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Stephen Glynn
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Border settings for A4
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I want to print a page border -- the three line one -- as near as
possible to the edge of a sheet of A4 paper. What settings should I
use?

I've tried several several settings, all of which look OK in print
preview but actually, when I print them out, end up as one, rather than
three, lines, which I assume is caused by the other two actually falling
outside the print area. Or could that just be my
not-particularly-brilliant printer?

Steve
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Graham Mayor
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Border settings for A4 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/BottomsDontPrint.htm

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Stephen Glynn wrote:
> I want to print a page border -- the three line one -- as near as
> possible to the edge of a sheet of A4 paper. What settings should I
> use?
>
> I've tried several several settings, all of which look OK in print
> preview but actually, when I print them out, end up as one, rather
> than three, lines, which I assume is caused by the other two actually
> falling outside the print area. Or could that just be my
> not-particularly-brilliant printer?
>
> Steve
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Stephen Glynn
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Border settings for A4 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Graham Mayor wrote:
> See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/BottomsDontPrint.htm
>

Thanks. I'm still a bit confused, though.

I've followed the article's advice to set all the margins to zero in
File-Page Set-up and then ask Word 2000 to 'fix the problem' when it
tells me that the margins are set outside the printable area of the page.

However, the printable margins it then goes on to propose aren't those
of my printer (in particular, it thinks I can use a bottom margin of
0.29 cm, while Epson think that the minium margin for my model is 1.25
cm. It's the only printer I've ever installed on this PC; where's Word
getting its information from? Or are these Word's minimum margins,
regardless of what the printer will actually so?

Also, when I go to Page-Set-up - Borders - Page Borders - Options and
try to set the page border's margin from the edge of the page, the only
unit of measurement it offers me is a 'point', despite the fact it uses
metric measures for all other purposes. Is there a way to pursuade it
to use measures I can understand? Google calculator informs that that
'1 PostScript points = 0.0352777778 centimetres', (so 1.25 centimetres
is 35.4330709 points) which isn't the easiest conversion to do!

Steve
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Graham Mayor
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Border settings for A4 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Word gets the margin limits from the printer driver.

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Stephen Glynn wrote:
> Graham Mayor wrote:
>> See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/BottomsDontPrint.htm
>>
>
> Thanks. I'm still a bit confused, though.
>
> I've followed the article's advice to set all the margins to zero in
> File-Page Set-up and then ask Word 2000 to 'fix the problem' when it
> tells me that the margins are set outside the printable area of the
> page.
> However, the printable margins it then goes on to propose aren't those
> of my printer (in particular, it thinks I can use a bottom margin of
> 0.29 cm, while Epson think that the minium margin for my model is 1.25
> cm. It's the only printer I've ever installed on this PC; where's
> Word getting its information from? Or are these Word's minimum
> margins, regardless of what the printer will actually so?
>
> Also, when I go to Page-Set-up - Borders - Page Borders - Options and
> try to set the page border's margin from the edge of the page, the
> only unit of measurement it offers me is a 'point', despite the fact
> it uses metric measures for all other purposes. Is there a way to
> pursuade it to use measures I can understand? Google calculator
> informs that that '1 PostScript points = 0.0352777778 centimetres',
> (so 1.25 centimetres is 35.4330709 points) which isn't the easiest
> conversion to do!
> Steve
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Stephen Glynn
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Border settings for A4 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Graham Mayor wrote:
> Word gets the margin limits from the printer driver.
>

I'm sorry, but it doesn't appear to, at least on my machine.

As an experiment, I've just downloaded and installed the latest driver
for my printer from the manufacturer's website (it's an Epson C44) and
then tried setting all the margins on a blank document to zero and
seeing what both Word and Open Office's Writer suggest.

Epson say that the minimum margins are 3.00 mm on all edges except the
bottom, which is 12.50 mm. Writer gives me 3.00 mm on all edges except
the bottom, where it proposes 13.10 mm, which is pretty close. Word
says 5.90 mm top and left, 61mm at the bottom and 62mm on the right.
It's not a big deal, since I'd never normally need margins that small,
but I'm just puzzled by how Word's calculating them.

Steve
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Graham Mayor
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Border settings for A4 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Some applications are less strict in their addressing of the printer driver
and can address the printer directly. Word is not one of these. FWIW I have
an Epson printer here and it gives me .3cm all round? An HP laser printer
gives top .42cm bottom .43cm left and right .6cm (All with A4 paper size).

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Stephen Glynn wrote:
> Graham Mayor wrote:
>> Word gets the margin limits from the printer driver.
>>
>
> I'm sorry, but it doesn't appear to, at least on my machine.
>
> As an experiment, I've just downloaded and installed the latest driver
> for my printer from the manufacturer's website (it's an Epson C44) and
> then tried setting all the margins on a blank document to zero and
> seeing what both Word and Open Office's Writer suggest.
>
> Epson say that the minimum margins are 3.00 mm on all edges except the
> bottom, which is 12.50 mm. Writer gives me 3.00 mm on all edges
> except the bottom, where it proposes 13.10 mm, which is pretty close.
> Word says 5.90 mm top and left, 61mm at the bottom and 62mm on the
> right. It's not a big deal, since I'd never normally need margins
> that small, but I'm just puzzled by how Word's calculating them.
>
> Steve
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