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doquan0
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Word 2007 can't group pictures, shapes and textbox together
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English is not my first language, please sympathize if there is any fault.
I created some shapes, textbox, WordArt and insert a picture. I saved this
document as A.docx (Word 2007) and B.doc (Word 97-2003). When I open A.docx,
I cant' groups these objects together. But with B.doc, I can do it easily.
How can solve this problem
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Rae Drysdale
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: RE: Word 2007 can't group pictures, shapes and textbox together [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Go to the Home tab and on the extreme right click on Editing. Here you can
select all, or probably what you are looking for is the select objects so
that you can marquee what you want. You can still click on an object and add
to your selection by holding down the shift key and clicking on additional
objects. Hope this helps.
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"doquan0" wrote:

> English is not my first language, please sympathize if there is any fault.
> I created some shapes, textbox, WordArt and insert a picture. I saved this
> document as A.docx (Word 2007) and B.doc (Word 97-2003). When I open A.docx,
> I cant' groups these objects together. But with B.doc, I can do it easily.
> How can solve this problem
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: Word 2007 can't group pictures, shapes and textbox together [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Doquan0,

If all of the shapes, Wordart and pictures in your Word 2007 document already have a text wrapping choice of other than 'inline with
text', and you're still getting a 'lead bell' ding sound when trying to group the items, my guess would be that it is likely picture
(via Insert=>Picture from File),
that may be the point of frustration.

In 'old' Word versions (or instant 'Classic' as MS calls the last version before this one <g>) the graphics/pictures and shapes from
the MS Drawing Objects engine were managed within Word's capabilities. For Office 2007 there was a new graphic engine created and,
unfortunately for us, it was only partially implemented in Word 2007 (for example Word doesn't have 'new' WordArt, only classic
while Excel and Powerpoint have new WordArt <g>).

Because of that partial implementation, the inserted pictures and SmartArt are managed by the new Office graphics engine, while the
inserted shapes and shape handling is still managed in Word. The basic result is that Word's 'classic' grouping and multiple
object selection tool don't 'see' the inserted pictures to allow you to group them with the shapes. If you select a picture that
you inserted and right click, copy then on the Home tab look at the Paste Special Dropdown the graphic type is
"Microsoft Office Graphics Object", rather than the Word classic
"MS Office Drawing Object".

When you save in 'compatability' mode (.doc) the pictures are reset to 'classic' types, but if you then upvert (save as the new file
formats) the pictures will tend to break away from the grouping.

Basically, if an item has white pearl sizing handles (new graphics object) it usually can't be directly grouped with an item that
has flat square sizing handles (old/classic graphics engine object).

There are several workarounds (and hopefully one of the folks here who still program <g> will find a macro solution to this as
well). Here are some you may want to consider. The workarounds give the 'new items' the appearance to Word of being 'classic'
objects.

1. Work in 'compatability mode' (i.e. save in Word .doc format). Lets you work as before, but turns off some of the newer features
in Word 2007.

2. Work within a Word drawing Canvas:

Use Insert=>Shapes=>New Drawing Canvas (at the bottom of the shapes dialog) and Insert all of your items to group into the canvas.
A canvas automatically groups/contains the pictures and shapes within a single frame and within the canvas you can selectively have
subgroups. Separately, a canvas can be grouped with drawing items outside of the canvas.

3. Revert to 'classic' by extracting items from a drawing canvas.

A variation of item 2 allows you to move items out of a drawing canvas back into Word's "regular" area where they can be handled as
Word 'classic' objects, even in .docx files.

While in the drawing canvas created in 2., above, after applying shadows, styles, etc to the items, use the shift key and click on,
for example an inserted picture and a shape, right click and group them.

4. Use a textbox shape to hold the inserted picture.

Use Insert=>Textbox=>Draw a Textbox (bottom of the gallery), then inside the text box use Insert=>Picture or double click the
textbox and use Textbox Tools=>Format=>Shape Fill=>Picture.
(If you use Insert=>Picture you can apply the Word 2007 picture tool effects to the graphic that is in the text box. You can

I hope that I didn't confuse things too much for you Smile

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English is not my first language, please sympathize if there is any fault.
I created some shapes, textbox, WordArt and insert a picture. I saved this
document as A.docx (Word 2007) and B.doc (Word 97-2003). When I open A.docx,
I cant' groups these objects together. But with B.doc, I can do it easily.
How can solve this problem>>
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MS Office System Products MVP

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Cindy M.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2007 can't group pictures, shapes and textbox together [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi =?Utf-8?B?ZG9xdWFuMA==?=,

> English is not my first language, please sympathize if there is any fault.
> I created some shapes, textbox, WordArt and insert a picture. I saved this
> document as A.docx (Word 2007) and B.doc (Word 97-2003). When I open A.docx,
> I cant' groups these objects together. But with B.doc, I can do it easily.
> How can solve this problem
>
The problem you're seeing is due to Word 2007 having a mix of the old graphics
technology and the new "Escher" graphics introduced in Office 2007. The two
can't mix; there's no way to group the new (Clipart, Smartart for example) with
the old (AutoShapes, WordArt).

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Cindy M.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2007 can't group pictures, shapes and textbox together [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Bob,

> Because of that partial implementation, the inserted pictures and SmartArt are managed by the new Office graphics engine, while the
> inserted shapes and shape handling is still managed in Word.
>
However, you can still "group" an inserted picture with other "old Word" things by puttin ghtem all in a Drawing Canvas.

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Bob Buckland ?:-)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2007 can't group pictures, shapes and textbox together [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Cindy,

Yes, that was mentioned as workaround #2 in my previous message <g>.

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However, you can still "group" an inserted picture with other "old Word" things by puttin ghtem all in a Drawing Canvas.

Cindy Meister <<

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Cindy M.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Word 2007 can't group pictures, shapes and textbox together [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Bob,

> Yes, that was mentioned as workaround #2 in my previous message <g>.
>
Sorry, didn't get that far with my conscious mind Smile

Cindy Meister
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BillieKP



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Grouping in Word 2007 [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Thanks, Bob, for putting me on track to solve the frustrating problem of not being able to group pictures with text boxes and AutoShapes in Word 2007 as I was able to do in earlier versions of Word. I tried several of your solutions and finally came up with an easy method:

Select the Insert tab, select Shapes, and click on New Drawing Canvas (as you suggested). Insert the picture into the Drawing Canvas. Drag the picture out of the Drawing Canvas, and delete the Drawing Canvas.

Insert text boxes and shapes as desired (no Drawing Canvas necessary). Now I was able to select all objects, right-click on them, and select Group as previously done in Word 2003 and 2002.

BillieKP
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sdavisnature



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Pictures won't group with other pictures. They jump around [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Wow! Thanks Bob for solving a VERY frustrating problem for me. All I was trying to do was place four photos on a page in Word 2007 and every time I moved one, it would jump or fly off to some other place on the page. Two hours later, I was about to throw Word 2007 out the window.

Saving it in "compatiblity mode" did the trick! Now I can put pictures exactly where I want them on the page and they don't jump or fly off to some other place a quarter of an inch (or more) away from where I want them.

They have got to fix this problem for Word 2007 users.

Thanks again!
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