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Craig
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Since: Sep 16, 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US)
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I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US) from the
Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a link to a
Microsoft article that states this to be true.

I have been on the following site which states "You can't get rid of the
English(US) spell-checker" http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx

We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words like
"realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".

I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office Tools\Microsoft Office
2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to English
(Australia)

Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia), Keyboard US

In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English (Australia) and
English (US) appear.

To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be removed.

Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting certain files ?

Cheers
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Cindy M -WordMVP-
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi =?Utf-8?B?Q3JhaWc=?=,

> To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
> Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be removed.
>
All languages are "bundled" into the same dictionary (*.lex file), the
exception being Australian: MSSP3ENA.LEX

So I don't think you'll find a site that will tell you this. However, there's
no way to explicitly uninstall one "flavor" of any language. But you have to
realize that even if you could uninstall US English, that wouldn't
necessarily prevent it from appearing in a Word document. Just copying text
from a website can bring it in. And the user can apply language formatting
for any language, whether it's installed or enabled on the system or not.

The only thing uninstalling or disabling a language will do is to make sure
Word won't try to run spell check on it. Period.

For more background on how Word handles language formatting, you'll find an
article on the Tips page on my website. If you follow those directions you
should be able to prevent US English from showing up by default in new
documents created from "clean" templates. But there's no way to guarantee
that it would be brought in from another source (copy/paste).

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Doug Potter [MSFT]
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary. So you
may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize it.

Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.

--
Doug
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"Craig" <Craig.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2B3A6DB9-0763-40F2-A055-C148A560FDF2@microsoft.com...
>I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US) from the
> Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a link to a
> Microsoft article that states this to be true.
>
> I have been on the following site which states "You can't get rid of the
> English(US) spell-checker" http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx
>
> We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words like
> "realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".
>
> I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
> Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office Tools\Microsoft
> Office
> 2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to English
> (Australia)
>
> Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia), Keyboard US
>
> In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English (Australia) and
> English (US) appear.
>
> To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
> Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be
> removed.
>
> Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting certain files
> ?
>
> Cheers
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Craig
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Doug

Is there any site, either Microsoft or other, that states that Australian
spellcheck does accept "ize" ? Or that when clicking Tools, Language, Set
Language - both Aus and US are listed and there is no way to only have Aus
displayed ?

Cheers

"Doug Potter [MSFT]" wrote:

> For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary. So you
> may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize it.
>
> Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
> putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
>
> --
> Doug
> __
> The Legal Guys make me say:
> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
> newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>
> "Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2B3A6DB9-0763-40F2-A055-C148A560FDF2@microsoft.com...
> >I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US) from the
> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a link to a
> > Microsoft article that states this to be true.
> >
> > I have been on the following site which states "You can't get rid of the
> > English(US) spell-checker" http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx
> >
> > We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words like
> > "realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".
> >
> > I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
> > Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office Tools\Microsoft
> > Office
> > 2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to English
> > (Australia)
> >
> > Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia), Keyboard US
> >
> > In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English (Australia) and
> > English (US) appear.
> >
> > To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be
> > removed.
> >
> > Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting certain files
> > ?
> >
> > Cheers
>
>
>
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Doug Robbins
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

As Doug Potter, who works for Microsoft, suggested, the way to achieve this
is to put the words ending in "ize" into the exclude dictionary so that
spelling will not be accepted.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:065AA455-5252-4A50-A1E6-0C426DC1F3C9@microsoft.com...
> Doug
>
> Is there any site, either Microsoft or other, that states that Australian
> spellcheck does accept "ize" ? Or that when clicking Tools, Language, Set
> Language - both Aus and US are listed and there is no way to only have Aus
> displayed ?
>
> Cheers
>
> "Doug Potter [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary. So
>> you
>> may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize
>> it.
>>
>> Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
>> putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
>>
>> --
>> Doug
>> __
>> The Legal Guys make me say:
>> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
>> newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>> warranties, and confers no rights.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2B3A6DB9-0763-40F2-A055-C148A560FDF2@microsoft.com...
>> >I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US) from the
>> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a link
>> > to a
>> > Microsoft article that states this to be true.
>> >
>> > I have been on the following site which states "You can't get rid of
>> > the
>> > English(US) spell-checker"
>> > http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx
>> >
>> > We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words like
>> > "realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".
>> >
>> > I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
>> > Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office Tools\Microsoft
>> > Office
>> > 2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to English
>> > (Australia)
>> >
>> > Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia), Keyboard US
>> >
>> > In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English (Australia) and
>> > English (US) appear.
>> >
>> > To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
>> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be
>> > removed.
>> >
>> > Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting certain
>> > files
>> > ?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>>
>>
>>
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Doug

I have done this and it works well enough. I would prefer to have some
backing from a documented source to provide to my users that they cannot
remove "ize" and their only alternative is to create an exclude dictionary.

I appreciate the "work around" and am happy to advise them but want
something documented before going down this path as I can already hear cries
of "Why should we have to do this ?" and "Do you know how long it willt ake
to type every combination of "ize" (eg realize, realized) and what about
other words like "favour" and "colour" ?

95% of my users aren't bothered either way but the 5% that are, have the
greatest weight !

Cheers

"Doug Robbins" wrote:

> As Doug Potter, who works for Microsoft, suggested, the way to achieve this
> is to put the words ending in "ize" into the exclude dictionary so that
> spelling will not be accepted.
>
> --
> Hope this helps.
>
> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
> services on a paid consulting basis.
>
> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
> "Craig" <Craig DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:065AA455-5252-4A50-A1E6-0C426DC1F3C9@microsoft.com...
> > Doug
> >
> > Is there any site, either Microsoft or other, that states that Australian
> > spellcheck does accept "ize" ? Or that when clicking Tools, Language, Set
> > Language - both Aus and US are listed and there is no way to only have Aus
> > displayed ?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > "Doug Potter [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary. So
> >> you
> >> may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
> >> putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Doug
> >> __
> >> The Legal Guys make me say:
> >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
> >> newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> >> warranties, and confers no rights.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Craig" <Craig DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2B3A6DB9-0763-40F2-A055-C148A560FDF2@microsoft.com...
> >> >I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US) from the
> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a link
> >> > to a
> >> > Microsoft article that states this to be true.
> >> >
> >> > I have been on the following site which states "You can't get rid of
> >> > the
> >> > English(US) spell-checker"
> >> > http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx
> >> >
> >> > We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words like
> >> > "realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".
> >> >
> >> > I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
> >> > Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office Tools\Microsoft
> >> > Office
> >> > 2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to English
> >> > (Australia)
> >> >
> >> > Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia), Keyboard US
> >> >
> >> > In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English (Australia) and
> >> > English (US) appear.
> >> >
> >> > To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be
> >> > removed.
> >> >
> >> > Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting certain
> >> > files
> >> > ?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Select and copy the following, then in Word, select New from the File menu
and press Ctrl+v

"Doug Potter [MSFT]" <doug_potter.TakeThisOut@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:<uXX4JIndFHA.2664.TakeThisOut@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>...

> For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary. So you

> may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize it.

>

> Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by

> putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.

>

> --

> Doug

> __

> The Legal Guys make me say:

> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for

> newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no

> warranties, and confers no rights.


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:172BBE2F-A7DC-472A-800D-F12C1D64A680@microsoft.com...
> Doug
>
> I have done this and it works well enough. I would prefer to have some
> backing from a documented source to provide to my users that they cannot
> remove "ize" and their only alternative is to create an exclude
> dictionary.
>
> I appreciate the "work around" and am happy to advise them but want
> something documented before going down this path as I can already hear
> cries
> of "Why should we have to do this ?" and "Do you know how long it willt
> ake
> to type every combination of "ize" (eg realize, realized) and what about
> other words like "favour" and "colour" ?
>
> 95% of my users aren't bothered either way but the 5% that are, have the
> greatest weight !
>
> Cheers
>
> "Doug Robbins" wrote:
>
>> As Doug Potter, who works for Microsoft, suggested, the way to achieve
>> this
>> is to put the words ending in "ize" into the exclude dictionary so that
>> spelling will not be accepted.
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>
>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>> "Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:065AA455-5252-4A50-A1E6-0C426DC1F3C9@microsoft.com...
>> > Doug
>> >
>> > Is there any site, either Microsoft or other, that states that
>> > Australian
>> > spellcheck does accept "ize" ? Or that when clicking Tools, Language,
>> > Set
>> > Language - both Aus and US are listed and there is no way to only have
>> > Aus
>> > displayed ?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > "Doug Potter [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary.
>> >> So
>> >> you
>> >> may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
>> >> putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Doug
>> >> __
>> >> The Legal Guys make me say:
>> >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
>> >> newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>> >> warranties, and confers no rights.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2B3A6DB9-0763-40F2-A055-C148A560FDF2@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US) from
>> >> >the
>> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a
>> >> > link
>> >> > to a
>> >> > Microsoft article that states this to be true.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have been on the following site which states "You can't get rid of
>> >> > the
>> >> > English(US) spell-checker"
>> >> > http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx
>> >> >
>> >> > We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words
>> >> > like
>> >> > "realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".
>> >> >
>> >> > I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
>> >> > Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office
>> >> > Tools\Microsoft
>> >> > Office
>> >> > 2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to English
>> >> > (Australia)
>> >> >
>> >> > Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia), Keyboard US
>> >> >
>> >> > In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English (Australia)
>> >> > and
>> >> > English (US) appear.
>> >> >
>> >> > To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
>> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be
>> >> > removed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting certain
>> >> > files
>> >> > ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Sorry Doug, Not sure what I am meant to copy and what do when pasting into a
new Word doc ? It is early in the morning so I may not be quite with it !

Cheers

"Doug Robbins" wrote:

> Select and copy the following, then in Word, select New from the File menu
> and press Ctrl+v
>
> "Doug Potter [MSFT]" <doug_potter.TakeThisOut@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:<uXX4JIndFHA.2664.TakeThisOut@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>...
>
> > For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary. So you
>
> > may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize it.
>
> >
>
> > Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
>
> > putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > Doug
>
> > __
>
> > The Legal Guys make me say:
>
> > Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
>
> > newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>
> > warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
> --
> Hope this helps.
>
> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
> services on a paid consulting basis.
>
> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
> "Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:172BBE2F-A7DC-472A-800D-F12C1D64A680@microsoft.com...
> > Doug
> >
> > I have done this and it works well enough. I would prefer to have some
> > backing from a documented source to provide to my users that they cannot
> > remove "ize" and their only alternative is to create an exclude
> > dictionary.
> >
> > I appreciate the "work around" and am happy to advise them but want
> > something documented before going down this path as I can already hear
> > cries
> > of "Why should we have to do this ?" and "Do you know how long it willt
> > ake
> > to type every combination of "ize" (eg realize, realized) and what about
> > other words like "favour" and "colour" ?
> >
> > 95% of my users aren't bothered either way but the 5% that are, have the
> > greatest weight !
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > "Doug Robbins" wrote:
> >
> >> As Doug Potter, who works for Microsoft, suggested, the way to achieve
> >> this
> >> is to put the words ending in "ize" into the exclude dictionary so that
> >> spelling will not be accepted.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
> >> services on a paid consulting basis.
> >>
> >> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
> >> "Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:065AA455-5252-4A50-A1E6-0C426DC1F3C9@microsoft.com...
> >> > Doug
> >> >
> >> > Is there any site, either Microsoft or other, that states that
> >> > Australian
> >> > spellcheck does accept "ize" ? Or that when clicking Tools, Language,
> >> > Set
> >> > Language - both Aus and US are listed and there is no way to only have
> >> > Aus
> >> > displayed ?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > "Doug Potter [MSFT]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary.
> >> >> So
> >> >> you
> >> >> may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
> >> >> putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Doug
> >> >> __
> >> >> The Legal Guys make me say:
> >> >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
> >> >> newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
> >> >> warranties, and confers no rights.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Craig" <Craig.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:2B3A6DB9-0763-40F2-A055-C148A560FDF2@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US) from
> >> >> >the
> >> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a
> >> >> > link
> >> >> > to a
> >> >> > Microsoft article that states this to be true.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have been on the following site which states "You can't get rid of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > English(US) spell-checker"
> >> >> > http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > "realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
> >> >> > Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office
> >> >> > Tools\Microsoft
> >> >> > Office
> >> >> > 2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to English
> >> >> > (Australia)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia), Keyboard US
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English (Australia)
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > English (US) appear.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
> >> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be
> >> >> > removed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting certain
> >> >> > files
> >> >> > ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The message from Doug Potter of Microsoft. That may give you the
documentation that the blockheads require. They probably should be given
more work to do so that they don't have time to worry about such issues <g>

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Craig" <Craig.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ACDC9EAA-14C3-46EA-B2BC-821A6FB34B2D@microsoft.com...
> Sorry Doug, Not sure what I am meant to copy and what do when pasting into
> a
> new Word doc ? It is early in the morning so I may not be quite with it !
>
> Cheers
>
> "Doug Robbins" wrote:
>
>> Select and copy the following, then in Word, select New from the File
>> menu
>> and press Ctrl+v
>>
>> "Doug Potter [MSFT]" <doug_potter.DeleteThis@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:<uXX4JIndFHA.2664.DeleteThis@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>...
>>
>> > For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary. So
>> > you
>>
>> > may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize
>> > it.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
>>
>> > putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > --
>>
>> > Doug
>>
>> > __
>>
>> > The Legal Guys make me say:
>>
>> > Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
>>
>> > newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>>
>> > warranties, and confers no rights.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>
>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>> "Craig" <Craig.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:172BBE2F-A7DC-472A-800D-F12C1D64A680@microsoft.com...
>> > Doug
>> >
>> > I have done this and it works well enough. I would prefer to have some
>> > backing from a documented source to provide to my users that they
>> > cannot
>> > remove "ize" and their only alternative is to create an exclude
>> > dictionary.
>> >
>> > I appreciate the "work around" and am happy to advise them but want
>> > something documented before going down this path as I can already hear
>> > cries
>> > of "Why should we have to do this ?" and "Do you know how long it willt
>> > ake
>> > to type every combination of "ize" (eg realize, realized) and what
>> > about
>> > other words like "favour" and "colour" ?
>> >
>> > 95% of my users aren't bothered either way but the 5% that are, have
>> > the
>> > greatest weight !
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > "Doug Robbins" wrote:
>> >
>> >> As Doug Potter, who works for Microsoft, suggested, the way to achieve
>> >> this
>> >> is to put the words ending in "ize" into the exclude dictionary so
>> >> that
>> >> spelling will not be accepted.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>> >> services on a paid consulting basis.
>> >>
>> >> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>> >> "Craig" <Craig.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:065AA455-5252-4A50-A1E6-0C426DC1F3C9@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Doug
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there any site, either Microsoft or other, that states that
>> >> > Australian
>> >> > spellcheck does accept "ize" ? Or that when clicking Tools,
>> >> > Language,
>> >> > Set
>> >> > Language - both Aus and US are listed and there is no way to only
>> >> > have
>> >> > Aus
>> >> > displayed ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >
>> >> > "Doug Potter [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary.
>> >> >> So
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not
>> >> >> realize
>> >> >> it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Doug
>> >> >> __
>> >> >> The Legal Guys make me say:
>> >> >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
>> >> >> newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>> >> >> warranties, and confers no rights.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Craig" <Craig.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:2B3A6DB9-0763-40F2-A055-C148A560FDF2@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US)
>> >> >> >from
>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a
>> >> >> > link
>> >> >> > to a
>> >> >> > Microsoft article that states this to be true.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have been on the following site which states "You can't get rid
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > English(US) spell-checker"
>> >> >> > http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > "realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
>> >> >> > Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office
>> >> >> > Tools\Microsoft
>> >> >> > Office
>> >> >> > 2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to
>> >> >> > English
>> >> >> > (Australia)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia), Keyboard
>> >> >> > US
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English
>> >> >> > (Australia)
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > English (US) appear.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
>> >> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > removed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting
>> >> >> > certain
>> >> >> > files
>> >> >> > ?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Cheers
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I will speak to our lexicographer about our references - but for UK English,
various sources list both forms as acceptable.

I haven't responded sooner because I've been on vacation in Canada, where
they speak another funny English Smile.

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"Doug Robbins" <dkr.RemoveThis@REMOVEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:OCuI5wSfFHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> The message from Doug Potter of Microsoft. That may give you the
> documentation that the blockheads require. They probably should be given
> more work to do so that they don't have time to worry about such issues
> <g>
>
> --
> Hope this helps.
>
> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
> services on a paid consulting basis.
>
> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
> "Craig" <Craig.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ACDC9EAA-14C3-46EA-B2BC-821A6FB34B2D@microsoft.com...
>> Sorry Doug, Not sure what I am meant to copy and what do when pasting
>> into a
>> new Word doc ? It is early in the morning so I may not be quite with it
>> !
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> "Doug Robbins" wrote:
>>
>>> Select and copy the following, then in Word, select New from the File
>>> menu
>>> and press Ctrl+v
>>>
>>> "Doug Potter [MSFT]" <doug_potter.RemoveThis@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:<uXX4JIndFHA.2664.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>...
>>>
>>> > For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the dictionary. So
>>> > you
>>>
>>> > may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not realize
>>> > it.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this by
>>>
>>> > putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > --
>>>
>>> > Doug
>>>
>>> > __
>>>
>>> > The Legal Guys make me say:
>>>
>>> > Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
>>>
>>> > newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>>>
>>> > warranties, and confers no rights.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>>
>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>> "Craig" <Craig.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:172BBE2F-A7DC-472A-800D-F12C1D64A680@microsoft.com...
>>> > Doug
>>> >
>>> > I have done this and it works well enough. I would prefer to have
>>> > some
>>> > backing from a documented source to provide to my users that they
>>> > cannot
>>> > remove "ize" and their only alternative is to create an exclude
>>> > dictionary.
>>> >
>>> > I appreciate the "work around" and am happy to advise them but want
>>> > something documented before going down this path as I can already hear
>>> > cries
>>> > of "Why should we have to do this ?" and "Do you know how long it
>>> > willt
>>> > ake
>>> > to type every combination of "ize" (eg realize, realized) and what
>>> > about
>>> > other words like "favour" and "colour" ?
>>> >
>>> > 95% of my users aren't bothered either way but the 5% that are, have
>>> > the
>>> > greatest weight !
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> >
>>> > "Doug Robbins" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> As Doug Potter, who works for Microsoft, suggested, the way to
>>> >> achieve
>>> >> this
>>> >> is to put the words ending in "ize" into the exclude dictionary so
>>> >> that
>>> >> spelling will not be accepted.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Hope this helps.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
>>> >> services on a paid consulting basis.
>>> >>
>>> >> Doug Robbins - Word MVP
>>> >> "Craig" <Craig.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:065AA455-5252-4A50-A1E6-0C426DC1F3C9@microsoft.com...
>>> >> > Doug
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Is there any site, either Microsoft or other, that states that
>>> >> > Australian
>>> >> > spellcheck does accept "ize" ? Or that when clicking Tools,
>>> >> > Language,
>>> >> > Set
>>> >> > Language - both Aus and US are listed and there is no way to only
>>> >> > have
>>> >> > Aus
>>> >> > displayed ?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Doug Potter [MSFT]" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> For Australian, both "realize" and "realise" are in the
>>> >> >> dictionary.
>>> >> >> So
>>> >> >> you
>>> >> >> may very well have the spell checker set to Australian and not
>>> >> >> realize
>>> >> >> it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Both forms are acceptable in Australian. You could deal with this
>>> >> >> by
>>> >> >> putting "realize" in your exclude dictionary.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Doug
>>> >> >> __
>>> >> >> The Legal Guys make me say:
>>> >> >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >> newsgroup purposes only. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>>> >> >> warranties, and confers no rights.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Craig" <Craig.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:2B3A6DB9-0763-40F2-A055-C148A560FDF2@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >> >I am resigned to believe there is no way to remove English(US)
>>> >> >> >from
>>> >> >> >the
>>> >> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 and was hoping someone could give me a
>>> >> >> > link
>>> >> >> > to a
>>> >> >> > Microsoft article that states this to be true.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I have been on the following site which states "You can't get
>>> >> >> > rid of
>>> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> > English(US) spell-checker"
>>> >> >> > http://msmvps.com/thinice/articles/39610.aspx
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > We have users who would like the spellchecker to highlight words
>>> >> >> > like
>>> >> >> > "realize" as incorrect and suggest "realise".
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I have checked the following on Windows 2000 and XP :
>>> >> >> > Start Menu\Programs\Microsoft Office\Microsoft Office
>>> >> >> > Tools\Microsoft
>>> >> >> > Office
>>> >> >> > 2003 Language Settings - Both default and enabled are set to
>>> >> >> > English
>>> >> >> > (Australia)
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Regional and Languages - All set to English (Australia),
>>> >> >> > Keyboard US
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > In Word - Tools, Language, Set Language - both English
>>> >> >> > (Australia)
>>> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> > English (US) appear.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
>>> >> >> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot
>>> >> >> > be
>>> >> >> > removed.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Unless someone knows of a way.....via a reghack or deleting
>>> >> >> > certain
>>> >> >> > files
>>> >> >> > ?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Cheers
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Cindy,

I've been to your website and tried all the suggestions that you
mentioned. But the spellchecker still uses English (US) when chosen.
This seems crazy as all my other Office 2003 programs - Excel,
Powerpoint, Access - use English (Australian) when the spellcheck
option is chosen. Any ideas ????

It seems insane that such a comprehensive word processor doesn't have
the ability to check for English (Australian) spelling.

Thanks

Nick Price


Cindy M -WordMVP- wrote:
> *Hi =?Utf-8?B?Q3JhaWc=?=,
>
> > To sum up, I just need a link to a document that states that the
> > Spellchecker in Word 2003 has English (US) installed and cannot be
> removed.
> >
> All languages are "bundled" into the same dictionary (*.lex file),
> the
> exception being Australian: MSSP3ENA.LEX
>
> So I don't think you'll find a site that will tell you this. However,
> there's
> no way to explicitly uninstall one "flavor" of any language. But you
> have to
> realize that even if you could uninstall US English, that wouldn't
> necessarily prevent it from appearing in a Word document. Just
> copying text
> from a website can bring it in. And the user can apply language
> formatting
> for any language, whether it's installed or enabled on the system or
> not.
>
> The only thing uninstalling or disabling a language will do is to
> make sure
> Word won't try to run spell check on it. Period.
>
> For more background on how Word handles language formatting, you'll
> find an
> article on the Tips page on my website. If you follow those
> directions you
> should be able to prevent US English from showing up by default in
> new
> documents created from "clean" templates. But there's no way to
> guarantee
> that it would be brought in from another source (copy/paste).
>
> Cindy Meister
> INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
> http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
> http://www.word.mvps.org
>
> This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow
> question or
> reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail Smile *



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 2003 - English (Australia) and English (US) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have found that if I go to "Templates" in Windows Explorer, look for
"Normal.dot", right click on the file name, choose "Open", then you
will see a blank document.
Go straight to Tools/Language/Set Language. Select the language you
want, then click "Default". This will set all future documents based
on the "Normal" template to that language.
If you are working on an existing document, when it is first opened,
select All, then follow the above procedure, but no need to set
"Default" (it's already set in the previous step). Doing this to an
existing document will apply your chosen dictionary to that document.

When you save & close, the next time you open it, it will have already
have your chosen dictionary applied to it. Try running the spell
checker to it, and you will see the language displayed.

This works with me. Anybody else found this?



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