Text Type for display in other browsers

Billiam · External Since: Mar 04, 2009 Posts: 11

I have a Pub 2007 website which I am happy with in I.E., however, in Firefox
and Safari, the Header Arial Black text appears jagged...is there a font with
a better cross browser look?

Also, for best page loading time, roughly what size pagefile would you
recommend? For example, is 75 kb considered large for a page?

Thanks,

Billiam

Don Schmidt · External Since: Apr 21, 2007 Posts: 207

I wanted to use Black Chancery but most others wouldn't see it for they
wouldn't have it on their computers. My solution was create the Black
Chancery and then create an image of the text and place the text image on
the page; the same may be the solution for you.

--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA

"Billiam" <Billiam RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Pub 2007 website which I am happy with in I.E., however, in
>Firefox
> and Safari, the Header Arial Black text appears jagged...is there a font
> with
> a better cross browser look?
>
> Also, for best page loading time, roughly what size pagefile would you
> recommend? For example, is 75 kb considered large for a page?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Billiam

DavidF · External Since: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 3032

My guess is that your text has been converted to an image and that would
account for the 'jaggies'. Preview the page and try to left click, drag and
select the text. If you can't then it has been converted to an image. Or
better yet, Publish to the web and direct your site files to your computer
where you can find them, then open the .htm file with both IE and FireFox
and test. In some circumstances the text will be fine in IE but not in FF.
Also you can look in the index_files folder in thumbnail view. If the text
has been converted to an image you will be able to spot it as an image.

Arial Black is a web font so it should not be automatically converted to an
image like a non web font can be, so you need to look for a different
reason. As you can't provide a link to the site I can again only guess as to
why. If you are using a fill color in the text box remove it and see if that
helps. If you are using a fancy border, remove it and see if that helps. You
can try a different web font. Select the text > format > font and make sure
the option to 'Show only web fonts' is selected.

Size matters...but the main thing is to limit the use of images and make
sure they are compressed or optimized.

Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033

DavidF

"Billiam" <Billiam.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Pub 2007 website which I am happy with in I.E., however, in
>Firefox
> and Safari, the Header Arial Black text appears jagged...is there a font
> with
> a better cross browser look?
>
> Also, for best page loading time, roughly what size pagefile would you
> recommend? For example, is 75 kb considered large for a page?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Billiam

Goose · External Since: Oct 26, 2009 Posts: 2

On Oct 26, 6:15 am, "DavidF" <N... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> My guess is that your text has been converted to an image and that would
> account for the 'jaggies'. Preview the page and try to left click, drag and
> select the text. If you can't then it has been converted to an image. Or
> better yet, Publish to the web and direct your site files to your computer
> where you can find them, then open the .htm file with both IE and FireFox
> and test. In some circumstances the text will be fine in IE but not in FF..
> Also you can look in the index_files folder in thumbnail view. If the text
> has been converted to an image you will be able to spot it as an image.
>
> Arial Black is a web font so it should not be automatically converted to an
> image like a non web font can be, so you need to look for a different
> reason. As you can't provide a link to the site I can again only guess as to
> why. If you are using a fill color in the text box remove it and see if that
> helps. If you are using a fancy border, remove it and see if that helps. You
> can try a different web font. Select the text > format > font and make sure
> the option to 'Show only web fonts' is selected.
>
> Size matters...but the main thing is to limit the use of images and make
> sure they are compressed or optimized.
>
> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL1006...
>
> DavidF
>
> "Billiam" <Bill... DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> news:82759884-F79B-4F0A-9129-41FFCB8AACF1@microsoft.com...
>
>
>
> >I have a Pub 2007 website which I am happy with in I.E., however, in
> >Firefox
> > and Safari, the Header Arial Black text appears jagged...is there a font
> > with
> > a better cross browser look?
>
> > Also, for best page loading time, roughly what size pagefile would you
> > recommend? For example, is 75 kb considered large for a page?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Billiam- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Also, if the text is converted to a graphic, I don't think the words
will be recognized by search engines, if that consideration is
relevant to the site.

Goose

Spike · External Since: Feb 20, 2009 Posts: 44

Some food for thought

Since the advent of the new browsers I have been clearing the format and
using the font "Trebuchet MS" and am finding that the layout in Publisher
2007 and the presentation in IE 8 and others are about 95 to 99 percent the
same for the spacing and readability.

Spike

"DavidF" <Nope.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:#K3IgYjVKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> My guess is that your text has been converted to an image and that would
> account for the 'jaggies'. Preview the page and try to left click, drag
> and select the text. If you can't then it has been converted to an image.
> Or better yet, Publish to the web and direct your site files to your
> computer where you can find them, then open the .htm file with both IE and
> FireFox and test. In some circumstances the text will be fine in IE but
> not in FF. Also you can look in the index_files folder in thumbnail view.
> If the text has been converted to an image you will be able to spot it as
> an image.
>
> Arial Black is a web font so it should not be automatically converted to
> an image like a non web font can be, so you need to look for a different
> reason. As you can't provide a link to the site I can again only guess as
> to why. If you are using a fill color in the text box remove it and see if
> that helps. If you are using a fancy border, remove it and see if that
> helps. You can try a different web font. Select the text > format > font
> and make sure the option to 'Show only web fonts' is selected.
>
> Size matters...but the main thing is to limit the use of images and make
> sure they are compressed or optimized.
>
> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033
>
> DavidF
>
> "Billiam" <Billiam.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:82759884-F79B-4F0A-9129-41FFCB8AACF1@microsoft.com...
>>I have a Pub 2007 website which I am happy with in I.E., however, in
>>Firefox
>> and Safari, the Header Arial Black text appears jagged...is there a font
>> with
>> a better cross browser look?
>>
>> Also, for best page loading time, roughly what size pagefile would you
>> recommend? For example, is 75 kb considered large for a page?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Billiam
>
>

DavidF · External Since: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 3032

Good point. I think that should always be a concern, and in general you
should work to avoid your text being converted to an image. You can add an
ALT tag to an image but having text that the webbots can read is much
better.

DavidF

<snip>

Also, if the text is converted to a graphic, I don't think the words
will be recognized by search engines, if that consideration is
relevant to the site.

Goose

DavidF · External Since: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 3032

I will have to try it. I use primarily plain Arial and comic sans for some
titles on occasion...pretty boring but it seems to work.

DavidF

"Spike" <zero_spam RemoveThis @nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Some food for thought
>
> Since the advent of the new browsers I have been clearing the format and
> using the font "Trebuchet MS" and am finding that the layout in Publisher
> 2007 and the presentation in IE 8 and others are about 95 to 99 percent
> the same for the spacing and readability.
>
> Spike
>
>
>
> "DavidF" <Nope RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:#K3IgYjVKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> My guess is that your text has been converted to an image and that would
>> account for the 'jaggies'. Preview the page and try to left click, drag
>> and select the text. If you can't then it has been converted to an image.
>> Or better yet, Publish to the web and direct your site files to your
>> computer where you can find them, then open the .htm file with both IE
>> and FireFox and test. In some circumstances the text will be fine in IE
>> but not in FF. Also you can look in the index_files folder in thumbnail
>> view. If the text has been converted to an image you will be able to spot
>> it as an image.
>>
>> Arial Black is a web font so it should not be automatically converted to
>> an image like a non web font can be, so you need to look for a different
>> reason. As you can't provide a link to the site I can again only guess as
>> to why. If you are using a fill color in the text box remove it and see
>> if that helps. If you are using a fancy border, remove it and see if that
>> helps. You can try a different web font. Select the text > format > font
>> and make sure the option to 'Show only web fonts' is selected.
>>
>> Size matters...but the main thing is to limit the use of images and make
>> sure they are compressed or optimized.
>>
>> Reference: Compress Pictures dialog box (2007):
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA100363901033.aspx?pid=CL100605171033
>>
>> DavidF
>>
>> "Billiam" <Billiam RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:82759884-F79B-4F0A-9129-41FFCB8AACF1@microsoft.com...
>>>I have a Pub 2007 website which I am happy with in I.E., however, in
>>>Firefox
>>> and Safari, the Header Arial Black text appears jagged...is there a font
>>> with
>>> a better cross browser look?
>>>
>>> Also, for best page loading time, roughly what size pagefile would you
>>> recommend? For example, is 75 kb considered large for a page?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Billiam
>>
>>