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Arlene
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Word 07 htm, xml, wmz, gif, thmx files when saving as a Web page
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When I save a *.docx file in Word 07 that includes one piece of clip art as a
*.htm file, Word 07 creates six files:

*.htm
*_colorschememapping.xml
*_filelist.xml
*_image001.wmz
*_image003.gif
*_themedata.thmx

What is the difference between each of these files? Does the *.htm file have
these other files embedded and do I really need these other files if I want
to upload a Web page to an ftp site?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 07 htm, xml, wmz, gif, thmx files when saving as a Web page [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Arlene,

The additions for Word 2007 is the colorschememapping.xml and the themedata.thmx file. These are round trip (reopen an editable
Word document) files used only for those purposes. The .wmz files are from prior versions. They are the zipped version of the
WMF/EMF pictures in the document. Web browsers don't usually support those formats, but they're saved for roundtripping back to
Word. Pictures are numbered sequentially, not for a given document but for the folder they're stored in, so if you have multiple
..htm files from Word in a single folder the numbers increment, rather than start over. The _filelist.xml is the listing of all of
the pieces that make up the web document so that Word can put them back together when opening the document again.

If you save as Web Page, Filtered then you many of those won't appear as the target for a Filtered web page is a browser, rather
than Word.
If you're going to want all of the content to appear reliably then you should upload the full set of files. You can also choose the
Word option to save .htm files as .mht (single file web pages). These tend to open more slowly as they have to first download to the
local computer from a web link and then open.

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<<"Arlene" <Arlene RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:12983B2E-D43E-40CA-BD31-0546B3BB72C2@microsoft.com...
When I save a *.docx file in Word 07 that includes one piece of clip art as a
*.htm file, Word 07 creates six files:

*.htm
*_colorschememapping.xml
*_filelist.xml
*_image001.wmz
*_image003.gif
*_themedata.thmx

What is the difference between each of these files? Does the *.htm file have
these other files embedded and do I really need these other files if I want
to upload a Web page to an ftp site?

Thanks in advance. >>
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Bob Buckland ?Smile
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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Arlene
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 07 htm, xml, wmz, gif, thmx files when saving as a Web pa [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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So if I want to save the entire Web page without generating any other files
and have it open reliably in Word or a browser, all I have to do is save it
as *.mht? If so, that's great news. If I save it as *.mht, can I open it and
continue editing it--for example, add or delete pictures or text?

"Bob Buckland ?Smile" wrote:

> Hi Arlene,
>
> The additions for Word 2007 is the colorschememapping.xml and the themedata.thmx file. These are round trip (reopen an editable
> Word document) files used only for those purposes. The .wmz files are from prior versions. They are the zipped version of the
> WMF/EMF pictures in the document. Web browsers don't usually support those formats, but they're saved for roundtripping back to
> Word. Pictures are numbered sequentially, not for a given document but for the folder they're stored in, so if you have multiple
> ..htm files from Word in a single folder the numbers increment, rather than start over. The _filelist.xml is the listing of all of
> the pieces that make up the web document so that Word can put them back together when opening the document again.
>
> If you save as Web Page, Filtered then you many of those won't appear as the target for a Filtered web page is a browser, rather
> than Word.
> If you're going to want all of the content to appear reliably then you should upload the full set of files. You can also choose the
> Word option to save .htm files as .mht (single file web pages). These tend to open more slowly as they have to first download to the
> local computer from a web link and then open.
>
> ================
> <<"Arlene" <Arlene.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:12983B2E-D43E-40CA-BD31-0546B3BB72C2@microsoft.com...
> When I save a *.docx file in Word 07 that includes one piece of clip art as a
> *.htm file, Word 07 creates six files:
>
> *.htm
> *_colorschememapping.xml
> *_filelist.xml
> *_image001.wmz
> *_image003.gif
> *_themedata.thmx
>
> What is the difference between each of these files? Does the *.htm file have
> these other files embedded and do I really need these other files if I want
> to upload a Web page to an ftp site?
>
> Thanks in advance. >>
> --
>
> Bob Buckland ?Smile
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Word 07 htm, xml, wmz, gif, thmx files when saving as a Web pa [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Arlene,

Both Internet Explorer and MS Word can save in the .MHT format. It's sort of a zip file for web browsers. Not all browsers can
work with them, and as I mentioned they take longer to open than .HTM files in many cases. The advantage is that you only have one
file to work with, but saving Word .htm files (and if the host supports Front Page Server Extensions you may be able to save
directly to the website from Word) and using the supporting folder for each page you have basically one file and one subfolder
(matching name) to upload.

On larger .MHT files Word has had trouble reopening them in some cases.
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<<"Arlene" <Arlene DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5183D849-D192-4A85-A787-A0120F71CF0F@microsoft.com...
So if I want to save the entire Web page without generating any other files
and have it open reliably in Word or a browser, all I have to do is save it
as *.mht? If so, that's great news. If I save it as *.mht, can I open it and
continue editing it--for example, add or delete pictures or text? >>
--

Bob Buckland ?Smile
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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Arlene
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Word 07 htm, xml, wmz, gif, thmx files when saving as a Web pa [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I this case, keeping the file down to one is a huge advantage. I'm working
with a software developer who will need to take any files or folders
generated and use them in other processes such as creating a sort of
compresssed set of files which will inclulde hundreds of other files and then
having the capability of uploaded the file and restoring all files. So the
fewer files and folders, the better. With that in mind, don't you think the
mht format sounds like the friendliest one for this application? Students
won't actually be posting any of these files to a Web site. They just need to
learn how to save a Word file as a Web page, add pictures, tables, and
hyperlinks and format the Web page.

"Bob Buckland ?Smile" wrote:

> Hi Arlene,
>
> Both Internet Explorer and MS Word can save in the .MHT format. It's sort of a zip file for web browsers. Not all browsers can
> work with them, and as I mentioned they take longer to open than .HTM files in many cases. The advantage is that you only have one
> file to work with, but saving Word .htm files (and if the host supports Front Page Server Extensions you may be able to save
> directly to the website from Word) and using the supporting folder for each page you have basically one file and one subfolder
> (matching name) to upload.
>
> On larger .MHT files Word has had trouble reopening them in some cases.
> =================
> <<"Arlene" <Arlene.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5183D849-D192-4A85-A787-A0120F71CF0F@microsoft.com...
> So if I want to save the entire Web page without generating any other files
> and have it open reliably in Word or a browser, all I have to do is save it
> as *.mht? If so, that's great news. If I save it as *.mht, can I open it and
> continue editing it--for example, add or delete pictures or text? >>
> --
>
> Bob Buckland ?Smile
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 07 htm, xml, wmz, gif, thmx files when saving as a Web pa [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Arlene,

Using the .MHT file format is worth testing to be sure it will fit the classroom environment and typical machine capabilities.

You can make 'Single File Web Page' (.MHT) the default in Word 2007 for Web documents in
Office Button=>Word Options=>Advanced,
in Advanced Scroll down to general and select
[Web Options] then the 'Browsers' tab

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<<"Arlene" <Arlene RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D407C5D8-445B-4FC9-978D-962A6EB09644@microsoft.com...
I this case, keeping the file down to one is a huge advantage. I'm working
with a software developer who will need to take any files or folders
generated and use them in other processes such as creating a sort of
compresssed set of files which will inclulde hundreds of other files and then
having the capability of uploaded the file and restoring all files. So the
fewer files and folders, the better. With that in mind, don't you think the
mht format sounds like the friendliest one for this application? Students
won't actually be posting any of these files to a Web site. They just need to
learn how to save a Word file as a Web page, add pictures, tables, and
hyperlinks and format the Web page. <<
--

Bob Buckland ?Smile
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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Arlene
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: Word 07 htm, xml, wmz, gif, thmx files when saving as a Web pa [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi, Bob--sorry to belabor this, but there's a major investment of time and
money riding on my recommendation, so here goes. If I save a Word document as
a*.mht (single file web page) and I’m able to round trip back to Word (open
the *.mht file in Word for editing) without issue, am I home free? Also, in
the Web Options dialog box, Files tab, do I need to uncheck “Organize
supporting files in a folder”? In the Browsers tab, checking “Save new Web
pages as Single File Web Pages” changes the default to *.mht but has no other
effect?

Arlene

"Bob Buckland ?Smile" wrote:

> Hi Arlene,
>
> Using the .MHT file format is worth testing to be sure it will fit the classroom environment and typical machine capabilities.
>
> You can make 'Single File Web Page' (.MHT) the default in Word 2007 for Web documents in
> Office Button=>Word Options=>Advanced,
> in Advanced Scroll down to general and select
> [Web Options] then the 'Browsers' tab
>
> ================
> <<"Arlene" <Arlene.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D407C5D8-445B-4FC9-978D-962A6EB09644@microsoft.com...
> I this case, keeping the file down to one is a huge advantage. I'm working
> with a software developer who will need to take any files or folders
> generated and use them in other processes such as creating a sort of
> compresssed set of files which will inclulde hundreds of other files and then
> having the capability of uploaded the file and restoring all files. So the
> fewer files and folders, the better. With that in mind, don't you think the
> mht format sounds like the friendliest one for this application? Students
> won't actually be posting any of these files to a Web site. They just need to
> learn how to save a Word file as a Web page, add pictures, tables, and
> hyperlinks and format the Web page. <<
> --
>
> Bob Buckland ?Smile
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Word 07 htm, xml, wmz, gif, thmx files when saving as a Web pa [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Arlene,

Well, it's really important that you do some testing on some documents that represent a cross section of what will be used in your
scenario on the machine configurations they will use. Theory and practice aren't, unfortunately, always the same Smile

I don't know if you're 'home free' if it round trips back to Word (also test on a machine other than the one that created it) but
that's pretty much the reliability test Smile One of the questions that comes up with .MHT files is why not save as .DOC, at that
point if the goal is for a single compatible file re-editable in Word?

The setting in the Web Options page doesn't matter with the .MHT (single file) setting turned on, directly, the .MHT file, when
opened by Word (or other Office app creating the web page) will extract the necessary single or multiple folder structure needed to
the %temp% files location on the PC.

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<<"Arlene" <Arlene RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0F039437-0A5C-4101-84E7-547629D2ABE4@microsoft.com...
Hi, Bob--sorry to belabor this, but there's a major investment of time and
money riding on my recommendation, so here goes. If I save a Word document as
a*.mht (single file web page) and I'm able to round trip back to Word (open
the *.mht file in Word for editing) without issue, am I home free? Also, in
the Web Options dialog box, Files tab, do I need to uncheck "Organize
supporting files in a folder"? In the Browsers tab, checking "Save new Web
pages as Single File Web Pages" changes the default to *.mht but has no other
effect?

Arlene >>
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Bob Buckland ?Smile
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
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