New Office (2007) menus -- can we change them back to exac..

Herb Martin · External Since: Feb 05, 2007 Posts: 3

In Outlook MESSAGES (riddon windows) the menus do not work as before.
In Word DOCUMENTS (ribbon windows) the new scheme is to NOT display the
menu but to rather pop up a message that says you can keep typing BUT ONLY
if you have them fully memorized.

What I need is an option to put the OLD MENUS (Alt-Key access) and display
of them back.

Does this exist?

[If not, the idiots that invented, designed, and approved these changes
should be fired or put to work packing product boxes in manufacturing.]

Not only do these menus not work like every other version of Office, they
work like no other programs previously built for Windows.

One of the nice things about Windows is that if you can run one program you
can run them all (as long as you understand the programs purpose) without
having
to learn a bunch of archane differences.

--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
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Patrick Schmid [MVP] · External Since: Oct 16, 2006 Posts: 725

Nope.

> Not only do these menus not work like every other version of Office, they
> work like no other programs previously built for Windows.
Yes, it's called innovation.

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Herb Martin · External Since: Feb 05, 2007 Posts: 3

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <pdschmid.RemoveThis@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Nope.
>
>> Not only do these menus not work like every other version of Office, they
>> work like no other programs previously built for Windows.
> Yes, it's called innovation.

Thanks -- I suppose that I will recommend staying with Office 2003 or
going to Open Office then.

And I am serious about this.

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Mitch Ruth · External Since: Feb 06, 2007 Posts: 1

I was a little put off when I first saw the new ribbon and the changes too.
But, I gave it a fair shot, and got used to it pretty quickly. I like the
current ribbon much better than the previous and it's second nature. In fact,
not only do I think it's actually "easier to use", I'd fight if I had to go
back.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

> It makes sense. Alt-I is taken by the Office 2003 style menu shortcut
> that is still available in 2007. If you remember the keyboard keys for
> getting this in 2003, then you can still use those. So with Alt-I taken,
> they picked N.
>
> > Take Developer, I use such things fairly regularly but it doesn't even need
> > a
> > main menu item -- most people don't use it often and those that do don't
> > mind
> > looking for it in a submenu.
> You are a power user, not the vast majority of all users. While you
> might be able to find something hidden in a submenu, a majority of users
> probably cannot.
> The thing you need to realize is that the ribbon is not designed for
> power users who know where everything they need is in 2003. Those users
> simply hate the ribbon because it is a big change.
>
> Ask yourself. How much of your resentment is because you don't know your
> way around anymore and feel like a beginner again and how much is due to
> this being a really big change from what you are used to?
>
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Herb Martin · External Since: Feb 05, 2007 Posts: 3

"Mitch Ruth" <MitchRuth.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I was a little put off when I first saw the new ribbon and the changes too.
> But, I gave it a fair shot, and got used to it pretty quickly. I like the
> current ribbon much better than the previous and it's second nature. In
> fact,
> not only do I think it's actually "easier to use", I'd fight if I had to
> go
> back.

I have given it more than a fair shot and it is atrocious.

Even were it marginally an improvement it destroys the
GUI-compatibility between Office and 10,000 other Windows
programs.

We, and many other admins and consultants, I run into are now
recommending AGAINST upgrade.

Likely we will have to do so one day -- or switch to Open Office --
but even though we have ALWAYS been Microsoft Office lovers
we will not put this on willingly.

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Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
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(phone on web site)

huntgold · Joined: Feb 27, 2007 Posts: 1

In fact, Office 2007 Menus and Toolbars could be show again. Just download and install Classic Menu for Office 2007 from
http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice , you will see the Main Menu Bar, Standard Toolbar, Formatting Toolbar in Excel 2007, Word 2007 and PowerPoint 2007.

BigDog66 · Joined: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 1

Thanks for the sanity! Very Happy

Classic Menu's,

What is the matter with Microsoft? The ribbons in Office 2007 are horrible!

Seems like Microsoft, a company I had always respected, has been hijacked by the elitists who know better than I do what is best for me!

Ribbons are fine for the Chinese and people that want to have 30,000 charachters for a language, but here in the USA we use Words made from the 26 letter alphabet. As for other countries that needed different charachters fine, just give us an option to use the classic menu's and to use VBA to enhance them.

Shame on you Microsoft! Just because your architects could not arrange hiarchial menus does not mean you need to change to an obscure icon language that make no sense at all..

So what about the people that had, through VBA, created hiearchial menus that placed 'Insert Table' submenu under under the 'Insert' menu item?

When I cannot get hiarchial menus for Microsoft office I am going to another suite that has them. I am already on my way.