Avira a bit misleading

Quilljar · External Since: May 03, 2009 Posts: 3

I use Free Avira and so do my clients and several friends, but this week
two of them have told me that they have been asked by Avira to upgrade and
then asked for $39 . This has surpised us all ; and I would like to say
that if true, it is a worrying trend. I have no complaints about the
program, but it should not be a way of frightening unsophisticated users
into upgrading to the paid version.

--
Quilly

FredW · External Since: May 03, 2009 Posts: 12

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Larry Sabo · External Since: Sep 11, 2005 Posts: 37

"Quilljar" <Not RemoveThis @home.today> wrote:

>I use Free Avira and so do my clients and several friends, but this week
>two of them have told me that they have been asked by Avira to upgrade and
>then asked for $39 . This has surpised us all ; and I would like to say
>that if true, it is a worrying trend. I have no complaints about the
>program, but it should not be a way of frightening unsophisticated users
>into upgrading to the paid version.

I have clients who have had the same experience -- the Classic version
license has expired and cannot be renewed by replacing the license key
with a freshly downloaded one by thoroughly uninstalling (with Rev
Uninstaller) and re-installing AntiVir. I've had to switch to Avast in
those cases, or upgrade the client to Premium (which is still
excellent value). I, too, would be pleased to learn how to solve this
problem.

Larry

Lil' Abner · External Since: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 22

FredW <fredw.RemoveThis@blackholespam.net> wrote in
news:e789459bq9t4a14thrve1vucrgd441n077@4ax.com:

> http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm

In those instructions... for XP Home Edition...
In Safe Mode...
"# Go to C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic
\avnotify.exe
# Right-click avnotify.exe-> properties-> security-> advanced"
I have run across two computers now with XP Home that do not have a
security tab in the properties dialog in Safe Mode.
Also there doesn't seem to be any other administrative fixes that I can
find either in Safe or Normal mode. Anyone else ever run in to this?

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Larry Sabo · External Since: Sep 11, 2005 Posts: 37

"Lil' Abner" <blvstk.DeleteThis@dogpatch.com> wrote:

>FredW <fredw.DeleteThis@blackholespam.net> wrote in
>news:e789459bq9t4a14thrve1vucrgd441n077@4ax.com:
>
>> http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm
>
>In those instructions... for XP Home Edition...
>In Safe Mode...
>"# Go to C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic
>\avnotify.exe
># Right-click avnotify.exe-> properties-> security-> advanced"
>I have run across two computers now with XP Home that do not have a
>security tab in the properties dialog in Safe Mode.
>Also there doesn't seem to be any other administrative fixes that I can
>find either in Safe or Normal mode. Anyone else ever run in to this?

Did you try this part...

..: Disable the splash screen :.

1. Open regedit and navigate to
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
2. In the right pane double-click avgnt and add /nosplash at the
end of the path (ex. /min /nosplash). Avira changed /nosplash to /ns
for version 9.

I've had to use it for the reason you mention and I think it worked
(forget).

Larry

Lil' Abner · External Since: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 22

Larry Sabo <larry_sabo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
news:puva451663jmbb7boqti3b3f51agtr2t07@4ax.com:

> "Lil' Abner" <blvstk RemoveThis @dogpatch.com> wrote:
>
>>FredW <fredw RemoveThis @blackholespam.net> wrote in
>>news:e789459bq9t4a14thrve1vucrgd441n077@4ax.com:
>>
>>> http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm
>>
>>In those instructions... for XP Home Edition...
>>In Safe Mode...
>>"# Go to C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic
>>\avnotify.exe
>># Right-click avnotify.exe-> properties-> security-> advanced"
>>I have run across two computers now with XP Home that do not have a
>>security tab in the properties dialog in Safe Mode.
>>Also there doesn't seem to be any other administrative fixes that I can
>>find either in Safe or Normal mode. Anyone else ever run in to this?
>
> Did you try this part...
>
> .: Disable the splash screen :.
>
> 1. Open regedit and navigate to
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
> 2. In the right pane double-click avgnt and add /nosplash at the
> end of the path (ex. /min /nosplash). Avira changed /nosplash to /ns
> for version 9.
>
>
> I've had to use it for the reason you mention and I think it worked
> (forget).

Yep. I'd already done that part. It's the avnotify nag screen I'm trying to
get rid of. Home Edition requires booting in Safe Mode. In explorer if you
right click an exe file and then click on properties, there should be about
5 tabs, one of which is "security". However in the cases I mentioned the
tab was not there.

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Lil' Abner · External Since: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 22

"Lil' Abner" <blvstk.DeleteThis@dogpatch.com> wrote in
news:Xns9C36E3C65FC8Fbutter@wefb973cbe498:

> Larry Sabo <larry_sabo.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:puva451663jmbb7boqti3b3f51agtr2t07@4ax.com:
>
>> "Lil' Abner" <blvstk.DeleteThis@dogpatch.com> wrote:
>>
>>>FredW <fredw.DeleteThis@blackholespam.net> wrote in
>>>news:e789459bq9t4a14thrve1vucrgd441n077@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm
>>>
>>>In those instructions... for XP Home Edition...
>>>In Safe Mode...
>>>"# Go to C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic
>>>\avnotify.exe
>>># Right-click avnotify.exe-> properties-> security-> advanced"
>>>I have run across two computers now with XP Home that do not have a
>>>security tab in the properties dialog in Safe Mode.
>>>Also there doesn't seem to be any other administrative fixes that I
>>>can find either in Safe or Normal mode. Anyone else ever run in to
>>>this?
>>
>> Did you try this part...
>>
>> .: Disable the splash screen :.
>>
>> 1. Open regedit and navigate to
>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
>> 2. In the right pane double-click avgnt and add /nosplash at the
>> end of the path (ex. /min /nosplash). Avira changed /nosplash to /ns
>> for version 9.
>>
>>
>> I've had to use it for the reason you mention and I think it worked
>> (forget).
>
> Yep. I'd already done that part. It's the avnotify nag screen I'm
> trying to get rid of. Home Edition requires booting in Safe Mode. In
> explorer if you right click an exe file and then click on properties,
> there should be about 5 tabs, one of which is "security". However in
> the cases I mentioned the tab was not there.

I think I have figured out the security tab problem. This XP Home
installation is FAT32. I don't think the security tab is an option unless
the file system is NTFS.
This still doesn't help me figure out how to get rid of the nag screen
though.

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Francais · Joined: Jan 20, 2003 Posts: 209

One sure way of getting rid of any nag screen you might encounter is simply to purchase the Premium edition Laughing

It's well worth it!!!! Wink

FredW · External Since: May 03, 2009 Posts: 12

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David H. Lipman · External Since: Jul 04, 2003 Posts: 2116

From: "FredW" <fredw.RemoveThis@blackholespam.net>

| On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:30:01 -0500, "Lil' Abner" <blvstk.RemoveThis@dogpatch.com>
| wrote:
>>"Lil' Abner" <blvstk.RemoveThis@dogpatch.com> wrote in
>>news:Xns9C36E3C65FC8Fbutter@wefb973cbe498:
>>> Larry Sabo <larry_sabo.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:puva451663jmbb7boqti3b3f51agtr2t07@4ax.com:

>>> Yep. I'd already done that part. It's the avnotify nag screen I'm
>>> trying to get rid of. Home Edition requires booting in Safe Mode. In
>>> explorer if you right click an exe file and then click on properties,
>>> there should be about 5 tabs, one of which is "security". However in
>>> the cases I mentioned the tab was not there.

>>I think I have figured out the security tab problem. This XP Home
>>installation is FAT32. I don't think the security tab is an option unless
>>the file system is NTFS.
>>This still doesn't help me figure out how to get rid of the nag screen
>>though.

| When I used WindowsXP Home, I could also block the "avnotify" screen in
| my firewall (OnlineArmor Free).

| --
| Fred W. (NL)

I used SECPOL.MSC on WinXP Pro and restricted access to avnotify.exe
Then I exported the restriction from the Registry into a .REG file.
After I install Avira AntiVir free edition on a PC I just import the .REG file.

Seems to work on all versions of XP (Home, Pro, Media Edition) and may even also work on
Vista.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Something Weird · External Since: Jun 28, 2009 Posts: 2

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:CMOdndWKC4BFnNvXnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> From: "FredW" <fredw.RemoveThis@blackholespam.net>
>
>| On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:30:01 -0500, "Lil' Abner"
>| <blvstk.RemoveThis@dogpatch.com> wrote:
>>>"Lil' Abner" <blvstk.RemoveThis@dogpatch.com> wrote in
>>>news:Xns9C36E3C65FC8Fbutter@wefb973cbe498:
>>>> Larry Sabo <larry_sabo.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:puva451663jmbb7boqti3b3f51agtr2t07@4ax.com:
>
>>>> Yep. I'd already done that part. It's the avnotify nag
>>>> screen I'm trying to get rid of. Home Edition requires
>>>> booting in Safe Mode. In explorer if you right click an exe
>>>> file and then click on properties, there should be about 5
>>>> tabs, one of which is "security". However in the cases I
>>>> mentioned the tab was not there.
>
>>>I think I have figured out the security tab problem. This XP
>>>Home installation is FAT32. I don't think the security tab is
>>>an option unless the file system is NTFS.
>>>This still doesn't help me figure out how to get rid of the
>>>nag screen though.
>
>| When I used WindowsXP Home, I could also block the "avnotify"
>| screen in my firewall (OnlineArmor Free).
>
>| --
>| Fred W. (NL)
>
> I used SECPOL.MSC on WinXP Pro and restricted access to
> avnotify.exe Then I exported the restriction from the Registry
> into a .REG file.

Which reg key did you export?

After I install Avira AntiVir free edition
> on a PC I just import the .REG file.
>
> Seems to work on all versions of XP (Home, Pro, Media Edition)
> and may even also work on Vista.
>

David H. Lipman · External Since: Jul 04, 2003 Posts: 2116

From: "Something Weird" <somethingweird RemoveThis @invalid.invalid>

| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
| news:CMOdndWKC4BFnNvXnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com:

>> From: "FredW" <fredw RemoveThis @blackholespam.net>

>>| On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:30:01 -0500, "Lil' Abner"
>>| <blvstk RemoveThis @dogpatch.com> wrote:
>>>>"Lil' Abner" <blvstk RemoveThis @dogpatch.com> wrote in
>>>>news:Xns9C36E3C65FC8Fbutter@wefb973cbe498:
>>>>> Larry Sabo <larry_sabo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:puva451663jmbb7boqti3b3f51agtr2t07@4ax.com:

>>>>> Yep. I'd already done that part. It's the avnotify nag
>>>>> screen I'm trying to get rid of. Home Edition requires
>>>>> booting in Safe Mode. In explorer if you right click an exe
>>>>> file and then click on properties, there should be about 5
>>>>> tabs, one of which is "security". However in the cases I
>>>>> mentioned the tab was not there.

>>>>I think I have figured out the security tab problem. This XP
>>>>Home installation is FAT32. I don't think the security tab is
>>>>an option unless the file system is NTFS.
>>>>This still doesn't help me figure out how to get rid of the
>>>>nag screen though.

>>| When I used WindowsXP Home, I could also block the "avnotify"
>>| screen in my firewall (OnlineArmor Free).

>>| --
>>| Fred W. (NL)

>> I used SECPOL.MSC on WinXP Pro and restricted access to
>> avnotify.exe Then I exported the restriction from the Registry
>> into a .REG file.

| Which reg key did you export?

NOTE: The following will praobably wrap and needs to be saved unwrapped.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"avgnt"="\"C:\\Program Files\\Avira\\AntiVir Desktop\\avgnt.exe\" /min /nosplash"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\0\Paths]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\0\Paths\{878c836b-49b8-48f3-9509-bf3c0aaf1df6}]
"LastModified"=hex(b):a6,07,dd,1f,3f,c8,c9,01
"Description"=""
"SaferFlags"=dword:00000000
"ItemData"="C:\\Program Files\\Avira\\AntiVir Desktop\\avnotify.exe"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\0\Paths\{dda3f824-d8cb-441b-834d-be2efd2c1a33}]
"Description"=""
"SaferFlags"=dword:00000000
"ItemData"=hex(2):25,00,48,00,4b,00,45,00,59,00,5f,00,43,00,55,00,52,00,52,00,\
45,00,4e,00,54,00,5f,00,55,00,53,00,45,00,52,00,5c,00,53,00,6f,00,66,00,74,\
00,77,00,61,00,72,00,65,00,5c,00,4d,00,69,00,63,00,72,00,6f,00,73,00,6f,00,\
66,00,74,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,5c,00,43,00,75,\
00,72,00,72,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,56,00,65,00,72,00,73,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,\
5c,00,45,00,78,00,70,00,6c,00,6f,00,72,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,53,00,68,00,65,\
00,6c,00,6c,00,20,00,46,00,6f,00,6c,00,64,00,65,00,72,00,73,00,5c,00,43,00,\
61,00,63,00,68,00,65,00,25,00,4f,00,4c,00,4b,00,2a,00,00,00
"LastModified"=hex(b):07,55,27,b6,c5,af,c8,01

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Something Weird · External Since: Jun 28, 2009 Posts: 2

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:L6udnV5SK8UO4NrXnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> From: "Something Weird" <somethingweird RemoveThis @invalid.invalid>

>
>>> I used SECPOL.MSC on WinXP Pro and restricted access to
>>> avnotify.exe Then I exported the restriction from the
>>> Registry into a .REG file.
>
>| Which reg key did you export?
>
> NOTE: The following will praobably wrap and needs to be saved
> unwrapped.
>
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\R
> un] "avgnt"=""C:\\Program Files\\Avira\\AntiVir
> Desktop\\avgnt.exe" /min /nosplash"
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\C
> odeIdentifiers\0\Paths]
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\C
> odeIdentifiers\0\Paths\{878c836b-49b8-48f3-9509-bf3c0aaf1df6}]
> "LastModified"=hex(b):a6,07,dd,1f,3f,c8,c9,01
> "Description"=""
> "SaferFlags"=dword:00000000
> "ItemData"="C:\\Program Files\\Avira\\AntiVir
> Desktop\\avnotify.exe"
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\C
> odeIdentifiers\0\Paths\{dda3f824-d8cb-441b-834d-be2efd2c1a33}]
> "Description"=""
> "SaferFlags"=dword:00000000
> "ItemData"=hex(2):25,00,48,00,4b,00,45,00,59,00,5f,00,43,00,55,
> 00,52,00,52,00,\
> 45,00,4e,00,54,00,5f,00,55,00,53,00,45,00,52,00,5c,00,53,00,6
> f,00,66,00,74,\
> 00,77,00,61,00,72,00,65,00,5c,00,4d,00,69,00,63,00,72,00,6f,0
> 0,73,00,6f,00,\
> 66,00,74,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,5
> c,00,43,00,75,\
> 00,72,00,72,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,56,00,65,00,72,00,73,00,69,0
> 0,6f,00,6e,00,\
> 5c,00,45,00,78,00,70,00,6c,00,6f,00,72,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,5
> 3,00,68,00,65,\
> 00,6c,00,6c,00,20,00,46,00,6f,00,6c,00,64,00,65,00,72,00,73,0
> 0,5c,00,43,00,\
> 61,00,63,00,68,00,65,00,25,00,4f,00,4c,00,4b,00,2a,00,00,00
> "LastModified"=hex(b):07,55,27,b6,c5,af,c8,01

Thanks.

rjdriver · External Since: Aug 12, 2006 Posts: 6

"Larry Sabo" <larry_sabo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:15d945lsapcqotr206hamsfahmg28b73fm@4ax.com...
> "Quilljar" <Not.TakeThisOut@home.today> wrote:
>
>>I use Free Avira and so do my clients and several friends, but this week
>>two of them have told me that they have been asked by Avira to upgrade and
>>then asked for $39 . This has surpised us all ; and I would like to say
>>that if true, it is a worrying trend. I have no complaints about the
>>program, but it should not be a way of frightening unsophisticated users
>>into upgrading to the paid version.
>
> I have clients who have had the same experience -- the Classic version
> license has expired and cannot be renewed by replacing the license key
> with a freshly downloaded one by thoroughly uninstalling (with Rev
> Uninstaller) and re-installing AntiVir. I've had to switch to Avast in
> those cases, or upgrade the client to Premium (which is still
> excellent value). I, too, would be pleased to learn how to solve this
> problem.
>
> Larry

If you are referring to the nag screen shown at each definition update,
offering to sell the full product, I feel thats a very small inconvenience
(a single mouse click closes it) for what many consider the finest free
antivirus program available. If it's somehting else, I have never
experienced it in 2 years of using the program.

Bob

Larry Sabo · External Since: Sep 11, 2005 Posts: 37

"rjdriver" <rjdriversNOSPAM DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:

>
>"Larry Sabo" <larry_sabo DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:15d945lsapcqotr206hamsfahmg28b73fm@4ax.com...
>> "Quilljar" <Not DeleteThis @home.today> wrote:
>>
>>>I use Free Avira and so do my clients and several friends, but this week
>>>two of them have told me that they have been asked by Avira to upgrade and
>>>then asked for $39 . This has surpised us all ; and I would like to say
>>>that if true, it is a worrying trend. I have no complaints about the
>>>program, but it should not be a way of frightening unsophisticated users
>>>into upgrading to the paid version.
>>
>> I have clients who have had the same experience -- the Classic version
>> license has expired and cannot be renewed by replacing the license key
>> with a freshly downloaded one by thoroughly uninstalling (with Rev
>> Uninstaller) and re-installing AntiVir. I've had to switch to Avast in
>> those cases, or upgrade the client to Premium (which is still
>> excellent value). I, too, would be pleased to learn how to solve this
>> problem.
>>
>> Larry
>
>If you are referring to the nag screen shown at each definition update,
>offering to sell the full product, I feel thats a very small inconvenience
>(a single mouse click closes it) for what many consider the finest free
>antivirus program available. If it's somehting else, I have never
>experienced it in 2 years of using the program.
>
>
>Bob

Bob, I was not referring to the nag screen that accompanies definition
downloads. This was associated with the license for the program
expiring. I've seen it myself a couple of times and have heard of
others running into the same problem after a year's use.

Larry

rjdriver · External Since: Aug 12, 2006 Posts: 6

"Larry Sabo" <larry_sabo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j3vj451kpicch3i5rks7didjdi6l0ma7l7@4ax.com...
> "rjdriver" <rjdriversNOSPAM RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Larry Sabo" <larry_sabo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:15d945lsapcqotr206hamsfahmg28b73fm@4ax.com...
>>> "Quilljar" <Not RemoveThis @home.today> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I use Free Avira and so do my clients and several friends, but this
>>>>week
>>>>two of them have told me that they have been asked by Avira to upgrade
>>>>and
>>>>then asked for $39 . This has surpised us all ; and I would like to say
>>>>that if true, it is a worrying trend. I have no complaints about the
>>>>program, but it should not be a way of frightening unsophisticated
>>>>users
>>>>into upgrading to the paid version.
>>>
>>> I have clients who have had the same experience -- the Classic version
>>> license has expired and cannot be renewed by replacing the license key
>>> with a freshly downloaded one by thoroughly uninstalling (with Rev
>>> Uninstaller) and re-installing AntiVir. I've had to switch to Avast in
>>> those cases, or upgrade the client to Premium (which is still
>>> excellent value). I, too, would be pleased to learn how to solve this
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>
>>If you are referring to the nag screen shown at each definition update,
>>offering to sell the full product, I feel thats a very small inconvenience
>>(a single mouse click closes it) for what many consider the finest free
>>antivirus program available. If it's somehting else, I have never
>>experienced it in 2 years of using the program.
>>
>>
>>Bob
>
> Bob, I was not referring to the nag screen that accompanies definition
> downloads. This was associated with the license for the program
> expiring. I've seen it myself a couple of times and have heard of
> others running into the same problem after a year's use.
>
> Larry

Hmmm.....wonder why I have not encountered that in 2 years. Strange.

Bob