McAfee isn't picking up a pest!!!

Gary · External Since: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 2

Somewhere along the way I picked up a pest or virus that starts up MS
Internet Explorer and points me to a site that wants to do a virus
scan. It's a persistent little bugger. MSIE isn't even my browser of
choice...I use mostly Mozilla Firefox.

I have the full McAfee 2007 Internet Security Suite, which hasn't
picked up this pest and removed it despite NIGHTLY scans.

What's the best program out there that will keep annoyances off my
computer? I'm ready to rip out McAfee and install something that
works! I'm tired of spending money on programs that don't do as
advertised.

I have tried Kaspersky AV, but it kept asking me to make decisions
about things I didn't understand. If it's good, them I'm willing to
invest in the education necessary to properly use the product.

Vanguard · External Since: Feb 02, 2007 Posts: 22

"Gary" <gary_w1.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bhu763d03feqqbb40cv0h2ufti1dv8mf21@4ax.com...
> Somewhere along the way I picked up a pest or virus that starts up MS
> Internet Explorer and points me to a site that wants to do a virus
> scan. It's a persistent little bugger. MSIE isn't even my browser of
> choice...I use mostly Mozilla Firefox.
>
> I have the full McAfee 2007 Internet Security Suite, which hasn't
> picked up this pest and removed it despite NIGHTLY scans.
>
> What's the best program out there that will keep annoyances off my
> computer? I'm ready to rip out McAfee and install something that
> works! I'm tired of spending money on programs that don't do as
> advertised.
>
> I have tried Kaspersky AV, but it kept asking me to make decisions
> about things I didn't understand. If it's good, them I'm willing to
> invest in the education necessary to properly use the product.

No anti-virus program is 100% reliable. Read
http://www.av-comparatives.org/. You see any listed at 100% coverage?
If you can't enforce safe surfing then perhaps you should look into
intrusion protection software (IPS) for zero-day pests. I know of Prevx
but its 1R (research) version isn't free anymore. However, no security
can overcome an ignorant user that deliberately installs software and
answers all prompts to bypass them, because security is supposed to
protect the user, not deter them from making their own choices on the
use of their own resources.

Did you check McAfee Viruscan to make sure that you are getting updates?
Maybe what you have is old.

Joe · External Since: Apr 27, 2007 Posts: 10

Just a thought- it seems that few people who create virus and other such
problems for us ever get caught. Why is that? If some were punished
severely, I think this problem would lessen, somewhat anyways. Maybe a few
years of hard labor on a Georgia road crew might be convincing.

Or maybe the anti virus program makers like having those bums out there?

"Vanguard" <no.DeleteThis@mail.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Gary" <gary_w1.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bhu763d03feqqbb40cv0h2ufti1dv8mf21@4ax.com...
>> Somewhere along the way I picked up a pest or virus that starts up MS
>> Internet Explorer and points me to a site that wants to do a virus
>> scan. It's a persistent little bugger. MSIE isn't even my browser of
>> choice...I use mostly Mozilla Firefox.
>>
>> I have the full McAfee 2007 Internet Security Suite, which hasn't
>> picked up this pest and removed it despite NIGHTLY scans.
>>
>> What's the best program out there that will keep annoyances off my
>> computer? I'm ready to rip out McAfee and install something that
>> works! I'm tired of spending money on programs that don't do as
>> advertised.
>>
>> I have tried Kaspersky AV, but it kept asking me to make decisions
>> about things I didn't understand. If it's good, them I'm willing to
>> invest in the education necessary to properly use the product.
>
>
> No anti-virus program is 100% reliable. Read
> http://www.av-comparatives.org/. You see any listed at 100% coverage? If
> you can't enforce safe surfing then perhaps you should look into intrusion
> protection software (IPS) for zero-day pests. I know of Prevx but its 1R
> (research) version isn't free anymore. However, no security can overcome
> an ignorant user that deliberately installs software and answers all
> prompts to bypass them, because security is supposed to protect the user,
> not deter them from making their own choices on the use of their own
> resources.
>
> Did you check McAfee Viruscan to make sure that you are getting updates?
> Maybe what you have is old.
>

ed · External Since: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 5

try some of the online scans
trendmicro.com
drweb.com cureit

also try avg anti spyware.
i have heard about superantispyware but have not used it.

what web site is it taking your browser to?
do not go to veloz.com or stopsign.com aka stop-sign.com from what i
here they are practically spyware them selves.

kurt wismer · External Since: Jul 04, 2003 Posts: 1496

Joe wrote:
> Just a thought- it seems that few people who create virus and other such
> problems for us ever get caught. Why is that? If some were punished
> severely, I think this problem would lessen, somewhat anyways. Maybe a
> few years of hard labor on a Georgia road crew might be convincing.
>
> Or maybe the anti virus program makers like having those bums out there?

or maybe you haven't a clue...

there have been a number of convictions of virus writers in the past...
not a huge number, mind, you, but a number... the problem isn't that
nobody wants to catch them it's that it's hard to find them, hard to
figure out who they are, and hard to bring charges against them because
they often aren't in the same jurisdiction as the people trying to catch
them...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

Gary · External Since: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 2

By browser is going to http://www.drivecleaner.com.

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:42:30 -0000, ed <trekie12cat RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>try some of the online scans
>trendmicro.com
>drweb.com cureit
>
>also try avg anti spyware.
>i have heard about superantispyware but have not used it.
>
>what web site is it taking your browser to?
>do not go to veloz.com or stopsign.com aka stop-sign.com from what i
>here they are practically spyware them selves.

David H. Lipman · External Since: Jul 04, 2003 Posts: 2116

From: "Gary" <gary_w1.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>

| Somewhere along the way I picked up a pest or virus that starts up MS
| Internet Explorer and points me to a site that wants to do a virus
| scan. It's a persistent little bugger. MSIE isn't even my browser of
| choice...I use mostly Mozilla Firefox.
|
| I have the full McAfee 2007 Internet Security Suite, which hasn't
| picked up this pest and removed it despite NIGHTLY scans.
|
| What's the best program out there that will keep annoyances off my
| computer? I'm ready to rip out McAfee and install something that
| works! I'm tired of spending money on programs that don't do as
| advertised.
|
| I have tried Kaspersky AV, but it kept asking me to make decisions
| about things I didn't understand. If it's good, them I'm willing to
| invest in the education necessary to properly use the product.

You said...
"...points me to a site that wants to do a virus scan."
Please post the URL to that site.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Vanguard · External Since: Feb 02, 2007 Posts: 22

"Joe" <abc RemoveThis @xyz.com> wrote in message
news:T8V8i.7756$Gy4.3950@trndny08...
> Just a thought- it seems that few people who create virus and other
> such problems for us ever get caught. Why is that? If some were
> punished severely, I think this problem would lessen, somewhat
> anyways. Maybe a few years of hard labor on a Georgia road crew might
> be convincing.
>
> Or maybe the anti virus program makers like having those bums out
> there?

Geez, talk about not having a life that you would waste in on following
the trials and tribulations of a convicted malware author.

What's in a Name? · External Since: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 4

On 6/4/2007 3:19 PM, Gary after much thought,came up with this jewel:
> browser is going to http://xxx.drivecleaner.com. (munged)

Thanks to my use of the latest and greatest MVPS Hosts file,I get a 404.
Gotta love it!

max
--
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specifically setup for USENET.Feel free to use it yourself.

C J. · External Since: May 19, 2006 Posts: 53

Joe <abc RemoveThis @xyz.com> wrote:
> Just a thought- it seems that few people who create virus and other
> such problems for us ever get caught. Why is that? If some were
> punished severely, I think this problem would lessen, somewhat
> anyways. Maybe a few years of hard labor on a Georgia road crew might
> be convincing.
> Or maybe the anti virus program makers like having those bums out
> there?
>
>
>
> "Vanguard" <no RemoveThis @mail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:QNOdneA88pwUi_nbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> "Gary" <gary_w1 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:bhu763d03feqqbb40cv0h2ufti1dv8mf21@4ax.com...
>>> Somewhere along the way I picked up a pest or virus that starts up
>>> MS Internet Explorer and points me to a site that wants to do a
>>> virus scan. It's a persistent little bugger. MSIE isn't even my
>>> browser of choice...I use mostly Mozilla Firefox.
>>>
>>> I have the full McAfee 2007 Internet Security Suite, which hasn't
>>> picked up this pest and removed it despite NIGHTLY scans.
>>>
>>> What's the best program out there that will keep annoyances off my
>>> computer? I'm ready to rip out McAfee and install something that
>>> works! I'm tired of spending money on programs that don't do as
>>> advertised.
>>>
>>> I have tried Kaspersky AV, but it kept asking me to make decisions
>>> about things I didn't understand. If it's good, them I'm willing to
>>> invest in the education necessary to properly use the product.
>>
>>
>> No anti-virus program is 100% reliable. Read
>> http://www.av-comparatives.org/. You see any listed at 100%
>> coverage? If you can't enforce safe surfing then perhaps you should
>> look into intrusion protection software (IPS) for zero-day pests. I
>> know of Prevx but its 1R (research) version isn't free anymore. However,
>> no security can overcome an ignorant user that deliberately
>> installs software and answers all prompts to bypass them, because
>> security is supposed to protect the user, not deter them from making
>> their own choices on the use of their own resources.
>>
>> Did you check McAfee Viruscan to make sure that you are getting
>> updates? Maybe what you have is old.

The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who are
caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the Federal
Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face the firing squad
as a punishment.

Vanguard · External Since: Feb 02, 2007 Posts: 22

"C J." wrote in message
news:hn69i.12667$rO7.5649@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who
> are caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the
> Federal Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face the
> firing squad as a punishment.

Yeah, right, let's get vigilante on them, like that's a responsible
attitude. So do you also want pickpockets who steal a different
resource of yours to also have their hands or fingers chopped off? You
must be a religious fanatic who dreams of the good old days when hands
were lopped off thieves. So when are you going to lop off your dick for
all those times you've masturbated and wasted seed? I suppose it takes
time for the child to grow out of the adult. So is your boss sharpening
his axe to lop off one of your protruberances because you've been
delving into the company supplies to give your kids their pens and pads
when school starts? Oh, forgot, you aren't old enough to have a job
except maybe to ask "Want fries with that?" They're thieves so they
should get punished to the same extent as any other thief stealing the
same amount of value.

foghollow · External Since: May 09, 2007 Posts: 33

In article <jdp863dun2rp42ropsos142ene11mi9bc7.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
gary_w1.DeleteThis@hotmail.com says...
> By browser is going to http://www.drivecleaner.com.

Sounds like you've got some adware rather than a virus or trojan or worm or...
Which may be why McAfee isn't seeing it - it's not something McAfee's looking for.
Try Lavasoft's Ad-Aware (there's a free version if you fight your way past the links to the
paid version) and Safe Networking's SpyBot Search & Destroy
>
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:42:30 -0000, ed <trekie12cat.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >try some of the online scans
> >trendmicro.com
> >drweb.com cureit
> >
> >also try avg anti spyware.
> >i have heard about superantispyware but have not used it.
> >
> >what web site is it taking your browser to?
> >do not go to veloz.com or stopsign.com aka stop-sign.com from what i
> >here they are practically spyware them selves.
>

--
If you don't want the whelks don't muck 'em about
If you don't want them someone else may

C J. · External Since: May 19, 2006 Posts: 53

Vanguard <no.DeleteThis@mail.invalid> wrote:
> "C J." wrote in message
> news:hn69i.12667$rO7.5649@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who
>> are caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the
>> Federal Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face the
>> firing squad as a punishment.
>
>
> Yeah, right, let's get vigilante on them, like that's a responsible
> attitude. So do you also want pickpockets who steal a different
> resource of yours to also have their hands or fingers chopped off? You
> must be a religious fanatic who dreams of the good old days when
> hands were lopped off thieves. So when are you going to lop off your
> dick for all those times you've masturbated and wasted seed? I
> suppose it takes time for the child to grow out of the adult. So is
> your boss sharpening his axe to lop off one of your protruberances
> because you've been delving into the company supplies to give your
> kids their pens and pads when school starts? Oh, forgot, you aren't
> old enough to have a job except maybe to ask "Want fries with that?"
> They're thieves so they should get punished to the same extent as any
> other thief stealing the same amount of value.

You really need to do yourself a big favor - and lighten up. I was joking
around.

Slarty · External Since: Feb 18, 2007 Posts: 8

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:19:09 GMT, C J. wrote:

> The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who are
> caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the Federal
> Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face the firing squad
> as a punishment.

*Idiot*

C J. · External Since: May 19, 2006 Posts: 53

Slarty <plink.1.RoyTubb RemoveThis @spamgourmet.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:19:09 GMT, C J. wrote:
>
>> The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who
>> are caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the
>> Federal Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face
>> the firing squad as a punishment.
>
> *Idiot*

See my reply to Vanguard. Whose the idiot now??

Vanguard · External Since: Feb 02, 2007 Posts: 22

"C J." <no.reply RemoveThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
news:aEg9i.32143$Um6.30289@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> Vanguard <no RemoveThis @mail.invalid> wrote:
>> "C J." wrote in message
>> news:hn69i.12667$rO7.5649@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>> The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who
>>> are caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the
>>> Federal Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face
>>> the
>>> firing squad as a punishment.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, right, let's get vigilante on them, like that's a responsible
>> attitude. So do you also want pickpockets who steal a different
>> resource of yours to also have their hands or fingers chopped off?
>> You must be a religious fanatic who dreams of the good old days when
>> hands were lopped off thieves. So when are you going to lop off your
>> dick for all those times you've masturbated and wasted seed? I
>> suppose it takes time for the child to grow out of the adult. So is
>> your boss sharpening his axe to lop off one of your protruberances
>> because you've been delving into the company supplies to give your
>> kids their pens and pads when school starts? Oh, forgot, you aren't
>> old enough to have a job except maybe to ask "Want fries with that?"
>> They're thieves so they should get punished to the same extent as any
>> other thief stealing the same amount of value.
>
> You really need to do yourself a big favor - and lighten up. I was
> joking around.

What, you like to yank others chains but can't take it? Got a friend
like that. He makes insults but goes ballistic on the return.

Vanguard · External Since: Feb 02, 2007 Posts: 22

"C J." <no.reply DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
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> Slarty <plink.1.RoyTubb DeleteThis @spamgourmet.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:19:09 GMT, C J. wrote:
>>
>>> The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who
>>> are caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the
>>> Federal Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face
>>> the firing squad as a punishment.
>>
>> *Idiot*
>
> See my reply to Vanguard. Whose the idiot now??

You, because what people see is what you typed, not some inflection in
your voice as you heard it in your head. You do not have the knack for
sarcastic wit in writ; therefore, learn to use emoticons. ;->

C J. · External Since: May 19, 2006 Posts: 53

Vanguard <no.RemoveThis@mail.invalid> wrote:
> "C J." <no.reply.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:PEg9i.32144$Um6.15020@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
>> Slarty <plink.1.RoyTubb.RemoveThis@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:19:09 GMT, C J. wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who
>>>> are caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the
>>>> Federal Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face
>>>> the firing squad as a punishment.
>>>
>>> *Idiot*
>>
>> See my reply to Vanguard. Whose the idiot now??
>
>
> You, because what people see is what you typed, not some inflection in
> your voice as you heard it in your head. You do not have the knack
> for sarcastic wit in writ; therefore, learn to use emoticons. ;->

Would you like to Supersize your Fries on that order Van?? Very Happy

C J. · External Since: May 19, 2006 Posts: 53

Vanguard <no.TakeThisOut@mail.invalid> wrote:
> "C J." <no.reply.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:aEg9i.32143$Um6.30289@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
>> Vanguard <no.TakeThisOut@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> "C J." wrote in message
>>> news:hn69i.12667$rO7.5649@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>>> The "war on web terror" isn't going to won, until virus writers who
>>>> are caught doing this stuff, end up getting lengthly stays in the
>>>> Federal Prision system, or start losing fingers or hands, or face
>>>> the
>>>> firing squad as a punishment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, right, let's get vigilante on them, like that's a responsible
>>> attitude. So do you also want pickpockets who steal a different
>>> resource of yours to also have their hands or fingers chopped off?
>>> You must be a religious fanatic who dreams of the good old days when
>>> hands were lopped off thieves. So when are you going to lop off
>>> your dick for all those times you've masturbated and wasted seed? I
>>> suppose it takes time for the child to grow out of the adult. So is
>>> your boss sharpening his axe to lop off one of your protruberances
>>> because you've been delving into the company supplies to give your
>>> kids their pens and pads when school starts? Oh, forgot, you aren't
>>> old enough to have a job except maybe to ask "Want fries with that?"
>>> They're thieves so they should get punished to the same extent as
>>> any other thief stealing the same amount of value.
>>
>> You really need to do yourself a big favor - and lighten up. I was
>> joking around.
>
>
> What, you like to yank others chains but can't take it? Got a friend
> like that. He makes insults but goes ballistic on the return.

Who insulted who here? Am I insulted? Are you kidding?? lmao!