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DHegler
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Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posts: 2



PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>outlook>general (more info?)

I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully my info may
help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts do not
include much info.

I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista Enterprise/Business
(whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it right now,
no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports absolutely NO
problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small Business
(the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached Exchange mode,
basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.

My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA, CNA, CCNA,
A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been in the
network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS Office 2007 Pro
(with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine at 2GB for
testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I tried setting
it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus scan
functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down to 1.0GB due
to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.

My symptoms are basically:
-Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will not
respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same thing a second
time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
-When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at normal
pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in whichever mode
I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
-My Task Manager shows outlook.exe hanging at 50% cpu.
-My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically spikes
between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
-Network utilization does not really affect anything
-The memory hard faults can spike to as high as 30, but typically is at 0 -
memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the 2GB

I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure changed
(sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues everyone has), but
I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With billions of
$$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to this issue.

Anyway, anything else to check?

Thanks,
Dan
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Roady [MVP]
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Since: May 17, 2004
Posts: 10442



PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Some Dell machines are being deployed with "Outlook Addins Setup
(Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and try again.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

-----
"DHegler" wrote in message

>I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully my info
>may
> help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts do not
> include much info.
>
> I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista Enterprise/Business
> (whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it right
> now,
> no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports absolutely NO
> problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small Business
> (the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached Exchange mode,
> basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.
>
> My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA, CNA,
> CCNA,
> A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been in the
> network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS Office 2007
> Pro
> (with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine at 2GB
> for
> testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I tried
> setting
> it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus scan
> functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down to 1.0GB
> due
> to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.
>
> My symptoms are basically:
> -Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will not
> respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same thing a
> second
> time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
> -When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at normal
> pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in whichever
> mode
> I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
> -My Task Manager shows outlook.exe hanging at 50% cpu.
> -My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically spikes
> between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
> -Network utilization does not really affect anything
> -The memory hard faults can spike to as high as 30, but typically is at
> 0 -
> memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the 2GB
>
> I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure changed
> (sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues everyone has),
> but
> I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With billions
> of
> $$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to this
> issue.
>
> Anyway, anything else to check?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
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DHegler
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Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posts: 2



PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I can't believe I just wasted so much time trying to figure this out when it
was a software problem that Dell put out with one of their OEM vendors...

Worked like a charm!

"Roady [MVP]" wrote:

> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "Outlook Addins Setup
> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and try again.
>
> --
> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>
> -----
> "DHegler" wrote in message
>
> >I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully my info
> >may
> > help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts do not
> > include much info.
> >
> > I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista Enterprise/Business
> > (whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it right
> > now,
> > no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports absolutely NO
> > problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small Business
> > (the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached Exchange mode,
> > basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.
> >
> > My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA, CNA,
> > CCNA,
> > A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been in the
> > network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS Office 2007
> > Pro
> > (with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine at 2GB
> > for
> > testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I tried
> > setting
> > it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus scan
> > functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down to 1.0GB
> > due
> > to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.
> >
> > My symptoms are basically:
> > -Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will not
> > respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same thing a
> > second
> > time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
> > -When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at normal
> > pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in whichever
> > mode
> > I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
> > -My Task Manager shows outlook.exe hanging at 50% cpu.
> > -My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically spikes
> > between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
> > -Network utilization does not really affect anything
> > -The memory hard faults can spike to as high as 30, but typically is at
> > 0 -
> > memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the 2GB
> >
> > I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure changed
> > (sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues everyone has),
> > but
> > I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With billions
> > of
> > $$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to this
> > issue.
> >
> > Anyway, anything else to check?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
>
>
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Millette
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Since: May 01, 2006
Posts: 13



PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I would like to add my situation to this as it seems you are on to something.
I recently installed office 2007 on an HP system that has been running 2003
without issue. No all of a sudden I cannot open calendar items, Outlook hang
up. My send and recieve is very slow and I cannot send as attachment in Excel
or word. Oultook just shuts down in that case.
--
Chris Millette
MCP/Network Administrator
Community Bank & Trust


"Roady [MVP]" wrote:

> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "Outlook Addins Setup
> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and try again.
>
> --
> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>
> -----
> "DHegler" wrote in message
>
> >I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully my info
> >may
> > help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts do not
> > include much info.
> >
> > I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista Enterprise/Business
> > (whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it right
> > now,
> > no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports absolutely NO
> > problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small Business
> > (the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached Exchange mode,
> > basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.
> >
> > My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA, CNA,
> > CCNA,
> > A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been in the
> > network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS Office 2007
> > Pro
> > (with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine at 2GB
> > for
> > testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I tried
> > setting
> > it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus scan
> > functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down to 1.0GB
> > due
> > to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.
> >
> > My symptoms are basically:
> > -Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will not
> > respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same thing a
> > second
> > time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
> > -When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at normal
> > pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in whichever
> > mode
> > I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
> > -My Task Manager shows outlook.exe hanging at 50% cpu.
> > -My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically spikes
> > between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
> > -Network utilization does not really affect anything
> > -The memory hard faults can spike to as high as 30, but typically is at
> > 0 -
> > memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the 2GB
> >
> > I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure changed
> > (sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues everyone has),
> > but
> > I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With billions
> > of
> > $$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to this
> > issue.
> >
> > Anyway, anything else to check?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
>
>
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Roady [MVP]
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Since: May 17, 2004
Posts: 10442



PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

This is an unrelated issue to the original post.

However;
Is this on a Windows Vista or an XP system?
What mail account type are you using?
What is being logged to the Event Viewer.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

-----
"Millette" wrote in message

>I would like to add my situation to this as it seems you are on to
>something.
> I recently installed office 2007 on an HP system that has been running
> 2003
> without issue. No all of a sudden I cannot open calendar items, Outlook
> hang
> up. My send and recieve is very slow and I cannot send as attachment in
> Excel
> or word. Oultook just shuts down in that case.
> --
> Chris Millette
> MCP/Network Administrator
> Community Bank & Trust
>
>
> "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "Outlook Addins Setup
>> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and try
>> again.
>>
>> --
>> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>>
>> -----
>> "DHegler" wrote in message
>>
>> >I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully my
>> >info
>> >may
>> > help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts do not
>> > include much info.
>> >
>> > I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista Enterprise/Business
>> > (whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it right
>> > now,
>> > no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports absolutely NO
>> > problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small
>> > Business
>> > (the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached Exchange
>> > mode,
>> > basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.
>> >
>> > My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA, CNA,
>> > CCNA,
>> > A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been in
>> > the
>> > network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS Office
>> > 2007
>> > Pro
>> > (with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine at
>> > 2GB
>> > for
>> > testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I tried
>> > setting
>> > it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus scan
>> > functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down to
>> > 1.0GB
>> > due
>> > to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.
>> >
>> > My symptoms are basically:
>> > -Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will not
>> > respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same thing a
>> > second
>> > time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
>> > -When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at
>> > normal
>> > pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in
>> > whichever
>> > mode
>> > I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
>> > -My Task Manager shows outlook.exe hanging at 50% cpu.
>> > -My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically spikes
>> > between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
>> > -Network utilization does not really affect anything
>> > -The memory hard faults can spike to as high as 30, but typically is at
>> > 0 -
>> > memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the 2GB
>> >
>> > I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure changed
>> > (sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues everyone
>> > has),
>> > but
>> > I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With
>> > billions
>> > of
>> > $$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to this
>> > issue.
>> >
>> > Anyway, anything else to check?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dan
>>
>>
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Millette
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Since: May 01, 2006
Posts: 13



PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Through another trouble shooter I found out that the form cache file was bad.
I renamed the frmcache.dat and re-started outlook and the entire app runs
much better.
--
Chris Millette
MCP/Network Administrator
Community Bank & Trust


"Roady [MVP]" wrote:

> This is an unrelated issue to the original post.
>
> However;
> Is this on a Windows Vista or an XP system?
> What mail account type are you using?
> What is being logged to the Event Viewer.
>
> --
> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>
> -----
> "Millette" wrote in message
>
> >I would like to add my situation to this as it seems you are on to
> >something.
> > I recently installed office 2007 on an HP system that has been running
> > 2003
> > without issue. No all of a sudden I cannot open calendar items, Outlook
> > hang
> > up. My send and recieve is very slow and I cannot send as attachment in
> > Excel
> > or word. Oultook just shuts down in that case.
> > --
> > Chris Millette
> > MCP/Network Administrator
> > Community Bank & Trust
> >
> >
> > "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "Outlook Addins Setup
> >> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and try
> >> again.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> >> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> >> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> >> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
> >>
> >> -----
> >> "DHegler" wrote in message
> >>
> >> >I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully my
> >> >info
> >> >may
> >> > help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts do not
> >> > include much info.
> >> >
> >> > I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista Enterprise/Business
> >> > (whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it right
> >> > now,
> >> > no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports absolutely NO
> >> > problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small
> >> > Business
> >> > (the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached Exchange
> >> > mode,
> >> > basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.
> >> >
> >> > My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA, CNA,
> >> > CCNA,
> >> > A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been in
> >> > the
> >> > network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS Office
> >> > 2007
> >> > Pro
> >> > (with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine at
> >> > 2GB
> >> > for
> >> > testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I tried
> >> > setting
> >> > it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus scan
> >> > functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down to
> >> > 1.0GB
> >> > due
> >> > to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.
> >> >
> >> > My symptoms are basically:
> >> > -Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will not
> >> > respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same thing a
> >> > second
> >> > time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
> >> > -When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at
> >> > normal
> >> > pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in
> >> > whichever
> >> > mode
> >> > I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
> >> > -My Task Manager shows outlook.exe hanging at 50% cpu.
> >> > -My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically spikes
> >> > between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
> >> > -Network utilization does not really affect anything
> >> > -The memory hard faults can spike to as high as 30, but typically is at
> >> > 0 -
> >> > memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the 2GB
> >> >
> >> > I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure changed
> >> > (sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues everyone
> >> > has),
> >> > but
> >> > I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With
> >> > billions
> >> > of
> >> > $$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to this
> >> > issue.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, anything else to check?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Dan
> >>
> >>
>
>
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trishlm
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Since: Mar 21, 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Wow. I have been dealing with this problem for two days now. I can't
believe how much better it is now. Thank you so much. I was about to
throw my laptop out the window. I've had previous issues with Dell and
have no patience at this point!


On Mar 20, 11:08 am, "Roady [MVP]"
wrote:
> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "OutlookAddins Setup
> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and try again.
>
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Joe Dyer
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Since: Mar 21, 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have a HP 7470n. Installed Office '07 SMall Business edition. Used Outlook
2003 with no problem. I am using ACT. I disabled all my add-ins the other day
and that allowed me to do new mail again. Tech support had me uninstall
System Mechanic 7 and that did not help the speed at all. Right now I can't
make a new message and when it was working it was deathly slow. Also,
whenever the icon showed in the lower right hand corner that says "Outlook
synchronizing folders' my whole machine almost freezes up. Mouse. Keyboard.
Other programs.

Anything from HP on this?

Joe Dyer
Santa Ana, CA

"Millette" wrote:

> Through another trouble shooter I found out that the form cache file was bad.
> I renamed the frmcache.dat and re-started outlook and the entire app runs
> much better.
> --
> Chris Millette
> MCP/Network Administrator
> Community Bank & Trust
>
>
> "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > This is an unrelated issue to the original post.
> >
> > However;
> > Is this on a Windows Vista or an XP system?
> > What mail account type are you using?
> > What is being logged to the Event Viewer.
> >
> > --
> > Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> > Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> > http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> > Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
> >
> > -----
> > "Millette" wrote in message
> >
> > >I would like to add my situation to this as it seems you are on to
> > >something.
> > > I recently installed office 2007 on an HP system that has been running
> > > 2003
> > > without issue. No all of a sudden I cannot open calendar items, Outlook
> > > hang
> > > up. My send and recieve is very slow and I cannot send as attachment in
> > > Excel
> > > or word. Oultook just shuts down in that case.
> > > --
> > > Chris Millette
> > > MCP/Network Administrator
> > > Community Bank & Trust
> > >
> > >
> > > "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "Outlook Addins Setup
> > >> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and try
> > >> again.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> > >> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> > >> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> > >> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
> > >>
> > >> -----
> > >> "DHegler" wrote in message
> > >>
> > >> >I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully my
> > >> >info
> > >> >may
> > >> > help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts do not
> > >> > include much info.
> > >> >
> > >> > I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista Enterprise/Business
> > >> > (whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it right
> > >> > now,
> > >> > no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports absolutely NO
> > >> > problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small
> > >> > Business
> > >> > (the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached Exchange
> > >> > mode,
> > >> > basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.
> > >> >
> > >> > My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA, CNA,
> > >> > CCNA,
> > >> > A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been in
> > >> > the
> > >> > network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS Office
> > >> > 2007
> > >> > Pro
> > >> > (with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine at
> > >> > 2GB
> > >> > for
> > >> > testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I tried
> > >> > setting
> > >> > it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus scan
> > >> > functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down to
> > >> > 1.0GB
> > >> > due
> > >> > to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.
> > >> >
> > >> > My symptoms are basically:
> > >> > -Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will not
> > >> > respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same thing a
> > >> > second
> > >> > time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
> > >> > -When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at
> > >> > normal
> > >> > pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in
> > >> > whichever
> > >> > mode
> > >> > I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
> > >> > -My Task Manager shows outlook.exe hanging at 50% cpu.
> > >> > -My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically spikes
> > >> > between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
> > >> > -Network utilization does not really affect anything
> > >> > -The memory hard faults can spike to as high as 30, but typically is at
> > >> > 0 -
> > >> > memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the 2GB
> > >> >
> > >> > I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure changed
> > >> > (sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues everyone
> > >> > has),
> > >> > but
> > >> > I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With
> > >> > billions
> > >> > of
> > >> > $$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to this
> > >> > issue.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anyway, anything else to check?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Dan
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
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Roady [MVP]
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

You're welcome! Good to hear it worked for you as well! Smile

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

-----
wrote in message

> Wow. I have been dealing with this problem for two days now. I can't
> believe how much better it is now. Thank you so much. I was about to
> throw my laptop out the window. I've had previous issues with Dell and
> have no patience at this point!
>
>
> On Mar 20, 11:08 am, "Roady [MVP]"
> wrote:
>> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "OutlookAddins Setup
>> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and try
>> again.
>>
>
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Roady [MVP]
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Since: May 17, 2004
Posts: 10442



PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

ACT will require an update to be compatible with Outlook 2007.

In addition to that resetting the extend.dat, outcmd.dat and frmcache.dat
and recreating your mail profile is a recommended procedure after an
upgrade. For recrecreating your mail profile see;
http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/newprofile.htm

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

-----
"Joe Dyer" wrote in message

>I have a HP 7470n. Installed Office '07 SMall Business edition. Used
>Outlook
> 2003 with no problem. I am using ACT. I disabled all my add-ins the other
> day
> and that allowed me to do new mail again. Tech support had me uninstall
> System Mechanic 7 and that did not help the speed at all. Right now I
> can't
> make a new message and when it was working it was deathly slow. Also,
> whenever the icon showed in the lower right hand corner that says "Outlook
> synchronizing folders' my whole machine almost freezes up. Mouse.
> Keyboard.
> Other programs.
>
> Anything from HP on this?
>
> Joe Dyer
> Santa Ana, CA
>
> "Millette" wrote:
>
>> Through another trouble shooter I found out that the form cache file was
>> bad.
>> I renamed the frmcache.dat and re-started outlook and the entire app runs
>> much better.
>> --
>> Chris Millette
>> MCP/Network Administrator
>> Community Bank & Trust
>>
>>
>> "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>>
>> > This is an unrelated issue to the original post.
>> >
>> > However;
>> > Is this on a Windows Vista or an XP system?
>> > What mail account type are you using?
>> > What is being logged to the Event Viewer.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>> > Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>> > http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>> > Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>> >
>> > -----
>> > "Millette" wrote in message
>> >
>> > >I would like to add my situation to this as it seems you are on to
>> > >something.
>> > > I recently installed office 2007 on an HP system that has been
>> > > running
>> > > 2003
>> > > without issue. No all of a sudden I cannot open calendar items,
>> > > Outlook
>> > > hang
>> > > up. My send and recieve is very slow and I cannot send as attachment
>> > > in
>> > > Excel
>> > > or word. Oultook just shuts down in that case.
>> > > --
>> > > Chris Millette
>> > > MCP/Network Administrator
>> > > Community Bank & Trust
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "Outlook Addins Setup
>> > >> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and
>> > >> try
>> > >> again.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>> > >> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>> > >> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>> > >> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>> > >>
>> > >> -----
>> > >> "DHegler" wrote in message
>> > >>
>> > >> >I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully
>> > >> >my
>> > >> >info
>> > >> >may
>> > >> > help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts
>> > >> > do not
>> > >> > include much info.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista
>> > >> > Enterprise/Business
>> > >> > (whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it
>> > >> > right
>> > >> > now,
>> > >> > no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports
>> > >> > absolutely NO
>> > >> > problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small
>> > >> > Business
>> > >> > (the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached
>> > >> > Exchange
>> > >> > mode,
>> > >> > basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA,
>> > >> > CNA,
>> > >> > CCNA,
>> > >> > A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been
>> > >> > in
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS
>> > >> > Office
>> > >> > 2007
>> > >> > Pro
>> > >> > (with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine
>> > >> > at
>> > >> > 2GB
>> > >> > for
>> > >> > testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I
>> > >> > tried
>> > >> > setting
>> > >> > it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus
>> > >> > scan
>> > >> > functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > 1.0GB
>> > >> > due
>> > >> > to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > My symptoms are basically:
>> > >> > -Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will
>> > >> > not
>> > >> > respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same
>> > >> > thing a
>> > >> > second
>> > >> > time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
>> > >> > -When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at
>> > >> > normal
>> > >> > pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in
>> > >> > whichever
>> > >> > mode
>> > >> > I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
>> > >> > -My Task Manager shows outlook.exe hanging at 50% cpu.
>> > >> > -My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically
>> > >> > spikes
>> > >> > between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
>> > >> > -Network utilization does not really affect anything
>> > >> > -The memory hard faults can spike to as high as 30, but typically
>> > >> > is at
>> > >> > 0 -
>> > >> > memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the
>> > >> > 2GB
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure
>> > >> > changed
>> > >> > (sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues
>> > >> > everyone
>> > >> > has),
>> > >> > but
>> > >> > I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With
>> > >> > billions
>> > >> > of
>> > >> > $$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to
>> > >> > this
>> > >> > issue.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Anyway, anything else to check?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks,
>> > >> > Dan
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
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bling_bling



Joined: Mar 26, 2007
Posts: 1



PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Remove the outlookaddin by cyberlink from the add/remove control panel. That fixed it for me. Check out my article on it by clicking here:

http://www.geneomatic.com/wordpress/?p=284

Dave
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grant420
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Since: Apr 27, 2007
Posts: 1



PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 Slow Not Responding With All Activities [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>outlook>general (more info?)

Hello fellow Google Groups users:
I too am having this issue, but mine apparently isn't being caused by
some problem with frmcache.dat, nor by the presence of some Dell
preinstalled junk (though the problem is occurring on a Dell 640m
laptop with Dual Core, 1GB 533MHz RAM, etc.). I believe this may be
because at one point in time I was running Office 2007 Ultimate to
test some applications in this new environment - this new version of
Office was installed by me on my old laptop, a Dell Inspiron 600m.
Well, now I have this new PC (the 640m) so I'm back to using Office
2003 Professional. I wonder if my profile was contaminated by Outlook
'07?

Anyone have any thoughts, or better yet proof that this is my issue?
Should I reinstall Office Ultimate 2007???

Thank you

Grant


On Mar 21, 8:39 pm, "Roady [MVP]"
wrote:
> ACT will require an update to be compatible with Outlook 2007.
>
> In addition to that resetting the extend.dat, outcmd.dat and frmcache.dat
> and recreating your mail profile is a recommended procedure after an
> upgrade. For recrecreating your mail profile see;http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/newprofile.htm
>
> --
> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>
> -----
> "Joe Dyer" wrote in messagenews:2EC7A3CC-B332-494C-A0B1-D4018C07F8C3@microsoft.com...
>
>
>
> >I have a HP 7470n. Installed Office '07 SMall Business edition. Used
> >Outlook
> > 2003 with no problem. I am using ACT. I disabled all my add-ins the other
> > day
> > and that allowed me to do new mail again. Tech support had me uninstall
> > System Mechanic 7 and that did not help the speed at all. Right now I
> > can't
> > make a new message and when it was working it was deathly slow. Also,
> > whenever the icon showed in the lower right hand corner that says "Outlook
> > synchronizing folders' my whole machine almost freezes up. Mouse.
> > Keyboard.
> > Other programs.
>
> > Anything from HP on this?
>
> > Joe Dyer
> > Santa Ana, CA
>
> > "Millette" wrote:
>
> >> Through another trouble shooter I found out that the form cache file was
> >> bad.
> >> I renamed the frmcache.dat and re-started outlook and the entire app runs
> >> much better.
> >> --
> >> Chris Millette
> >> MCP/Network Administrator
> >> Community Bank & Trust
>
> >> "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>
> >> > This is an unrelated issue to the original post.
>
> >> > However;
> >> > Is this on a Windows Vista or an XP system?
> >> > What mail account type are you using?
> >> > What is being logged to the Event Viewer.
>
> >> > --
> >> > Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> >> > Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> >> >http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> >> > Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>
> >> > -----
> >> > "Millette" wrote in message
> >> >
> >> > >I would like to add my situation to this as it seems you are on to
> >> > >something.
> >> > > I recently installed office 2007 on an HP system that has been
> >> > > running
> >> > > 2003
> >> > > without issue. No all of a sudden I cannot open calendar items,
> >> > > Outlook
> >> > > hang
> >> > > up. My send and recieve is very slow and I cannot send as attachment
> >> > > in
> >> > > Excel
> >> > > or word. Oultook just shuts down in that case.
> >> > > --
> >> > > Chris Millette
> >> > > MCP/Network Administrator
> >> > > Community Bank & Trust
>
> >> > > "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>
> >> > >> Some Dell machines are being deployed with "Outlook Addins Setup
> >> > >> (Cyberlink)." If yours came with that installed, uninstall it and
> >> > >> try
> >> > >> again.
>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> >> > >> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> >> > >>http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> >> > >> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>
> >> > >> -----
> >> > >> "DHegler" wrote in message
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >I know, another "Outlook 2007 is sooooo slow" post.... Hopefully
> >> > >> >my
> >> > >> >info
> >> > >> >may
> >> > >> > help get some kind of better idea what to look at, as most posts
> >> > >> > do not
> >> > >> > include much info.
>
> >> > >> > I purchased 2 new Dell Inspiron 6400's on Vista
> >> > >> > Enterprise/Business
> >> > >> > (whatever it is called), one has 1 GB RAM with a "user" using it
> >> > >> > right
> >> > >> > now,
> >> > >> > no problems. He has a 164MB Exchange mailbox and reports
> >> > >> > absolutely NO
> >> > >> > problems and loves his new machine. He has MS Office 2007 Small
> >> > >> > Business
> >> > >> > (the one without Access). His Outlook is set up for cached
> >> > >> > Exchange
> >> > >> > mode,
> >> > >> > basically all the defaults - I did not play with any settings.
>
> >> > >> > My machine has issues... I am an out-of-practice MCSE+I, MCDBA,
> >> > >> > CNA,
> >> > >> > CCNA,
> >> > >> > A+, etc. so I still know enough to be dangerous, but have not been
> >> > >> > in
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > network circle for the past two years. I have Vista with MS
> >> > >> > Office
> >> > >> > 2007
> >> > >> > Pro
> >> > >> > (with Access). My machine is the same as his, except I maxed mine
> >> > >> > at
> >> > >> > 2GB
> >> > >> > for
> >> > >> > testing purposes. My mailbox size was 1.9GB on the server. I
> >> > >> > tried
> >> > >> > setting
> >> > >> > it up cached and non-cached, disabled indexing, disabled virus
> >> > >> > scan
> >> > >> > functionality (Symantec Corp 10.2), dropped my mailbox size down
> >> > >> > to
> >> > >> > 1.0GB
> >> > >> > due
> >> > >> > to deleting a lot of Sent and Deleted Items. Still no luck.
>
> >> > >> > My symptoms are basically:
> >> > >> > -Anytime I interact with Outlook once it initially starts, it will
> >> > >> > not
> >> > >> > respond for 5-30 seconds on ANY click. If I click on the same
> >> > >> > thing a
> >> > >> > second
> >> > >> > time, the title bar adds (Not Responding) to the program name.
> >> > >> > -When I sync my mail to the server, it actually appears to work at
> >> > >> > normal
> >> > >> > pace while downloading messages or syncing from the server, in
> >> > >> > whichever
> >> > >> > mode
> >> > >> > I select (cached/non-cached/etc).
> >> > >> > -My Task Manager showsoutlook.exehanging at 50% cpu.
> >> > >> > -My disk activity spikes over 1 MB/s periodically and typically
> >> > >> > spikes
> >> > >> > between 100 kB/s and 300 kB/s.
> >> > >> > -Network utilization does not really affect anything
> >> > >> > -The memory hard faults canspiketo as high as 30, but typically
> >> > >> > is at
> >> > >> > 0 -
> >> > >> > memory usage is 40% of physical memory, the rest is cached of the
> >> > >> > 2GB
>
> >> > >> > I did read the MS article about how the pst/ost file structure
> >> > >> > changed
> >> > >> > (sounds like a big OOPS with all these Outlook 2007 issues
> >> > >> > everyone
> >> > >> > has),
> >> > >> > but
> >> > >> > I cannot believe that is the only reason for this behavior. With
> >> > >> > billions
> >> > >> > of
> >> > >> > $$$ into R&D at MS, I can't believe everyone turned a blind eye to
> >> > >> > this
> >> > >> > issue.
>
> >> > >> > Anyway, anything else to check?
>
> >> > >> > Thanks,
> >> > >> > Dan- Hide quoted text -
>
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xfileman2000



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:16 am    Post subject: Outlook 2007 on Vista Not Responding no matter what I do... [Login to view extended thread Info.]

I've got an HP Compaq Presario C700. On that I have Outlook 2007 installed on my system. It has been working wonderful until about 3 weeks ago and it started pausing and taking forever just to preview an email or open an email or reply to an email. Now, no matter what I do, I get Not Responding at the top. If I wait for a terribly long time, it will give me a result, but the next time I click, it doesn't respond again.

I do not have the Dell OEM addins because I don't have a Dell.

Any ideas?
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N03L



Joined: Feb 13, 2009
Posts: 1



PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:58 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

I'm noticing the same symptoms for all Office Basic and Professional 2007 users in just one of our offices.
We've been replacing the Small Business Server 2003 domains with a single Server 2008 domain and this Outlook isue is only affecting the one remaining SBS 2003 based site.
The users, including myself, who are pointed at the Exchange 2007 box in the new domain and who are logging on to the new domain via VPN links to the DC's and DNS servers on the new domain are all experiencing this seemingly random, intermittent "Not Responding" behavious in Outlook 2007.

I've tried to disable all "Add-In's" via the Trust Centre but it's made no difference.

I'm thinking it's a DNS issue. If I check the "Connection Status" by CTRL right clicking on the Outlook icon in the systray then I notice the Mail server is connected OK but the DC is disconnected.

Any thoughts?

N03L.
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xfileman2000



Joined: Feb 05, 2009
Posts: 2



PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Outlook 2007 on Vista Not Responding no matter what I do [Login to view extended thread Info.]

xfileman2000 wrote:
I've got an HP Compaq Presario C700. On that I have Outlook 2007 installed on my system. It has been working wonderful until about 3 weeks ago and it started pausing and taking forever just to preview an email or open an email or reply to an email. Now, no matter what I do, I get Not Responding at the top. If I wait for a terribly long time, it will give me a result, but the next time I click, it doesn't respond again.

I do not have the Dell OEM addins because I don't have a Dell.

Any ideas?


Okay, so I've been checking all kinds of other forums. I got mine functioning again, but here's the deal. The threshold of the size of your .pst file is a lot less than initially thought by others. Once I archived my email down to under 600 meg, the problem resolved itself.

I highly recommend doing two more things. Run scanpst.exe against your .pst files to resolve any discrepancies.

Make sure you don't have more than one .pst in different path locations. Outlook will try to resolve both simultaneously and, of course, unsuccessfully.

Good luck!!
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