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James Silverton
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:42 pm    Post subject: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002
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My current compromise to avoid sexism in writing is to follow
The Times of London and use appropriate variants of the plural
pronoun. eg., "their". The grammar checker flags this usage and
I wonder if anyone know a way to make the dumb program accept
it. I do *not* like the suggested correction "his or her".

Others may disagree with me and I won't argue with them but is
there a way to
get the program to work as *I* want it?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Word is neither dumb nor intelligent: it's a *computer program*, under YOUR
control. Switch off the rules you don't like: or are you too dumb to
understand the significance of the 'Ignore rule' button?




"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote in message
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> My current compromise to avoid sexism in writing is to follow
> The Times of London and use appropriate variants of the plural
> pronoun. eg., "their". The grammar checker flags this usage and
> I wonder if anyone know a way to make the dumb program accept
> it. I do *not* like the suggested correction "his or her".
>
> Others may disagree with me and I won't argue with them but is there a way
> to
> get the program to work as *I* want it?
>
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Jezebel" <warcrimes DeleteThis @whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
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> Word is neither dumb nor intelligent: it's a *computer
> program*, under YOUR control. Switch off the rules you don't
> like: or are you too dumb to understand the significance of
> the 'Ignore rule' button?
>
>
>
>
> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote in
> message news:-LqdnS_RvtFXrHLYnZ2dnUVZ_rGinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> My current compromise to avoid sexism in writing is to follow
>> The Times of London and use appropriate variants of the
>> plural
>> pronoun. eg., "their". The grammar checker flags this usage
>> and
>> I wonder if anyone know a way to make the dumb program accept
>> it. I do *not* like the suggested correction "his or her".
>>
>> Others may disagree with me and I won't argue with them but
>> is there a way to
>> get the program to work as *I* want it?


Thank you for your polite and helpful suggestion but where is
this button? It is the first time I've tried to do something
like this.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If you can't find it, I guess the task is beyond you.



"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote in message
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> "Jezebel" <warcrimes.RemoveThis@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
> news:%23UjabQQYHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Word is neither dumb nor intelligent: it's a *computer program*, under
>> YOUR control. Switch off the rules you don't like: or are you too dumb to
>> understand the significance of the 'Ignore rule' button?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote in message
>> news:-LqdnS_RvtFXrHLYnZ2dnUVZ_rGinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> My current compromise to avoid sexism in writing is to follow
>>> The Times of London and use appropriate variants of the plural
>>> pronoun. eg., "their". The grammar checker flags this usage and
>>> I wonder if anyone know a way to make the dumb program accept
>>> it. I do *not* like the suggested correction "his or her".
>>>
>>> Others may disagree with me and I won't argue with them but is there a
>>> way to
>>> get the program to work as *I* want it?
>
>
> Thank you for your polite and helpful suggestion but where is this button?
> It is the first time I've tried to do something like this.
>
>
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> James Silverton
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jezebel wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:12:05 +1100:

Do you get some sort of a high from rudeness? Stay away from
high windows, city gates and dogs!

Plonk!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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G'Day James,

Jezebel has a trying and delicate job.

Since the Vietnam - beg pardon Iraq - "coalition of the willing" was formed,
she has (to put it delicately) had to remove the "brown stuff" from our PMs
nose where he has been paying due homage to your late - beg pardon great
- President George.

Now there is a thingy in Word that seems to be important, and it is:
Tools>Options.

There are all sorts of whatsits that a person, exalted or otherwise, may change
to suit his or her unique taste.

One such is on the "Spelling and Grammar" tab where, under Grammar, there
is a "Settings" widget.

I recommend a thorough exploration of "Tools>Options" since, like our
languages, much may be open to interpretation.

By the way, I believe that a-sexist correctness is now a bit (like political
correctness) "on the nose"

We call female Stars "actors" yet they still insist on using the actresses
toilet - strange really ...
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"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton.DeleteThis@comcast.not> wrote in message
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> Jezebel wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:12:05 +1100:
>
> Do you get some sort of a high from rudeness? Stay away from high windows,
> city gates and dogs!
>
> Plonk!
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Pat wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:45:44 +1100:

PG> Jezebel has a trying and delicate job.

PG> Now there is a thingy in Word that seems to be important,
PG> and it is:
Tools>> Options.

PG> There are all sorts of whatsits that a person, exalted or
PG> otherwise, may change to suit his or her unique taste.

PG> One such is on the "Spelling and Grammar" tab where, under
PG> Grammar, there is a "Settings" widget.

The whole subject of gender correctness is a tricky one that,
as I said, I did not really want to get into. I am perfectly
willing to regard words like "waiter" and "actor" as not gender
specific but not everyone agrees with me. Really, I was not
looking to turn off number agreement in Word tho' that seems the
only way to get what I want. I'll have another look and see if I
can do something. Like spelling checking, I am willing to agree
to disagree with the suggestions but, AFAICT, unlike the speller
there does not seem be an "accept this" or "always accept this"
option for grammar in Word 2002. That would be sufficient in my
opinion.

Thanks for your suggestions.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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James wrote to Pat Garard on Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:30:29 -0400:

I'll just add a further observation.

JS> The whole subject of gender correctness is a tricky one
JS> that, as I said, I did not really want to get into. I am
JS> perfectly willing to regard words like "waiter" and "actor"
JS> as not gender specific but not everyone agrees with me.

It is interesting that sentences like "The waiter tripped when
she brought the meal and the actor said she was going to sue"
are not flagged as wrong Smile


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton DeleteThis @comcast.not> wrote

> It is interesting that sentences like "The waiter tripped when she brought
> the meal and the actor said she was going to sue" are not flagged as wrong
> Smile

I would be flabbergasted if they were... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Opinicus wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:53:16 +0200:

??>> It is interesting that sentences like "The waiter tripped
??>> when she brought the meal and the actor said she was going
??>> to sue" are not flagged as wrong Smile

O> I would be flabbergasted if they were... Wink

Even I could make a case that the sentence could be absolutely
correct whatever you think about gender-correctness but the
grammar checker sometimes flags alleged errors, especially,
plurality of verbs etc., simply because the words are separated.
As I said, the grammar checker would be more acceptable if there
were a fuggetaboutit setting Smile


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> As I said, the grammar checker would be more acceptable if there were a
> fuggetaboutit setting Smile

Which there is, as originally established.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Alleged grammatical error in Word 2002 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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James wrote to Opinicus on Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:17:04 -0400:

??>>> It is interesting that sentences like "The waiter tripped
??>>> when she brought the meal and the actor said she was
??>>> going to sue" are not flagged as wrong Smile

O>> I would be flabbergasted if they were... Wink

JS> Even I could make a case that the sentence could be
JS> absolutely correct whatever you think about
JS> gender-correctness but the grammar checker sometimes flags
JS> alleged errors, especially, plurality of verbs etc., simply
JS> because the words are separated. As I said, the grammar
JS> checker would be more acceptable if there were a
JS> fuggetaboutit setting Smile

I have just noticed that there *is* an "ignore once" option, so
to a large extent I do have what I need if not a general turn
off. I guess I should have gone back and tried again but I was
distracted by pejorative matters. I don't know how I missed it
but I wish someone had just pointed out my mistake:-)


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