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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: spybot question
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Just downloaded SB 1.3 and when I run it, it finds an Alexa entry.

Googling on this gives mixed messages about it.

What do you think/know?
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: spybot question [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Me" wrote in message
> Just downloaded SB 1.3 and when I run it, it finds an Alexa entry.
>
> Googling on this gives mixed messages about it.
>
> What do you think/know?

I think that it is up to you to decide whether or not you desire
this feature. Some "spyware" actually *does* enhance your
browsing experience just as some "adware" is legitimate for
ad supported freeware. It is not *all* malware as some believe.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: spybot question [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Me" wrote in message

> Just downloaded SB 1.3 and when I run it, it finds an Alexa entry.
>
> Googling on this gives mixed messages about it.
>
> What do you think/know?
>

I have WinME, and when I run SpyBot it generally find the Alexa along with a
few others. I just tell it to clean and it takes care of everything. I
have never had a problem with my system or any programs not operating
properly because of this. But, if you are not sure, then just have that one
omitted from the fix list.

HTH

Jan Smile
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GSV Three Minds in a Can
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: spybot question [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Bitstring , from the
wonderful person Me said
>Just downloaded SB 1.3 and when I run it, it finds an Alexa entry.
>
>Googling on this gives mixed messages about it.
>
>What do you think/know?

Yes, it will find the Alexa related stuff on all WinXP IE6.x
installations, iirc.
It is not 'really' spyware (says MS, who ISTR put it there in the first
place) on the other hand it isn't actually necessary either, so you can
safely trash it (I did).

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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: spybot question [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"FromTheRafters" squirted these wordjisms deep inside
the bumtube of the newstwat in

> "Me" wrote in message
>
>> Just downloaded SB 1.3 and when I run it, it finds an Alexa entry.
>>
>> Googling on this gives mixed messages about it.
>>
>> What do you think/know?
>
> I think that it is up to you to decide whether or not you desire
> this feature. Some "spyware" actually *does* enhance your
> browsing experience just as some "adware" is legitimate for
> ad supported freeware. It is not *all* malware as some believe.
>
>
>


Spyware and adware do constitute the definition of malware if a) you didn't
deliberately decide to install it, and b) it does something you would
rather it didn't. No excuses, end of.

If you install something and spyware piggybacks in on it unbeknowst to you,
then that something, spyware or whatever, is technically a trojan.

In my opinion, obviously.

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FromTheRafters
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: spybot question [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"David Qunt" wrote in message
> "FromTheRafters" squirted these wordjisms deep inside
> the bumtube of the newstwat in
>
> > "Me" wrote in message
> >
> >> Just downloaded SB 1.3 and when I run it, it finds an Alexa entry.
> >>
> >> Googling on this gives mixed messages about it.
> >>
> >> What do you think/know?
> >
> > I think that it is up to you to decide whether or not you desire
> > this feature. Some "spyware" actually *does* enhance your
> > browsing experience just as some "adware" is legitimate for
> > ad supported freeware. It is not *all* malware as some believe.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Spyware and adware do constitute the definition of malware if a) you didn't
> deliberately decide to install it,

Did you deliberately install Windows and IE/OE? Alexa is
part of that "deliberate" installation (and IIRC it comes back
sometimes if you visit WindowsUpdate - deliberately).

I didn't deliberately decide to have websites place cookies on
my machine, yet my browsing experience is enhanced somewhat
by sites I visit addressing me by name and displaying things of
interest to me instead of generic 'one size fits all' offerings. Cookies
are only one aspect of what is commonly called "spyware" by many
people and programs.

> and b) it does something you would
> rather it didn't.

I have never installed a program that didn't do something I rather it
didn't do - in fact my "MailWasher" give me a close look at papa
smurf's butt almost every time I close it.

> No excuses, end of.

So, *everything* is malware in your view?

> If you install something and spyware piggybacks in on it unbeknowst to you,
> then that something, spyware or whatever, is technically a trojan.

Just because someone doesn't know what a program does,
doesn't mean that that program is malware. Most of the time
the "not knowing" person is just uninformed because he or she
didn't read the documentation that came with the program.

> In my opinion, obviously.

Everything is malware because you don't know everything it
does, (some of which you would rather it not do) and you
didn't give your explicit permission, for each and every function
that the program performs, to execute.

I feel that that is too wide a definition to be useful.

....but of course you are welcome to it. ;o)
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: spybot question [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:30:54 +0100, Conor wrote:

> In article ,
> Me DeleteThis @graceland.co.uk says...
>> Just downloaded SB 1.3 and when I run it, it finds an Alexa entry.
>>
>> Googling on this gives mixed messages about it.
>>
>> What do you think/know?
>>
> Its part of Windows.


I believe it's part of a "feature" of IE related to "related links".
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