F-Prot

Richard Oliver · External Since: Feb 03, 2004 Posts: 15

Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
--Richard

badgolferman · External Since: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 124

Richard Oliver, 7/28/2005, 11:31:03 AM,
<rbthe15iq2nk0isfq0ikh2um2rjv4up0i8.RemoveThis@4ax.com> wrote:

> Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
> --Richard

F-Prot for Windows will, F-Prot for DOS won't. At first it looks like
it is, but it shuts down shortly into the scan.

--
"I miss. I miss. I miss. I make."
Seve Ballesteros describing his four-putt at Augusta's No. 16 in 1988.

Malke · External Since: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 7

badgolferman wrote:

> Richard Oliver, 7/28/2005, 11:31:03 AM,
> <rbthe15iq2nk0isfq0ikh2um2rjv4up0i8.DeleteThis@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>> Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
>> --Richard
>
> F-Prot for Windows will, F-Prot for DOS won't. At first it looks like
> it is, but it shuts down shortly into the scan.
>
Yes. I use F-Prot on all my Windows machines. I've used it for years and
am very happy with it.

Malke
--
"I have a cunning plan..."

Cor · External Since: Jul 29, 2005 Posts: 1

If you use NTFS4DOS it wil.

"Richard Oliver" <R.Oliver DeleteThis @Spam.co.za> schreef in bericht
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> Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
> --Richard

Roger Wilco · External Since: Nov 26, 2004 Posts: 389

Sources I trust have mentioned here many times that F-Prot for DOS does
not work properly on XP irrespective of which file system one chooses
when installing XP. The OP should use F-Prot for Windows instead as
mentioned by another poster.
"Cor" <Doe.RemoveThis@maar.wat> wrote in message
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> If you use NTFS4DOS it wil.
>
>
> "Richard Oliver" <R.Oliver.RemoveThis@Spam.co.za> schreef in bericht
> news:rbthe15iq2nk0isfq0ikh2um2rjv4up0i8@4ax.com...
> > Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
> > --Richard
>
>

idbeholda · External Since: Jul 30, 2005 Posts: 24

Actually, it does. To bypass that little glitch, all you have to do is
manually type in the path that you want to scan, and enable recursive
scanning. I use F-Prot DOS on my machine all the time without too much
problem.
badgolferman wrote:
> Richard Oliver, 7/28/2005, 11:31:03 AM,
> <rbthe15iq2nk0isfq0ikh2um2rjv4up0i8.TakeThisOut@4ax.com> wrote:
>
> > Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
> > --Richard
>
> F-Prot for Windows will, F-Prot for DOS won't. At first it looks like
> it is, but it shuts down shortly into the scan.
>
> --
> "I miss. I miss. I miss. I make."
> Seve Ballesteros describing his four-putt at Augusta's No. 16 in 1988.

Zvi Netiv · External Since: May 01, 2005 Posts: 170

Malke <notreally.TakeThisOut@invalid.com> wrote:
> badgolferman wrote:
> > Richard Oliver, 7/28/2005, 11:31:03 AM,
> > <rbthe15iq2nk0isfq0ikh2um2rjv4up0i8.TakeThisOut@4ax.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
> >> --Richard
> >
> > F-Prot for Windows will, F-Prot for DOS won't. At first it looks like
> > it is, but it shuts down shortly into the scan.
> >
> Yes. I use F-Prot on all my Windows machines. I've used it for years and
> am very happy with it.

F-Prot for DOS shouldn't be relied upon when scanning under an NT based OS (NT /
W2K / XP), only when launched from DOS / Win 9x as it will skip directories,
regardless whether the file system is FAT32 or NTFS.

Regards, Zvi
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Zvi Netiv · External Since: May 01, 2005 Posts: 170

"Roger Wilco" <yesman RemoveThis @yourservice.invalid> wrote:

> Sources I trust have mentioned here many times that F-Prot for DOS does
> not work properly on XP irrespective of which file system one chooses
> when installing XP. The OP should use F-Prot for Windows instead as
> mentioned by another poster.

NTFS4DOS is a DOS driver, used to mount NTFS volumes *under DOS*. The governing
factor whether F-Prot will run properly on the platform is the OS, *not* the
target drive file system. As Frisk explained here, years ago, the problem is
with the DOS extender used.

Regards, Zvi

> "Cor" <Doe RemoveThis @maar.wat> wrote in message
> news:S6WdnQQX-JRDFHffRVnygg@casema.nl...
> > If you use NTFS4DOS it wil.
> >
> > "Richard Oliver" <R.Oliver RemoveThis @Spam.co.za> schreef in bericht
> > news:rbthe15iq2nk0isfq0ikh2um2rjv4up0i8@4ax.com...
> > > Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
> > > --Richard
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Roger Wilco · External Since: Nov 26, 2004 Posts: 389

"Zvi Netiv" <support.RemoveThis@replace_with_domain.com> wrote in message
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> "Roger Wilco" <yesman.RemoveThis@yourservice.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Sources I trust have mentioned here many times that F-Prot for DOS
does
> > not work properly on XP irrespective of which file system one
chooses
> > when installing XP. The OP should use F-Prot for Windows instead as
> > mentioned by another poster.
>
> NTFS4DOS is a DOS driver, used to mount NTFS volumes *under DOS*. The
governing
> factor whether F-Prot will run properly on the platform is the OS,
*not* the
> target drive file system. As Frisk explained here, years ago, the
problem is
> with the DOS extender used.

So, the answer to "Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??" is still no if
F-Prot for DOS and XP's DOS emulation are indicated? Using NTFS4DOS
indicates the user is not using XP's DOS emulator and so the "XP
platform" part of the question is not relevant to the answer "If you use
NTFS4DOS it wil". It's like answering "Linux" to the question "What is
the best AV". Smile

)

James Egan · External Since: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: 228

On 30 Jul 2005 11:38:42 -0700, idbeholda.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:

>Actually, it does.

Actually, It doesn't.

Jim.

* * Chas · External Since: Aug 27, 2005 Posts: 178

"James Egan" <jegan DeleteThis @jegan.com> wrote in message
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| On 30 Jul 2005 11:38:42 -0700, idbeholda DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
|
| >Actually, it does.
|
| Actually, It doesn't.
|
|
| Jim.
|

Actually, it does - from a DOS boot disk..... but it probably doesn't
scan correctly.

Roger Wilco · External Since: Nov 26, 2004 Posts: 389

"* * Chas" <dnafutz DeleteThis @aol.spam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "James Egan" <jegan DeleteThis @jegan.com> wrote in message
> news:v6pne1lsv06omdlvauqaqb0t2vnc84cqq3@4ax.com...
> | On 30 Jul 2005 11:38:42 -0700, idbeholda DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> |
> | >Actually, it does.
> |
> | Actually, It doesn't.
> |
> |
> | Jim.
> |
>
> Actually, it does - from a DOS boot disk..... but it probably doesn't
> scan correctly.

Actually it doesn't - a boot to DOS is no longer an "XP platform"
whereas a DOS window within XP would still be. Booting to DOS would not
support NTFS without the driver supplied by NTFS4DOS (for scanning) and
then you would need to pro version to affect any changes (write
capability).

Ghostown · External Since: Sep 10, 2005 Posts: 9

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Richard Oliver, 7/28/2005, 11:31:03 AM,
> <rbthe15iq2nk0isfq0ikh2um2rjv4up0i8.RemoveThis@4ax.com> wrote:
>
> > Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
> > --Richard
>
> F-Prot for Windows will, F-Prot for DOS won't. At first it looks like
> it is, but it shuts down shortly into the scan.

Im sorry to disagree with you, but this is not true. I have used FPROT for
DOS on many XP machines and never had a problem. You may have a problem on
your machine.

badgolferman · External Since: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 124

Ghostown, 7/30/2005, 10:21:27 PM, wrote:

>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0e5a6t09t1sa001@news.readfreenews.net...
> > Richard Oliver, 7/28/2005, 11:31:03 AM,
> > <rbthe15iq2nk0isfq0ikh2um2rjv4up0i8 DeleteThis @4ax.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??
> > > --Richard
> >
> > F-Prot for Windows will, F-Prot for DOS won't. At first it looks
> > like it is, but it shuts down shortly into the scan.
>
> Im sorry to disagree with you, but this is not true. I have used
> FPROT for DOS on many XP machines and never had a problem. You may
> have a problem on your machine.

Try it and watch the scan to see how it skips entire directory trees..
Read the results and see how few files have actually been scanned. Why
do you think Frisk does not list W2K and WXP as OSes F-Prot for DOS can
be used on?

--
"I miss. I miss. I miss. I make."
Seve Ballesteros describing his four-putt at Augusta's No. 16 in 1988.

Jafo · External Since: Mar 15, 2005 Posts: 43

As viewed from alt.comp.anti-virus, Ghostown wrote:

>"badgolferman" wrote...
>>Richard Oliver wrote:
>>>Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??

>>F-Prot for Windows will, F-Prot for DOS won't. At first it
>>looks like it is, but it shuts down shortly into the scan.
>
>Im sorry to disagree with you, but this is not true. I have
>used FPROT for DOS on many XP machines and never had a problem.
>You may have a problem on your machine.

Depends on whether the disk is FAT32 or NTFS.

--
Jafo

slartyb · External Since: Jan 17, 2005 Posts: 10

ok, i read all that so how about this:

Boot from ntfsdos floppies/then run f-prot for dos from a directory
on the hard drive.?

will this work PROPERLY?

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:22:06 -0400, "Roger Wilco"
<yesman.TakeThisOut@yourservice.invalid> wrote:

>
>"* * Chas" <dnafutz.TakeThisOut@aol.spam.com> wrote in message
>news:x62dnTVt9dzsZHbfRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
>>
>> "James Egan" <jegan.TakeThisOut@jegan.com> wrote in message
>> news:v6pne1lsv06omdlvauqaqb0t2vnc84cqq3@4ax.com...
>> | On 30 Jul 2005 11:38:42 -0700, idbeholda.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>> |
>> | >Actually, it does.
>> |
>> | Actually, It doesn't.
>> |
>> |
>> | Jim.
>> |
>>
>> Actually, it does - from a DOS boot disk..... but it probably doesn't
>> scan correctly.
>
>Actually it doesn't - a boot to DOS is no longer an "XP platform"
>whereas a DOS window within XP would still be. Booting to DOS would not
>support NTFS without the driver supplied by NTFS4DOS (for scanning) and
>then you would need to pro version to affect any changes (write
>capability).
>

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James Egan · External Since: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: 228

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:01:18 +0800, slartyb <slartyb DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Boot from ntfsdos floppies/then run f-prot for dos from a directory
>on the hard drive.?

So "Will F-Prot (for dos) run on an XP platform ?"

If you have to boot to another operating system, then the answer is
surely no.

Even if the xp machine has a fat32 filesystem it won't work properly
unless you boot to another operating system.

If you want to run f-prot from a command line, the windows version
contains fpcmd.exe to enable this and it works fine in a winxp dosbox

Jim.

James Egan · External Since: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: 228

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:21:27 GMT, "Ghostown" <none.TakeThisOut@thistime.com>
wrote:

>Im sorry to disagree with you, but this is not true. I have used FPROT for
>DOS on many XP machines and never had a problem. You may have a problem on
>your machine.
>

You are wrong. There was a time when I thought as you do. It looks
like it completes fully. However, you need to look very closely at how
many files are being scanned compared to how many you have.

Jim.

Zvi Netiv · External Since: May 01, 2005 Posts: 170

"Roger Wilco" <yesman.RemoveThis@yourservice.invalid> wrote:
> "Zvi Netiv" <support.RemoveThis@replace_with_domain.com> wrote in message
> > "Roger Wilco" <yesman.RemoveThis@yourservice.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Sources I trust have mentioned here many times that F-Prot for DOS does
> > > not work properly on XP irrespective of which file system one chooses
> > > when installing XP. The OP should use F-Prot for Windows instead as
> > > mentioned by another poster.
> >
> > NTFS4DOS is a DOS driver, used to mount NTFS volumes *under DOS*. The governing
> > factor whether F-Prot will run properly on the platform is the OS, *not* the
> > target drive file system. As Frisk explained here, years ago, the problem is
> > with the DOS extender used.
>
> So, the answer to "Will F-Prot run on an XP platform ??" is still no if
> F-Prot for DOS and XP's DOS emulation are indicated? Using NTFS4DOS
> indicates the user is not using XP's DOS emulator and so the "XP
> platform" part of the question is not relevant to the answer "If you use
> NTFS4DOS it wil". It's like answering "Linux" to the question "What is
> the best AV". Smile

)

Idiotic sophistry.

It depends on what you understand as an "XP platform". A PC with only XP
installed will be considered by most users as an XP platform, even when switched
off. Hence, not the running OS is what makes it a "platform", the installed
system does.

I stand by my statement.

Regards, Zvi
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James Egan · External Since: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: 228

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:51:01 +0300, Zvi Netiv
<support.TakeThisOut@replace_with_domain.com> wrote:

>Hence, not the running OS is what makes it a "platform", the installed
>system does.

I don't think many would agree with that.

Jim.