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Don Bouchard External

Since: Jul 23, 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: Add Adobe Fonts Archived from groups: microsoft>public>word>printingfonts (more info?) |
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I tried to add the Adobe Type I and Postcript fonts that I had purchased and
which worked well in Windows
XP--but apparently are not recognized by Windows Vista.
When browsing the CD with the fonts, Vista doesn't detect any fonts, though
WIn XP found them and added
them to my previous computer with Win XP.
Copy and paste doesn't work either. Any way to add these font? |
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Tom Ferguson External

Since: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 89
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Add Adobe Fonts [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Navigate to the Fonts item in classic view of Control Panel. From File
select Install new font and browse to the folder that contains the PFM
files.
Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User
"Don Bouchard" <deebeeX RemoveThis @Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
news:2D118F93-9909-491C-B777-BBA6D79E25C8@microsoft.com...
>I tried to add the Adobe Type I and Postcript fonts that I had purchased
>and which worked well in Windows
> XP--but apparently are not recognized by Windows Vista.
>
> When browsing the CD with the fonts, Vista doesn't detect any fonts,
> though WIn XP found them and added
> them to my previous computer with Win XP.
> Copy and paste doesn't work either. Any way to add these font?
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Don Bouchard External

Since: Jul 23, 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Add Adobe Fonts [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Tom,
The problem occurs when I click "Install New Font"; the intall font window
seems to be collecting or sorting the font names, but when it is through
scanning the folder with the Adbe Fonts, it states; "No fonts found."
Any way to get Vista to recognize the Adobe fonts like Melior and Caslon
which were relatively expensive?
Don
***
"Tom Ferguson" <tom.msmvp.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uJTntYbzHHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Navigate to the Fonts item in classic view of Control Panel. From File
> select Install new font and browse to the folder that contains the PFM
> files.
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Don Bouchard" <deebeeX.DeleteThis@Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
> news:2D118F93-9909-491C-B777-BBA6D79E25C8@microsoft.com...
>>I tried to add the Adobe Type I and Postcript fonts that I had purchased
>>and which worked well in Windows
>> XP--but apparently are not recognized by Windows Vista.
>>
>> When browsing the CD with the fonts, Vista doesn't detect any fonts,
>> though WIn XP found them and added
>> them to my previous computer with Win XP.
>> Copy and paste doesn't work either. Any way to add these font?
>> |
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Character External

Since: Sep 26, 2006 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Add Adobe Fonts [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Don Bouchard wrote:
> I tried to add the Adobe Type I and Postcript fonts that I had purchased
> and which worked well in Windows
> XP--but apparently are not recognized by Windows Vista.
>
> When browsing the CD with the fonts, Vista doesn't detect any fonts,
> though WIn XP found them and added
> them to my previous computer with Win XP.
> Copy and paste doesn't work either. Any way to add these font?
>
The way I understand it, WPF (Windows Presentation Foundation) doesn't
support Type 1 fonts. but GDI (Graphics Device Interface) is still
functional under Vista, and it DOES support Type 1.
It's not clear to me under what circumstances in Vista WPF is used and
when GDI is used. Maybe someone can clarify.
Whatever the case, if authorized by the terms of the licensing
agreement, Type 1 fonts can be converted losslessly to OpenType, which
is fully supported - at least to the extent that they can be used the
same as Type 1 fonts. No Microsoft applications yet make use of the
additional features of OpenType.
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Tom Ferguson External

Since: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 89
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Add Adobe Fonts [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Wow! I did not know this. Blow me around the desert in the hot wind and
call me tumbleweed!
I have Melior and many other PostScript Type 1 fonts installed. However,
let me start at the beginning.
I deleted Melior using Control Panel Fonts. Next, I found the floppies
Adobe shipped when I purchased it many years ago. (They were originally
installed on Windows 3.1 using ATM Deluxe.) Then, I put the floppy in the
drive and pointed the installer at the floppy. Nothing unusual in any of
that. Then, as you said, there was a few seconds activity and no fonts
were found. Then I pointed the installer at the directory on my HD that I
use for (many, too many) PostScript font files. 15 sec or so later, up
came the font names. Why the difference?
First of all, the computer in question has Vista 64 bit as its operating
system. When the same thing is done on a box with XP Pro, the fonts on
the floppy appear in response to the search. Also, the floppy contains
pfb, afm, and inf files for the font; the HD directory contains pfb and
pfm.
It would appear that Windows Vista needs the pfm file; unlike XP, it will
not install the font from the pfb/afm/inf triple. XP generates a pfm file
on the fly from the afm/inf files during installation and puts it in the
fonts directory. I don't know what was, or why it was, changed.
(If Adobe Type Manager is installed on an XP or earlier system, it will
also install the font from the pfb, afm, inf files as well as the pfb,
pfm pair. However, ATM will not install on Vista.)
Information on the purpose and format of these file types is available
from Adobe's site and elsewhere.
So, now what? First, is any of this relevant to your situation? What
files are present on the media you are using for installation? If it
lacks the pfm file, perhaps the simplest solution is to install the fonts
on an XP box and copy the pfb/pfm files to the vista box and install from
there.
[Curiously, while the afm files for most of Adobe's fonts (possibly not
all) are available from their FTP server, the pfm files are not.]
.... assuming the OS on the box having this problem is Vista...
Tom
MSMVP
Windows shell/User
PS
I have a few queries "out". If anything useful
comes of that, I'll add it here.
"Don Bouchard" <deebeeX.TakeThisOut@Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
news:118B5A55-CDE0-4443-9F0D-03D480AEFC6D@microsoft.com...
> Tom,
> The problem occurs when I click "Install New Font"; the intall font
> window seems to be collecting or sorting the font names, but when it is
> through scanning the folder with the Adbe Fonts, it states; "No fonts
> found."
>
> Any way to get Vista to recognize the Adobe fonts like Melior and
> Caslon which were relatively expensive?
> Don
> ***
> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.msmvp.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uJTntYbzHHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Navigate to the Fonts item in classic view of Control Panel. From
>> File select Install new font and browse to the folder that contains
>> the PFM files.
>>
>> Tom
>> MSMVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Don Bouchard" <deebeeX.TakeThisOut@Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:2D118F93-9909-491C-B777-BBA6D79E25C8@microsoft.com...
>>>I tried to add the Adobe Type I and Postcript fonts that I had
>>>purchased and which worked well in Windows
>>> XP--but apparently are not recognized by Windows Vista.
>>>
>>> When browsing the CD with the fonts, Vista doesn't detect any fonts,
>>> though WIn XP found them and added
>>> them to my previous computer with Win XP.
>>> Copy and paste doesn't work either. Any way to add these font?
>>>
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Don Bouchard External

Since: Jul 23, 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Add Adobe Fonts [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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"I have a few queries "out". If anything useful
comes of that, I'll add it here."
Please do.
Don
"Tom Ferguson" <tom.msmvp DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23%23msgXgzHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Wow! I did not know this. Blow me around the desert in the hot wind and
> call me tumbleweed!
>
> I have Melior and many other PostScript Type 1 fonts installed. However,
> let me start at the beginning.
>
> I deleted Melior using Control Panel Fonts. Next, I found the floppies
> Adobe shipped when I purchased it many years ago. (They were originally
> installed on Windows 3.1 using ATM Deluxe.) Then, I put the floppy in the
> drive and pointed the installer at the floppy. Nothing unusual in any of
> that. Then, as you said, there was a few seconds activity and no fonts
> were found. Then I pointed the installer at the directory on my HD that I
> use for (many, too many) PostScript font files. 15 sec or so later, up
> came the font names. Why the difference?
>
> First of all, the computer in question has Vista 64 bit as its operating
> system. When the same thing is done on a box with XP Pro, the fonts on the
> floppy appear in response to the search. Also, the floppy contains pfb,
> afm, and inf files for the font; the HD directory contains pfb and pfm.
>
> It would appear that Windows Vista needs the pfm file; unlike XP, it will
> not install the font from the pfb/afm/inf triple. XP generates a pfm file
> on the fly from the afm/inf files during installation and puts it in the
> fonts directory. I don't know what was, or why it was, changed.
>
> (If Adobe Type Manager is installed on an XP or earlier system, it will
> also install the font from the pfb, afm, inf files as well as the pfb, pfm
> pair. However, ATM will not install on Vista.)
>
> Information on the purpose and format of these file types is available
> from Adobe's site and elsewhere.
>
> So, now what? First, is any of this relevant to your situation? What files
> are present on the media you are using for installation? If it lacks the
> pfm file, perhaps the simplest solution is to install the fonts on an XP
> box and copy the pfb/pfm files to the vista box and install from there.
>
> [Curiously, while the afm files for most of Adobe's fonts (possibly not
> all) are available from their FTP server, the pfm files are not.]
>
> ... assuming the OS on the box having this problem is Vista...
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows shell/User
> PS
> I have a few queries "out". If anything useful
> comes of that, I'll add it here.
>
>
>
>
> "Don Bouchard" <deebeeX DeleteThis @Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
> news:118B5A55-CDE0-4443-9F0D-03D480AEFC6D@microsoft.com...
>> Tom,
>> The problem occurs when I click "Install New Font"; the intall font
>> window seems to be collecting or sorting the font names, but when it is
>> through scanning the folder with the Adbe Fonts, it states; "No fonts
>> found."
>>
>> Any way to get Vista to recognize the Adobe fonts like Melior and Caslon
>> which were relatively expensive?
>> Don
>> ***
>> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.msmvp DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uJTntYbzHHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Navigate to the Fonts item in classic view of Control Panel. From File
>>> select Install new font and browse to the folder that contains the PFM
>>> files.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> MSMVP
>>> Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Bouchard" <deebeeX DeleteThis @Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:2D118F93-9909-491C-B777-BBA6D79E25C8@microsoft.com...
>>>>I tried to add the Adobe Type I and Postcript fonts that I had purchased
>>>>and which worked well in Windows
>>>> XP--but apparently are not recognized by Windows Vista.
>>>>
>>>> When browsing the CD with the fonts, Vista doesn't detect any fonts,
>>>> though WIn XP found them and added
>>>> them to my previous computer with Win XP.
>>>> Copy and paste doesn't work either. Any way to add these font?
>>>>
>> |
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Don Bouchard External

Since: Jul 23, 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Add Adobe Fonts [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Tom,
I stumbled across the solution! Though all the fonts were present on the CD
and easily read by Windows Explorer, for some unknown reason the Add Fonts
window was not reading or acknowledging the fonts. I simply copied all the
fonts to a new folder on my C:\ Drive, pointed the add fonts window to that
folder and, mirabile dictu, they all appeared and easily installed and are
now availble on Vista.
For the life of me, I can't explain why the Add Fonts program couldn't read
the fonts while on the CD.
Thanks for the help. It's good to know there is a Good Samaritan waiting to
help.
Don
***
"Tom Ferguson" <tom.msmvp.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23%23msgXgzHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Wow! I did not know this. Blow me around the desert in the hot wind and
> call me tumbleweed!
>
> I have Melior and many other PostScript Type 1 fonts installed. However,
> let me start at the beginning.
>
> I deleted Melior using Control Panel Fonts. Next, I found the floppies
> Adobe shipped when I purchased it many years ago. (They were originally
> installed on Windows 3.1 using ATM Deluxe.) Then, I put the floppy in the
> drive and pointed the installer at the floppy. Nothing unusual in any of
> that. Then, as you said, there was a few seconds activity and no fonts
> were found. Then I pointed the installer at the directory on my HD that I
> use for (many, too many) PostScript font files. 15 sec or so later, up
> came the font names. Why the difference?
>
> First of all, the computer in question has Vista 64 bit as its operating
> system. When the same thing is done on a box with XP Pro, the fonts on the
> floppy appear in response to the search. Also, the floppy contains pfb,
> afm, and inf files for the font; the HD directory contains pfb and pfm.
>
> It would appear that Windows Vista needs the pfm file; unlike XP, it will
> not install the font from the pfb/afm/inf triple. XP generates a pfm file
> on the fly from the afm/inf files during installation and puts it in the
> fonts directory. I don't know what was, or why it was, changed.
>
> (If Adobe Type Manager is installed on an XP or earlier system, it will
> also install the font from the pfb, afm, inf files as well as the pfb, pfm
> pair. However, ATM will not install on Vista.)
>
> Information on the purpose and format of these file types is available
> from Adobe's site and elsewhere.
>
> So, now what? First, is any of this relevant to your situation? What files
> are present on the media you are using for installation? If it lacks the
> pfm file, perhaps the simplest solution is to install the fonts on an XP
> box and copy the pfb/pfm files to the vista box and install from there.
>
> [Curiously, while the afm files for most of Adobe's fonts (possibly not
> all) are available from their FTP server, the pfm files are not.]
>
> ... assuming the OS on the box having this problem is Vista...
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows shell/User
> PS
> I have a few queries "out". If anything useful
> comes of that, I'll add it here.
>
>
>
>
> "Don Bouchard" <deebeeX.DeleteThis@Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
> news:118B5A55-CDE0-4443-9F0D-03D480AEFC6D@microsoft.com...
>> Tom,
>> The problem occurs when I click "Install New Font"; the intall font
>> window seems to be collecting or sorting the font names, but when it is
>> through scanning the folder with the Adbe Fonts, it states; "No fonts
>> found."
>>
>> Any way to get Vista to recognize the Adobe fonts like Melior and Caslon
>> which were relatively expensive?
>> Don
>> ***
>> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.msmvp.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uJTntYbzHHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Navigate to the Fonts item in classic view of Control Panel. From File
>>> select Install new font and browse to the folder that contains the PFM
>>> files.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> MSMVP
>>> Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Bouchard" <deebeeX.DeleteThis@Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:2D118F93-9909-491C-B777-BBA6D79E25C8@microsoft.com...
>>>>I tried to add the Adobe Type I and Postcript fonts that I had purchased
>>>>and which worked well in Windows
>>>> XP--but apparently are not recognized by Windows Vista.
>>>>
>>>> When browsing the CD with the fonts, Vista doesn't detect any fonts,
>>>> though WIn XP found them and added
>>>> them to my previous computer with Win XP.
>>>> Copy and paste doesn't work either. Any way to add these font?
>>>>
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Tom Ferguson External

Since: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 89
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Add Adobe Fonts [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Ah! So, the problem and solution were different than the one I explored.
Glad you found a good solution.
Tom
MSMVP
Windows shell/User
"Don Bouchard" <deebeeX.TakeThisOut@Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
news:EEFB6362-29D4-4B97-9DFF-C597E829F297@microsoft.com...
> Tom,
> I stumbled across the solution! Though all the fonts were present on
> the CD and easily read by Windows Explorer, for some unknown reason the
> Add Fonts window was not reading or acknowledging the fonts. I simply
> copied all the fonts to a new folder on my C:\ Drive, pointed the add
> fonts window to that folder and, mirabile dictu, they all appeared and
> easily installed and are now availble on Vista.
>
> For the life of me, I can't explain why the Add Fonts program couldn't
> read the fonts while on the CD.
>
> Thanks for the help. It's good to know there is a Good Samaritan
> waiting to help.
>
> Don
> ***
> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.msmvp.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23%23msgXgzHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Wow! I did not know this. Blow me around the desert in the hot wind
>> and call me tumbleweed!
>>
>> I have Melior and many other PostScript Type 1 fonts installed.
>> However, let me start at the beginning.
>>
>> I deleted Melior using Control Panel Fonts. Next, I found the floppies
>> Adobe shipped when I purchased it many years ago. (They were
>> originally installed on Windows 3.1 using ATM Deluxe.) Then, I put the
>> floppy in the drive and pointed the installer at the floppy. Nothing
>> unusual in any of that. Then, as you said, there was a few seconds
>> activity and no fonts were found. Then I pointed the installer at the
>> directory on my HD that I use for (many, too many) PostScript font
>> files. 15 sec or so later, up came the font names. Why the difference?
>>
>> First of all, the computer in question has Vista 64 bit as its
>> operating system. When the same thing is done on a box with XP Pro,
>> the fonts on the floppy appear in response to the search. Also, the
>> floppy contains pfb, afm, and inf files for the font; the HD directory
>> contains pfb and pfm.
>>
>> It would appear that Windows Vista needs the pfm file; unlike XP, it
>> will not install the font from the pfb/afm/inf triple. XP generates a
>> pfm file on the fly from the afm/inf files during installation and
>> puts it in the fonts directory. I don't know what was, or why it was,
>> changed.
>>
>> (If Adobe Type Manager is installed on an XP or earlier system, it
>> will also install the font from the pfb, afm, inf files as well as the
>> pfb, pfm pair. However, ATM will not install on Vista.)
>>
>> Information on the purpose and format of these file types is available
>> from Adobe's site and elsewhere.
>>
>> So, now what? First, is any of this relevant to your situation? What
>> files are present on the media you are using for installation? If it
>> lacks the pfm file, perhaps the simplest solution is to install the
>> fonts on an XP box and copy the pfb/pfm files to the vista box and
>> install from there.
>>
>> [Curiously, while the afm files for most of Adobe's fonts (possibly
>> not all) are available from their FTP server, the pfm files are not.]
>>
>> ... assuming the OS on the box having this problem is Vista...
>>
>> Tom
>> MSMVP
>> Windows shell/User
>> PS
>> I have a few queries "out". If anything useful
>> comes of that, I'll add it here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don Bouchard" <deebeeX.TakeThisOut@Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:118B5A55-CDE0-4443-9F0D-03D480AEFC6D@microsoft.com...
>>> Tom,
>>> The problem occurs when I click "Install New Font"; the intall font
>>> window seems to be collecting or sorting the font names, but when it
>>> is through scanning the folder with the Adbe Fonts, it states; "No
>>> fonts found."
>>>
>>> Any way to get Vista to recognize the Adobe fonts like Melior and
>>> Caslon which were relatively expensive?
>>> Don
>>> ***
>>> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.msmvp.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uJTntYbzHHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Navigate to the Fonts item in classic view of Control Panel. From
>>>> File select Install new font and browse to the folder that contains
>>>> the PFM files.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>> MSMVP
>>>> Windows Shell/User
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don Bouchard" <deebeeX.TakeThisOut@Xjhu.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:2D118F93-9909-491C-B777-BBA6D79E25C8@microsoft.com...
>>>>>I tried to add the Adobe Type I and Postcript fonts that I had
>>>>>purchased and which worked well in Windows
>>>>> XP--but apparently are not recognized by Windows Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> When browsing the CD with the fonts, Vista doesn't detect any
>>>>> fonts, though WIn XP found them and added
>>>>> them to my previous computer with Win XP.
>>>>> Copy and paste doesn't work either. Any way to add these font?
>>>>>
>>>
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Character External

Since: Sep 26, 2006 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Add Adobe Fonts [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Don Bouchard wrote:
> Tom,
> I stumbled across the solution! Though all the fonts were present on the
> CD and easily read by Windows Explorer, for some unknown reason the Add
> Fonts window was not reading or acknowledging the fonts. I simply copied
> all the fonts to a new folder on my C:\ Drive, pointed the add fonts
> window to that folder and, mirabile dictu, they all appeared and easily
> installed and are now availble on Vista.
>
> For the life of me, I can't explain why the Add Fonts program couldn't
> read the fonts while on the CD.
I vaguely remember having had a similar situationa long time ago; it
had something to do with having some Norton protection software
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