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engineerinva63
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts?
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I want to change the spacing on the handout master so that the slides are
closer together. Is there any way to change this?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: RE: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Not within Powerpoint

You could use send to > word and reorganise but its a pain

If you are prepared to spend $40 then Shyam's Hand Out Wizard is a good bet
http://skp.mvps.org/how/
There's a fully functioning free trial.
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"engineerinva63" wrote:

> I want to change the spacing on the handout master so that the slides are
> closer together. Is there any way to change this?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: RE: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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That's what I needed to know--Thanks!

"John Wilson" wrote:

> Not within Powerpoint
>
> You could use send to > word and reorganise but its a pain
>
> If you are prepared to spend $40 then Shyam's Hand Out Wizard is a good bet
> http://skp.mvps.org/how/
> There's a fully functioning free trial.
> --
> email john AT technologytrish.co.uk
>
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> "engineerinva63" wrote:
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> > I want to change the spacing on the handout master so that the slides are
> > closer together. Is there any way to change this?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The number of slides is irrelevant. When printing 2 slides per page, I don't
need an inch of border in between them. Being able to adjust the margins and
spacing between cells would be a practical upgrade.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Re: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Google HandOut Wizard. It allows you to custom build your handouts.

Bill Dilworth

"Greg" wrote in message

> The number of slides is irrelevant. When printing 2 slides per page, I
> don't
> need an inch of border in between them. Being able to adjust the margins
> and
> spacing between cells would be a practical upgrade.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: RE: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I second to Greg. The huge marginals in the print layout are really
irritating no matter how many slides per page. I'm looking forward to a
user-friendly solution.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Krisy,

Did you look at Handout Wizard? Allows you to set the margins and placement
of the slides on a page.

Bill Dilworth

"Krisy" wrote in message

>I second to Greg. The huge marginals in the print layout are really
> irritating no matter how many slides per page. I'm looking forward to a
> user-friendly solution.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I'm sorry, but this is a prime example of how out of touch Microsoft really
is. Yes, you can print 9 slides per page, but you would actually be able to
READ those 9 slides if there wasn't so much unnecessary empty space between
them. I get a page allowance at my school, and having to use twice as many
pages just to be able to read the slides is annoying. I could probably fit
6-8 slides on a page if they were the same size as what comes out on a
4-per-page handout, given that the extra space could be eliminated, but
there's no way to do that.

"Michael Koerner" wrote:

> You can print up to 9 slides per page when printing to handouts. Isn't that
> enough? The only other option is to use the send to Word option and
> manipulate the tables once in Word.
>
> --
> Michael Koerner
> MS MVP - PowerPoint
>
>
> "Dr.Danger" wrote in message
>
> Microsoft office team,
> Being able to change the slide spacing really needs to be included in
> PowerPoint. You could promote it as an eco-friendly move. People could print
> more slides per page without the text becoming too small, thus saving paper.
> I am not sure why there needs to be so much white space between slides
> anyway.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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It would be ideal not to have to pay $40 for such a simple task

"Bill Dilworth" wrote:

> Hi Krisy,
>
> Did you look at Handout Wizard? Allows you to set the margins and placement
> of the slides on a page.
>
> Bill Dilworth
>
> "Krisy" wrote in message
>
> >I second to Greg. The huge marginals in the print layout are really
> > irritating no matter how many slides per page. I'm looking forward to a
> > user-friendly solution.
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Have you tried 'send to word'? That gives you a great deal more control -
but unfortunately a humungous file often. Or Bill's add-in:
http://billdilworth.mvps.org/SlideIntoWord.htm

Lucy

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"Nick" wrote in message

> I'm sorry, but this is a prime example of how out of touch Microsoft
> really
> is. Yes, you can print 9 slides per page, but you would actually be able
> to
> READ those 9 slides if there wasn't so much unnecessary empty space
> between
> them. I get a page allowance at my school, and having to use twice as
> many
> pages just to be able to read the slides is annoying. I could probably
> fit
> 6-8 slides on a page if they were the same size as what comes out on a
> 4-per-page handout, given that the extra space could be eliminated, but
> there's no way to do that.
>
> "Michael Koerner" wrote:
>
>> You can print up to 9 slides per page when printing to handouts. Isn't
>> that
>> enough? The only other option is to use the send to Word option and
>> manipulate the tables once in Word.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Koerner
>> MS MVP - PowerPoint
>>
>>
>> "Dr.Danger" wrote in message
>>
>> Microsoft office team,
>> Being able to change the slide spacing really needs to be included in
>> PowerPoint. You could promote it as an eco-friendly move. People could
>> print
>> more slides per page without the text becoming too small, thus saving
>> paper.
>> I am not sure why there needs to be so much white space between slides
>> anyway.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Bill Dilworth
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Nick,

Agreed, from one perspective, spending $40 for a seemingly simple task seems
to be unreasonable. Especially when you could learn to write that code
yourself. There are lots of free things on the web, why isn't everything?

But from another perspective, spending $40 is reasonable when you consider
how many hours it will take you to learn how to code this yourself. Is your
time worth more than $0.50 and hour? I doubt most people could learn that
level of coding in just 80 hours. From this perspective, it is a value.

So, how badly do you want/need the thing the add-in does? Is it worth 80
hours of your time or $40? If so, build it or buy it.

Alternately, if you do not think it is worth either, try to convince someone
to build it for you for free. When you find that person, let me know; I
have a few hundred projects I want them to do for me too.

Bill Dilworth


"Nick" wrote in message

> It would be ideal not to have to pay $40 for such a simple task
>
> "Bill Dilworth" wrote:
>
>> Hi Krisy,
>>
>> Did you look at Handout Wizard? Allows you to set the margins and
>> placement
>> of the slides on a page.
>>
>> Bill Dilworth
>>
>> "Krisy" wrote in message
>>
>> >I second to Greg. The huge marginals in the print layout are really
>> > irritating no matter how many slides per page. I'm looking forward to a
>> > user-friendly solution.
>>
>>
>>
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dear Michael,

Please have the courtesy to respond to the actual question posed.

The issue is that there is a huge waste of space on each page, due to
ridiculously large margins between the slides. There must be a simple way to
add in the feature to reduce the white space between slides. Printing 9 per
page is useless if the print is too small to read.

My organization has over 6280 persons, most of whom develop several
PowerPoint presentations each year. We deliver thousands of training and
information world-wide, often in very poor countries with limited resources.

It would allow for a tremendous reduction in pages printed (saving money,
time, ink, paper, and the environment) if we could print 9 READABLE slides
per page. And we are one of tens of thousands of Universities, research
institutions, training institutions, etc.; who each day print literally
millions of pages of slide handouts at 2 or 4 slides per page, because they
cannot maximise the size of slides so that the image is readable when
printing 6 or 9 slides per page.
So, how about responding to a corporate customer who has bothered to upgrade
to MS Office 2007, and actually respond to our request?

The MS 2007 Office roll-out was a disastrous and horribly costly experience:
huge loss of productivity and thousands of wasted hours in retraining staff!
We operate, as a global non-profit, in every country in the world. With the
huge scale of on-going expense from that conversion to 2007, the least we
should be able to expect is some help in reducing unnecessary waste and
needless costs, by having a simple upgrade to allow customizable re-sizing of
margins and slide size on notes handout.

Yours,
Tom


"Michael Koerner" wrote:

> You can print up to 9 slides per page when printing to handouts. Isn't that
> enough? The only other option is to use the send to Word option and
> manipulate the tables once in Word.
>
> --
> Michael Koerner
> MS MVP - PowerPoint
>
>
> "Dr.Danger" wrote in message
>
> Microsoft office team,
> Being able to change the slide spacing really needs to be included in
> PowerPoint. You could promote it as an eco-friendly move. People could print
> more slides per page without the text becoming too small, thus saving paper.
> I am not sure why there needs to be so much white space between slides
> anyway.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Just to let you know that we are all volunteers here and have no direct
input to Microsoft's planning strategies for program design.

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MS MVP - PowerPoint


"Tom22" wrote in message

Dear Michael,

Please have the courtesy to respond to the actual question posed.

The issue is that there is a huge waste of space on each page, due to
ridiculously large margins between the slides. There must be a simple way to
add in the feature to reduce the white space between slides. Printing 9 per
page is useless if the print is too small to read.

My organization has over 6280 persons, most of whom develop several
PowerPoint presentations each year. We deliver thousands of training and
information world-wide, often in very poor countries with limited resources.

It would allow for a tremendous reduction in pages printed (saving money,
time, ink, paper, and the environment) if we could print 9 READABLE slides
per page. And we are one of tens of thousands of Universities, research
institutions, training institutions, etc.; who each day print literally
millions of pages of slide handouts at 2 or 4 slides per page, because they
cannot maximise the size of slides so that the image is readable when
printing 6 or 9 slides per page.
So, how about responding to a corporate customer who has bothered to upgrade
to MS Office 2007, and actually respond to our request?

The MS 2007 Office roll-out was a disastrous and horribly costly experience:
huge loss of productivity and thousands of wasted hours in retraining staff!
We operate, as a global non-profit, in every country in the world. With the
huge scale of on-going expense from that conversion to 2007, the least we
should be able to expect is some help in reducing unnecessary waste and
needless costs, by having a simple upgrade to allow customizable re-sizing
of
margins and slide size on notes handout.

Yours,
Tom


"Michael Koerner" wrote:

> You can print up to 9 slides per page when printing to handouts. Isn't
> that
> enough? The only other option is to use the send to Word option and
> manipulate the tables once in Word.
>
> --
> Michael Koerner
> MS MVP - PowerPoint
>
>
> "Dr.Danger" wrote in message
>
> Microsoft office team,
> Being able to change the slide spacing really needs to be included in
> PowerPoint. You could promote it as an eco-friendly move. People could
> print
> more slides per page without the text becoming too small, thus saving
> paper.
> I am not sure why there needs to be so much white space between slides
> anyway.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> The issue is that there is a huge waste of space on each page, due to
> ridiculously large margins between the slides. There must be a simple way to
> add in the feature to reduce the white space between slides. Printing 9 per
> page is useless if the print is too small to read.

Your point is well-taken and it's a well-known problem going back many versions.
Why MS has never improved the handouts feature is a mystery.

But there's no simple way to change the way it works, unless you have a printer
whose driver supports "n-up" printing (ie, printing multiple pages per sheet).
Many do nowadays.

My HP laser printer, for example, has a Finishing tab in the printer properties
dialog box. I can choose anything from 1 to 16 pages per sheet there. If I then
print slides, they'll be considerably larger, with less wasted space, than if I
printed the same number of slides per page via PPT's handout feature.

Another approach would be to use Shyam Pillai's Handout Wizard.
http://skp.mvps.org/how/


> So, how about responding to a corporate customer who has bothered to upgrade
> to MS Office 2007, and actually respond to our request?

As Michael points out, we're volunteers here. As a corporate customer, you
probably have a lot more pull with MS than we do. If you have a means of
contacting them for support, I'd definitely do that.


> > "Dr.Danger" wrote in message
> >
> > Microsoft office team,
> > Being able to change the slide spacing really needs to be included in
> > PowerPoint. You could promote it as an eco-friendly move. People could print
> > more slides per page without the text becoming too small, thus saving paper.
> > I am not sure why there needs to be so much white space between slides
> > anyway.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: RE: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Save your powerpoint as a PDF file then open it in Adobe Reader and print
from there. Go to print and under page scaling - put multiple pages to sheet
and the number of pages you want to print then in the print settings click
landscape or portrait

"engineerinva63" wrote:

> I want to change the spacing on the handout master so that the slides are
> closer together. Is there any way to change this?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I agree with several others on this thread. PowerPoint is a Microsoft
product, and they should be the ones fixing the problem. We shouldn't have
to use (and pay for!) a third party product, after already shelling out big
bucks for the presentation software.

It's a simple issue; instead of useless 1" margins, let me use my printer's
default of 1/8" margins, and get bigger slides.

I'm beginning to think the guys at Microsoft never look over their cubicle
walls to see what's happening with the rest of Office. You can set margins
in Word and Excel, how hard would it be to get the code from those techies
and put it in PowerPoint??
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"Bill Dilworth" wrote:

> Did you look at Handout Wizard? Allows you to set the margins and placement
> of the slides on a page.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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i agree. if you can print 9 slides per page when printing handouts. why can't
you save the 9-slides per page handout in word as well?
like the earlier message said, it can be done but its tedious.
angas! thanks!

"Michael Koerner" wrote:

> You can print up to 9 slides per page when printing to handouts. Isn't that
> enough? The only other option is to use the send to Word option and
> manipulate the tables once in Word.
>
> --
> Michael Koerner
> MS MVP - PowerPoint
>
>
> "Dr.Danger" wrote in message
>
> Microsoft office team,
> Being able to change the slide spacing really needs to be included in
> PowerPoint. You could promote it as an eco-friendly move. People could print
> more slides per page without the text becoming too small, thus saving paper.
> I am not sure why there needs to be so much white space between slides
> anyway.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: How do I change the spacing between the slides on the handouts [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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One thing you can do is to save the powerpoint file in pdf format. There
in acrobat you can print multiple slides on one page with slimmer
margins between slides.
To save powerpoint in pdf (*if you are using Office 2007*) download and
install the add-in from the site
http://tinyurl.com/yqpa7b

Steve Rindsberg;458120 Wrote:
>
> > The issue is that there is a huge waste of space on each page, due
> to
> > ridiculously large margins between the slides. There must be a simple
> way to
> > add in the feature to reduce the white space between slides. Printing
> 9 per
> > page is useless if the print is too small to read.
>
> Your point is well-taken and it's a well-known problem going back many
> versions.
> Why MS has never improved the handouts feature is a mystery.
>
> But there's no simple way to change the way it works, unless you have a
> printer
> whose driver supports "n-up" printing (ie, printing multiple pages per
> sheet).
> Many do nowadays.
>
> My HP laser printer, for example, has a Finishing tab in the printer
> properties
> dialog box. I can choose anything from 1 to 16 pages per sheet there.
> If I then
> print slides, they'll be considerably larger, with less wasted space,
> than if I
> printed the same number of slides per page via PPT's handout feature.
>
> Another approach would be to use Shyam Pillai's Handout Wizard.
> 'Welcome to the Handout Wizard home page' (http://skp.mvps.org/how/)
>
>
> > So, how about responding to a corporate customer who has bothered to
> upgrade
> > to MS Office 2007, and actually respond to our request?
>
> As Michael points out, we're volunteers here. As a corporate customer,
> you
> probably have a lot more pull with MS than we do. If you have a means
> of
> contacting them for support, I'd definitely do that.
>
>
> > > "Dr.Danger" wrote in message
> > >
> > > Microsoft office team,
> > > Being able to change the slide spacing really needs to be included
> in
> > > PowerPoint. You could promote it as an eco-friendly move. People
> could print
> > > more slides per page without the text becoming too small, thus
> saving paper.
> > > I am not sure why there needs to be so much white space between
> slides
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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not sure how to find "WIZARD";
Handout Master allows you to add/delete/resize header & footer, but not
change size of slides (2 per page).

"Bill Dilworth" wrote:

> Google HandOut Wizard. It allows you to custom build your handouts.
>
> Bill Dilworth
>
> "Greg" wrote in message
>
> > The number of slides is irrelevant. When printing 2 slides per page, I
> > don't
> > need an inch of border in between them. Being able to adjust the margins
> > and
> > spacing between cells would be a practical upgrade.
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Spacing still too wide [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Go to http://www.google.com

In the search box there, type

handout wizard

Press Enter.

In article , USoft
frustrated wrote:
> not sure how to find "WIZARD";
> Handout Master allows you to add/delete/resize header & footer, but not
> change size of slides (2 per page).
>
> "Bill Dilworth" wrote:
>
> > Google HandOut Wizard. It allows you to custom build your handouts.
> >
> > Bill Dilworth
> >
> > "Greg" wrote in message
> >
> > > The number of slides is irrelevant. When printing 2 slides per page, I
> > > don't
> > > need an inch of border in between them. Being able to adjust the margins
> > > and
> > > spacing between cells would be a practical upgrade.
> >
> >
> >


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