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danielbutta
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Apostrophes and Quotation marks in Word - AGAIN!
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I cannot type an apostrophe or quotation mark in Word 2007 (operating on
updated Vista) without typing a character or space following it. This is
extremely frustrating. I have checked lots of forums and the same advice is
given - change your keyboard settings to US, not US International. I have
checked this and am using US NOT US International. My chosen language is
English - Australia. The document is formatted in English - Australia, please
don't tell me to check my language settings because I have!

This is driving me mental. Please help.
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Graham Mayor
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: Apostrophes and Quotation marks in Word - AGAIN! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Whether you like the answers or not, the problem is associated with your
keyboard and Windows regional settings. Do you actually have a US pattern
keyboard? It is imperative that you setup the keyboard associated with the
Australian language in Windows Regional settings to the keyboard that you
are actually using. e.g. I have a UK pattern keyboard which has the quote "
at Shift+2 and the pound £ at Shift 3. If I setup English Australian as the
input language and set the keyboard pattern as US and press the apostrophe
key, then indeed I too have to press space to insert the apsotrophe. If I
then change the keyboard to UK the apostrophe works correctly. Ensure
therefore that the keyboard you select in Windows Regional settings matches
the keyboard that you are using and not what Windows by default associates
with the Australian English input language.

You *may* have to restart Word to effect the change if you have only one
input language configured.

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danielbutta wrote:
> I cannot type an apostrophe or quotation mark in Word 2007 (operating
> on updated Vista) without typing a character or space following it.
> This is extremely frustrating. I have checked lots of forums and the
> same advice is given - change your keyboard settings to US, not US
> International. I have checked this and am using US NOT US
> International. My chosen language is English - Australia. The
> document is formatted in English - Australia, please don't tell me to
> check my language settings because I have!
>
> This is driving me mental. Please help.
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Mi Tasol
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Apostrophes and Quotation marks in Word - AGAIN! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Nov 1, 7:22 pm, "Graham Mayor" <gma....DeleteThis@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote:
> Whether you like the answers or not, the problem is associated with your
> keyboard and Windows regional settings. Do you actually have a US pattern
> keyboard? It is imperative that you setup the keyboard associated with the
> Australian language in Windows Regional settings to the keyboard that you
> are actually using. e.g. I have a UK pattern keyboard which has the quote "
> at Shift+2 and the pound £ at Shift 3. If I setup English Australian as the
> input language and set the keyboard pattern as US and press the apostrophe
> key, then indeed I too have to press space to insert the apsotrophe. If I
> then change the keyboard to UK the apostrophe works correctly. Ensure
> therefore that the keyboard you select in Windows Regional settings matches
> the keyboard that you are using and not what Windows by default associates
> with the Australian English input language.
>
> You *may* have to restart Word to effect the change if you have only one
> input language configured.
>
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> Graham Mayor -  Word MVP
>
> My web sitewww.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
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>
>
>
>
>
> danielbutta wrote:
> > I cannot type an apostrophe or quotation mark in Word 2007 (operating
> > on updated Vista) without typing a character or space following it.
> > This is extremely frustrating. I have checked lots of forums and the
> > same advice is given - change your keyboard settings to US, not US
> > International. I have checked this and am using US NOT US
> > International. My chosen language is English - Australia. The
> > document is formatted in English - Australia, please don't tell me to
> > check my language settings because I have!
>
> > This is driving me mental. Please help.

Hi Graham

I have a different version of the same issue. There is no such thing
as Papua New Guinea English so we use UK English. If we associate
that with the UK keyboard it produces the horrors of pounds signs etc
you speak of so we seem to need to associate with the US keyboard.
That seems to tell Wurd that US english is the default language as it
is quite normal to copy true English from one doc to another and find
the paste has been formatted as US english - even though language
settings are set to real English only. If I use the Australian
English keyboard it becomes even worse as then Wurd autocorrect
defaults to Aus english.

Any thought on how to fix this mess?

Thanks

Mi Tasol
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Graham Mayor
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: Apostrophes and Quotation marks in Word - AGAIN! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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There are two issues here - language and keyboard pattern. They are not the
same thing. Unless there is a particular reason for not doing so (such as
ease of typing a foreign language like Greek) the keyboard setting should
always reflect the actual keyboard that you are using in order for the key
mapping to reflect what is shown on the key caps.

The input language is a separate issue. By default installing an input
language e.g. UK English, will associate the appropriate UK keyboard layout
with that language. What you need to do is decide what input language you
want and associate that with the keyboard layout that you have eg UK
English with US keyboard. Then delete any other input languages and/or
keyboards associated with the version of English that you want to use. You
should be left with one input language associated with one keyboard.

Having sorted the input language, you need to also apply the same version of
English to Windows regional settings.

If you are changing from US English to UK English input language, you may
need to reboot after making the change in order to remove the US English
from the input language listing.

This there are three places the changes need to be made
1. Windows Regional Settings - this sets the default settings for Word
2. Input language. This sets the proofing language for Word
4. Keyboard. This sets the keyboard mapping.

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Mi Tasol wrote:
> On Nov 1, 7:22 pm, "Graham Mayor" <gma....TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote:
>> Whether you like the answers or not, the problem is associated with
>> your keyboard and Windows regional settings. Do you actually have a
>> US pattern keyboard? It is imperative that you setup the keyboard
>> associated with the Australian language in Windows Regional settings
>> to the keyboard that you are actually using. e.g. I have a UK
>> pattern keyboard which has the quote " at Shift+2 and the pound £ at
>> Shift 3. If I setup English Australian as the input language and set
>> the keyboard pattern as US and press the apostrophe key, then indeed
>> I too have to press space to insert the apsotrophe. If I then change
>> the keyboard to UK the apostrophe works correctly. Ensure therefore
>> that the keyboard you select in Windows Regional settings matches
>> the keyboard that you are using and not what Windows by default
>> associates with the Australian English input language.
>>
>> You *may* have to restart Word to effect the change if you have only
>> one input language configured.
>>
>> --
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>
>> My web sitewww.gmayor.com
>> Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> danielbutta wrote:
>>> I cannot type an apostrophe or quotation mark in Word 2007
>>> (operating on updated Vista) without typing a character or space
>>> following it. This is extremely frustrating. I have checked lots of
>>> forums and the same advice is given - change your keyboard settings
>>> to US, not US International. I have checked this and am using US
>>> NOT US International. My chosen language is English - Australia. The
>>> document is formatted in English - Australia, please don't tell me
>>> to check my language settings because I have!
>>
>>> This is driving me mental. Please help.
>
> Hi Graham
>
> I have a different version of the same issue. There is no such thing
> as Papua New Guinea English so we use UK English. If we associate
> that with the UK keyboard it produces the horrors of pounds signs etc
> you speak of so we seem to need to associate with the US keyboard.
> That seems to tell Wurd that US english is the default language as it
> is quite normal to copy true English from one doc to another and find
> the paste has been formatted as US english - even though language
> settings are set to real English only. If I use the Australian
> English keyboard it becomes even worse as then Wurd autocorrect
> defaults to Aus english.
>
> Any thought on how to fix this mess?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mi Tasol
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