Just an FYI for everyone. Printers don't show up in safe mode at all.
> Remember, it's "safe Möde" no external drivers are loaded so the pc
> doesn't even recognize that a printer's there. Now, for the latest
> news, I've restarted both systems and now the vista rc1 pc can't
> start the Computer Browser service as it's already running on the XP
> Home box. U guessed it, now even file sharing won't work as the
> Vista box can't "see"the Xp Machine. Another dumb question too, why
> can't you manually add a network place as in XP?
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> BigK wrote:
>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry.TakeThisOut@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>> news:OWLg7qi5GHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I'm guessing because I don't have an XP Home box but here goes. XP
>>>> Home uses the guest account for sharing. In Vista the guest account
>>>> is disabled. Try creating an administrator account on the XP Home
>>>> computer with the same user name and password as you use on the
>>>> Vista computer. Boot the XP Home computer into safe mode and logon
>>>> as administrator. In the security tab of the printer properties
>>>> make sure the user you just added has appropriate permissions.
>>>
>>> In my Home box there is no security tab in the Printer dialogue box.
>>>
>>> This is a common problem that I hope MS will fix in the final
>>> build. One should not have to do the above to make it work.
>>>
>>
>> Were you in safe mode logged on to the administrator account? I
>> don't have XP Home setup so I can't test it but for files and
>> folders you have be logged in safe mode as an administrator to see
>> the security tab. I assume printers work the same but I could be
>> wrong.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca

OK, Tried the guest account thing and no joy. Still says Access denied.
This is really starting to p#$%s me off. What's the point in Vista if you
can't do something as simple as install a network printer?? I'm seriously
thinking of going to linux.

"Jordan H." wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> Here's the scoop, I'm trying to access a Lexmark X1185 from a Vista RC1 box
> running 32bit OS. The Printer is attached to a machine running XP Home SP2.
> File & Printer Sharing is enabled on both machines and I can access the
> shared folder on the XP machine from the Vista box. However when attempting
> to add the shared printer on Vista, it keeps popping up with an Äccess
> Denied" Error. I Should the I'm Dual Booting Vista and XP MCE2005 and on MCE
> the printer shows up just fine. Also when attempt this from the 64bit
> version of Vista the printer is able to be seen but I can't install the
> driver as it's only 32bit. Both Machines are part of the same workgroup
> (MSHOME) and I've checked all the settings on both. This shouldn't be a
> problem but Vista just won't let me at that printer. HELP!!!
>
> Jordan

> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the
> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer with the
> shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista drivers. You have to
> go to the computer that is sharing the printer and add Vista drivers with
> the additional drivers button. Because XP doesn't know about Vista this is
> not an option. You will probably have to hook up the printer to the Vista
> computer and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even available for
> it. Once it is working while connected directly to the Vista computer you
> can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change the port for the
> printer on the Vista computer to a network port. It is unlikely this will
> work with most USB printers. This is not really a Vista issue as much as
> it is a printer driver issue. You often run into the same thing when
> trying to print to a shared USB printer connected to a Windows 98 computer
> from a Windows XP computer. When you want to share a printer in a network
> with mixed versions of Windows it is usually best to connect the printer
> to a computer running the newest version on the network. Even then a lot
> of USB printers, and all in one units in particular, often have problems.


So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is shipped, will
this work when I download and install the vista drivers as I've always had
to do with my printers (even under XP). I download the driver and install
it on the host box and on the client laptop. I then add the network
printer. I tried doing it this way via Vista using the latest XP driver but
I get the access denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or will
MS require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this? If the
latter is the case, they can forget getting my business.

"BigK" <bigk.DeleteThis@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the
>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer with the
>> shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista drivers. You have to
>> go to the computer that is sharing the printer and add Vista drivers with
>> the additional drivers button. Because XP doesn't know about Vista this
>> is not an option. You will probably have to hook up the printer to the
>> Vista computer and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even
>> available for it. Once it is working while connected directly to the
>> Vista computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change
>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port. It is
>> unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not really a
>> Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You often run into
>> the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB printer connected to
>> a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP computer. When you want to share
>> a printer in a network with mixed versions of Windows it is usually best
>> to connect the printer to a computer running the newest version on the
>> network. Even then a lot of USB printers, and all in one units in
>> particular, often have problems.
>
>
> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is shipped, will
> this work when I download and install the vista drivers as I've always had
> to do with my printers (even under XP). I download the driver and install
> it on the host box and on the client laptop. I then add the network
> printer. I tried doing it this way via Vista using the latest XP driver
> but I get the access denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or
> will MS require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this?
> If the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business.
>

It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I just
installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It worked
flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build 5728. The first
printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2 computer with a USB cable.
The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server
with a parallel cable. I am logged on to Vista a standard local and domain
user (not an administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I
started the process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up
the Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to. A
window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the other
computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect. This is
generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP as well. For
the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped up. I entered a
password for an administrator user and the printer installed. For the
printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt since Vista has a built in
driver for that printer. For the Epson it downloaded the XP driver from the
XP box thus the UAC prompt. The Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as
the XP driver would have failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista
networking it is no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially
all in one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially
if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer is
hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS.

--
Kerry Brown
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
www.vistahelp.ca

Just a quick question Kerry,
You said your running Build 5728 right? I can only get a hold of RC1 Build
5600. I won't use those illegal builds that are floating around on P2P
networks and such as i don't trust them. How would I get a copy of 5728? it
may be just the build i'm using as i never had the access denied error on
beta 2 5384 in july there. the only problem i ran into was i was running the
x64 version and the printer was attached to a XP 32bit box. I couldn't
install the driver. Obviously. MAybe a different build of vista might help?

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> "BigK" <bigk.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the
> >> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer with the
> >> shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista drivers. You have to
> >> go to the computer that is sharing the printer and add Vista drivers with
> >> the additional drivers button. Because XP doesn't know about Vista this
> >> is not an option. You will probably have to hook up the printer to the
> >> Vista computer and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even
> >> available for it. Once it is working while connected directly to the
> >> Vista computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change
> >> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port. It is
> >> unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not really a
> >> Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You often run into
> >> the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB printer connected to
> >> a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP computer. When you want to share
> >> a printer in a network with mixed versions of Windows it is usually best
> >> to connect the printer to a computer running the newest version on the
> >> network. Even then a lot of USB printers, and all in one units in
> >> particular, often have problems.
> >
> >
> > So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is shipped, will
> > this work when I download and install the vista drivers as I've always had
> > to do with my printers (even under XP). I download the driver and install
> > it on the host box and on the client laptop. I then add the network
> > printer. I tried doing it this way via Vista using the latest XP driver
> > but I get the access denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or
> > will MS require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this?
> > If the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business.
> >
>
> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I just
> installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It worked
> flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build 5728. The first
> printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2 computer with a USB cable.
> The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server
> with a parallel cable. I am logged on to Vista a standard local and domain
> user (not an administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I
> started the process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up
> the Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to. A
> window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the other
> computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect. This is
> generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP as well. For
> the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped up. I entered a
> password for an administrator user and the printer installed. For the
> printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt since Vista has a built in
> driver for that printer. For the Epson it downloaded the XP driver from the
> XP box thus the UAC prompt. The Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as
> the XP driver would have failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista
> networking it is no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially
> all in one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially
> if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer is
> hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> www.vistahelp.ca
>
>

But neither of your computers are running Home. It seems to be a Home issue.


"Kerry Brown" <kerry.RemoveThis@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:%23HPzOSD6GHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "BigK" <bigk.RemoveThis@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the
>>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer with the
>>> shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista drivers. You have to
>>> go to the computer that is sharing the printer and add Vista drivers
>>> with the additional drivers button. Because XP doesn't know about Vista
>>> this is not an option. You will probably have to hook up the printer to
>>> the Vista computer and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even
>>> available for it. Once it is working while connected directly to the
>>> Vista computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change
>>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port. It is
>>> unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not really a
>>> Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You often run into
>>> the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB printer connected to
>>> a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP computer. When you want to share
>>> a printer in a network with mixed versions of Windows it is usually best
>>> to connect the printer to a computer running the newest version on the
>>> network. Even then a lot of USB printers, and all in one units in
>>> particular, often have problems.
>>
>>
>> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is shipped,
>> will this work when I download and install the vista drivers as I've
>> always had to do with my printers (even under XP). I download the driver
>> and install it on the host box and on the client laptop. I then add the
>> network printer. I tried doing it this way via Vista using the latest XP
>> driver but I get the access denied. So will this work when I get Vista
>> drivers or will MS require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to
>> do this? If the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business.
>>
>
> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I just
> installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It worked
> flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build 5728. The first
> printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2 computer with a USB
> cable. The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2
> server with a parallel cable. I am logged on to Vista a standard local and
> domain user (not an administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases
> I started the process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring
> up the Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect
> to. A window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the
> other computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect. This is
> generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP as well. For
> the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped up. I entered a
> password for an administrator user and the printer installed. For the
> printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt since Vista has a built
> in driver for that printer. For the Epson it downloaded the XP driver from
> the XP box thus the UAC prompt. The Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista
> x64 as the XP driver would have failed. If you have a printer that works
> in Vista networking it is no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers
> especially all in one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well,
> especially if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the
> printer is hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> www.vistahelp.ca
>

The public download of 5728 is closed. I don't know where you could get it
now.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Jordan H. wrote:
> Just a quick question Kerry,
> You said your running Build 5728 right? I can only get a hold of
> RC1 Build 5600. I won't use those illegal builds that are floating
> around on P2P networks and such as i don't trust them. How would I
> get a copy of 5728? it may be just the build i'm using as i never
> had the access denied error on beta 2 5384 in july there. the only
> problem i ran into was i was running the x64 version and the printer
> was attached to a XP 32bit box. I couldn't install the driver.
> Obviously. MAybe a different build of vista might help?
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> "BigK" <bigk RemoveThis @bellsouth.com> wrote in message
>> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the
>>>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer
>>>> with the shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista
>>>> drivers. You have to go to the computer that is sharing the
>>>> printer and add Vista drivers with the additional drivers button.
>>>> Because XP doesn't know about Vista this is not an option. You
>>>> will probably have to hook up the printer to the Vista computer
>>>> and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even available for
>>>> it. Once it is working while connected directly to the Vista
>>>> computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change
>>>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port.
>>>> It is unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not
>>>> really a Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You
>>>> often run into the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB
>>>> printer connected to a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP
>>>> computer. When you want to share a printer in a network with mixed
>>>> versions of Windows it is usually best to connect the printer to a
>>>> computer running the newest version on the network. Even then a
>>>> lot of USB printers, and all in one units in particular, often
>>>> have problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is
>>> shipped, will this work when I download and install the vista
>>> drivers as I've always had to do with my printers (even under XP).
>>> I download the driver and install it on the host box and on the
>>> client laptop. I then add the network printer. I tried doing it
>>> this way via Vista using the latest XP driver but I get the access
>>> denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or will MS
>>> require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this? If
>>> the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business.
>>>
>>
>> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I
>> just installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It
>> worked flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build
>> 5728. The first printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2
>> computer with a USB cable. The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser
>> hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server with a parallel cable. I am
>> logged on to Vista a standard local and domain user (not an
>> administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I started the
>> process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up the
>> Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to.
>> A window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the
>> other computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect.
>> This is generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP
>> as well. For the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped
>> up. I entered a password for an administrator user and the printer
>> installed. For the printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt
>> since Vista has a built in driver for that printer. For the Epson it
>> downloaded the XP driver from the XP box thus the UAC prompt. The
>> Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as the XP driver would have
>> failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista networking it is
>> no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially all in
>> one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially
>> if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer
>> is hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> www.vistahelp.ca

I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2 computer.
I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home computer on LPT1 and
shared it. I was able to connect and print from a Vista Ultimate RC2
computer no problem. When I tried to add a network printer it initially
couldn't find any. I picked specify a printer and typed in the UNC path to
printer. Vista found it installed the driver, and orinted a test page. I
then tested printing some multi-page documents. I didn't change any network
settings from the defaults on either computer. It may be the problems people
are having has to do with printers that have no native drivers in Vista or
USB printers that often have problems being networked.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


BigK wrote:
> But neither of your computers are running Home. It seems to be a Home
> issue.
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry.RemoveThis@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:%23HPzOSD6GHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "BigK" <bigk.RemoveThis@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
>> news:Op3QrxC6GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> When you install a network printer the drivers are loaded from the
>>>> computer where the printer is shared from. Because the computer
>>>> with the shared printer is running XP it will not have Vista
>>>> drivers. You have to go to the computer that is sharing the
>>>> printer and add Vista drivers with the additional drivers button.
>>>> Because XP doesn't know about Vista this is not an option. You
>>>> will probably have to hook up the printer to the Vista computer
>>>> and install the drivers if Vista drivers are even available for
>>>> it. Once it is working while connected directly to the Vista
>>>> computer you can then re-connect it to the XP computer and change
>>>> the port for the printer on the Vista computer to a network port.
>>>> It is unlikely this will work with most USB printers. This is not
>>>> really a Vista issue as much as it is a printer driver issue. You
>>>> often run into the same thing when trying to print to a shared USB
>>>> printer connected to a Windows 98 computer from a Windows XP
>>>> computer. When you want to share a printer in a network with mixed
>>>> versions of Windows it is usually best to connect the printer to a
>>>> computer running the newest version on the network. Even then a
>>>> lot of USB printers, and all in one units in particular, often
>>>> have problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> So assuming my printer's get Vista drivers when the final is
>>> shipped, will this work when I download and install the vista
>>> drivers as I've always had to do with my printers (even under XP). I
>>> download the driver and install it on the host box and on the
>>> client laptop. I then add the network printer. I tried doing it
>>> this way via Vista using the latest XP driver but I get the access
>>> denied. So will this work when I get Vista drivers or will MS
>>> require me to upgrade all the PCs to Vista in order to do this? If
>>> the latter is the case, they can forget getting my business.
>>
>> It will depend on how the printer manufacturer writes the driver. I
>> just installed two network printers on this computer as a test. It
>> worked flawlessly. This computer is running Vista Ultimate build
>> 5728. The first printer is an Epson C68 hooked up to a XP Pro SP2
>> computer with a USB cable. The second printer is an IBM 4019 laser
>> hooked up to a SBS 2003 SP2 server with a parallel cable. I am
>> logged on to Vista a standard local and domain user (not an
>> administrator locally or in the domain). In both cases I started the
>> process by pressing the Windows-R key combination to bring up the
>> Run box. I typed in the name of the computer I wanted to connect to.
>> A window opened with all the shares, including the printer, on the
>> other computer. I right clicked on the printer and picked connect.
>> This is generally the best way to connect to a network printer in XP
>> as well. For the printer connected to the XP box a UAC prompt popped
>> up. I entered a password for an administrator user and the printer
>> installed. For the printer on the server I didn't get the UAC prompt
>> since Vista has a built in driver for that printer. For the Epson it
>> downloaded the XP driver from the XP box thus the UAC prompt. The
>> Epson wouldn't have worked in Vista x64 as the XP driver would have
>> failed. If you have a printer that works in Vista networking it is
>> no harder than XP. Networking some USB printers especially all in
>> one units is sometimes hard to impossible in XP as well, especially
>> if you are running the 64 bit version of Windows XP and the printer
>> is hooked up to a computer running a 32 bit OS. --
>> Kerry Brown
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> www.vistahelp.ca

"Kerry Brown" <kerry RemoveThis @kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
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>I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2
>computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home computer on
>LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print from a Vista Ultimate
>RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add a network printer it initially
>couldn't find any. I picked specify a printer and typed in the UNC path to
>printer. Vista found it installed the driver, and orinted a test page. I
>then tested printing some multi-page documents. I didn't change any network
>settings from the defaults on either computer. It may be the problems
>people are having has to do with printers that have no native drivers in
>Vista or USB printers that often have problems being networked.

Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB printers on
XP or Linux.

I have had problems networking USB printers especially when there is a mix
of OS's. For example I had a Epson USB printer that worked on both Windows
Me and XP but neither could share it to the other computer. I had a similar
problem with a Lexmark all in one in an office with a mix of Windows 98, XP
Home, and XP Pro computers. Hooked up to Windows 98 the XP computers
wouldn't print. Hooked up to XP Home the Windows 98 computers wouldn't
print. Hooked up to XP Pro all the computers could print. I have also seen
both Lexmark and Canon printers that could not be shared in any fashion.
With some HP USB printers you have to install the software from the CD on
each computer then change the port to get them to network. With parallel
printers I have never had a problem sharing as long as there were native
drivers for all the connected OS's.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


BigK wrote:
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry DeleteThis @kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:%23ggHD0K9GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2
>> computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home
>> computer on LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print from
>> a Vista Ultimate RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add a
>> network printer it initially couldn't find any. I picked specify a
>> printer and typed in the UNC path to printer. Vista found it
>> installed the driver, and orinted a test page. I then tested
>> printing some multi-page documents. I didn't change any network
>> settings from the defaults on either computer. It may be the
>> problems people are having has to do with printers that have no
>> native drivers in Vista or USB printers that often have problems
>> being networked.
>
> Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB
> printers on XP or Linux.

Search for my name bigk and you will find the solution to this. I posted it
here or in the printer/fax group. Can't remember which but I was reading
old message and saw this one


"BigK" <bigk DeleteThis @bellsouth.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry DeleteThis @kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:%23ggHD0K9GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2
>>computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home computer on
>>LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print from a Vista Ultimate
>>RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add a network printer it
>>initially couldn't find any. I picked specify a printer and typed in the
>>UNC path to printer. Vista found it installed the driver, and orinted a
>>test page. I then tested printing some multi-page documents. I didn't
>>change any network settings from the defaults on either computer. It may
>>be the problems people are having has to do with printers that have no
>>native drivers in Vista or USB printers that often have problems being
>>networked.
>
> Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB printers
> on XP or Linux.
>
>
>

Ahh BigK,
Got your back-
Got it down to a science now(thanks for the info-btw)

Kerry,
Have an HP on a XP Home; and I get to it from Vista easy now; after BigK
showed me how.
Do this,
In Vista,
Control panel>printer>add printer- lpt-pick your printer driver-the
networked one-install driver
after you see the printer in vista
right click on it>properties>add new port>local port
type in \\computer\name
Bingo-networked printer

Jeff

"bigk" <bigk.DeleteThis@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
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> Search for my name bigk and you will find the solution to this. I posted
> it here or in the printer/fax group. Can't remember which but I was
> reading old message and saw this one
>
>
> "BigK" <bigk.DeleteThis@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
> news:exwPGMX9GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry.DeleteThis@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:%23ggHD0K9GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2
>>>computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home computer on
>>>LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print from a Vista Ultimate
>>>RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add a network printer it
>>>initially couldn't find any. I picked specify a printer and typed in the
>>>UNC path to printer. Vista found it installed the driver, and orinted a
>>>test page. I then tested printing some multi-page documents. I didn't
>>>change any network settings from the defaults on either computer. It may
>>>be the problems people are having has to do with printers that have no
>>>native drivers in Vista or USB printers that often have problems being
>>>networked.
>>
>> Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB printers
>> on XP or Linux.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I posted this method in a few threads a while ago. One is the thread titled
"Still Cannot Add Network Printer - Access Denied" in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan. I tried to find the other
threads about the subject to update them but I guess I missed this one. It's
a common method to get a printer working when you're having networking
problems. It works in most versions of Windows all the way back to win95. I
hardly ever use XP Home so I had to setup a VPC image with XP Home to test
it and make sure it worked with Home and Vista. By the time I did this all
the threads on the subject were pretty old.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
www.vistahelp.ca



Jeff wrote:
> Ahh BigK,
> Got your back-
> Got it down to a science now(thanks for the info-btw)
>
> Kerry,
> Have an HP on a XP Home; and I get to it from Vista easy now; after
> BigK showed me how.
> Do this,
> In Vista,
> Control panel>printer>add printer- lpt-pick your printer driver-the
> networked one-install driver
> after you see the printer in vista
> right click on it>properties>add new port>local port
> type in \\computer\name
> Bingo-networked printer
>
> Jeff
>
> "bigk" <bigk RemoveThis @bellsouth.com> wrote in message
> news:%23bBtAqdEHHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Search for my name bigk and you will find the solution to this. I
>> posted it here or in the printer/fax group. Can't remember which
>> but I was reading old message and saw this one
>>
>>
>> "BigK" <bigk RemoveThis @bellsouth.com> wrote in message
>> news:exwPGMX9GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry RemoveThis @kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>> news:%23ggHD0K9GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> I finally got a chance to try networking Vista with an XP Home SP2
>>>> computer. I installed a IBM 4019 laser printer on the XP Home
>>>> computer on LPT1 and shared it. I was able to connect and print
>>>> from a Vista Ultimate RC2 computer no problem. When I tried to add
>>>> a network printer it initially couldn't find any. I picked specify
>>>> a printer and typed in the UNC path to printer. Vista found it
>>>> installed the driver, and orinted a test page. I then tested
>>>> printing some multi-page documents. I didn't change any network
>>>> settings from the defaults on either computer. It may be the
>>>> problems people are having has to do with printers that have no
>>>> native drivers in Vista or USB printers that often have problems
>>>> being networked.
>>>
>>> Unitl Vista, I've never had any problem networking any of my USB
>>> printers on XP or Linux.

too littlte too late- usually my excuse
bt thanks for tryin

"Kerry Brown" <kerry.TakeThisOut@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message