AV for old Win ME laptop

kermit · External Since: May 24, 2009 Posts: 1

I've got an old laptop I mainly use for downloads. It has AVG7 on it but
Grisoft has discontinued updates for that version. The newer version
doesn't run in Win ME. What free AV would be recommended for a Win ME
system? Thanks.

Buffalo · External Since: Jul 19, 2007 Posts: 12

kermit wrote:
> I've got an old laptop I mainly use for downloads. It has AVG7 on it
> but Grisoft has discontinued updates for that version. The newer
> version doesn't run in Win ME. What free AV would be recommended for
> a Win ME system? Thanks.
Avira for now.

FredW · External Since: May 03, 2009 Posts: 12

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Wolf K · External Since: Feb 05, 2009 Posts: 9

FredW wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:55:07 -0400, Virus Guy <Virus.DeleteThis@Guy.com> wrote:
>
>> kermit wrote:
>>
>>> I've got an old laptop I mainly use for downloads. What free AV
>>> would be recommended for a Win ME system? Thanks.
>> Norton AntiVirus 2002.
>
> +1
>
> At the moment I use NOD32 version 2.7
> http://www.eset.com/download/registered_software.php
>
> My PC with Windows XP has become "wonky".
> I am now using a PC with Windows98se (with NOD32 2.7),
> awaiting delivery of a new PC with the unavoidable Windows Vista.
>
> I hoped to be able to skip Vista and go directly to Windows 7,
> but unfortunately reality changed my planning.
> Wink

>

You can repartition the new machine, or add a second HD, and install
Win7 RC on a fresh partition. Make it your default boot OS. Etc.

cheers,

wolf k.

FredW · External Since: May 03, 2009 Posts: 12

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zzron357 · Joined: Oct 14, 2004 Posts: 43

Hi Kermit,
I too tried Avira, but they abandoned win9x also.
I am using Avast! from Alwil now for the oldies.
The gui is a bit awkward, but it seems to be
a good alternative. Avast! 4.8 free.
Best wishes, zzron
PS: Puppy Linux also a good way to go.
Puppy seems to have all the drivers.
I am struggling to install win98 in old Compaq laptop
but Compaq (HP) doesn't list the video or chipset drivers.
win98 3 days, Puppy, 1/2 hour install.

Digital News · External Since: Jun 04, 2009 Posts: 1

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:07:56 -0400, "Alexander Farquad"
<greatness RemoveThis @younameit.com> wrote:

>I have the Norton 2000 AV disk. Will that suffice or do I need an updater
>and what is torrent?
>Thank you.

What is a torrent: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=torrent

Virus Guy · External Since: Aug 05, 2005 Posts: 407

Wolf K wrote:

> Try this for NAV 2002 download:
>
> http://www.yu.edu/mis/nav/download_nav.htm

I don't think you'll find NAV 2002 on that page.

Virus Guy · External Since: Aug 05, 2005 Posts: 407

Alexander Farquad wrote:

> I have the Norton 2000 AV disk. Will that suffice or do I need an
> updater

No, don't bother with NAV 2000. The intelligent updater won't work with
it. And maybe not even for NAV 2001 either.

> and what is torrent?

Hmmmmmm....

Alexander Farquad · External Since: Jun 05, 2009 Posts: 3

"Virus Guy" <Virus.DeleteThis@Guy.com> wrote in message
news:4A28B193.5C3E7046@Guy.com...
> Alexander Farquad wrote:
>
> > I have the Norton 2000 AV disk. Will that suffice or do I need an
> > updater
>
> No, don't bother with NAV 2000. The intelligent updater won't work with
> it. And maybe not even for NAV 2001 either.
>
> > and what is torrent?
>
> Hmmmmmm....

And so, unlike Wolf, you're telling me that the NAV2000 disc is good for
nothing regarding Win Me?

Wolf K · External Since: Feb 05, 2009 Posts: 9

Alexander Farquad wrote:
[...]> wolf k.
>
> Thanks much for the download link and I'll do my best to remember to bottom
> post. I guess age is getting to me.
> Alex
>
>

You're welcome. Hope the download is satisfactory.

Age -- h'm, what's that? I forget... Wink

wolf k.

Alexander Farquad · External Since: Jun 05, 2009 Posts: 3

"Wolf K" <wekirch.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4a294b0e$0$5870$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
> Alexander Farquad wrote:
> [...]> wolf k.
> >
> > Thanks much for the download link and I'll do my best to remember to
bottom
> > post. I guess age is getting to me.
> > Alex
> >
> >
>
>
> You're welcome. Hope the download is satisfactory.
>
> Age -- h'm, what's that? I forget... Wink

>
> wolf k.

Wolf, does NAV2002 use up more RAM than does AVAST free home edition?

Wolf K · External Since: Feb 05, 2009 Posts: 9

Alexander Farquad wrote:
> "Wolf K" <wekirch.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4a294b0e$0$5870$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
>> Alexander Farquad wrote:
>> [...]> wolf k.
>>> Thanks much for the download link and I'll do my best to remember to
> bottom
>>> post. I guess age is getting to me.
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You're welcome. Hope the download is satisfactory.
>>
>> Age -- h'm, what's that? I forget... Wink

>>
>> wolf k.
>
> Wolf, does NAV2002 use up more RAM than does AVAST free home edition?
>
>

Don't know, I haven't used Win 9x since about 2001.

Anyhow, if you haven't already done so, stuff your machine with all the
RAM it will take. Then you won't have to worry about RAM usage. I
presume you have an older machine, so RAM may be hard to find for it.
Back then, I found that doubling the RAM improved Win9x's operation by
more than 100% - mostly, there was much less HD usage for page files.

Good luck.

wolf k.

Virus Guy · External Since: Aug 05, 2005 Posts: 407

Alexander Farquad wrote:

> Wolf, does NAV2002 use up more RAM than does AVAST free home edition?

Norton System Information tells me the following about these two loaded
processes:

nprotect.exe
- file size: 132 kb
- 2.96 mb (total memory usage?)
- 5 threads
- total module size: 2.91 mb
- total allocated memory: 46.6 kb
- total non-shared memory use: 311 kb

navapw32.exe
- file size: 74 kb
- 5.62 mb (total memory usage?)
- 7 threads
- total module size: 5.57 mb
- total allocated memory: 55.5 kb
- total non-shared memory use: 1.02 mb

cctask tells me these NAV modules are in use (no idea how much memory
they use):

apwcmd9x.dll (73 kb)
apwutil.dll (36 kb)
navproxy.dll (70 kb)
numisc.dll (45 kb)
s32krnll.dll (233 kb)
s32util.dll (126 kb)

This is with no obvious file scanning taking place. This is on a
win-98se system.

When I start the Norton SystemWorks 2002 front-end user-interface
(nmain.exe) SI tells me:

nmain.exe
- file size: 534 kb
- 21.7 mb (total memory usage?)
- 6 threads
- total module size: 20.0 mb
- total allocated memory: 1.75 kb
- total non-shared memory use: 9.71 kb

Nmain loads or calls 20 other norton/symantec dll's that I'm not going
to list. Their memory usage is included in the 20.0 mb module
allocation listed above.

Bottom line is that when NAV 2002 is running in the system tray, it's
using almost 10 mb of system memory. When the user interface is
running, it uses an additional 22 mb for a total of about 32 mb.